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Little Cup Dark Horse Challenge!

Discussion in 'BW LC' started by Hawkstar, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. Axisotaku

    Axisotaku

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    There we go!
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    After few bad luck that made me drop below 1950 when I still didn't have the deviation under 75 I went back up slowly but I got it back. Koffing was really fun to play with, his only downfall is the lack of reliable recovery, and a big Abra weakness (If my lileep is weakened) that I didn't have with Vullaby but all around a great Pokemon! He even lived a blizzard from Snover at around half hp with 1 hp left to KO back with sludge bomb.
  2. scorpdestroyer

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: oran utan
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Exeggcute
    Current Standing on Pokemon Showdown: 1000 (or whatever you start with)

    (are we allowed to change the set halfway through without a new alt?)
    (are we allowed to use S-ranks?)

    Exeggcute @ Oran Berry
    Trait: Harvest
    Level: 5
    EVs: 116 HP / 196 Def / 36 SAtk / 156 SDef
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Leech Seed
    - Sleep Powder
    - Protect
    - Psychic / Giga Drain
  3. JacobNinja

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: jacob_ninjaDhorse2-
    Dark Horse Pokemon:Elekid
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:1000? Fresh alt


    Set: Elekid @ Life Orb
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 36 HP / 236 SAtk / 236 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Psychic
    - Volt Switch
    - Discharge
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
  4. Good_Luck!

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    I give up on Wooper. It's fun to use and all but it has weak defenses even after Eviolite.

    The team (open)
    Wooper @ Eviolite
    Trait: Water Absorb
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Def / 156 HP / 76 Atk
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Waterfall
    - Toxic
    - Recover

    Bronzor @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    Level: 5
    EVs: 220 HP / 68 Def / 4 SAtk / 148 SDef / 12 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Flash Cannon
    - Iron Defense
    - Rest

    Cottonee @ Eviolite
    Trait: Prankster
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 196 Def / 196 SDef / 76 Spd
    Calm Nature
    - Stun Spore
    - Taunt
    - Encore
    - Giga Drain

    Larvesta @ Eviolite
    Trait: Flame Body
    Level: 5
    EVs: 76 HP / 156 Def / 236 Atk / 36 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - U-turn
    - Flare Blitz
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Morning Sun

    Riolu @ Eviolite
    Trait: Prankster
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 36 Spd / 200 Def / 200 SDef / 36 Atk
    Quiet Nature
    IVs: 30 Def / 30 SDef
    - Copycat
    - Crunch
    - Drain Punch
    - Substitute

    Tentacool @ Eviolite
    Trait: Liquid Ooze
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 HP / 196 SDef / 76 Def / 36 Spd
    Calm Nature
    - Knock Off
    - Scald
    - Rapid Spin
    - Sludge Bomb


    [Hide="What I found]Pros: I used it as a tank and it had key resistances to Chinchou lacking HP Grass, all Staryu variants and Fire-types, particularly Ponyta and Larvesta.

    Cons: GRASS-weakness, Sand Rush Meta = Every team has a Grass-type Attack. Lousy SpD meaning you have to scout for moves before sending it to Wall.

    I initially had a team with Wooper and Frillish and it was fun but my skills are very lacking and couldn't get far (even losing to a Leftovers Team D:). Then I had this team:

    Wooper and Tentacool formed a great core with its fantastic abilities. Even though they share Water-typing, they don't share Weaknesses at all (Wooper: Grass, Tentacool: Psychic, Electric, Ground). With Liquid Ooze, Tentacool was the perfect teammate as Wooper atracted Giga Drains which Tentacool could capitalize; I chose Sludge Bomb to take on those Grass-types foolish enough to stay on Tentacool. Once Grass-types were removed, Wooper really shone. As Tentacool could be slowly wore down, I ran Larvesta as my second bet against Grass and also easing Wooper's tanking abilities with WoW and Flame Body. Cottonee kept Hazards at bay and prevented setup sweepers from doing a thing so my defensive core wouldn't be overwhelmed, it also provided Stun Spore to slow down things like Misdreavus, Murkrow and Abra so my team was be able to dispatch them once the time was right. Riolu acted as a Revenge Killer and Pivot with Sub and Copycat. As Fire-types were hard pressed to appear so they could counter Cottonee before spreading burns, Tenta and Wooper were able to dispose of them, meaning that Bronzor could set up with impunity depending on what type of offense remained in the other team. Most opponents didn't reserve a sure counter to Bronzor often trying to wear it down with neutral hits (Drain Punch, HJK, Crunch, Shadow Ball) praying for a Crit that even if it showed up wasn't enough to break it.

    I got all kind of comments on my teams ranging from insulting my "fag" strategy to having a good time trying to counter it. All in all, a good experience but too reliant on hax and high prediction skills which I, unfortunatly, lack. This team also provided me with my very first 100+ turns match. It was a looong stall game.

