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Lapras (QC 3/3)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Lavos Spawn, Aug 26, 2012.

  1. Lavos Spawn

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    Lapras

    [Overview]

    <p>Lapras, despite its common status as a Pokemon rarely seen outside the lower tiers, can pose quite a threat in OU as well. With excellent boosting moves in both Dragon Dance and Curse, dual Water/Ice STAB, and superb 130/80/90 defenses, Lapras already appears to be quite the beast. Once you factor in its new Dream World ability, Hydration, which cures its status every turn provided it's under Rain, Lapras becomes an offensive monster with the capability to abuse Rest under Rain to restore its entire HP in the span of one turn. Despite its mediocre base Speed of 60, after a couple of Dragon Dances, Lapras is able to wreak absolute havoc on unprepared teams, while after several Curses, it's able to tank almost any hit and respond with a powerful Rain-boosted Waterfall or priority Ice Shard. Hydration Lapras is a force to be reckoned with.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Ice Shard
    move 3: Dragon Dance
    move 4: Rest
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Impish
    ability: Hydration
    evs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set is fairly straightforward: set up Dragon Dances, Rest when necessary. Get enough boosts to be able to sweep, and then do just that.</p>

    -dragon dance, rest, sweep...simple as that
    -waterfall is primary stab and hits stuff hard
    -ice shard is priority and secondary stab, good coverage along with waterfall
    -rest to restore all hp and abuse hydration to its fullest
    -nothing to slash in, this is the only moveset dd lapras should be running

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    -evs max out bulk and such while keeping lapras alive in key situations
    -cb scizor bullet punch is a guaranteed 4hko factoring in leftovers
    -max atk lo techniloom mach punch will not ko even with a crit
    -lapras will survive specs latios thunder 100% of the time
    -will also survive 252 atk lo infernape cc and terrakion cc (no life orb)
    -leftovers is nice to have so you don't have to rest all the time, life orb is an option but not recommended
    -requires rain support, otherwise rest will leave it incapacitated for a couple turns
    -likes a spinner because switching into rocks is annoying
    -loves tspikes support because jellicent is the #1 "check" outside of weather starters
    -needs rain always
    -great partners include specs signal beam gothitelle, which removes a ton of its counters
    -toxic is a possibility over ice shard for hitting jellicent and politoed, among others
    -an ev spread of 120 atk / 152 spdef / 236 spe @ jolly nature is an option if you prefer a much more offensive lapras, but the lack of bulk is very noticeable

    [SET]
    name: Curse
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Ice Shard
    move 3: Curse
    move 4: Rest
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Careful
    ability: Hydration
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Similar to the Dragon Dance set, except this focuses much more on being indestructible. After a couple Curses, there's literally nothing that can OHKO you unboosted. Just like the DD set, grab a couple boosts and start sweeping.</p>

    -exactly like the dd set but with curse instead
    -waterfall for primary stab
    -ice shard for secondary stab, coverage, and priority which is really nice when you're slower than a ferrothorn
    -rest to restore all hp and abuse hydration to its fullest

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    -evs max out bulk and special defense because you're boosting defense
    -unlike the dd set, this one has hardly any threats
    -at +1 it can take a terrakion cc even with life orb (75%)
    -at +2 even band terrak cc won't kill it
    -basically unbreakable unless you have specs thun-t or some bs (even then it's KOd by a +2-3 ice shard)
    -still hates jellicent a ton, loves tspikes
    -spinner is nice to avoid 25% from rocks on the switch
    -once again, needs rain to function
    -still loves specs goth as a partner

    [Other Options]

    <p>This is basically all Lapras has to offer in the realm of OU. No other truly viable options exist. An offensive Dragon Dance set with Life Orb over Leftovers could be possible, but given that Lapras' defensive capabilities are far superior to its offensive ones, this isn't such a great plan. A Perish Trapper set is a far-fetched idea that sounds somewhat promising, but given the very few things Lapras can actually trap it's not recommended.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The most important checks/counters to Lapras are opposing weather starters; specifically Abomasnow and Ninetales, as the former can switch in on even a +6 Waterfall and scare it out, while the latter can switch in at up to +4. Tyranitar and Hippowdon don't like eating a Waterfall nearly as much as the other two, but if they predict correctly and come in on a Rest, thus negating Hydration's effect, then Lapras is stuck. Even Politoed can cause Lapras some trouble, forcing the Curse set to be Encored into Curse/Rest and making the DD set switch out with Perish Song.</p>

