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Little Cup Dark Horse Challenge!

Discussion in 'BW LC' started by Hawkstar, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. The Unlucky one

    The Unlucky one

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Omanight
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Omanyte
    Current Ladder Standing: 2017 92 2134 ± 83

    Omanyte @ Eviolite
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Level: 5
    EVs: 68 Def / 200 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
    - Shell Smash
    - AncientPower
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Hydro Pump

    The Team (open)


    Omanyte @ Eviolite
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Level: 5
    EVs: 68 Def / 200 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
    - Shell Smash
    - AncientPower
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Hydro Pump

    Drilbur @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sand Rush
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 212 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Shadow Claw
    - Rock Slide
    - Swords Dance

    Hippopotas @ Eviolite
    Trait: Sand Stream
    Level: 5
    EVs: 132 HP / 20 Atk / 212 Def / 100 SDef / 20 Spd
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off
    - Whirlwind

    Misdreavus @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    Level: 5
    EVs: 240 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Nasty Plot
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Croagunk @ Eviolite
    Trait: Dry Skin
    Level: 5
    EVs: 212 HP / 28 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SDef / 36 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Bulk Up
    - Drain Punch
    - Payback
    - Sucker Punch

    Pawniard @ Eviolite
    Trait: Defiant
    Level: 5
    EVs: 156 Atk / 36 Def / 116 SDef / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Brick Break
    - Iron Head
    - Sucker Punch
    - Swords Dance



    I'm in the hall of fame (open)
    [​IMG]

    So yeah I got rather high on the ladder with Omanyte, I peaked at 6 iirc but played like shit in my last few matches losing my last one going 37-3 in the end. So yeah time to explain my experience and such.


    So first of all you can search "Omanight" over here and see some replays of matches I have had. A lot of them are rather lolzy while some really show how well Omanyte can sweep through unprepared teams. Some of them include 6-0ing Abfloww and other stuff :)



    First off a quick explanation of the team. This team was built in collaboration with Sweep, a voice on PS. He wasn't rather familiar with LC and was wondering why Omanyte wasn't used more so I helped him build a team around it. It uses Omanyte in Sand was my first idea, as HP Fire Omanyte can hopefully lure Snover in/switch in to Blizzards as well as wreck Ferroseed and dent Porygon. With that, the core of Drilbur/Hippo/Omanyte was weak to Lileep, as well as the fact that it needed a more reliable switchin to snover while checking the metagame. Croagunk/Misdreavus/Pawniard pretty much fit tightly as partners as it pretty fills the checklist I mentioned above. BU Croagunk works EXTREMELY well with Omanyte and can setup on Timburr/Mienfoo. I encourage you to use Croagunk alongside Omanyte if you decide to use it. LO Drilbur is there to pull out a "oh shit LO SD Drilbur just OHKOed my Lileep that I switched in, Omanyte is coming for me" moment on them which surprisngly worked a decent chunk of times. Literally everything but Hippopotas on my team had a setup move, absolutely defining the concept of Sand Hyper Offense. Omanyte can really work well on cleaned mess of Hyper Offense as really powerful sweepers such as the ones I mentioned can pretty much dent everything which allows Omanyte to get that extra damage it needs to get those OHKOes and sweep.

    Omanyte is a great sweeper for a few reasons. First of all it has surprisingly good bulk on both ends to pull of a Shell Smash (especially in sand) and was invaluable to me as my team was so Hyper Offensive that Omanyte was the only thing I could resort to when it comes to bulk aside from the Hippo. It also does something amazing as being the only pokemon who can set up on Murkrow, Misdreavus, and even Mienfoo situationally all at once.Omanyte can turn SubRoost Krow (the most common set i see) into setup fodder with right prediction as Brave Bird is the only thing it has to hit you. Even with proper mindgames you can PP Stall the Sucker Punches if you are manly enough. It's far from a perfect counter to Krow though, so you should run backup checks to it (in this case, Rock Slide Drilbur/Hippo) Omanyte can also surprisngly setup on Misdreavus with the sand thanks to sand giving it enough Special bulk to shrug off HP Fighting and lure them to use it as SS fodder. Omanyte's bulk in general is what makes it so good, it can lure weaker attacks that it is 2x weak to and use them as SS fodder. A lot of people would stay in with Bulky Mienfoo or Missy and attack on omanyte when they can't kill me letting me set up SS. Omanyte's bulk is so good and can really save you so many times it's insane. It does suffer some issues vs Chinchou and Bulky Porygon (pretty much everything it can't do too much do can be weakened by my team support) and it might not OHKO everything on sight. It's biggest problem easily is Lileep. It can shrug off most hits bar Ice Beam and still live those. Lileep was a huge nuisance for Omanyte to face but a combination of softening of Drilbur/Missy and the sheer power Pawniard and Croagunk bring to the table stopped it very well. Overall Omanyte is a great mon and imo can be a staple in High-Level LC if a. People build better teams than me b. More people just start to get around using it. tbh I felt that this was too easy of a DH run because of how good it was.
  2. blarajan