    I can't do a Screen Save even if my life depended on it so trust me when I say ACRE 1671, Glicko2 1758+/-62 wins 30, loses 19.[/HIDE]

    The team in action: http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/lc11845024

    So... yeah, I'll get another 'mon but later.
  5. Electrolyte

    Electrolyte Fastest man alive
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    Username: Electrolyte
    Laddering Alt: ElectrolyteLCDH
    Dark Horse Pokemon:

    Ducklett @ Eviolite
    Trait: Hydration
    Level: 5
    EVs: 20 HP / 236 Spd / 244 SAtk
    Timid Nature
    - Rain Dance
    - Scald
    - Hurricane
    - Rest

    Rank: 1821
  6. Rowan

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    Yeah, I really suck at laddering, between the 2 alts I used my record is 25-8 which isn't fantastic but oh well. But I used 2 different alts so I haven't got enough battles on either of them to actually appear on the ladder. Anyway, I wanted to post about the 2 Pokemon I was using because not many people have been doing that.

    sets on my previous post btw http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4602686&postcount=12

    Mantyke: To be honest with the team I was using, Mantyke was kind of lackluster, but I don't think I was supporting it correctly. It really needs spin support because taking 25% every time it switches in does make a significant difference. However with the correct support it has a really great niche. It can easily beat stuff like Timburr or Croagunk and is the only Water type that can stand a chance against Grass types, as sleeping moves don't affect it. It's special bulk is absoulutely incredible only taking about 30% from Snover's Blizzard and 26% from Misdreavus' Shadow Ball. This really helps it switch in against lots of special attackers to beat them one on one. It also pretty much hard-counters Hippopotas which is cool. Unfortunately it's difficult to take advantage of Water Absorb as Staryu and Chinchou commonly use electric moves. In general though I think it's a really under-rated pokemon with incredible bulk that means it can take on quite a few pokemon in the tier.

    Numel: Numel worked really well, it was such a great Pokemon as long as you use it correctly. Basically once water types, Hippo and Drilbur (just pack Lileep who beats all of Numel's counters - literally all of them) are eliminated this guy can just sweep teams, setting up on so many things, including some of the most powerful Pokemon in the tier like Murkrow, Misdreavus and Timburr. Albeit, it does struggle slightly switching in to many powerful threats but can beat them one on one. Another thing to note is that it basically Hard Counters most steel types. It is the best Magnemite counter excluding Chinchou and having a steel type on the opposing team is fantastic to use as set up bait. Here's the replay that I posted in the replay thread if you haven't seen it already, which showcases Numel's ability: http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/lc11490891
  7. Chieliee

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    me raging (open)
    fuck this shit

    i was 7-0 on my alt when i got dc'd last turn when all my opponent (who was playing his first LC battle on that alt) had left was fake out/last resort// aipom and i had still missy alive so i had 100% guaranteed win

    but i dc and lose, lose like 200 fucking points

    i'm quitting this ladder run i'll tell u guys about shelmet another time

    i am fucking mad

    ok so i peaked 1881 with a dev of idk, pretty high, 140 or something

    team:

    no fighting mons omg lc stall is back omg (open)
    Shelmet @ Eviolite
    Trait: Overcoat
    Level: 5
    EVs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 236 SDef
    Bold Nature
    - Recover
    - Spikes
    - Acid Armor
    - Bug Buzz

    Hippopotas @ Eviolite
    Trait: Sand Stream
    Level: 5
    EVs: 20 Spd / 20 Atk / 100 SDef / 132 HP / 212 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Toxic
    - Whirlwind
    - Earthquake
    - Slack Off

    Lileep @ Eviolite
    Trait: Storm Drain
    Level: 5
    EVs: 228 HP / 140 Def / 140 SDef
    Bold Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Recover
    - AncientPower
    - Giga Drain

    Misdreavus @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 40 Def / 180 SDef / 240 Spd
    Calm Nature
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Taunt
    - Pain Split

    Pawniard @ Eviolite
    Trait: Defiant
    Level: 5
    EVs: 156 Atk / 36 Def / 116 SDef / 196 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Iron Head
    - Sucker Punch
    - Brick Break

    Staryu @ Eviolite
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 240 Spd / 200 SAtk
    Timid Nature
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Hydro Pump
    - Thunderbolt



    why shelmet is a boss (open)
    Shelmet: Is a fucking boss. It counters pretty much all scraggy (except those who use head smash....) and same goes for timburr. Battle armor prevents you from getting fucked up by crits, meaning you'll always win the bulk up/dd vs acid armor war It can easily find an oppurtunity to set up spikes, and combined with a solid spinblocker spikes are actually really good. Shelmet has a shitton of physical bulk, being able to almost always live a brave bird from Eviolite Murkrow (i know this isn't a practical calc, just to show it's bulk)

    How well does shelmet beat common spinners, you ask?