    <p>Outside of weather, few checks and counters to Lapras exist: Skarmory can phaze it out while taking little from a +1 Waterfall, but it's not a permanent solution to the problem. Slowbro does well against the Curse set, but the Dragon Dance set can get to +6 and flinch it to death with Waterfall. Ferrothorn can beat the Dragon Dance set by Leech Seeding it, then spamming Power Whip, but merely annoys the Curse set. Water Absorb Jellicent is the best option, taking a negligible 19.31% - 23.02% from even a +6 Ice Shard. Additionally, Jellicent is able to Taunt, rendering Lapras unable to boost or use Rest to recover, two major factors that need to be disabled in order to remove it.</p>

    <p>There aren't a ton of checks to Lapras in the realm of offense. Trick really screws it, as Lapras depends on being able to use all 4 of its moves whenever it needs to, so being locked into anything is a huge problem. Thundurus-T can take a +1 Ice Shard and OHKO with a Life Orb-boosted Thunder, but +2 and +3 Ice Shards scare it off. Choice Band Terrakion can take on the DD set, but falls to a +2 Curse Lapras. Conkeldurr is a 100% counter, as it can shrug off even a +2 Waterfall and deal massive damage back with unboosted Drain Punch, putting it in Mach Punch KO range. It can also boost up alongside the Curse set and beat it bar a Lapras crit. Toxicroak is possibly even better than Conkeldurr for this job, as it doesn't take any damage from Lapras' primary STAB due to Dry Skin, and can OHKO with a +2 Drain Punch against the DD set or Bulk Up alongside the Curse set. Magnezone can usually 2HKO either Lapras with Thunderbolt. Specs Keldeo can 2HKO the DD set but can't beat the Curse set unless it switches in immediately. CM Keldeo is a shaky check to Lapras, as it all depends on who predicts correctly to determine the victor of the CM/Curse war.</p>

    <p>Finally, remember; when attempting to defeat Lapras under Rain, status is not an option!</p>
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    No OO mention of the classic GSC style Perish Trapper set to remove bulky waters/special dragons? Hydration is cool in conjunction with Rest since he can stall Perish Song turns that way.

    Lapras @ Leftovers
    Trait: Hydration
    EVs: 252 HP / 216 SDef / 40 Def
    Calm Nature
    - Whirlpool
    - Rest
    - Perish Song
    - Ice Beam

    It might be pretty gimmicky, but I believe got buffed to 4-5 turn this gen meaning you always have the turns to Perish Song trap.
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    added the bs set listed above me in OO
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    Log 1 (open)
    DoughBoy Test joined.
    Pansear! joined.
    Format: OU
    Rated battle
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: OHKO Clause
    Rule: Evasion Clause
    DoughBoy Test's team:
    Politoed / Lapras / Tornadus-Therian / Forretress / Latias / Genesect
    Pansear!'s team:
    Ferrothorn / Jirachi / Donphan / Thundurus-Therian / Azumarill / Politoed
    Battle between DoughBoy Test and Pansear! started!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    Pansear! sent out The Rain (Politoed)!
    The foe's The Rain's Drizzle made it rain!
    Turn 1
    The foe's The Rain used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's not very effective... The foe's The Rain lost 7% of its health!
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    The foe's The Rain is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 2
    The foe's The Rain used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's The Rain's perish count fell to 3.
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    The foe's The Rain is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 3
    The foe's The Rain used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    Lapras used Rest!
    But it failed!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's The Rain's perish count fell to 2.
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    The foe's The Rain is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 4
    The foe's The Rain used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    Lapras used Ice Beam!
    It's not very effective... The foe's The Rain lost 12% of its health!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's The Rain's perish count fell to 1.
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    The foe's The Rain is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 5
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    The foe's The Rain used Toxic!
    Politoed was badly poisoned!
    The foe's The Rain's perish count fell to 0.
    Politoed was hurt by poison!
    The foe's The Rain fainted!
    Pansear! sent out The Nuisance (Jirachi)!

