you've obviously never played against a gliscor baton pass team. allow me to walk you through it. i lead with a generic dual screen user (let's assume azelf). kg switches to tyranitar first turn while i set up reflect. Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar vs. Jolly Azelf behind Reflect Crunch: 51.4% - 61% Pursuit: 26% - 31.1% you'll want to crunch so that azelf can't explode. azelf light screens and dies in two hits. gliscor switches in. Jolly Tyranitar Crunch vs. Jolly Gliscor behind Reflect : 16.1% - 18.9% ... let's see what else we can do Bold Rotom-H Shadow Ball vs. Jolly 252/196 Gliscor behind LScreen : 13% - 15.5% Careful Forretress Payback vs. Jolly 252/0 Gliscor behind Reflect : 7.9% - 9.3% Bold Blissey Seismic Toss vs. Jolly 252 Gliscor: 28.2% Impish Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252/0 Jolly Gliscor +Reflect +LScreen : 24.3% - 29.4% blissey does the best damage of all of your pokemon ~_~ you're not phazing; baton pass gliscor always has taunt. so you switch to blissey (or make a worse move, it doesn't matter) on an agility, seismic toss while it swords dances twice, and then passes to a 252/252 lum berry metagross. 252 Adamant Metagross +4 Meteor Mash vs. 252/6 Careful Hippowdon : 113.6% - 133.8% vs. 4/252 Calm Blissey : 167.9% - 197.5% 252 Adamant Metagross +4 Earthquake vs. Careful Forretress : 77.4% - 91% 252 Adamant Metagross +4 Zen Headbutt vs. Bold Rotom-A : 100.3% - 118.2% the one pokemon who can take an attack is forretress, but... Careful Forretress Payback vs Metagross: 17.3% - 20.6% it doesn't matter how many layers you have. you are never going to ko metagross. it will clean up this team every single time. don't call pointing out this weakness a "noob rate".