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Jirachi [Doom Desire] (QC: 0/3)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Cygnis, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. Cygnis

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    BEFORE READING: This is the only time where I will have 3 threads so please don't get angry

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    name: Doom Desire
    move 1: Doom Desire
    move 2: Thunderbolt / Thunder
    move 3: Psyshock / Psychic
    move 4: Iron Head / U-turn
    item: Choice Specs
    ability: Serene Grace
    nature: Rash
    evs: 60 HP / 252 SAtk / 196 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Abuses Jirachi's signature move and causes massive damage to even resist
    • Thunderbolt provides a way to hit flying and water-types hard
    • Choice Specs gives massive power
    • Psyshock provides secondary STAB while Psychic is useful for the extra power, note it doesn't hit Blissey and Sand Terrakion as hard
    • Iron Head provides flinch chance and is nice while u-turn helps gain momentum
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    • 196 spe evs lets it outspeed up to base 80s
    • Can tank outrages well too
    • note that being locked into dooms d is bad so it involves an instant switch
    • Jirachi has plenty amounts of time to wreck havoc as well making it viable
    • Thunder is used on rain-teams and has a 60% chance to cause paralysis with serene grace which is a major pro
    • rash nature is better but a mild nature can be used if jirachi doesn't need to tank outrages and can have a better time tanking draco meteors and other moves
    • i really need to find teammates for this thing help any1?
  2. Lavos Spawn

    Lavos Spawn the hidden heart of the ocean
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    doom desire has never been good. it was decent on cbrachi in adv and that's it. like if you really want me to i can go test the proposed set out for a little bit but you're going to have a super hard time convincing me and (hopefully) the rest of ou qc on this. i understand jirachi can run just about anything, but are we really going to do an analysis for this?
  3. Cygnis

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    eh, good point, remove this pile of crap
  4. jc104

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    While I disagree with Lavos somewhat, in that Specs Doom Desire Jirachi was OK in gen 4, I agree with him that it's terrible now. A critical change in mechanics means that stuff resists doom desire now - it's extremely easy to switch in a resist (possibly 4x resist) or appropriate death fodder when you can see the move coming 2 turns in advance!

    Also, not that I see this being approved, but why on earth are you using specs iron head? Surely you should be using Trick or something instead?
  5. Cygnis

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    lol, ok QC wins i lose, remove this crap
  6. Magcargo 2

    Magcargo 2 Trickster with the sweet specs
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    Doom desire is not a good move. Steel is a subpar attacking type and doom desire can easily be avoided. Flash cannon is a more reliable option and that sucks itself. Not only that, but jirachi isn't meant to be an attacker, but rather a special wall.
  7. Cygnis

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    Actually Jirachi is meant to be both, but yea yea yea i get the point move this to L&O someone
  8. yee

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    Just gonna throw in that I tested Doom Desire a bit in BW1 and it had a little upside, although I remember the PP being a killing factor. Remember that it has 140 BP and slams Tyranitar for a Latias or something. I could see it being an other options move on Wish CM.

    I also need to say if you have that little confidence in this set, don't post it. If it takes one response to convince you that it's a pile of crap at least ask one other person about it first.

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