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BW LC Little by Little - LC RMT (Peaked at #1)

Discussion in 'RMT Archive' started by Saijo, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. Saijo

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    Little by Little


    Introduction
    :
    Hey guys! This is my first RMT on the Smogon Forums, and I decided to pick the Little Cup tier. After the last Suspect Testing Round, I didn't know anything about the metagame, but I made a team, just to have an idea of how it looks. I started with 3 pokemons, intending to make a team based on Scraggy, then I asked Blue Star for a Staryu EV spread, and he ended up helping me build this team, which is the currently #1 team on the Little Cup Ladder, and one of my favourite teams xD.
    As I said before, Blue Star helped me a lot in building this team, with his experience at suggesting pokes, movesets and evs. Some time after, I've had conversations with Al_Alchemist, in order to improve the team. He gave me 2 suggestions, one being Eviolite Mienfoo (since I had a scarfed variant after), and I forgot the other because it didn't work so well. After a lot of efforts, I managed to reach #1, and I decided to post this RMT. I'm a bit newbie on this tier, so be patient xD. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I present you "Little by Little":
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    Overview:

    This team is based mainly on Scraggy, which is, imo, the greatest sweeper of this meta. The team's goal is to remove Scraggy's counters, weaken the foe's team enough and setup everything it needs in order for Scraggy to sweep, but it's obvious that it doesn't work 100% of the time. It's in theory, and that's why the team can play well itself using only 5 pokemons. Mienfoo and Staryu are the "wings
    " of the team, because they make a good pair, weakening and scouting the foe's team, while Bronzor and Munchlax are walls, being that Bronzor is focused on supporting and Munchlax on tanking + retaliating. Drifloon counters fighting types, and it can even sweep in case of everything else fails.

    Look the description of characters pokémon now:

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    Codex (Mienfoo) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 156 Atk / 196 Def / 156 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Fake Out
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Drain Punch
    - U-turn

    This is, often times, the pokemon I lead with. It's awesome to have a Fake and Free (Fake Out + U-turn) with access to Regenerator, it helps scouting a lot of stuff. Fighting Pokemon are also so important on this metagame, because, not only it's an EXCELLENT offensive typing, they check the always dangerous Scraggy. The EVs are a mix between its bulk and its offensive prowess, on the same way I use Drain Punch in some cases and Hi Jump Kick in others, such as when I need to do extra damage. Lileep is also a dangerous threat, and while Bronzor is my answer to it, Mienfoo is also an amazing counter for it. Almost always, I can go with Scraggy instead of Mienfoo on some pokemons to get Dragon Dances (such as Munchlax), but I prefer sending Mienfoo when it's early on the game, so I can know what is their answer against Fighting mons, thus, saving Scraggy for the late-game. Mienfoo is also one of the last pokes to die, because Regenerator keeps it healthy and so does Staryu's Rapid Spin. To complete the moveset, I could use Knock Off or Taunt Over Hi Jump Kick, but I think this is the best option. I would like to thank Al_Alchemist for the moveset, thanks dude xD



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    Sail to the Moon (Staryu) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 236 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover

    I love using Staryu in Little Cup, it's very fast and bulky at the same time. On top of that, it's an excellent spinner, since it threatens the spin blockers. Recover is brilliant, since it keeps it alive and, with Natural Cure, that's even easier. Scald and Thunderbolt has good coverage, and it helps against Frillish, Slowpoke and most water types barring Chinchou. Another important thing about it, is that it is a good counter for Hippopotas and Dwebble leads, since I can Spin their hazards and hit them with a Super Effective Scald. Speaking about that, Scald is better than Surf because that burning rate is brilliant, and a lot of dumb Mienfoos stay against it trying to beat it in 1-1. The defensive EVs give it the same defensive stats as Mienfoo (21 HP, 14 Defense), and because the defenses are even numbers, they gain an extra point. The speed is also maxed, so Staryu can work as a Bulky Sweeper, a Revenger and an Utility Pokemon. It's also pretty nice that Staryu isn't a Psychic type, such as its evolution. In my opinion, that's good, because it helps in taking hits from stuff like Gastly, as well as not being on a rock-paper-scissors game with Houndour's Pursuit / Sucker Punch, which is not good.