    Turn 6
    The foe's The Nuisance used Thunder!
    It's super effective! Politoed lost 50% of its health!
    Politoed used Surf!
    The foe's The Nuisance lost 59% of its health!
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Politoed was hurt by poison!
    Turn 7
    Pansear! called The Nuisance back!
    Pansear! sent out The Cliche (Azumarill)!
    Politoed used Surf!
    It's not very effective... The foe's The Cliche lost 46% of its health!
    Politoed was hurt by poison!
    Turn 8
    The foe's The Cliche used Aqua Jet!
    It's not very effective... Politoed lost 13% of its health!
    Politoed fainted!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    Turn 9
    Pansear! called The Cliche back!
    Pansear! sent out The Boring (Thundurus-Therian)!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    The foe's The Boring lost 21% of its health!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 10
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Latias!
    The foe's The Boring used Nasty Plot!
    The foe's The Boring's Special Attack sharply rose!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring's whirlpool ended!
    Turn 11
    Latias used Psyshock!
    The foe's The Boring lost 48% of its health!
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    It's not very effective... Latias lost 52% of its health!
    Latias was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 12
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    It's not very effective... Latias lost 53% of its health!
    Latias is paralyzed! It can't move!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 13
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    It's not very effective... Latias lost 7% of its health!
    Latias fainted!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Attack!
    Turn 14
    Pansear! called The Boring back!
    Pansear! sent out The Great Wall (Ferrothorn)!
    Genesect used U-turn!
    The foe's The Great Wall lost 27% of its health!
    Genesect is hurt by the foe's The Great Wall's Iron Barbs!
    DoughBoy Test called Genesect back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 15
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's not very effective... The foe's The Great Wall lost 5% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 70% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Great Wall is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 16
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Great Wall used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 68% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's The Great Wall is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 17
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Great Wall used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 69% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's The Great Wall is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 18
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Great Wall used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 63% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's The Great Wall is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 19
    Pansear!: cool lapras
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Great Wall used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 70% of its health!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's The Great Wall's whirlpool ended!
    Turn 20
    DoughBoy Test: just trying stuff out, politoed could have had a similar set had whirlpool been a tutor move
    DoughBoy Test: waiting for a miss :(
    Pansear! called The Great Wall back!
    Pansear! sent out The Nuisance (Jirachi)!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    Turn 21
    DoughBoy Test: >_>
    The foe's The Nuisance used Wish!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's The Nuisance's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 22
    Pansear! called The Nuisance back!
    Pansear! sent out The Boring (Thundurus-Therian)!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    The foe's The Boring lost 22% of its health!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The Nuisance's wish came true!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 23
    The foe's The Boring used Grass Knot!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 52% of its health!
    Lapras used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's The Boring lost 76% of its health!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 24
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Forretress!
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    Forretress lost 99% of its health!
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Boring's whirlpool ended!
    Turn 25
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    Forretress lost 7% of its health!
    Forretress fainted!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    Turn 26
    Pansear! called The Boring back!
    Pansear! sent out The Great Wall (Ferrothorn)!
    Tornadus-Therian used Hurricane!
    The foe's The Great Wall lost 51% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    The foe's The Great Wall restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 27
    Tornadus-Therian used Hurricane!
    The foe's The Great Wall lost 35% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    The foe's The Great Wall fainted!
    Pansear! sent out The Cliche (Azumarill)!
    Turn 28
    DoughBoy Test called Tornadus-Therian back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    The foe's The Cliche used Aqua Jet!
    It's not very effective... Lapras lost 23% of its health!
    Turn 29
    Pansear! called The Cliche back!
    Pansear! sent out The Nuisance (Jirachi)!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    Turn 30
    The foe's The Nuisance used Wish!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    The foe's The Nuisance lost 11% of its health!
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Nuisance is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 31
    The foe's The Nuisance used Thunder!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 32% of its health!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's The Nuisance's perish count fell to 3.
    The Nuisance's wish came true!
    The foe's The Nuisance is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 32
    The foe's The Nuisance used Thunder!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 31% of its health!
    Lapras was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's The Nuisance's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's The Nuisance is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 33
    The foe's The Nuisance used Wish!
    Lapras used Rest!
    But it failed!
    The foe's The Nuisance's perish count fell to 1.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's The Nuisance restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's The Nuisance is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 34
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    The foe's The Nuisance used Thunder!
    It's super effective! Tornadus-Therian lost 70% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
    The foe's The Nuisance's perish count fell to 0.
    The foe's The Nuisance fainted!
    Pansear! sent out The Boring (Thundurus-Therian)!

