Keldeo

[Alter]

just going to do some extra playtesting and chat to people on #xyqc before i make some finalized sets.

preferably don't comment yet as this is still a WIP.

EDIT: I'm aiming to have this ready for QC tomorrow night (my time)

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Keldeo | #647
[BW2 Smogon | Serebii | Bulbapedia]
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Status: Work in progress
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GP Checks: [ ] | [ ]
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09:20 labyrinthine if i go attacker (specs/lorb) / scarf / cm
09:20 alexwolf sounds great
09:20 Colonel_M order is fine

Overview
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• Rain no longer being permanent and the introduction of new Pokemon (e.g. Greninja) have given it more competition. Fairies were also introduced. Decent bulk and typing are what set it apart from the likes of Greninja.
• A very shallow movepool which creates a reliance on Hidden Power or weak moves for coverage.
• Great base 129 Special Attacker and good base 108 Speed.
• Multiple options (Specs / Scarf / CM) to use with Keldeo.
• Its signature move, Secret Sword, allows it to bypass special walls. This is something it also has over other special attackers.

All-Out Attacker
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name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Secret Sword
move 3: Hidden Power Flying / Hidden Power Psychic
move 4: Icy Wind
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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• Hydro Pump is the main STAB option and Keldeo's most powerful attack.
• Secret Sword, which also allows it to bypass specially bulky Pokemon, is a reliable secondary STAB option.
• Hidden Power Flying provides neutral coverage and beats its otherwise best check: Mega Venusaur. It also lets Keldeo hit Gourgeist, Trevenant, and Celebi.
• Hidden Power Psychic can also be used. It hits Tentacruel and Dragalge.
• Icy Wind slows down opponents on the switch and only has 5 less BP than Hidden Power Ice. It hits Dragon- and Grass-types super effectively.
• AC: Surf > H Pump
• AC: HP Grass > moveslot 3

Set Details
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• AC item: Expert Belt to feign a Choice item and be able to switch moves.
• Choice Specs are for maximum damage, but Life Orb is optional if you want Keldeo to be able to switch moves.
• Timid nature to make use of its pretty good Speed tier and be as fast as possible.
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Usage Tips
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Team Options
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Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Secret Sword
move 3: Icy Wind
move 4: Surf / Hidden Power Electric
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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• AC: Surf

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Calm Mind
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name: Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Secret Sword
move 4: Hidden Power Ghost / Icy Wind
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Other Options
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• Keldeo can utilize a SubCM a la CroCune to boost while avoiding status. (w/ lefties + scald, secret sword)
• Taunt can be used on Keldeo's offensive sets to stop opponents from setting up or crippling Keldeo
• Rain Dance is also an option on offensive sets to boost the power of Keldeo's main STAB and change the weather.
• Keldeo can make use of Substitute to take advantage of the switches that it forces.

Checks & Counters
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• **Walls**: (I'll think of a better name for this later probably)
  • Slowking / Celebi / Mega Venusaur / Gourgeist / Jellicent / Tentacruel
• **Offensive checks**: blargh writing

 

[Alter]

No mention of HP Ghost? Ghost & Psychic coverage is pretty good for a Fighting-type, no?

As it says in bold at the top, this is still a WIP so preferably don't comment yet. If you checked, I actually did mention HP Ghost. I might be putting it under "Moves" for the Attacker set on top of the Calm Mind set, which already has it as a main slash.

 

[shrang]

Just a small nitpick to start with, I think the 4 remaining EVs should go into Special Defense to give Genesect an Attack boost. Keldeo conveniently resists most of Genes physical attacks, while being weak to Thunderbolt which Scarf may use against it (better to not amplify Keldeo's weakness to that)

 

[Kushalos]

Slash Hidden Power Grass on the Specs set, it hits Azumarill who resists its STABs, and physically defensive versions of Rotom-W and Gastrodon, while still retaining SE coverage on Jellicent.

 

[lordkira]

I'd like to say that it may not be such a bad idea to, at least, mention how its 108 speed is no longer as good as it was back in generation 5.

 

[Alter]

lordkira

preferably don't comment yet as this is still a WIP.

It's both incomplete and in only dot-point form. Just hold on until this is QC ready before any more comments. Thanks.