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Kibago (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Heysup, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. Heysup

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    http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/kibago

    [Overview]


    • Monstrous Attack stat combined with a nearly unresisted 120 base power STAB attack is terrifying for most teams.
    • Quite fast and more powerful than the other Dragons, though being frailer than Bagon and without priority like Dratini.
    • Carries Swords Dance and Dragon Dance to boost it's already amazing Attack.
    • Cutest Dragon, though Dratini is pretty cute.

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Outrage
    move 2: Double Chop / Dragon Claw
    move 3: Dig
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Mold Breaker
    nature: Naughty / Naive
    evs: 220 Atk / 36 Def / 220 Spe

    Set Description:
    • Kibago has high Attack, decent Speed, STAB Outrage, and thus an excellent Scarfer.
    • Double Chop and Dragon Claw are strong attacks that don't keep you locked in, like Outrage.
    • Dig can hit Bronzor for heavy damage if it comes down to it.
    • Incinerate, while it looks peculiar, it's a surefire way of getting ridding opposing Steel-types of their berry.
    Additional Comments:
    • Payback hits Pokemon such as Bronzor harder than Outrage on the switch...barely.
    • Rock Smash (and even Reversal) hits Komatana.
    Teammates and Counters:
    • Bronzor and other steals can take hits quite easily.
    • Pokemon with Ice Shard or powerful priority will deal with Kibago.
    • Magnemite deals with Steels quite effectively, and it also switches into Ice Shard.
    • Wynaut provides free turns for Kibago to set up, and also traps Bronzor.

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Dragon Dance
    move 2: Double Chop / Dragon Claw
    move 3: Dig
    move 4: Outrage
    item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
    ability: Mold Breaker
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 220 Atk / 36 Def / 220 Spe
    ivs: 0 HP

    Set Description:
    • Kibago has high Attack, decent Speed, and STAB Outrage, Kibagon can wreck the tier after a Dragon Dance.
    • Double Chop and Dragon Claw are strong attacks that don't keep you locked in, like Outrage.
    • Dig can hit Bronzor for heavy damage, especially on the switch. It's risky, however, since it can predict your Dig and use Earthquake.
    • 19 HP makes Life Orb tick for less damage, but Oran Berry is sometimes a superior option anyway, so the HP IVs should be restored.
    Additional Comments:
    • Rock Smash hits Komatana.
    • Reversal can be used with Life Orb, since you'll be losing HP quite fast.
    Counters:
    • Bronzor and other steals can take hits quite easily.
    • Pokemon with Ice Shard or powerful priority will deal with Kibago.
    • Magnemite deals with Steels quite effectively, and it also switches into Ice Shard.
    • Wynaut provides free turns for Kibago to set up, and also traps Bronzor.
    [Team Options]
    • Magnemite deals with Steels quite effectively, and it also switches into Ice Shard.
    • Wynaut provides free turns for Kibago to set up, and also traps Bronzor.
    [Optional Changes]

    • A Substitute set could be useful, however Kibago is better of flat out attacking.
    • Endeavor could be used to lure and basically KO Bronzor, allowing a teammate to sweep.
    • Swords Dance is useful for beating stall, but Dragon Dance does that fine already.
    [Counters]


    • Bronzor and other steals can take hits quite easily.
    • Pokemon with Ice Shard or powerful priority will deal with Kibago.

    [Dream World]


    • It makes the Swords Dance and Choice Band set incredibly viable since not even Bronzor can switch in with an Oran Berry.
  2. Heysup

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    The cutie is done.
  3. TorchicBlaziken

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    Axew

    And also add in the Dream World section not to use Incinerate on the Choice Scarf set because you don't need it because it's a weak move and they already can't eat their berry. Mention the move that should be used instead.

    Also you mention a Swords Dance set but there is no Swords Dance set here.

    Also, it should be "its already amazing attack."
  4. Charmander

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    Hasn't Berry Juice been banned?
  5. Heysup

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    Yea, I haven't updated it.
  6. Charmander

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    Incinerate does not burn through Berry Juice (open)
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  7. Darkamber8828

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    Taunt should be mentioned.

    So should Rock Smash.

    And Endure/Sash+Reversal.

    Yeah, needs SD set.
  8. TorchicBlaziken

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    Well, it doesn't matter, because you can't do BJ anyway. It got banned.

    And I think you should test it in the actual game, not PO.
  9. Charmander

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    We're assuming PO has the same mechanics as "the actual game," which it does. Also, 99% of us don't have "the actual game" because it hasn't been released in the US yet. (or wherever)
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    That's not how it works...we are really unsure on fifth gen mechanics still, and things need to be tested in-game, then added to PO.
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    Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I know gen 4 mechanics are the same as the game and I thought they already tested gen 5 stats. My bad, sorry
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    Would it be a good idea to use Return in any set? Because Incinerate has a really bad BP, and won't do much to even Pokemon that are weak to it. (Although it does burn berries)
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    berry juice is banned
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    Can you read

  15. TorchicBlaziken

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    Tension is Unnerve
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    I think you should at least list Swords Dance in Optional Changes, since you mention it briefly in the Overview. I think you should say that Swords Dance boosts Kibago's Attack to very high levels, but Dragon Dance is generally better because of the Speed boost.
  17. Heysup

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    will update this completely when my others are done
  18. Heysup

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    Updated, ready for QC.
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    Berry juice is banned silly jew
  20. Heysup

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    updated and
    15:53Aerrowi approve your kibago thread, but don't want to post because i'm 6 posts away from 1k
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    approved too
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    Payback doesn't work on the switch like it used to, so Outrage still hits harder.


    Also

    See the problem?

    EDIT: X-Scissor should probably get a mention as it is Kibago's best way of damaging Bronzor without locking itself in, assurance can work too if you have sr on the field
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    Lamppost is taking this over here. Moving.

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