    Turn 35
    The foe's The Boring used Thunder!
    It's super effective! Tornadus-Therian lost 30% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian fainted!
    The foe's The Boring restored HP using its Leftovers!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Attack!
    Turn 36
    Pansear! called The Boring back!
    Pansear! sent out The Sneak (Donphan)!
    Genesect used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's The Sneak lost 98% of its health!
    The foe's The Sneak restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 37
    The foe's The Sneak used Ice Shard!
    It's not very effective... Genesect lost 8% of its health!
    Genesect used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's The Sneak lost 8% of its health!
    The foe's The Sneak fainted!
    Pansear! sent out The Cliche (Azumarill)!
    Turn 38
    DoughBoy Test called Genesect back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    The foe's The Cliche used Aqua Jet!
    It's not very effective... Lapras lost 26% of its health!
    Turn 39
    Pansear! called The Cliche back!
    Pansear! sent out The Boring (Thundurus-Therian)!
    Lapras used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's The Boring lost 36% of its health!
    The foe's The Boring fainted!
    DoughBoy Test: gg
    Pansear! sent out The Cliche (Azumarill)!

    Turn 40
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    The foe's The Cliche used Waterfall!
    It's not very effective... Lapras lost 45% of its health!
    The foe's The Cliche's perish count fell to 3.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    Turn 41
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's The Cliche used Waterfall!
    A critical hit! It's not very effective... Lapras lost 100% of its health!
    Lapras fainted!
    The foe's The Cliche's perish count fell to 2.
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Attack!
    Turn 42
    Genesect used Thunder!
    It's super effective! The foe's The Cliche lost 54% of its health!
    The foe's The Cliche fainted!
    DoughBoy Test won the battle!
    Ladder updating...
    DoughBoy Test's rating: 1720 → 1724
    (+4 for winning)
    Pansear!'s rating: 1602 → 1597
    (-11 for losing, +6 from bonus pool)
    Pansear! left.

    Log 2 - Showcase of Special Bulk vs +3 Latias (open)
    DoughBoy Test joined.
    ynomir50 joined.
    Format: OU
    Rated battle
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: OHKO Clause
    Rule: Evasion Clause
    DoughBoy Test's team:
    Politoed / Lapras / Tornadus-Therian / Forretress / Latias / Genesect
    ynomir50's team:
    Latias / Magnezone / Donphan / Tyranitar / Celebi / Espeon
    Battle between DoughBoy Test and ynomir50 started!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    ynomir50 sent out Latias!
    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
    Turn 1
    DoughBoy Test called Politoed back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    The foe's Latias used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Latias's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Latias's Special Defense rose!
    Turn 2
    The foe's Latias used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Latias's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Latias's Special Defense rose!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Latias lost 3% of its health!
    The foe's Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Latias is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 3
    The foe's Latias used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Latias's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Latias's Special Defense rose!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    The foe's Latias's perish count fell to 3.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Latias is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 4
    The foe's Latias used Dragon Pulse!
    Lapras lost 47% of its health!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's Latias's perish count fell to 2.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's Latias is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 5
    The foe's Latias used Dragon Pulse!
    Lapras lost 44% of its health!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Latias's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Latias restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's Latias is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 6
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Forretress!
    The foe's Latias used Dragon Pulse!
    It's not very effective... Forretress lost 61% of its health!
    The foe's Latias's perish count fell to 0.
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Latias fainted!
    ynomir50 sent out Magnezone!

