Kyogre (Baitogre)

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[SET]
name: Baitogre
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Surf
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Thunder / Ice Beam
item: Life Orb / Sea Incense
nature: Hasty / Mild
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Speed

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Although this set may seem more offensive at first glance, its primary role is to support, focusing on luring Kyogre's common counters as opposed to blasting everything in sight. Its main selling point is the ability to 2HKO Blissey with Waterfall, which is immensely useful to help facilitate a sweep for another special sweeper. However, Kyogre's usefulness doesn't end there, as it can also cripple its two primary counters, Latias and Palkia, with Thunder Wave.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Even with virtually no investment in Attack, a simple Life Orb ensures that Waterfall will 2HKO the pink blob known as Blissey. Life Orb has the added benefit of boosting both Surf and Thunder as well, which can be helpful when facing physically defensive foes such as Groudon. Thunder is usually given the nod over Ice Beam because it hits opposing Kyogre and does more damage to Lugia, but Ice Beam is an option if Dragon-types trouble you. Life Orb is meant to be used with a Hasty nature to give Kyogre power without sacrificing Speed, but Sea Incense is a worthy alternative if the recoil turns you off. When using Sea Incense, it's recommended to use a Mild nature with a spread of 192 HP / 60 Atk / 252 SpA to ensure a 2HKO on Blissey with Waterfall.</p>

<p>There are a number of Pokemon that benefit from Kyogre's ability to remove Blissey and cripple Latias and Palkia. Taunt + Calm Mind Mewtwo is an excellent example; not only can it sweep with greater ease with Blissey out of the picture, it also doesn't have to worry about being revenge killed by Palkia if Palkia is paralyzed. A Calm Mind Latias of your own is another great partner, especially if you run Ice Beam on Kyogre, as it can counter opposing Kyogre and sweep once Blissey is eliminated. Although this set struggles against typical Kyogre counters such as Palkia, Latias, and Ludicolo, the use of Thunder Wave can help mitigate this weakness. However, Quagsire deserves mention because it completely walls all of Kyogre's attacks outside of Ice Beam. Scizor is a good partner to beat Quagsire, and it also serves as a great Palkia and Latias check if Kyogre is unable to paralyze them.</p>

 

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Kyogre normally has issues with Blissey, and this set takes her down without resorting to Choice Specs (where you're locked), or RestCM (which takes a while to set up). In short, this set packs versatility while still being able to take down Blissey (often by surprise!)

 

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[SET]
name: Baitogre
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Surf
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Thunder / Ice Beam
item: Life Orb / Sea Incense
nature: Hasty / Mild
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Speed

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Although it may appear offensive in nature at first glance, Kyogre takes a more supportive role with this set, focusing on luring its common counters as opposed to blasting everything in sight. Its main selling point is the ability to 2HKO Blissey with Waterfall, which is immensely useful to help facilitate a sweep for another special sweeper. However, Kyogre's usefulness doesn't end there, as it can also cripple its two primary counters, Latias and Palkia, with Thunder Wave.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Even with virtually no investment in Attack, a simple Life Orb ensures that Waterfall will 2HKO the pink blob known as Blissey. Life Orb has the added benefit of boosting both Surf and Thunder as well, which can be helpful when facing physically defensive foes such as Groudon. Thunder is usually given the nod over Ice Beam because it lets Kyogre hit opposing Kyogre and Lugia, but Ice Beam is an option if Dragon-types trouble you. Life Orb is meant to be used with a Hasty nature to give Kyogre power without sacrificing Speed, but Sea Incense is a worthy alternative if the recoil turns you off. When using Sea Incense, it's recommended to use a Mild nature with a spread of 192 HP / 60 Atk / 252 SpA to ensure the 2HKO on Blissey is maintained.</p>

<p>There are a number of Pokemon that benefit from Kyogre's ability to remove Blissey and cripple Latias and Palkia. Taunt + Calm Mind Mewtwo is an excellent example; not only can it sweep with greater ease with Blissey out of the picture, it also doesn't have to worry about being revenge killed by Palkia if it Palkia is paralyzed. A Calm Mind Latias of your own is another great partner, especially if you run Ice Beam on Kyogre, as it can counter opposing Kyogre and sweep once Blissey is eliminated. Although this set struggles against other typical Kyogre counters such as Palkia, Latias, and Ludicolo, the use of Thunder Wave can help mitigate this weekend weakness. However, Quagsire deserves mention because it completely walls all of Kyogre's attacks. Scizor is thus a good partner to beat Quagsire, and it also serves as a great Palkia and Latias check if Kyogre is unable to paralyze them.</p>

 

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[SET]
name: Baitogre
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Surf
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Thunder / Ice Beam
item: Life Orb / Sea Incense
nature: Hasty / Mild
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Speed

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Although it may appear offensive in nature at first glance, Kyogre takes a more supportive role with this set this set may seem more offensive at first, its primary role is support, focusing on luring it Kyogre's common counters as opposed to blasting everything in sight. Its main selling point is the ability to 2HKO Blissey with Waterfall, which is helps immensely useful to helpto facilitate a sweep for another special sweeper. However, Kyogre's usefulness doesn't end there, as it can also cripple its two primary counters, Latias and Palkia, with Thunder Wave.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Even with virtually no investment in Attack, a simple Life Orb ensures that Waterfall will 2HKO the pink blob known as Blissey. Life Orb has the added benefit of boosting both Surf and Thunder as well, which can be helpful when facing physically defensive foes such as Groudon. Thunder is usually given the nod over Ice Beam because it lets Kyogre hit hitss opposing Kyogre and does more damage to Lugia, but Ice Beam is an option if Dragon-types trouble you. Life Orb is meant to be used with a Hasty nature to give Kyogre power without sacrificing Speed, but Sea Incense is a worthy alternative if the recoil turns you off. When using Sea Incense, it's recommended to use a Mild nature with a spread of 192 HP / 60 Atk / 252 SpA to ensure the a 2HKO on Blissey is maintained with Waterfall.</p>

<p>There are a number of Pokemon that benefit from Kyogre's ability to remove Blissey and cripple Latias and Palkia. Taunt + Calm Mind Mewtwo is an excellent example; not only can it sweep with greater ease with Blissey out of the picture, it also doesn't have to worry about being revenge killed by Palkia if Palkia is paralyzed. A Calm Mind Latias of your own is another great partner, especially if you run Ice Beam on Kyogre, as it can counter opposing Kyogre and sweep once Blissey is eliminated. Although this set struggles against typical Kyogre counters such as Palkia, Latias, and Ludicolo, the use of Thunder Wave can help mitigate this weakness. However, Quagsire deserves mention because it completely walls all of Kyogre's attacks, only taking nominal damage from Ice Beam. Scizor is thus a good partner, beating to beat Quagsire, and it also serving as a great Palkia and Latias check if Kyogre is unable to paralyze them.</p>

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