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    Stunky (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Aftermath
    EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 188 SDef / 4 Spd
    Careful Nature
    - Sucker Punch
    - Pursuit
    - Fire Blast
    - Explosion

    Teddiursa (F) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Quick Feet
    EVs: 196 Atk / 116 SDef / 196 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Facade
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch
    - Protect

    Azurill (F) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Huge Power
    EVs: 116 HP / 196 Atk / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Return
    - Waterfall
    - Knock Off
    - Iron Tail

    alt: i am a swell guy
    ranking: it's new ^_^
  3. Hawkstar

    Hawkstar Unplug me from this fantasy
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    And that's it for April! The_Unlucky_one was the only one to make it into the hall of fame this time around. Now let's take a look at what's legal this month:

    Standard LC (open)
    Code:
     Total battles: 17661
     Avg. weight/team: 0.686
     + ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- + 
     | Rank | Pokemon            | Usage %   | Raw    | %       | Real   | %       | 
     + ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- + 
    [B] | 1    | Misdreavus         | 33.52481% | 9317   | 26.377% | 7811   | 26.713% | 
     | 2    | Mienfoo            | 32.28461% | 9595   | 27.164% | 8429   | 28.826% | 
     | 3    | Murkrow            | 31.84198% | 8897   | 25.188% | 7051   | 24.114% | 
     | 4    | Drilbur            | 25.99777% | 7321   | 20.726% | 5438   | 18.597% | 
     | 5    | Abra               | 22.26732% | 7985   | 22.606% | 6221   | 21.275% | 
     | 6    | Chinchou           | 21.86737% | 6535   | 18.501% | 5358   | 18.324% | 
     | 7    | Hippopotas         | 17.85289% | 5195   | 14.708% | 4899   | 16.754% | 
     | 8    | Scraggy            | 17.38669% | 5310   | 15.033% | 4259   | 14.565% | 
     | 9    | Lileep             | 17.26870% | 5035   | 14.255% | 4109   | 14.052% | 
     | 10   | Magnemite          | 15.49502% | 4555   | 12.896% | 3764   | 12.872% | 
     | 11   | Snover             | 14.29066% | 3997   | 11.316% | 3266   | 11.169% | 
     | 12   | Staryu             | 13.02387% | 4094   | 11.591% | 3239   | 11.077% | 
     | 13   | Ferroseed          | 12.41931% | 4044   | 11.449% | 3668   | 12.544% | 
     | 14   | Bronzor            | 11.86779% | 4062   | 11.500% | 3569   | 12.206% | 
     | 15   | Timburr            |  9.93820% | 2965   |  8.394% | 2395   |  8.191% | 
     | 16   | Porygon            |  9.44411% | 3221   |  9.119% | 2635   |  9.011% | 
     | 17   | Dwebble            |  9.18873% | 2977   |  8.428% | 2647   |  9.052% | 
     | 18   | Gastly             |  8.77207% | 3593   | 10.172% | 3077   | 10.523% | 
     | 19   | Riolu              |  8.32472% | 2845   |  8.054% | 2355   |  8.054% | 
     | 20   | Shellder           |  6.58191% | 2287   |  6.475% | 1914   |  6.546% | 
     | 21   | Clamperl           |  6.53634% | 2284   |  6.466% | 1830   |  6.258% | 
     | 22   | Croagunk           |  6.34928% | 2448   |  6.931% | 2061   |  7.048% | 
     | 23   | Cranidos           |  6.30590% | 2520   |  7.134% | 1970   |  6.737% | 
     | 24   | Ponyta             |  6.27955% | 2415   |  6.837% | 1949   |  6.665% | 
     | 25   | Tirtouga           |  6.26370% | 1982   |  5.611% | 1531   |  5.236% | 
     | 26   | Diglett            |  6.15030% | 2089   |  5.914% | 1674   |  5.725% | 
     | 27   | Taillow            |  6.12819% | 2016   |  5.707% | 1612   |  5.513% | 
     | 28   | Houndour           |  6.11688% | 2236   |  6.330% | 1799   |  6.152% | 
     | 29   | Foongus            |  5.73803% | 1618   |  4.581% | 1350   |  4.617% | 
     | 30   | Sandshrew          |  5.54508% | 1667   |  4.719% | 1258   |  4.302% | 
     | 31   | Axew               |  5.47645% | 2504   |  7.089% | 1979   |  6.768% | 