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    Feral (Scraggy) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 148 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SDef / 212 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Drain Punch
    - Crunch
    - Zen Headbutt
    The EVs are the best, imo. Max speed is nice and it helps in outspeeding Scarfers. I could use Shed Skin, but I think Moxie is better, because, after one kill, it causes insane damage. I use Zen Headbutt over Hi Jump Kick here because, not only they have the same accuraccy, the 20% flinch rate can work in a pinch (once, I even beat EM with that flinch xD). Zen Headbutt also beats Poison pokemon such as Croagunk and Venonat, which are becoming common. I prefer Drain Punch over HJK as well, because, with it, I can heal the damage I take after setting up on foes like Chinchou. And Drain Punch hits super effectively a lot of times, so HJK isn't that necessary.
    This is the main sweeper of the team, and probably the most threatening pokemon of the metagame as of now. With access to Dragon Dance, good attack and excellent STAB attacks, Scraggy can demolish entire teams after one Dragon Dance. The team supports it nicely, since Bronzor beats Flying pokemon and Drifloon beats Fighting pokemon. Not to mention Bronzor can even use Reflect to ease Scraggy's time on setting up.




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    Banger N' Mash (Munchlax) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 76 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 160 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Return
    - Pursuit
    - Fire Punch
    - Seed Bomb
    Munchlax is a kind of Special Wall for the team. Although it's not my first option against Gastly due to Hypnosis, it's an amazing counter for it because it totally walls itt and can use Pursuit. It also tanks hits from the likes of Staryu and Chinchou. Return is my main STAB here, and given Munchlax's high attack and its high base power, it will dent a lot. The EVs here are for the best special walling prowess, as well as a good offensive power. Drifloon is a good teammate to it, because it beats the fighters, so it allows Munchlax to open holes.


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    Morning Bell (Bronzor) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 220 HP / 20 Atk / 148 Def / 4 SAtk / 68 SDef / 48 Spd
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Toxic
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Earthquake
    While Munchlax is the special wall of the team, Bronzor gets the physical walling duties. Steel / Psychic typing + Levitate ensures 8 Resistances and 1 weakness. Bronzor is an excellent Supporter for the team, because it Toxics a lot of crap, sets Stealth Rock, beats Flying pokemon (using HP ice). Earthquake rapes Chinchou and Magnemite, as well as having excellent coverage. It's an excellent option against pokemon such as Wooper and Toxic, because they can't really touch Bronzor and hate Toxic. I don't like that Bronzor lets stuff like Ferroseed set a lot of hazard on its face, but Mienfoo threatens it and Staryu can always spin them.


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    The Gloaming (Drifloon) (M) @ Flight Gem
    Trait: Unburden
    EVs: 36 HP / 200 Atk / 28 Def / 40 SAtk / 4 SDef / 200 Spd
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Acrobatics
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Thunder Wave

    AcroFloon is an extremely awesome pokemon! It beats fighting pokemon, which Scraggy really apreciates, and, some times, it can even Sweep late game. Acrobatics hits hard when paired with STAB and Flight Jewel, and right after using it, Drifloon has its speed boosted due to Unburden. The EV spread here makes Drifloon a mixed attacker, with enough speed EVs to outspeed Scarf Elekid (yea) after the Unburden boost. I prefer Hidden Power Fire over Fighting because Acrobatics does more damage to Fighters anyways, and Bronzor / Ferroseed are hit harder by Hidden Power Fire. Shadow Ball hits Slowpoke, who's extremely hard to break through by using physical moves. Thunder Wave is the filler I was using, but I think Destiny Bond and Sucker Punch are better. I'd like to dedicate this pokemon to Raseri, because he was the creator of this thing, you're da boss xD

    Special Thanks:

    - Blue_Star, for having helped in everything, from the creation of the team to the Portuguese (our mother language). Renembering that even if Iusing the team 99% of the times and improving it even more, I still think this team is still ours, and not mine. I'm glad he helped me on this and he's a nice friend and a good player of this metagame =)