    Turn 7
    The foe's Magnezone used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective! Forretress lost 45% of its health!
    Forretress fainted!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    Turn 8
    ynomir50 called Magnezone back!
    ynomir50 sent out Tyranitar!
    The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
    Tornadus-Therian used U-turn!
    It's super effective! The foe's Tyranitar lost 36% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    DoughBoy Test called Tornadus-Therian back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
    Turn 9
    ynomir50 called Tyranitar back!
    ynomir50 sent out Celebi!
    Politoed used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's Celebi lost 77% of its health!
    The foe's Celebi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 10
    DoughBoy Test called Politoed back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Special Attack!
    The foe's Celebi used Giga Drain!
    It's not very effective... Genesect lost 8% of its health!
    Genesect had its energy drained!
    The foe's Celebi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 11
    ynomir50 called Celebi back!
    ynomir50 sent out Donphan!
    Genesect used U-turn!
    A critical hit! The foe's Donphan lost 31% of its health!
    DoughBoy Test called Genesect back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    The foe's Donphan restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 12
    ynomir50 called Donphan back!
    ynomir50 sent out Magnezone!
    Politoed used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Magnezone lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Magnezone fainted!
    ynomir50 sent out Tyranitar!
    The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
    Turn 13
    The foe's Tyranitar used Dragon Dance!
    The foe's Tyranitar's Attack rose!
    The foe's Tyranitar's Speed rose!
    Politoed used Hydro Pump!
    It's super effective! The foe's Tyranitar lost 64% of its health!
    The foe's Tyranitar fainted!
    The sandstorm rages.
    Politoed is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    ynomir50 sent out Espeon!
    Turn 14
    DoughBoy Test called Politoed back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    The foe's Espeon used Light Screen!
    Light Screen raised the foe's team's special defense!
    The sandstorm rages.
    Tornadus-Therian is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The foe's Espeon is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Turn 15
    ynomir50 called Espeon back!
    ynomir50 sent out Donphan!
    Tornadus-Therian used U-turn!
    The foe's Donphan lost 11% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    DoughBoy Test called Tornadus-Therian back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Special Attack!
    The sandstorm rages.
    The foe's Donphan restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 16
    Genesect used Bug Buzz!
    The foe's Donphan lost 46% of its health!
    The foe's Donphan used Earthquake!
    Genesect lost 54% of its health!
    The sandstorm rages.
    The foe's Donphan restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 17
    Genesect used Bug Buzz!
    The foe's Donphan lost 31% of its health!
    The foe's Donphan fainted!
    The sandstorm rages.
    ynomir50 sent out Espeon!
    Turn 18
    Genesect used Bug Buzz!
    It's super effective! The foe's Espeon lost 85% of its health!
    The foe's Espeon used Hidden Power!
    Genesect lost 25% of its health!
    The sandstorm rages.
    The foe's Espeon is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Turn 19
    Genesect used Bug Buzz!
    A critical hit! It's super effective! The foe's Espeon lost 3% of its health!
    The foe's Espeon fainted!
    The sandstorm rages.
    ynomir50 sent out Celebi!
    Turn 20
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    Genesect used Bug Buzz!
    It's super effective! The foe's Celebi lost 39% of its health!
    The foe's Celebi fainted!
    DoughBoy Test won the battle!
    Ladder updating...
    DoughBoy Test's rating: 1726 → 1729
    (+3 for winning)
    ynomir50's rating: 926 → 1003
    (-31 for losing, +108 from bonus pool)
    ynomir50 left.