     | 32   | Aipom              |  5.31189% | 2535   |  7.177% | 2317   |  7.924% | 
     | 33   | Slowpoke           |  5.25716% | 1543   |  4.368% | 1253   |  4.285% | 
     | 34   | Larvesta           |  4.81302% | 1639   |  4.640% | 1335   |  4.566% | 
     | 35   | Tentacool          |  4.48527% | 1456   |  4.122% | 1290   |  4.412% | 
     | 36   | Archen             |  4.28230% | 1931   |  5.467% | 1573   |  5.379% | 
     | 37   | Pawniard           |  4.09966% | 1339   |  3.791% | 1073   |  3.670% | 
     | 38   | Frillish           |  4.08932% | 1414   |  4.003% | 1167   |  3.991% | 
     | 39   | Drifloon           |  4.00081% | 1526   |  4.320% | 1248   |  4.268% | 
     | 40   | Zorua              |  3.97232% | 1476   |  4.179% | 693    |  2.370% | 
     | 41   | Koffing            |  3.73426% | 1438   |  4.071% | 1218   |  4.165% | 
     | 42   | Lickitung          |  3.61944% | 1289   |  3.649% | 1019   |  3.485% | 
     | 43   | Cottonee           |  3.58528% | 1390   |  3.935% | 1185   |  4.053% | 
     | 44   | Machop             |  3.47868% | 1201   |  3.400% | 1054   |  3.605% | 
     | 45   | Elekid             |  3.44678% | 1677   |  4.748% | 1392   |  4.760% | 
     | 46   | Dratini            |  3.42748% | 1518   |  4.298% | 1243   |  4.251% | 
     | 47   | Munchlax           |  3.31532% | 1280   |  3.624% | 1055   |  3.608% | 
     | 48   | Duskull            |  3.26136% | 1374   |  3.890% | 1170   |  4.001% | 
     | 49   | Shroomish          |  3.11290% | 1105   |  3.128% | 888    |  3.037% | 
     | 50   | Aron               |  3.07944% | 1469   |  4.159% | 1272   |  4.350% |[/B] 
     | 51   | Anorith            |  2.97476% | 1124   |  3.182% | 931    |  3.184% | 
     | 52   | Purrloin           |  2.96502% | 932    |  2.639% | 763    |  2.609% | 
     | 53   | Natu               |  2.95020% | 941    |  2.664% | 766    |  2.620% | 
     | 54   | Onix               |  2.94992% | 1341   |  3.797% | 1199   |  4.100% | 
     | 55   | Omanyte            |  2.73521% | 898    |  2.542% | 726    |  2.483% | 
     | 56   | Exeggcute          |  2.66757% | 1133   |  3.208% | 905    |  3.095% | 
     | 57   | Darumaka           |  2.60540% | 979    |  2.772% | 795    |  2.719% | 
     | 58   | Meowth             |  2.35759% | 945    |  2.675% | 873    |  2.986% | 
     | 59   | Mantyke            |  2.33537% | 945    |  2.675% | 781    |  2.671% | 
     | 60   | Vullaby            |  2.32448% | 697    |  1.973% | 577    |  1.973% | 
     | 61   | Stunky             |  2.31585% | 785    |  2.222% | 665    |  2.274% | 
     | 62   | Eevee              |  2.31508% | 1117   |  3.162% | 925    |  3.163% | 
     | 63   | Mankey             |  2.31147% | 777    |  2.200% | 672    |  2.298% | 
     | 64   | Wynaut             |  2.06431% | 741    |  2.098% | 593    |  2.028% | 
     | 65   | Cubone             |  2.06061% | 1082   |  3.063% | 882    |  3.016% | 
     | 66   | Growlithe          |  2.04405% | 901    |  2.551% | 769    |  2.630% | 
     | 67   | Numel              |  1.97855% | 703    |  1.990% | 555    |  1.898% | 
     | 68   | Golett             |  1.91004% | 841    |  2.381% | 709    |  2.425% | 
     | 69   | Cacnea             |  1.90509% | 1040   |  2.944% | 867    |  2.965% | 
     | 70   | Pineco             |  1.83024% | 715    |  2.024% | 668    |  2.284% | 
     | 71   | Deerling           |  1.67309% | 629    |  1.781% | 518    |  1.772% | 
     | 72   | Buizel             |  1.62815% | 983    |  2.783% | 852    |  2.914% | 
     | 73   | Bagon              |  1.62025% | 930    |  2.633% | 776    |  2.654% | 
     | 74   | Wailmer            |  1.49080% | 724    |  2.050% | 618    |  2.113% | 
     | 75   | Minccino           |  1.47774% | 643    |  1.820% | 493    |  1.686% | 
     | 76   | Deino              |  1.47071% | 691    |  1.956% | 578    |  1.977% | 
     | 77   | Magby              |  1.46131% | 667    |  1.888% | 531    |  1.816% | 
     | 78   | Solosis            |  1.40410% | 596    |  1.687% | 463    |  1.583% | 