    This means that with Battle Armor, you can outstall it's Hydro Pumps for eternity (well, until recover runs out) It might not beat Staryu one-on-one, but it doesn't outright lose to it either

    same thing, you can acid armor along with him to negate his boosts and slowly whittle him down with Bug Buzz

    Shelmet only really needs Rapid Spin support, and one should preferably not use it in sandstorm (unless you're ballsy and run overcoat like i did, but then you might get screwed up by hax etc etc) Shelmet really likes to see the opponent toxic'd when all it's doing is sitting on it's lazy bum and spamming recover etc etc.

    ok so pls why the fuck is this thing #91 in usage

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    edit: Doing a new ladder run with Shelmet (hippo-> wish/protect/heal bell/dragon tail lickitung, overcoat -> battle armor) on the Alt Swashbuckled. Current Rating is 1752 (rating glitch made me think it was higher)

    edit:
    NOPE, CHUCK SHELMET: http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/lc12516691

    IN SHELMET WE HAVE FAITH
  8. Hawkstar

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    Ok, so I'm a little late. Congratulations to iss and Axisotaku for reaching the Bronze rank this time around!

    We have some new usage statistics for March, so let's take a look at what's usable this month:

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    | Rank | Pokemon | Usage % | Raw | % | Real | % |
    + ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- +
    | 1 | Misdreavus | 37.02160% | 10639 | 30.302% | 8877 | 30.399% |
    | 2 | Murkrow | 35.42243% | 10052 | 28.630% | 8205 | 28.098% |
    | 3 | Mienfoo | 31.99234% | 9869 | 28.109% | 8598 | 29.444% |
    | 4 | Drilbur | 26.24344% | 7754 | 22.085% | 5883 | 20.146% |
    | 5 | Abra | 22.33702% | 7923 | 22.566% | 6292 | 21.547% |
    | 6 | Chinchou | 22.24432% | 6934 | 19.749% | 5811 | 19.900% |
    | 7 | Scraggy | 19.18702% | 6152 | 17.522% | 5085 | 17.413% |
    | 8 | Hippopotas | 19.14587% | 5744 | 16.360% | 5433 | 18.605% |
    | 9 | Snover | 17.50069% | 4876 | 13.888% | 3933 | 13.468% |
    | 10 | Lileep | 15.31710% | 4498 | 12.811% | 3655 | 12.516% |
    | 11 | Magnemite | 15.03227% | 4551 | 12.962% | 3755 | 12.859% |
    | 12 | Staryu | 14.68164% | 4502 | 12.823% | 3598 | 12.321% |
    | 13 | Ferroseed | 14.33254% | 4793 | 13.651% | 4229 | 14.482% |
    | 14 | Bronzor | 14.26632% | 4653 | 13.253% | 4038 | 13.828% |
    | 15 | Timburr | 11.67303% | 3543 | 10.091% | 2944 | 10.082% |
    | 16 | Porygon | 8.93581% | 2943 | 8.382% | 2364 | 8.095% |
    | 17 | Dwebble | 8.31463% | 2717 | 7.739% | 2440 | 8.356% |
    | 18 | Croagunk | 8.21837% | 2784 | 7.929% | 2390 | 8.185% |
    | 19 | Frillish | 7.04671% | 2277 | 6.485% | 1856 | 6.356% |
    | 20 | Clamperl | 6.93913% | 2462 | 7.012% | 2047 | 7.010% |
    | 21 | Riolu | 6.84608% | 2408 | 6.858% | 2016 | 6.904% |
    | 22 | Gastly | 6.58433% | 2741 | 7.807% | 2313 | 7.921% |
    | 23 | Ponyta | 6.56062% | 2470 | 7.035% | 2024 | 6.931% |
    | 24 | Pawniard | 6.15933% | 2021 | 5.756% | 1645 | 5.633% |
    | 25 | Shellder | 6.07844% | 2079 | 5.921% | 1658 | 5.678% |
    | 26 | Houndour | 6.06934% | 2127 | 6.058% | 1670 | 5.719% |
    | 27 | Diglett | 5.83584% | 2035 | 5.796% | 1641 | 5.620% |
    | 28 | Drifloon | 5.82100% | 2132 | 6.072% | 1781 | 6.099% |
    | 29 | Tirtouga | 5.75082% | 1906 | 5.429% | 1535 | 5.257% |
    | 30 | Slowpoke | 5.72079% | 1822 | 5.189% | 1408 | 4.822% |
    | 31 | Axew | 5.53511% | 2231 | 6.354% | 1737 | 5.948% |
    | 32 | Cranidos | 5.15778% | 2023 | 5.762% | 1605 | 5.496% |
    | 33 | Foongus | 4.97649% | 1534 | 4.369% | 1301 | 4.455% |
    | 34 | Larvesta | 4.93303% | 1705 | 4.856% | 1421 | 4.866% |
