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Lickilicky (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2)

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  1. Zebraiken

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    Lickilicky

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    [Overview]

    <p>Even with above average defenses and a movepool twice as long as its tongue, Lickilicky finds itself firmly entrenched in the lower tiers. Lickilicky's great 110 / 95 / 95 defenses are among the best available in RU, and its respectable base 85 Attack prevents it from being a sitting duck. Additionally, Lickilicky boasts the second largest Wish in RU, second to only Alomomola. The fun doesn't stop there; Lickilicky has a ton of other support options, including Heal Bell, Dragon Tail, Knock Off, Disable, and Seismic Toss, making it an excellent team supporter. Clefable is Lickilicky's only real challenger in RU as a specially defensive Wish passer; thanks to Magic Guard, Clefable maintains an immunity to entry hazard damage and status moves, as well as all other forms of indirect damage. However, Lickilicky has several advantages over Clefable, including superior natural defenses, a bigger Wish, and Dragon Tail. If you really need another reason to use Lickilicky, it's worth noting that Lickilicky has the strongest Explosion in the game, letting it go out with quite a bang.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Protect
    move 3: Body Slam / Return
    move 4: Dragon Tail
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Own Tempo
    nature: Careful
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Thanks to its good bulk, ability to pass enormous Wishes, and access to phazing in Dragon Tail, Lickilicky makes for an outstanding team supporter. Wish in combination with Protect allows Lickilicky to both heal itself and its teammates. With a monstrous 212 HP being passed every time Lickilicky uses Wish, the recipient will often be recovering more than half of their health. Furthermore, Protect allows Lickilicky to scout a potential Trick from a known Choice item user, such as Rotom-C, and respond accordingly. Body Slam provides Lickilicky with a reliable STAB move with a nifty chance of paralysis, while Return does more damage overall. Lastly, Dragon Tail is a fantastic move that allows Lickilicky to phaze out opposing Pokemon that try to set up on it, and it also spreads entry hazard damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximum HP and Special Defense investment allows Lickilicky to pass the largest Wishes possible and makes the most use of Lickilicky's typing and defenses. A physically defensive set is largely outclassed for several reasons: Alomomola functions better as a physically defensive Wish passer; Lickilicky is weak to one of the most prominent physical types, Fighting; and there are superior physical walls available in RU, such as Gligar, Steelix, and Cofagrigus.</p>

    <p>Lickilicky has many viable options on this set. Heal Bell grants Lickilicky the opportunity to act as a cleric, curing your team of status ailments. Disable is an interesting option that received a huge boost in BW; it now functions over a longer period of time, meaning that Lickilicky can lock the opponent out of using a critical move. Knock Off cripples nearly every Pokemon, ridding Eviolite users of their magnified defenses, Leftovers users of their recovery, and offensive Pokemon of their Life Orb or Choice item. Seismic Toss is usable, although it neutralizes one of Lickilicky's main draws over Clefable, a higher Attack stat and access to Body Slam. Toxic works wonders in conjunction with Protect and Wish, but Lickilicky simply doesn't have enough reason to use it over other useful moves.</p>