     | 79   | Nosepass           |  1.40127% | 542    |  1.534% | 445    |  1.522% | 
     | 80   | Bulbasaur          |  1.37455% | 923    |  2.613% | 803    |  2.746% | 
     | 81   | Gible              |  1.34762% | 677    |  1.917% | 564    |  1.929% | 
     | 82   | Voltorb            |  1.27547% | 616    |  1.744% | 553    |  1.891% | 
     | 83   | Zigzagoon          |  1.26649% | 534    |  1.512% | 425    |  1.453% | 
     | 84   | Cyndaquil          |  1.24077% | 695    |  1.968% | 591    |  2.021% | 
     | 85   | Corphish           |  1.22184% | 587    |  1.662% | 486    |  1.662% | 
     | 86   | Buneary            |  1.21107% | 567    |  1.605% | 513    |  1.754% | 
     | 87   | Baltoy             |  1.19527% | 659    |  1.866% | 567    |  1.939% | 
     | 88   | Krabby             |  1.18686% | 546    |  1.546% | 442    |  1.512% | 
     | 89   | Joltik             |  1.16704% | 617    |  1.747% | 528    |  1.806% | 
     | 90   | Doduo              |  1.16195% | 462    |  1.308% | 380    |  1.300% | 
     | 91   | Sandile            |  1.13238% | 410    |  1.161% | 344    |  1.176% | 
     | 92   | Charmander         |  1.07357% | 828    |  2.344% | 725    |  2.479% | 
     | 93   | Smoochum           |  0.94124% | 401    |  1.135% | 335    |  1.146% | 
     | 94   | Shelmet            |  0.93492% | 312    |  0.883% | 245    |  0.838% | 
     | 95   | Chimchar           |  0.92962% | 533    |  1.509% | 477    |  1.631% | 
     | 96   | Blitzle            |  0.91612% | 490    |  1.387% | 416    |  1.423% | 
     | 97   | Squirtle           |  0.89686% | 574    |  1.625% | 522    |  1.785% | 
     | 98   | Poliwag            |  0.88816% | 351    |  0.994% | 294    |  1.005% | 
     | 99   | Venonat            |  0.87658% | 343    |  0.971% | 314    |  1.074% | 
     | 100  | Woobat             |  0.85321% | 343    |  0.971% | 298    |  1.019% | 
     | 101  | Remoraid           |  0.84076% | 307    |  0.869% | 247    |  0.845% | 
     | 102  | Swinub             |  0.84007% | 379    |  1.073% | 326    |  1.115% | 
     | 103  | Psyduck            |  0.81797% | 302    |  0.855% | 235    |  0.804% | 
     | 104  | Wooper             |  0.79735% | 329    |  0.931% | 287    |  0.982% | 
     | 105  | Geodude            |  0.79398% | 438    |  1.240% | 378    |  1.293% | 
     | 106  | Kabuto             |  0.76833% | 294    |  0.832% | 258    |  0.882% | 
     | 107  | Barboach           |  0.76669% | 380    |  1.076% | 325    |  1.111% | 
     | 108  | Teddiursa          |  0.76036% | 347    |  0.982% | 282    |  0.964% | 
     | 109  | Electrike          |  0.74277% | 308    |  0.872% | 262    |  0.896% | 
     | 110  | Zubat              |  0.73662% | 297    |  0.841% | 247    |  0.845% | 
     | 111  | Wingull            |  0.72109% | 243    |  0.688% | 202    |  0.691% | 
     | 112  | Totodile           |  0.70022% | 446    |  1.263% | 379    |  1.296% | 
     | 113  | Litwick            |  0.64301% | 364    |  1.031% | 307    |  1.050% | 
     | 114  | Chikorita          |  0.64016% | 418    |  1.183% | 352    |  1.204% | 
     | 115  | Bidoof             |  0.61880% | 353    |  0.999% | 296    |  1.012% | 
     | 116  | Beldum             |  0.61521% | 416    |  1.178% | 356    |  1.217% | 
     | 117  | Cubchoo            |  0.60728% | 311    |  0.880% | 252    |  0.862% | 
     | 118  | Elgyem             |  0.60639% | 305    |  0.863% | 244    |  0.834% | 
     | 119  | Paras              |  0.58737% | 293    |  0.830% | 246    |  0.841% | 
     | 120  | Grimer             |  0.58708% | 277    |  0.784% | 247    |  0.845% | 
     | 121  | Ekans              |  0.58273% | 338    |  0.957% | 298    |  1.019% | 
     | 122  | Shieldon           |  0.55760% | 317    |  0.897% | 281    |  0.961% | 
     | 123  | Phanpy             |  0.54914% | 292    |  0.827% | 255    |  0.872% | 
     | 124  | Yamask             |  0.54564% | 232    |  0.657% | 197    |  0.674% | 