    | 35 | Munchlax | 4.66268% | 1636 | 4.660% | 1320 | 4.520% |
    | 36 | Koffing | 4.43209% | 1590 | 4.529% | 1351 | 4.626% |
    | 37 | Aipom | 4.17071% | 2101 | 5.984% | 1918 | 6.568% |
    | 38 | Archen | 4.03655% | 1858 | 5.292% | 1586 | 5.431% |
    | 39 | Machop | 3.86739% | 1352 | 3.851% | 1148 | 3.931% |
    | 40 | Tentacool | 3.75000% | 1265 | 3.603% | 1063 | 3.640% |
    | 41 | Sandshrew | 3.68970% | 1201 | 3.421% | 898 | 3.075% |
    | 42 | Shroomish | 3.67660% | 1265 | 3.603% | 1040 | 3.561% |
    | 43 | Cottonee | 3.65601% | 1417 | 4.036% | 1201 | 4.113% |
    | 44 | Taillow | 3.26744% | 1219 | 3.472% | 963 | 3.298% |
    | 45 | Elekid | 3.09605% | 1412 | 4.022% | 1207 | 4.133% |
    | 46 | Meowth | 2.90528% | 1042 | 2.968% | 943 | 3.229% |
    | 47 | Dratini | 2.76083% | 1166 | 3.321% | 947 | 3.243% |
    | 48 | Cacnea | 2.65615% | 1045 | 2.976% | 865 | 2.962% |
    | 49 | Onix | 2.64140% | 1323 | 3.768% | 1171 | 4.010% |
    | 50 | Darumaka | 2.56439% | 956 | 2.723% | 793 | 2.716% |
    | 51 | Zorua | 2.53118% | 1083 | 3.085% | 551 | 1.887% |
    | 52 | Purrloin | 2.47857% | 859 | 2.447% | 748 | 2.562% |
    | 53 | Aron | 2.44793% | 1215 | 3.461% | 999 | 3.421% |
    | 54 | Omanyte | 2.36411% | 841 | 2.395% | 670 | 2.294% |
    | 55 | Anorith | 2.29307% | 1050 | 2.991% | 900 | 3.082% |
    | 56 | Lickitung | 2.25398% | 1140 | 3.247% | 949 | 3.250% |
    | 57 | Doduo | 2.11674% | 861 | 2.452% | 704 | 2.411% |
    | 58 | Vullaby | 2.10906% | 701 | 1.997% | 589 | 2.017% |
    | 59 | Baltoy | 2.08217% | 860 | 2.449% | 753 | 2.579% |
    | 60 | Zigzagoon | 2.06656% | 849 | 2.418% | 687 | 2.353% |
    | 61 | Natu | 2.01523% | 733 | 2.088% | 593 | 2.031% |
    | 62 | Bulbasaur | 1.98705% | 994 | 2.831% | 872 | 2.986% |
    | 63 | Duskull | 1.96788% | 963 | 2.743% | 848 | 2.904% |
    | 64 | Stunky | 1.96624% | 690 | 1.965% | 584 | 2.000% |
    | 65 | Deino | 1.87190% | 800 | 2.279% | 655 | 2.243% |
    | 66 | Mantyke | 1.82457% | 748 | 2.130% | 633 | 2.168% |
    | 67 | Pineco | 1.76431% | 774 | 2.205% | 683 | 2.339% |
    | 68 | Shelmet | 1.76378% | 561 | 1.598% | 456 | 1.562% |
    | 69 | Exeggcute | 1.75890% | 738 | 2.102% | 605 | 2.072% |
    | 70 | Bagon | 1.71647% | 899 | 2.561% | 740 | 2.534% |
    | 71 | Numel | 1.69286% | 598 | 1.703% | 475 | 1.627% |
    | 72 | Joltik | 1.62597% | 692 | 1.971% | 606 | 2.075% |
    | 73 | Golett | 1.61573% | 643 | 1.831% | 564 | 1.931% |
    | 74 | Cubone | 1.57269% | 865 | 2.464% | 729 | 2.496% |
    | 75 | Chimchar | 1.55478% | 622 | 1.772% | 569 | 1.949% |
    | 76 | Growlithe | 1.52905% | 721 | 2.054% | 595 | 2.038% |
    | 77 | Wynaut | 1.52028% | 582 | 1.658% | 486 | 1.664% |
    | 78 | Sandile | 1.46160% | 533 | 1.518% | 433 | 1.483% |
    | 79 | Eevee | 1.42709% | 748 | 2.130% | 627 | 2.147% |
    | 80 | Magby | 1.36932% | 546 | 1.555% | 435 | 1.490% |
    | 81 | Buizel | 1.32131% | 747 | 2.128% | 641 | 2.195% |
    | 82 | Voltorb | 1.24997% | 559 | 1.592% | 496 | 1.699% |
    | 83 | Mankey | 1.20892% | 451 | 1.285% | 374 | 1.281% |
    | 84 | Gible | 1.20244% | 608 | 1.732% | 495 | 1.695% |
    | 85 | Nosepass | 1.16937% | 480 | 1.367% | 410 | 1.404% |
    | 86 | Charmander | 1.15510% | 718 | 2.045% | 591 | 2.024% |
    | 87 | Wailmer | 1.13535% | 620 | 1.766% | 541 | 1.853% |
    | 88 | Squirtle | 1.06599% | 490 | 1.396% | 427 | 1.462% |
    | 89 | Deerling | 1.05878% | 542 | 1.544% | 456 | 1.562% |
    | 90 | Totodile | 0.98403% | 422 | 1.202% | 357 | 1.223% |
    | 91 | Teddiursa | 0.95291% | 464 | 1.322% | 380 | 1.301% |
    | 92 | Corphish | 0.94472% | 489 | 1.393% | 406 | 1.390% |
    | 93 | Wooper | 0.91907% | 357 | 1.017% | 308 | 1.055% |
    | 94 | Minccino | 0.85610% | 453 | 1.290% | 371 | 1.270% |
    | 95 | Kabuto | 0.81995% | 371 | 1.057% | 323 | 1.106% |
    | 96 | Buneary | 0.81397% | 486 | 1.384% | 457 | 1.565% |