    <p>Physically defensive partners, especially those that resist Fighting-type moves, are capable teammates. Gligar, Cofagrigus, and Tangrowth are all viable options and can handle the plethora of Fighting-types that can hit Lickilicky. Entry hazard support is critical for Lickilicky, as Dragon Tail's effectiveness is greatly boosted when Stealth Rock and several layers of Spikes or Toxic Spikes are up. Qwilfish has Intimidate to weaken physical assaults and can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes, while Uxie can set up Stealth Rock and KO opposing Fighting-types with Psychic. Both of these Pokemon do not have access to recovery moves outside of Rest, so Lickilicky's Wish support is greatly appreciated. If a more offensively inclined Spikes user is desirable, Scolipede has a 4x resistance to Fighting-type moves and can maim the opposition with STAB Megahorn. Ghost-type Pokemon such as Spiritomb, Dusknoir, and Rotom all pair well with Lickilicky, as they can easily handle obnoxious Fighting-type Pokemon and burn them with Will-O-Wisp, as well as block Rapid Spin from ridding the hazards that generally come with Lickilicky. Lastly, Steelix or bulky Water-types, such as Lanturn and Slowking, make for good partners, as they can handle Klinklang and other Steel-type Pokemon who try to set up on Lickilicky.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lickilicky has an incredible movepool that many offensive powerhouses can only dream of. Lickilicky has many great coverage moves, including Earthquake, Power Whip, Aqua Tail, Brick Break, Rock Slide, Hammer Arm, Zen Headbutt, ThunderPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, and Gyro Ball on the physical side, and Surf, Focus Blast, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball on the special end. Any of these moves can be used for coverage over a particular Pokemon—for example, if Omastar is a huge threat to your team, you could use Power Whip to OHKO it after it uses Shell Smash. Lickilicky gets a variety of boosting moves, including Curse, Work Up, and Swords Dance, but is often outclassed by more offensively inclined Pokemon, such as Sceptile and Kabutops. Lickilicky has enough HP to make 101 HP Substitutes coupled with Focus Punch, but there are stronger Pokemon, like Golurk and Hitmonchan, who use such a set better. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are both interesting options, but Lickilicky doesn't benefit from the weather itself, and it doesn't receive STAB on the moves that do. Rest and Sleep Talk are severely outclassed by Wish, which can be passed to a teammate, and Heal Bell rids it of status already. Cloud Nine, Lickilicky's Dream World ability, would be the primary option if it were not illegal with several of Lickilicky's key moves, including Wish.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Fighting-types, such as Hitmonchan, Gallade, Medicham, and Hitmonlee, can all devastate Lickilicky with their STAB moves, although the latter two must be wary when using Hi Jump Kick because of Protect. Taunt prevents Lickilicky from healing itself, which often means a swift demise. If not using Heal Bell, Toxic and other forms of status will quickly wear down Lickilicky. Aggron, Klinklang, and other bulky Rock- and Steel-types are not bothered by anything Lickilicky can throw at them bar the rare Earthquake, and can either set up on it or simply attack. Golurk can set up a Substitute and then Focus Punch away, as Dragon Tail will not break its Substitute.</p>
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    Make Body Slam the main option since it spreads paralysis, which is always nice for a wall to do. Move Heal Bell to AC, since without Dragon Tail, this Lickilicky is just complete set-up fodder. Also, mention in the AC how Bulky Water-types can be good teammates since they can take on Steel-types that carry Substitute, such as Klinklang, who can easily set up on Lickilicky.

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    What Shake said :P

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    cool beans. i thought i already had body slam first but i guess that's just my fault. x)

    done, thanks guys!
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    Another reason to always use Body Slam is that you avoid being outclassed by Clefable. When using Return, Clefable outclasses you in the attacking department (talking about defensive sets of 'course) since her Double-Edge hits harder than your Return. Because Clefable cannot use Body Slam, because of her low attack and Body Slam's low BP, Lickylicky does something that Clefable doesn't.

    Also i think that you should highlight Lickylicky's biggest advantages over Clefable which are its way better physical defense and it's ability to wall some special attackers better (not always though,depends on how many hazards you have on your side). For example Clefable has a chance of getting ohkoed by LO Timid Omastar's Hydro Pump and is 100% of the times ohkoed by LO Modest Omastar, at +2 obviously. Lickylicky almost never gets ohkoed from the first Omastar after SR and Lefties and ohkoes with Power Whip. Against the second Omastar Lickylicky has a small chance of surviving after SR and Lefties and a higher than 50% chance to survive if you use Protect.

    Anyway i don't know if any of these are helpful, just food for thought.
  6. Zebraiken

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    Will mention this when writing it up. I do want to point out, though, that since Lickilicky has a base 85 Attack stat when compared to Clefable's base 70, its uninvested Return still outdamages Clefable's uninvested Double-Edge most of the time. For example, Lickilicky does 44.78% - 52.86% with Return vs Magmortar, while Clefable only manages 40.4% - 47.81%. Thanks though!
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    Make sure to emphasize Dragon Tail in the writeup, that's Lickilicky's most important advantage over the other WishPassers imo.

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    Thanks Honko.