     | 125  | Glameow            |  0.52404% | 199    |  0.563% | 171    |  0.585% | 
     | 126  | Skorupi            |  0.51488% | 253    |  0.716% | 224    |  0.766% | 
     | 127  | Spheal             |  0.51053% | 271    |  0.767% | 206    |  0.704% | 
     | 128  | Azurill            |  0.49900% | 297    |  0.841% | 233    |  0.797% | 
     | 129  | Larvitar           |  0.49189% | 279    |  0.790% | 228    |  0.780% | 
     | 130  | Rufflet            |  0.49030% | 239    |  0.677% | 204    |  0.698% | 
     | 131  | Trubbish           |  0.47725% | 216    |  0.612% | 203    |  0.694% | 
     | 132  | Seel               |  0.46479% | 167    |  0.473% | 147    |  0.503% | 
     | 133  | Bellsprout         |  0.45270% | 255    |  0.722% | 218    |  0.746% | 
     | 134  | Happiny            |  0.45126% | 242    |  0.685% | 189    |  0.646% | 
     | 135  | Horsea             |  0.43458% | 196    |  0.555% | 165    |  0.564% | 
     | 136  | Treecko            |  0.43185% | 337    |  0.954% | 283    |  0.968% | 
     | 137  | Trapinch           |  0.39712% | 191    |  0.541% | 147    |  0.503% | 
     | 138  | Roggenrola         |  0.39559% | 158    |  0.447% | 134    |  0.458% | 
     | 139  | Rhyhorn            |  0.39471% | 187    |  0.529% | 154    |  0.527% | 
     | 140  | Pichu              |  0.38641% | 344    |  0.974% | 291    |  0.995% | 
     | 141  | Oddish             |  0.38212% | 163    |  0.461% | 141    |  0.482% | 
     | 142  | Rattata            |  0.38079% | 260    |  0.736% | 210    |  0.718% | 
     | 143  | Skitty             |  0.36994% | 154    |  0.436% | 131    |  0.448% | 
     | 144  | Bonsly             |  0.35765% | 178    |  0.504% | 150    |  0.513% | 
     | 145  | Spoink             |  0.35366% | 144    |  0.408% | 125    |  0.427% | 
     | 146  | Mudkip             |  0.31300% | 238    |  0.674% | 201    |  0.687% | 
     | 147  | Swablu             |  0.31098% | 108    |  0.306% | 67     |  0.229% | 
     | 148  | Surskit            |  0.30813% | 155    |  0.439% | 122    |  0.417% | 
     | 149  | Tyrogue            |  0.29540% | 201    |  0.569% | 184    |  0.629% | 
     | 150  | Turtwig            |  0.28626% | 203    |  0.575% | 180    |  0.616% | 
     | 151  | Drowzee            |  0.28084% | 258    |  0.730% | 224    |  0.766% | 
     | 152  | Budew              |  0.27861% | 178    |  0.504% | 157    |  0.537% | 
     | 153  | Shuppet            |  0.25242% | 136    |  0.385% | 121    |  0.414% | 
     | 154  | Oshawott           |  0.25127% | 198    |  0.561% | 174    |  0.595% | 
     | 155  | Shinx              |  0.24886% | 169    |  0.478% | 147    |  0.503% | 
     | 156  | Mime Jr.           |  0.24765% | 157    |  0.444% | 129    |  0.441% | 
     | 157  | Karrablast         |  0.22944% | 111    |  0.314% | 78     |  0.267% | 
     | 158  | Torchic            |  0.21727% | 142    |  0.402% | 117    |  0.400% | 
     | 159  | Vanillite          |  0.21473% | 162    |  0.459% | 133    |  0.455% | 
     | 160  | Piplup             |  0.20671% | 237    |  0.671% | 213    |  0.728% | 
     | 161  | Spearow            |  0.20545% | 61     |  0.173% | 52     |  0.178% | 
     | 162  | Togepi             |  0.20263% | 130    |  0.368% | 111    |  0.380% | 
     | 163  | Snivy              |  0.19888% | 189    |  0.535% | 163    |  0.557% | 
     | 164  | Shellos            |  0.19783% | 86     |  0.243% | 70     |  0.239% | 
     | 165  | Finneon            |  0.17787% | 104    |  0.294% | 91     |  0.311% | 
     | 166  | Sewaddle           |  0.17692% | 85     |  0.241% | 76     |  0.260% | 
     | 167  | Makuhita           |  0.17042% | 89     |  0.252% | 75     |  0.256% | 
     | 168  | Tepig              |  0.17024% | 111    |  0.314% | 97     |  0.332% | 
     | 169  | Goldeen            |  0.16897% | 96     |  0.272% | 85     |  0.291% | 
     | 170  | Chingling          |  0.16020% | 91     |  0.258% | 79     |  0.270% | 
     | 171  | Gulpin             |  0.15987% | 91     |  0.258% | 74     |  0.253% | 