    | 97 | Woobat | 0.80382% | 361 | 1.028% | 304 | 1.041% |
    | 98 | Grimer | 0.78683% | 301 | 0.857% | 247 | 0.846% |
    | 99 | Blitzle | 0.76329% | 378 | 1.077% | 301 | 1.031% |
    | 100 | Swinub | 0.70295% | 260 | 0.741% | 203 | 0.695% |
    | 101 | Krabby | 0.69495% | 372 | 1.060% | 314 | 1.075% |
    | 102 | Cyndaquil | 0.68323% | 415 | 1.182% | 334 | 1.144% |
    | 103 | Beldum | 0.67146% | 381 | 1.085% | 330 | 1.130% |
    | 104 | Ducklett | 0.65849% | 279 | 0.795% | 247 | 0.846% |
    | 105 | Litwick | 0.65123% | 388 | 1.105% | 328 | 1.123% |
    | 106 | Poliwag | 0.62963% | 234 | 0.666% | 196 | 0.671% |
    | 107 | Bellsprout | 0.62115% | 258 | 0.735% | 223 | 0.764% |
    | 108 | Paras | 0.61374% | 346 | 0.985% | 287 | 0.983% |
    | 109 | Trapinch | 0.60444% | 291 | 0.829% | 236 | 0.808% |
    | 110 | Solosis | 0.59647% | 332 | 0.946% | 271 | 0.928% |
    | 111 | Shieldon | 0.58458% | 340 | 0.968% | 305 | 1.044% |
    | 112 | Psyduck | 0.57968% | 200 | 0.570% | 165 | 0.565% |
    | 113 | Smoochum | 0.56874% | 235 | 0.669% | 186 | 0.637% |
    | 114 | Geodude | 0.55283% | 271 | 0.772% | 242 | 0.829% |
    | 115 | Azurill | 0.55185% | 322 | 0.917% | 269 | 0.921% |
    | 116 | Wingull | 0.54737% | 217 | 0.618% | 183 | 0.627% |
    | 117 | Ekans | 0.54049% | 252 | 0.718% | 216 | 0.740% |
    | 118 | Larvitar | 0.52083% | 298 | 0.849% | 241 | 0.825% |
    | 119 | Seel | 0.49821% | 191 | 0.544% | 161 | 0.551% |
    | 120 | Oddish | 0.48966% | 187 | 0.533% | 162 | 0.555% |
    | 121 | Skitty | 0.48775% | 232 | 0.661% | 203 | 0.695% |
    | 122 | Electrike | 0.47064% | 263 | 0.749% | 224 | 0.767% |
    | 123 | Yamask | 0.45871% | 166 | 0.473% | 140 | 0.479% |
    | 124 | Chikorita | 0.43848% | 314 | 0.894% | 265 | 0.907% |
    | 125 | Horsea | 0.42971% | 196 | 0.558% | 163 | 0.558% |
    | 126 | Drowzee | 0.42443% | 252 | 0.718% | 206 | 0.705% |
    | 127 | Treecko | 0.42337% | 311 | 0.886% | 284 | 0.973% |
    | 128 | Rufflet | 0.42021% | 171 | 0.487% | 146 | 0.500% |
    | 129 | Mime Jr. | 0.41407% | 233 | 0.664% | 171 | 0.586% |
    | 130 | Barboach | 0.40573% | 279 | 0.795% | 244 | 0.836% |
    | 131 | Zubat | 0.40417% | 203 | 0.578% | 180 | 0.616% |
    | 132 | Elgyem | 0.40139% | 205 | 0.584% | 167 | 0.572% |
    | 133 | Bidoof | 0.39823% | 273 | 0.778% | 235 | 0.805% |
    | 134 | Remoraid | 0.39147% | 163 | 0.464% | 149 | 0.510% |
    | 135 | Makuhita | 0.35783% | 211 | 0.601% | 171 | 0.586% |
    | 136 | Happiny | 0.33682% | 190 | 0.541% | 153 | 0.524% |
    | 137 | Rattata | 0.33217% | 199 | 0.567% | 162 | 0.555% |
    | 138 | Snivy | 0.33115% | 241 | 0.686% | 203 | 0.695% |
    | 139 | Glameow | 0.31081% | 140 | 0.399% | 114 | 0.390% |
    | 140 | Turtwig | 0.30930% | 196 | 0.558% | 174 | 0.596% |
    | 141 | Venonat | 0.30779% | 133 | 0.379% | 116 | 0.397% |
    | 142 | Phanpy | 0.30770% | 153 | 0.436% | 136 | 0.466% |
    | 143 | Pichu | 0.30514% | 246 | 0.701% | 210 | 0.719% |
    | 144 | Tyrogue | 0.29733% | 155 | 0.441% | 134 | 0.459% |
    | 145 | Goldeen | 0.28952% | 117 | 0.333% | 101 | 0.346% |
    | 146 | Trubbish | 0.26630% | 188 | 0.535% | 168 | 0.575% |
    | 147 | Skorupi | 0.26390% | 146 | 0.416% | 125 | 0.428% |
    | 148 | Rhyhorn | 0.26356% | 162 | 0.461% | 141 | 0.483% |
    | 149 | Bonsly | 0.26328% | 138 | 0.393% | 125 | 0.428% |
    | 150 | Tepig | 0.26170% | 164 | 0.467% | 131 | 0.449% |
    | 151 | Cubchoo | 0.25995% | 175 | 0.498% | 143 | 0.490% |
    | 152 | Mudkip | 0.25527% | 145 | 0.413% | 125 | 0.428% |
    | 153 | Roggenrola | 0.24748% | 104 | 0.296% | 80 | 0.274% |
    | 154 | Spheal | 0.24405% | 145 | 0.413% | 117 | 0.401% |
    | 155 | Cleffa | 0.23635% | 143 | 0.407% | 119 | 0.408% |
    | 156 | Lotad | 0.22948% | 180 | 0.513% | 154 | 0.527% |