    Will start writing this as soon as I finish NU Serperior.
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    That's because you used a hindering nature on Clefable. With a neutral nature Clefable does slightly more against Magmortar (45.45 - 53.53%).
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    This is written.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Even with above-average, balanced defenses and a movepool twice as long as its tongue, Lickilicky finds itself firmly entrenched in the lower tiers. Lickilicky's great 110 / 95 defenses are among the best available in RU, and its respectable base 85 Attack prevents it from being a sitting duck. Additionally, Lickilicky boasts the second largest Wish in RU, second to only Alomomola. Lickilicky has a ton of other support options, including Heal Bell, Dragon Tail, Knock Off, Disable, and Seismic Toss, making Lickilicky an excellent team supporter. Clefable is Lickilicky's only real challenger in RU as a specially defensive Wish passer; thanks to Magic Guard, Clefable maintains an immunity to entry hazard damage and status moves, as well as all other forms of indirect damage. However, Lickilicky has several advantages over Clefairy, including superior natural defenses, a bigger Wish, and Dragon Tail. If you really need another reason to use Lickilicky, it's worth noting that Lickilicky has the strongest Explosion in the game, letting it go out with quite a bang.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Protect
    move 3: Body Slam / Return
    move 4: Dragon Tail
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Own Tempo
    nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Thanks to Lickilicky's good bulk, ability to pass enormous Wishes, and access to phazing in Dragon Tail, Lickilicky makes for an outstanding team supporter. Wish and Protect, in combination allow Lickilicky to heal itself up, as well as its teammates. With a monstrous 212 HP being passed every time Lickilicky uses Wish, the recipient will often be recovering more than half of their health. Furthermore, Protect allows Lickilicky to scout out a potential Trick from a known Choice item user, such as Rotom-C, and respond accordingly. Body Slam provides Lickilicky with a reliable STAB move with a nifty chance of paralysis, while Return does more damage overall. Lastly, Dragon Tail is a fantastic move, that allows Lickilicky to phaze opposing Pokemon that try to set up on it and spread entry hazard damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximum HP and Special Defense investment allows Lickilicky to pass the largest Wishes possible and makes the most use of Lickilicky's typing and defenses. A physically defensive set is largely outclassed for several reasons: firstly, Alomomola functions better as a physically defensive Wish passer; secondly, Lickilicky is weak to one of the most prominent physical types, Fighting; and lastly, there are superior physical walls available in RU, such as Gligar, Steelix, and Cofagrigus.</p>

    <p>Lickilicky has many viable moveset options. Heal Bell grants Lickilicky the opportunity to act as a cleric, curing your team of status ailments. Disable is an interesting option that received a huge boost in BW; it now functions over a longer period of time, meaning that Lickilicky can lock the opponent out of using a critical move. Knock Off cripples nearly every Pokemon, ridding Eviolite users of their magnified defenses, Leftovers users of their recovery, and can neuter offensive Pokemon by removing their Life Orb or Choice item. Seismic Toss is usable, although it neutralizes one of Lickilicky's main draws over Clefable, a higher Attack stat and access to Body Slam. Toxic works wonders in conjunction with Protect and Wish, but Lickilicky simply doesn't have enough reason to use it over other useful moves.</p>