     | 172  | NidoranM           |  0.15978% | 115    |  0.326% | 99     |  0.339% | 
     | 173  | Ducklett           |  0.15844% | 103    |  0.292% | 92     |  0.315% | 
     | 174  | Feebas             |  0.15734% | 121    |  0.343% | 108    |  0.369% | 
     | 175  | Lotad              |  0.14596% | 132    |  0.374% | 115    |  0.393% | 
     | 176  | Snorunt            |  0.13577% | 114    |  0.323% | 102    |  0.349% | 
     | 177  | Cleffa             |  0.13406% | 110    |  0.311% | 95     |  0.325% | 
     | 178  | Petilil            |  0.12867% | 90     |  0.255% | 71     |  0.243% | 
     | 179  | Munna              |  0.11868% | 95     |  0.269% | 83     |  0.284% | 
     | 180  | Magikarp           |  0.11634% | 61     |  0.173% | 56     |  0.192% | 
     | 181  | Slugma             |  0.11583% | 72     |  0.204% | 61     |  0.209% | 
     | 182  | Panpour            |  0.11188% | 59     |  0.167% | 51     |  0.174% | 
     | 183  | Hoppip             |  0.09811% | 166    |  0.470% | 148    |  0.506% | 
     | 184  | Mareep             |  0.09515% | 104    |  0.294% | 93     |  0.318% | 
     | 185  | Pidgey             |  0.08675% | 96     |  0.272% | 83     |  0.284% | 
     | 186  | Lillipup           |  0.08501% | 61     |  0.173% | 53     |  0.181% | 
     | 187  | Pansage            |  0.08491% | 81     |  0.229% | 70     |  0.239% | 
     | 188  | Pansear            |  0.08444% | 69     |  0.195% | 63     |  0.215% | 
     | 189  | Ralts              |  0.07774% | 83     |  0.235% | 72     |  0.246% | 
     | 190  | Igglybuff          |  0.07717% | 59     |  0.167% | 45     |  0.154% | 
     | 191  | Cherubi            |  0.07357% | 54     |  0.153% | 50     |  0.171% | 
     | 192  | Ledyba             |  0.06996% | 40     |  0.113% | 36     |  0.123% | 
     | 193  | Starly             |  0.06648% | 49     |  0.139% | 44     |  0.150% | 
     | 194  | Combee             |  0.06029% | 51     |  0.144% | 46     |  0.157% | 
     | 195  | Spinarak           |  0.05516% | 57     |  0.161% | 52     |  0.178% | 
     | 196  | Venipede           |  0.04552% | 41     |  0.116% | 38     |  0.130% | 
     | 197  | Seedot             |  0.03896% | 40     |  0.113% | 35     |  0.120% | 
     | 198  | Caterpie           |  0.03734% | 37     |  0.105% | 33     |  0.113% | 
     | 199  | Whismur            |  0.03668% | 31     |  0.088% | 26     |  0.089% | 
     | 200  | Snubbull           |  0.03533% | 31     |  0.088% | 29     |  0.099% | 
     | 201  | Tympole            |  0.03503% | 36     |  0.102% | 31     |  0.106% | 
     | 202  | Pidove             |  0.03501% | 34     |  0.096% | 29     |  0.099% | 
     | 203  | Sunkern            |  0.03485% | 24     |  0.068% | 20     |  0.068% | 
     | 204  | Gothita            |  0.02938% | 29     |  0.082% | 24     |  0.082% | 
     | 205  | Tynamo             |  0.02872% | 20     |  0.057% | 19     |  0.065% | 
     | 206  | Nincada            |  0.02817% | 32     |  0.091% | 25     |  0.085% | 
     | 207  | Sentret            |  0.02633% | 26     |  0.074% | 20     |  0.068% | 
     | 208  | Poochyena          |  0.02257% | 16     |  0.045% | 14     |  0.048% | 
     | 209  | Hoothoot           |  0.02122% | 15     |  0.042% | 9      |  0.031% | 
     | 210  | Weedle             |  0.02071% | 35     |  0.099% | 29     |  0.099% | 
     | 211  | Patrat             |  0.01430% | 22     |  0.062% | 18     |  0.062% | 
     | 212  | Klink              |  0.01282% | 10     |  0.028% | 9      |  0.031% | 
     | 213  | Wurmple            |  0.00881% | 7      |  0.020% | 6      |  0.021% | 
     | 214  | Kricketot          |  0.00677% | 5      |  0.014% | 4      |  0.014% | 
     | 215  | NidoranF           |  0.00643% | 17     |  0.048% | 17     |  0.058% | 
     | 216  | Burmy              |  0.00508% | 6      |  0.017% | 6      |  0.021% | 
     | 217  | Slakoth            |  0.00440% | 3      |  0.008% | 3      |  0.010% | 
     + ---- + ------------------ + ------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- + 
    