    Ok so for this log this guy was using a Shuckle (had a legit team outside that), but it is to showcase how it can remove Sp. Def Jirachi for Tornadus-T and Genesect.
    Log 3 (open)
    DoughBoy Test joined.
    bazzoCx joined.
    Format: OU
    Rated battle
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: OHKO Clause
    Rule: Evasion Clause
    DoughBoy Test's team:
    Politoed / Lapras / Tornadus-Therian / Forretress / Latias / Genesect
    bazzoCx's team:
    Shuckle / Scizor / Toxicroak / Politoed / Jirachi / Tornadus-Therian
    Battle between DoughBoy Test and bazzoCx started!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    bazzoCx sent out Shuckle!
    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
    Turn 1
    Politoed used Surf!
    It's super effective! The foe's Shuckle held on thanks to Sturdy!
    The foe's Shuckle lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Shuckle used Stealth Rock!
    Pointed stones float in the air around your team!
    The foe's Shuckle restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 2
    DoughBoy Test called Politoed back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Forretress!
    Pointed stones dug into Forretress!
    bazzoCx called Shuckle back!
    bazzoCx sent out Jirachi!
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 3
    The foe's Jirachi used Iron Head!
    A critical hit! It's not very effective... Forretress lost 14% of its health!
    Forretress flinched!
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 4
    The foe's Jirachi used Iron Head!
    It's not very effective... Forretress lost 7% of its health!
    Forretress used Rapid Spin!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Jirachi lost 2% of its health!
    The pointed stones disappeared from around your team!
    The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 5
    The foe's Jirachi used Wish!
    Forretress used Stealth Rock!
    Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 6
    bazzoCx called Jirachi back!
    bazzoCx sent out Shuckle!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Shuckle!
    The foe's Shuckle fainted!
    Forretress used Volt Switch!
    But there was no target...
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    bazzoCx sent out Toxicroak!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Toxicroak!
    Turn 7
    DoughBoy Test called Forretress back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Latias!
    The foe's Toxicroak used Substitute!
    The foe's Toxicroak put in a substitute!
    The foe's Toxicroak lost 25% of its health!
    The foe's Toxicroak's Dry Skin heals it!
    The foe's Toxicroak restored HP using its Black Sludge!
    Turn 8
    Latias used Psyshock!
    It's super effective! The foe's Toxicroak's substitute faded!
    The foe's Toxicroak used Bulk Up!
    The foe's Toxicroak's Attack rose!
    The foe's Toxicroak's Defense rose!
    The foe's Toxicroak's Dry Skin heals it!
    Turn 9
    The foe's Toxicroak used Sucker Punch!
    But it failed!
    Latias used Calm Mind!
    Latias's Special Attack rose!
    Latias's Special Defense rose!
    Turn 10
    Latias used Psyshock!
    It's super effective! The foe's Toxicroak lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Toxicroak fainted!
    bazzoCx sent out Scizor!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Scizor!
    Turn 11
    The foe's Scizor used Pursuit!
    It's super effective! Latias lost 100% of its health!
    Latias fainted!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    Turn 12
    bazzoCx called Scizor back!
    bazzoCx sent out Jirachi!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    The foe's Jirachi lost 9% of its health!
    The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Jirachi is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 13
    The foe's Jirachi used Body Slam!
    Lapras lost 17% of its health!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    The foe's Jirachi's perish count fell to 3.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Jirachi is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 14
    The foe's Jirachi used Body Slam!
    Lapras lost 16% of its health!
    Lapras was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's Jirachi's perish count fell to 2.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's Jirachi is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 15
    The foe's Jirachi used Iron Head!
    Lapras lost 21% of its health!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Jirachi's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's Jirachi is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 16
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Forretress!
    The foe's Jirachi used Ice Punch!
    It's not very effective... Forretress lost 5% of its health!
    Forretress was frozen solid!
    The foe's Jirachi's perish count fell to 0.
    Forretress restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Jirachi fainted!
    bazzoCx sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Tornadus-Therian!

    Turn 17
    The foe's Tornadus-Therian used Hurricane!
    Forretress lost 99% of its health!
    The foe's Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    Forretress fainted!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Attack!
    Turn 18
    Genesect used Thunder!
    It's super effective! The foe's Tornadus-Therian lost 65% of its health!
    The foe's Tornadus-Therian fainted!
    bazzoCx sent out Scizor!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Scizor!
    Turn 19
    The foe's Scizor used Pursuit!
    It's not very effective... Genesect lost 34% of its health!
    DoughBoy Test called Genesect back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    Turn 20
    bazzoCx called Scizor back!
    bazzoCx sent out Politoed!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Politoed lost 7% of its health!
    The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Politoed is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 21
    The foe's Politoed used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Politoed's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    The foe's Politoed is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 22
    The foe's Politoed used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 16% of its health!
    Lapras used Ice Beam!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Politoed lost 13% of its health!
    The foe's Politoed's perish count fell to 2.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Politoed is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 23
    The foe's Politoed used Hidden Power!
    A critical hit! It's super effective! Lapras lost 31% of its health!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's Politoed's perish count fell to 1.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    The foe's Politoed is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 24
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Tornadus-Therian!
    The foe's Politoed used Hidden Power!
    It's not very effective... Tornadus-Therian lost 8% of its health!
    The foe's Politoed's perish count fell to 0.
    The foe's Politoed fainted!
    bazzoCx sent out Scizor!
    Pointed stones dug into the foe's Scizor!