    <p>Physically defensive partners, especially those that resist Fighting-type moves, are capable partners. Gligar, Cofagrigus, and Tangrowth are all viable options and can handle the plethora of Fighting-types that can hit Lickilicky. Entry hazards support is critical for Lickilicky, as Dragon Tail's effectiveness is greatly boosted when Stealth Rock and several layers of Spikes or Toxic Spikes are up. Qwilfish has Intimidate to weaken physical assaults and can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes, while Uxie can set up Stealth Rock and KO opposing Fighting-types with Psychic. Both of these Pokemon do not have access to recovery moves outside of Rest, so Lickilicky's Wish support is greatly appreciated. If a more offensively inclined Spikes user is desirable, Scolipede has a 4x resistance to Fighting-type moves and can maim the opposition with STAB Megahorn. Ghost-type Pokemon such as Spiritomb, Misdreavus, and Rotom all pair well with Lickilicky, as they can easily handle obnoxious Fighting-type Pokemon and burn them with Will-O-Wisp, as well as block Rapid Spin for the hazards that generally come with Lickilicky. Lastly, Steelix or bulky Water-types, such as Lanturn and Slowking make for good partners, as they can handle Klinklang and other Steel-type Pokemon who try to set up on Lickilicky.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lickilicky has an incredible movepool that many offensive powerhouses would dream of. Lickilicky has many great coverage moves, including Earthquake, Power Whip, Aqua Tail, Brick Break, Rock Slide, Hammer Arm, Zen Headbutt, Thunderpunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, and Gyro Ball on the physical side, and Surf, Focus Blast, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball on the special end. Any of these moves can be used for coverage over a particular Pokemon—for example, if Omastar is a huge threat to your team, you could use Power Whip to OHKO it after it uses Shell Smash. Lickilicky gets a variety of boosting moves, including Curse, Work Up, and Swords Dance, but is often outclassed by more offensively inclined Pokemon, such as Sceptile and Kabutops. Lickilicky has enough HP to make 101 HP Substitutes coupled with Focus Punch, but there are stronger Pokemon such as Golurk, who use such a set better. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are both interesting options, but Lickilicky can't make use of weather itself. Rest and Sleep Talk are severely outclassed by Wish, which can be passed to a teammate. Cloud Nine is Lickilicky's Dream World ability and would be the primary option, if it were not illegal with several of Lickilicky's key moves, including Wish.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Fighting-types, such as Hitmonchan, Gallade, Medicham, and Hitmonlee can all devastate Lickilicky with their STAB moves, although the latter two must be wary when using Hi Jump Kick because of Protect. Taunt prevents Lickilicky from healing itself and can often mean a swift demise. If not using Heal Bell, Toxic and other forms of status will quickly wear down on Lickilicky. Aggron, Klinklang, and other bulky Rock- and Steel-types are not bothered by anything Lickilicky can throw at them, and can either set up on it or simply attack. Golurk can set up a Substitute and then Focus Punch away, as Dragon Tail will not break its Substitute.</p>


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    Thanks, badal. I just started writing up the Overview using "he" and I kept it throughout, though I suppose "it" is more applicable, yeah. Also, the second part of the AC refers directly to the moves that can be effectively used on the listed set (probably in place of Protect) and I changed the wording accordingly. I've always been under the impression that OO is where you list moves/options that are outclassed or aren't exactly set-worthy, whereas the ones in AC are moves that can be used for that specific set.

    Also, I kept both defenses listed in the reference to Lickilicky's bulk in the Overview; one of its draws over Clefable is the fact that it has wonderful balanced bulk and takes physical hits much better than Clefable, so I think that even though it's a specially defensive set, it's worth mentioning that Lickilicky has good Defense. Thanks for the check!
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    [Overview]

    <p>Even with above average, balanced defenses and a movepool twice as long as its tongue, Lickilicky finds itself firmly entrenched in the lower tiers. Lickilicky's great 110 / 95 / 95 defenses are among the best available in RU, and its respectable base 85 Attack prevents it from being a sitting duck. Additionally, Lickilicky boasts the second largest Wish in RU, second to only Alomomola. Lickilicky has a ton of other support options, including Heal Bell, Dragon Tail, Knock Off, Disable, and Seismic Toss, making Lickilicky an excellent team supporter. Clefable is Lickilicky's only real challenger in RU as a specially defensive Wish passer; thanks to Magic Guard, Clefable maintains an immunity to entry hazard damage and status moves, as well as all other forms of indirect damage. However, Lickilicky has several advantages over Clefairy, including superior natural defenses, a bigger Wish, and Dragon Tail. If you really need another reason to use Lickilicky, it's worth noting that Lickilicky has the strongest Explosion in the game, letting it go out with quite a bang.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Protect
    move 3: Body Slam / Return
    move 4: Dragon Tail
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Own Tempo
    nature: Careful
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Thanks to Lickilicky's good bulk, ability to pass enormous Wishes, and access to phazing in Dragon Tail, Lickilicky makes for an outstanding team supporter. Wish in combination with and Protect, in combination allows Lickilicky to heal both itself and its teammates itself up, as well as its teammates. With a monstrous 212 HP being passed every time Lickilicky uses Wish, the recipient will often be recovering more than half of their health. Furthermore, Protect allows Lickilicky to scout out a potential Trick from a known Choice item user, such as Rotom-C, and respond accordingly. Body Slam provides Lickilicky with a reliable STAB move with a nifty chance of paralysis, while Return does more damage overall. Lastly, Dragon Tail is a fantastic move, (no comma) that allows Lickilicky to phaze out opposing Pokemon that try to set up on it and spread entry hazard damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximum HP and Special Defense investment allows Lickilicky to pass the largest Wishes possible and makes the most use of Lickilicky's typing and defenses. A physically defensive set is largely outclassed for several reasons: firstly, Alomomola functions better as a physically defensive Wish passer; secondly, Lickilicky is weak to one of the most prominent physical types, Fighting; and lastly, there are superior physical walls available in RU, such as Gligar, Steelix, and Cofagrigus.</p>