    The top 50 (in bold) are all ineligible for the title of Dark Horse, along with anything already in the hall of fame, so almost everything from Anorith down is usable as your Dark Horse mon. Let's get to it!
  4. apt-get

    apt-get platinum happy
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: dubs150
    Dark Horse Pokemon:
    Wailmer, Cyndaquil
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:
    1000


    Wailmer @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Water Veil
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 76 Def / 200 SAtk / 196 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Water Spout
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Grass]

    Cyndaquil @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Blaze
    Level: 5
    EVs: 44 HP / 24 Atk / 200 SAtk / 236 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Eruption
    - Fire Blast
    - Nature Power
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
  5. The Unlucky one

    The Unlucky one

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: OhDeer
    Dark Horse Pokemon:
    Deerling
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:
    1007

    Will post set after a bit of testing with my moves and such.

    @above, DAMN. I like that
  6. mikel

    mikel frizy will carry ocn
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    good chance i'll be too bored/lazy/etc to actually ladder but i'm doing:

    old attempt (open)
    Pokemon Showdown! Username: gezondheid
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Mantyke; Mankey
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007

    Mantyke @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 Def / 196 SAtk / 36 SDef / 196 Spd
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 HP
    - Hydro Pump
    - Air Slash
    - Ice Beam
    - Rain Dance

    Mankey @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Vital Spirit
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 Atk / 196 Spd / 116 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Ice Punch
    - Punishment
    - U-turn

    lc 1808 85 1963 ± 110 (provisional) 13 3 0

    lost the three games through misplays. mantyke is pretty hard to put on a team, whereas i found mankey paired very well with mienfoo and a solid defensive core, and can surprise KO misdreavus which try to set up on foo. going to try again without mantyke i suppose.


    Pokemon Showdown! Username: auf wiedersehen
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Mankey
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007

    Mankey @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Vital Spirit
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 Atk / 196 Spd / 116 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Ice Punch
    - Punishment
    - U-turn
  7. -Sparkbeat-

    -Sparkbeat- formerly Lunatic Lies

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Heya
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Deerling and Cubone
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007

    Deerling @ Eviolite
    Trait: Sap Sipper
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 196 Def / 236 Spd / 36 SDef
    Jolly Nature
    - Agility
    - Baton Pass
    - Seed Bomb
    - Work Up

    Cubone @ Thick Club
    Trait: Rock Head
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 196 Atk / 36 SDef / 236 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Double-Edge
    - Fire Punch
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance
  8. D4RR3N

    D4RR3N

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Jessica Jung
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Teddiursa
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000


    Teddiursa (F) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Quick Feet
    EVs: 196 Atk / 116 SDef / 196 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Facade
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch
    - Protect
  9. dcae

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    Galvatron (4)
    Sandile
    1007

    Will update with sets later today after some testing. Might add more guys if it fits.
  10. Superpowerdude

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    alt: SPDnatu
    Natu
    1007(new alt)

    Mystic (Natu) @ Light Clay
    Trait: Magic Bounce
    EVs: 116 HP / 36 Atk / 76 Def / 76 SDef / 196 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    - U-turn
    - Roost
  11. macle

    macle ribbit
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: blake shieldon
    Dark Horse Pokemon: mareep, cacnea, barboach
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000


    Barboach @ Eviolite
    Trait: Oblivious
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 Spd / 212 Atk / 100 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Return
    - Waterfall

    Cacnea @ Eviolite
    Trait: Water Absorb
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Atk / 32 Def / 240 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Drain Punch
    - Seed Bomb
    - Sucker Punch
    - Swords Dance

    Mareep @ Eviolite
    Trait: Static
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 SAtk / 236 SDef / 36 Def
    Calm Nature
    - Discharge
    - Light Screen
    - Reflect
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
  12. Axisotaku

    Axisotaku

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Dark Horse Axis 6
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Natu, Vullaby
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007

    Natu @ Eviolite
    Trait: Magic Bounce
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 76 Def / 116 SAtk / 76 SDef / 196 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - U-turn
    - Psychic
    - Heat Wave
    - Roost

    Vullaby @ Eviolite
    Trait: Overcoat
    Level: 5
    EVs: 116 HP / 236 Def / 76 SDef / 36 Spd
    Impish Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - U-turn
    - Toxic
    - Roost
  13. Axisotaku

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    Alright 1951 Rating deviation 57

    This was really fun I love Vullaby hes such a good Abra counter and can tank trough so many things like its nothing. Natu made the life of many hazard users very hard by bouncing their rocks back in their face. I used a volt-turn setup of Chinchou Mienfoo Natu Vullaby, with two very hard and fast hitters: Snover and Murkrow and that gave me plenty to work around the many threats of LC, I used to have Staryu instead of Murkrow in case I lost Natu and ended up with hazards (my team did have 3 sr weaknesses) but I had problems with shell smashers and Scraggy. Natu was enough by himself to either scare away the hazards or simply bounce em back so bye bye Staryu hello Murkrow.