    | 157 | Vanillite | 0.22385% | 120 | 0.342% | 95 | 0.325% |
    | 158 | Togepi | 0.21490% | 107 | 0.305% | 86 | 0.295% |
    | 159 | Petilil | 0.20816% | 95 | 0.271% | 85 | 0.291% |
    | 160 | Pansage | 0.20480% | 96 | 0.273% | 71 | 0.243% |
    | 161 | Budew | 0.19572% | 120 | 0.342% | 104 | 0.356% |
    | 162 | Torchic | 0.19319% | 150 | 0.427% | 130 | 0.445% |
    | 163 | Ralts | 0.18229% | 91 | 0.259% | 66 | 0.226% |
    | 164 | Munna | 0.17445% | 90 | 0.256% | 78 | 0.267% |
    | 165 | Oshawott | 0.16816% | 128 | 0.365% | 107 | 0.366% |
    | 166 | Karrablast | 0.15886% | 74 | 0.211% | 62 | 0.212% |
    | 167 | Shuppet | 0.15149% | 71 | 0.202% | 66 | 0.226% |
    | 168 | Hoppip | 0.14664% | 101 | 0.288% | 93 | 0.318% |
    | 169 | Cherubi | 0.13914% | 97 | 0.276% | 80 | 0.274% |
    | 170 | Shellos | 0.13712% | 73 | 0.208% | 58 | 0.199% |
    | 171 | Shinx | 0.13155% | 108 | 0.308% | 93 | 0.318% |
    | 172 | Slugma | 0.12837% | 77 | 0.219% | 66 | 0.226% |
    | 173 | Piplup | 0.12754% | 82 | 0.234% | 74 | 0.253% |
    | 174 | Pansear | 0.12673% | 78 | 0.222% | 59 | 0.202% |
    | 175 | NidoranM | 0.12578% | 75 | 0.214% | 60 | 0.205% |
    | 176 | Panpour | 0.12171% | 86 | 0.245% | 69 | 0.236% |
    | 177 | Venipede | 0.11041% | 56 | 0.159% | 54 | 0.185% |
    | 178 | Magikarp | 0.10532% | 81 | 0.231% | 68 | 0.233% |
    | 179 | Sewaddle | 0.09697% | 91 | 0.259% | 75 | 0.257% |
    | 180 | Mareep | 0.09413% | 66 | 0.188% | 55 | 0.188% |
    | 181 | Surskit | 0.09243% | 70 | 0.199% | 66 | 0.226% |
    | 182 | Pidgey | 0.08498% | 79 | 0.225% | 71 | 0.243% |
    | 183 | Sunkern | 0.08373% | 54 | 0.154% | 43 | 0.147% |
    | 184 | Finneon | 0.08326% | 56 | 0.159% | 50 | 0.171% |
    | 185 | Ledyba | 0.08324% | 47 | 0.134% | 44 | 0.151% |
    | 186 | Starly | 0.08111% | 75 | 0.214% | 63 | 0.216% |
    | 187 | Snorunt | 0.07545% | 72 | 0.205% | 62 | 0.212% |
    | 188 | Spoink | 0.07264% | 53 | 0.151% | 44 | 0.151% |
    | 189 | Lillipup | 0.06331% | 39 | 0.111% | 36 | 0.123% |
    | 190 | Poochyena | 0.06012% | 38 | 0.108% | 29 | 0.099% |
    | 191 | Swablu | 0.05808% | 57 | 0.162% | 47 | 0.161% |
    | 192 | Tympole | 0.05686% | 32 | 0.091% | 27 | 0.092% |
    | 193 | Chingling | 0.05401% | 36 | 0.103% | 31 | 0.106% |
    | 194 | Igglybuff | 0.05169% | 65 | 0.185% | 59 | 0.202% |
    | 195 | Snubbull | 0.04768% | 36 | 0.103% | 33 | 0.113% |
    | 196 | Spearow | 0.04493% | 29 | 0.083% | 24 | 0.082% |
    | 197 | Feebas | 0.04463% | 32 | 0.091% | 30 | 0.103% |
    | 198 | Sentret | 0.04017% | 32 | 0.091% | 27 | 0.092% |
    | 199 | Pidove | 0.03781% | 44 | 0.125% | 38 | 0.130% |
    | 200 | Nincada | 0.03779% | 42 | 0.120% | 34 | 0.116% |
    | 201 | Gothita | 0.03708% | 25 | 0.071% | 25 | 0.086% |
    | 202 | Caterpie | 0.03578% | 31 | 0.088% | 26 | 0.089% |
    | 203 | Combee | 0.03558% | 24 | 0.068% | 21 | 0.072% |
    | 204 | Hoothoot | 0.03223% | 21 | 0.060% | 20 | 0.068% |
    | 205 | Spinarak | 0.03092% | 23 | 0.066% | 19 | 0.065% |
    | 206 | Burmy | 0.03080% | 16 | 0.046% | 12 | 0.041% |
    | 207 | Patrat | 0.02338% | 15 | 0.043% | 12 | 0.041% |
    | 208 | Whismur | 0.02337% | 13 | 0.037% | 11 | 0.038% |
    | 209 | Gulpin | 0.02180% | 43 | 0.122% | 37 | 0.127% |
    | 210 | Weedle | 0.02174% | 17 | 0.048% | 15 | 0.051% |
    | 211 | Seedot | 0.02031% | 38 | 0.108% | 33 | 0.113% |
    | 212 | Tynamo | 0.01831% | 17 | 0.048% | 14 | 0.048% |
    | 213 | Klink | 0.01768% | 11 | 0.031% | 10 | 0.034% |
    | 214 | Wurmple | 0.01707% | 10 | 0.028% | 7 | 0.024% |
    | 215 | NidoranF | 0.01501% | 16 | 0.046% | 13 | 0.045% |
    | 216 | Slakoth | 0.01232% | 14 | 0.040% | 13 | 0.045% |
    | 217 | Kricketot | 0.00813% | 6 | 0.017% | 6 | 0.021% |
    + ---- + ------------------ + ------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- +