    <p>Lickilicky has many viable moveset options on this set. Heal Bell grants Lickilicky the opportunity to act as a cleric, curing your team of status ailments. Disable is an interesting option that received a huge boost in BW; it now functions over a longer period of time, meaning that Lickilicky can lock the opponent out of using a critical move. Knock Off cripples nearly every Pokemon, ridding Eviolite users of their magnified defenses, Leftovers users of their recovery, and can neuter offensive Pokemon of by removing their Life Orb or Choice item. Seismic Toss is usable, although it neutralizes one of Lickilicky's main draws over Clefable, a higher Attack stat and access to Body Slam. Toxic works wonders in conjunction with Protect and Wish, but Lickilicky simply doesn't have enough reason to use it over other useful moves.</p>

    <p>Physically defensive partners, especially those that resist Fighting-type moves, are capable teammates. Gligar, Cofagrigus, and Tangrowth are all viable options and can handle the plethora of Fighting-types that can hit Lickilicky. Entry hazard support is critical for Lickilicky, as Dragon Tail's effectiveness is greatly boosted when Stealth Rock and several layers of Spikes or Toxic Spikes are up. Qwilfish has Intimidate to weaken physical assaults and can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes, while Uxie can set up Stealth Rock and KO opposing Fighting-types with Psychic. Both of these Pokemon do not have access to recovery moves outside of Rest, so Lickilicky's Wish support is greatly appreciated. If a more offensively inclined Spikes user is desirable, Scolipede has a 4x resistance to Fighting-type moves and can maim the opposition with STAB Megahorn. Ghost-type Pokemon such as Spiritomb, Misdreavus, and Rotom all pair well with Lickilicky, as they can easily handle obnoxious Fighting-type Pokemon and burn them with Will-O-Wisp, as well as block Rapid Spin from ridding for the hazards that generally come with Lickilicky. Lastly, Steelix or bulky Water-types, such as Lanturn and Slowking, (comma) make for good partners, as they can handle Klinklang and other Steel-type Pokemon who try to set up on Lickilicky.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lickilicky has an incredible movepool that many offensive powerhouses would dream of. Lickilicky has many great coverage moves, including Earthquake, Power Whip, Aqua Tail, Brick Break, Rock Slide, Hammer Arm, Zen Headbutt, Thunderpunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, and Gyro Ball on the physical side, and Surf, Focus Blast, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball on the special end. Any of these moves can be used for coverage over a particular Pokemon—for example, if Omastar is a huge threat to your team, you could use Power Whip to OHKO it after it uses Shell Smash. Lickilicky gets a variety of boosting moves, including Curse, Work Up, and Swords Dance, but is often outclassed by more offensively inclined Pokemon, such as Sceptile and Kabutops. Lickilicky has enough HP to make 101 HP Substitutes coupled with Focus Punch, but there are stronger Pokemon like Golurk, (no comma) who use such a set better. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are both interesting options, but Lickilicky can't make use of weather itself. Rest and Sleep Talk are severely outclassed by Wish, which can be passed to a teammate. Cloud Nine, (comma) is Lickilicky's Dream World ability, (comma) and would be the primary option, (no comma) if it were not illegal with several of Lickilicky's key moves, including Wish.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Fighting-types, such as Hitmonchan, Gallade, Medicham, and Hitmonlee can all devastate Lickilicky with their STAB moves, although the latter two must be wary when using Hi Jump Kick because of Protect. Taunt prevents Lickilicky from healing itself, which and can often mean a swift demise. If not using Heal Bell, Toxic and other forms of status will quickly wear down on Lickilicky. Aggron, Klinklang, and other bulky Rock- and Steel-types are not bothered by anything Lickilicky can throw at them, and can either set up on it or simply attack. Golurk can set up a Substitute and then Focus Punch away, as Dragon Tail will not break its Substitute.</p>
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    Thanks Gato, implemented.
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