    -Deaga, for having told me that Bronzor sucks, haha, but it was cool to ask his opinion xD
    - Al_Alchemist, for having helped me a lot, especially the Mienfoo, as well as being highly pro.
    - Raseri, for having made the Acrofloon set, which is incredibly awesome.
    - Other brazilian friends, for training me every time they could, including Final Fantasy, Soto, Satomi(tx viadinho reclamão), Cursed Angel, Baratinha, Darkon, Bernis, Pedrock and others.

    and the finally a proof of the success:
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  2. Satomi

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    Nice team Sujo. Tkns of this team, I made one more better than that, haha.

    GJ dude.
  3. Sunrise

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    Nice team bro!

    I need start playing the LC metagame >.>
  4. Final Fantasy

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    Great team guy, I paid boquete for you.
  5. Saijo

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    Thanks guys!

    The final version is here. I've tested last time Destiny Bond on Drifloon and really is better.

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    Codex (Mienfoo) (M) @ Eviolite Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 156 Atk / 196 Def / 156 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Fake Out
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Drain Punch
    - U-turn


    Feral (Scraggy) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 148 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SDef / 212 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Drain Punch
    - Crunch
    - Zen Headbutt


    Sail td Moon (Staryu) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 236 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover


    The Gloaming (Drifloon) (M) @ Flight Gem
    Trait: Unburden
    EVs: 36 HP / 200 Atk / 28 Def / 40 SAtk / 4 SDef / 200 Spd
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Acrobatics
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Destiny Bond


    BangerN Mash (Munchlax) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 76 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 160 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Return
    - Pursuit
    - Fire Punch
    - Seed Bomb


    Morning Bell (Bronzor) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 220 HP / 148 Def / 24 SAtk / 68 SDef / 48 Spd
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Toxic
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Earthquake
  6. Pedrock

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    Nice team, but I would change the ability and the EVspread of Scraggy for this one:

    Scraggy (M) @ Eviolite Trait: Shed Skin
    EVs: 236 Atk / 36 SDef / 212 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    If u are using EVs at HP, and it is Moxie, it would be better with HJK


    About Mienfoo, I prefer pick just one STAB, and put Taunt/Toxic/Knock Off.

    At Drifloon, Destiny Bond is way better than TW.

    And just this, congratz for your team and the #1 at the ladder. ^^
  7. Saijo

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    In this team? i don't like xD

    but thanks for your suggestion =)
  8. DracoMalfoy

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    nice team bro,good job
  9. Raseri

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    consider trying this set over your drifloon one:

    Drifloon (M) @ Flight Gem Trait: Unburden
    EVs: 128 HP / 196 Atk / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Acrobatics
    - Destiny Bond
    - Sucker Punch
    - Hypnosis




    Hypnosis is a very fun move on drifloon, it lets you incapacitate potential counters as they switch in like magnemite or chinchou. Sucker Punch can let you beat Houndour that come into revenge you if you predict right. Other than that I love this team and love playing against it.
  10. Soto

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    fuck yeah

    Saijo rules!

    congratz, beautiful RMT xDD
  11. Blue_Star

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    Excellent. Formerly, if there was a brazilian with a good rating on the LC ladder, there was a 99% chance it was me and 1% chance it was one of my alts :/. However, I see that my job is done: brazilians are getting into LC. There is also The Kyle sitting at #7 as well. This makes me proud. Good job, Saijo :)
  12. WormGuy

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    Nice team. Good Job Saijo =)
  13. comatthew6

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    GutsOrb Taillow with Wynaut will give this team some problems, especially if the latter traps Bronzor, your only check to the former. You will then have to risk a Speed tie with Staryu without it destroying a good part of your team.

    Other than that, this is an amazing team; no wonder why you peaked #1 with it. Great job, 9.9/10
  14. Saijo

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    Raseri, i will try, its interessing =D

    and comatthew thanks for your comments, you are a amazing player too =D

    and thanks everybody xD

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