    Remember that Pokemon in the top 50 are disallowed, along with Zigzagoon and Koffing, which were taken ito the Hall of Fame last round. Happy laddering!
  9. thesynchrohero

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    Pokemon Showdown ALT : LKDLusterLKD
    Dark Horse : Illusion Fox
    Current Ladder : Haven't got on ATM, he adding off for one now
  10. Chieliee

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    glad to see shelmet rise (a little)


    we all know it's the best dark horse mon so why don't we stop this thing now????

    late april fools OMG LOL
  11. TailsTheeFox

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Secretly A Buizel
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Buizel, Shinx, Combee
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000

    Buizel @ Choice Band
    Trait: Water Veil
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 SpD / 236 Atk / 236 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Waterfall
    - Aqua Jet
    - Me First
    - Brick Break
    This thing is great, I use it a lot already and it's a bit of a underrated threat.

    Combee @ Eviolite
    Trait: Guts
    Level: 5
    EVs: 116 Def / 196 SpA / 196 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Swift
    - Ominous Wind
    - Air Cutter
    - Tailwind
    Ha, this thing outspeeds Mienfoo and only fears the rare Stone Edge!

    Shinx @ Eviolite
    Trait: Intimidate
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 Def / 236 Atk / 236 SpD
    Jolly Nature
    - Roar
    - Fire Fang
    - Ice Fang
    - Wild Charge
    Better Growlithe has better typing.
  12. Good_Luck!