    Turn 25
    Tornadus-Therian used Hurricane!
    The foe's Scizor lost 63% of its health!
    Tornadus-Therian lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Scizor fainted!
    DoughBoy Test won the battle!
    Ladder updating...
    DoughBoy Test's rating: 1723 → 1725
    (+2 for winning)
    bazzoCx's rating: 1213 → 1217
    (-14 for losing, +18 from bonus pool)
    bazzoCx left.


    Seems pretty effective to me for a "BS set". More to come

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    Log 4 - Lapras Traps Ferrothorn (open)
    DoughBoy Test joined.
    Abc92 joined.
    Format: OU
    Rated battle
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: OHKO Clause
    Rule: Evasion Clause
    DoughBoy Test's team:
    Politoed / Lapras / Tornadus-Therian / Forretress / Latias / Genesect
    Abc92's team:
    Ninetales / Vaporeon / Landorus-Therian / Latios / Ferrothorn / Gengar
    Battle between DoughBoy Test and Abc92 started!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Politoed!
    Abc92 sent out Landorus-Therian!
    The foe's Landorus-Therian intimidates Politoed!
    Politoed's Attack fell!
    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
    Turn 1
    The foe's Landorus-Therian used U-turn!
    Politoed lost 34% of its health!
    Abc92 called Landorus-Therian back!
    Abc92 sent out Vaporeon!
    Politoed used Focus Blast!
    The foe's Vaporeon lost 27% of its health!
    The foe's Vaporeon restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 2
    DoughBoy Test called Politoed back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Lapras!
    The foe's Vaporeon used Toxic!
    Lapras was badly poisoned!
    The foe's Vaporeon restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras was cured of its poisoning.
    Turn 3
    Abc92 called Vaporeon back!
    Abc92 sent out Landorus-Therian!
    The foe's Landorus-Therian intimidates Lapras!
    Lapras's Attack fell!
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's super effective! The foe's Landorus-Therian lost 42% of its health!
    The foe's Landorus-Therian is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 4
    The restart or kick was interrupted by activity.
    The foe's Landorus-Therian used U-turn!
    Lapras lost 27% of its health!
    Abc92 called Landorus-Therian back!
    Abc92 sent out Ferrothorn!
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    Lapras woke up!
    Turn 5
    Lapras used Whirlpool!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Ferrothorn lost 6% of its health!
    The foe's Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
    The attack of the foe's Ferrothorn missed!
    The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Ferrothorn is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 6
    Lapras used Perish Song!
    All Pokémon hearing the song will faint in three turns!
    The foe's Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
    Lapras was seeded!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Ferrothorn's perish count fell to 3.
    The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
    The foe's Ferrothorn is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 7
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock!
    Pointed stones float in the air around your team!
    The foe's Ferrothorn's perish count fell to 2.
    Lapras's perish count fell to 2.
    The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    Lapras's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
    The foe's Ferrothorn is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 8
    Lapras used Rest!
    Lapras fell asleep!
    Lapras slept and became healthy!
    The foe's Ferrothorn used Power Whip!
    It's super effective! Lapras lost 62% of its health!
    Lapras's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Ferrothorn's perish count fell to 1.
    The foe's Ferrothorn restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Lapras woke up!
    Lapras's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
    The foe's Ferrothorn is hurt by Whirlpool!
    Turn 9
    DoughBoy Test called Lapras back!
    DoughBoy Test sent out Genesect!
    Pointed stones dug into Genesect!
    Genesect's Download raised its Special Attack!
    The foe's Ferrothorn used Power Whip!
    It's not very effective... Genesect lost 14% of its health!
    The foe's Ferrothorn's perish count fell to 0.
    The foe's Ferrothorn fainted!
    Abc92 sent out Landorus-Therian!
    The foe's Landorus-Therian intimidates Genesect!
    Genesect's Attack fell!

    Turn 10
    Genesect used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's Landorus-Therian lost 52% of its health!
    The foe's Landorus-Therian fainted!
    Abc92 forfeited.
    DoughBoy Test won the battle!
    Ladder updating...
    DoughBoy Test's rating: 1720 → 1723
    (+3 for winning)
    Abc92's rating: 1556 → 1554
    (-2 for losing)
    Abc92 left.
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    ok referring to it as a "bs set" was the joke, I know it can do great things etc., that's why I added it instead of blowing you off. calm down.
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