    Good_Luck!

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    Giving this a new try:

    Pokemon Showdown! Username: KCLDG
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Spoink
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Fresh Alt

    Spoink @ Eviolite
    Trait: Thick Fat
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 200 SAtk / 40 SDef / 200 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Shadow Ball
    - Thunder Wave

    I have tried Spoink earlier and it did okay, hopefully this time will be better :D
  13. dcae

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    I'm currently laddering with Bagon:

    Username: GalvatronDarkHorse
    Dark Horse: Bagon
    Current Standing: 1854, but high deviation

    [pimg]371[/pimg]

    Bagon @Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Spd / 236 Atk / 36 SDef
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage
    - Fire Fang
    - Rock Slide

    It has been very nice since I began using it. I lost a couple battles to hax, and had to face KingofHell twice, beating him once but losing the second time.
  14. Nebuchadnezzar

    Nebuchadnezzar

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    Dcae
    | 31 | Axew | 5.53511% | 2231 | 6.354% | 1737 | 5.948% |

    Dark Horse mons must no be in the top 50 used...
  15. dcae

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    Crap who trolled me and told me Axew could be used for Dark Horse >.< Ugh. I'm going to switch back to Bagon, sorry.
  16. -Sparkbeat-

    -Sparkbeat-

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Small Wings
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Natu
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1768

    Natu @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Magic Bounce
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 200 SAtk / 200 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Psychic
    - U-turn
    - Heat Wave
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
  17. thesynchrohero

    thesynchrohero

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    Starting this.
    Username : Cold HeartedSnivy (After the maker of one of my favorite amv's.)
    Dark Horse : Its actually a dark fox but whatever.
    Ladder : 1000

    Will post set when I start.

    Also, can anyone guess my pokemon ?
  18. iss

    iss happily ever after
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Fnatic xPeke
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Purrloin
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000

    Purrloin @ Oran Berry
    Trait: Prankster
    Level: 5
    EVs: 28 HP / 140 Def / 60 SDef / 228 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Swagger
    - Thunder Wave
    - Substitute
    - Taunt

    what an asshole
  19. blarajan

    blarajan holla ladies #£14000 #bling #sparkle #bitchesonmydick
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    iss i will legitimately ban you if you go through with that
  20. Electrolyte

    Electrolyte Fastest man alive
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    ^ yes pls

    Pokemon Showdown! Username: ElectrolyteLCDH2
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Anorith
    Current Ladder Standing: 1724


    Anorith @ Eviolite
    236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe / Jolly
    Stealth Rock / Rapid Spin / Rock Blast / Brick Break
  21. Icicle Fissh

    Icicle Fissh

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: (starting again) magic penny
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Corphish
    Current Ladder Standing: 1007

    [​IMG]

    actually the cutest thing in the world.

    Corphish @ Eviolite
    12 HP / 196 Atk / 240 Spe / Jolly
    Dragon Dance / Waterfall / Superpower / Return

    because phish > fissh

    EDIT: okay, I have started over twice now, my internet connection is just... not behaving, every time I build up any kind of run it destroys me >.<
    But yeah, Corphish is kinda meh, it's not too hard to set up, because of it's pretty good psychical bulk with Eviolite, but taking a hit when setting up is unavoidable sometimes, because it's not a big switch forcer. Once you've taken a hit, it's easily picked off by scarfers and priority. It does have very nice power, though, with Adaptability it's STAB Waterfall hits very hard, it's okay against Sand, but most Sand teams carry Lileep, a +1 Superpower doing ~65%. It's quite easy to stop if you are prepared for it, and most teams are, without even knowing it.

    Edit2: Fickle me has now decided to use a much cooler crab: krabby. and mantyke, cos it's almost a fish :) (I realised I was using mantyke on my team without registering it beforehand, but superwii/the unlucky one pointed out to me that it was a dh, does it still count? ^.^)
    Alt: trash my soul
  22. Rowan

    Rowan not a professor
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    Lickitung is available, I'll go for that. Lickitung+Shelmet. Gonna break silver rank ;)

    will post other details soon
  23. Nebuchadnezzar

    Nebuchadnezzar

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    I'm going to use Magby. I'll post a set once I do some testing.

    Edit: Scratch that. I'm gonna use Zorua. I need a little fun.
  24. (makeup)

    (makeup) kevin
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: horsemander
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Exeggcute
    Current Ladder Standing: 1347

    Exeggcute @ Oran Berry
    Trait: Harvest
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 36 Def / 196 SAtk / 196 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Sleep Powder
    - Psychic
    - Leaf Storm
    - Substitute
  25. JacobNinja

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    Oops, broke 1800 before I remembered to register
    Pokemon Showdown! Username:Jacob_Ninja5626
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Anorith
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007?


    anorith (Anorith) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
    - Rock Polish
    - Rock Blast
    - X-Scissor
    - Brick Break

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