    All around Natu and Vullaby are very strong weapons when used correctly and I am glad I could do this Dark Horse Challenge with them.

    Peak: 1989 - 75 win 7 losses

    [​IMG]
  14. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Color Illuminates
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Psyduck & Deerling
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1007

    Deerling (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Sap Sipper
    EVs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SDef / 236 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Substitute
    - Seed Bomb
    - Frustration

    Psyduck (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Cloud Nine
    EVs: 36 HP / 236 SAtk / 236 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Disable
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
  15. Superpowerdude

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    changing my dark horse into
    Wynaut
    Alt:WhySPD
    Ladder Rank: New Alt so 1007
  16. Eol

    Eol

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    Username: Eol the Centaur
    Dark Horses: Budew & Chimchar
    Ladder Rank: 1710

    Update: Fail. Will try something else.
  17. Nozzle

    Nozzle

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    Username: Will think of something that has a nice color :)
    Dark Horse: Magby
    Ladder Rank: 666
  18. JolteonFTW

    JolteonFTW

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    User Name: FullManMode
    Dark Horse: Remoraid, Ducklett, and Eevee
    Ladder Rank: New Alt, so 1007 I guess

    Remoraid @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Hustle
    Level: 5
    EVs: 240 Atk / 236 Spd / 32 SAtk
    Lonely Nature
    - Seed Bomb
    - Waterfall
    - Flamethrower
    - Water Spout

    Ducklett @ Eviolite
    Trait: Big Pecks (lol)
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 Def / 196 SDef / 116 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Roost
    - Scald
    - FeatherDance
    - Toxic

    Eevee @ Choice Band
    Trait: Adaptability
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Quick Attack
    - Return
    - Bite
    - Yawn

    Ducklett may become a rain dance variant at some point if set switching is allowed.
  19. Good_Luck!

    Good_Luck!

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Sweetness
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Rufflet + Goldeen
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Fresh new alt.
  20. Chillarmy

    Chillarmy

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    Username: Lame Cup sucks
    Dark Horse: Vullaby, Yamask
    Ladder Rank: 1000

    Dunno if either have made it to HoF already, but lgi
  21. ABfloww

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    Nick On pokemon showdown: Dark Hawse Floww
    Dark Horse pokemon: Teddiursa and Growlithe
    Current ladder ranking: 1007? havent played yet
    sets:


    Broom (Teddiursa) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Quick Feet
    Level: 5
    EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch
    - Facade
    - Protect

    Hot Dawg (Growlithe) (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Intimidate
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 Atk / 116 SDef / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Flare Blitz
    - Wild Charge
    - Toxic
  22. -Sparkbeat-

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    Removing Cubone, only using Deerling.

    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Darkness Blooms
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Deerling
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: about 1830, got to high 1800's a few times, once lost to superpowerdude in a gg, and other ones got haxed the shit out which happens a lot whenever I get high on the ladder :/
  23. apt-get

    apt-get platinum happy
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    Actually scratch that I'm changing my dark horses
    btw lickitung isn't valid anymore, too bad I wanted three DHes :(


    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Little Buggers
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Karrablast, Shelmet
    Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Fresh Alt

    Shelmet @ Eviolite
    Trait: Overcoat
    Level: 5
    EVs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 236 SDef
    Bold Nature
    - Recover
    - Spikes
    - Acid Armor
    - Bug Buzz

    Karrablast @ Eviolite
    Trait: No Guard
    Level: 5
    EVs: 196 HP / 236 Atk / 76 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance
    - Megahorn
    - Aerial Ace

    stealan chieliee's shelmet like a baws
  24. Icicle Fissh

    Icicle Fissh

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: fissh dh2
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Krabby, Mantyke
    Current Ladder Standing: 1007

    Krabby @ Eviolite
    Trait: Shell Armor
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Agility
    - Swords Dance
    - Crabhammer
    - Return

    Exeggcute @ Oran Berry
    Trait: Harvest
    Level: 5
    EVs: 36 HP / 36 Def / 196 SAtk / 196 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Sleep Powder
    - Substitute
    - Leaf Storm
    - Psychic
  25. Superpowerdude

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    Pokémon Showdown! Usernamre: DarkSPD
    Pokémon Wynuat and uh Stunky too?
    Ladder Standing: New

    (Wynaut) @ Custap Berry
    Trait: Shadow Tag
    EVs: 76 HP / 132 Def / 212 SDef / 12 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Mirror Coat
    - Counter
    - Encore
    - Destiny Bond

    Stunky (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Aftermath
    EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 188 SDef / 4 Spd
    Careful Nature
    - Sucker Punch
    - Pursuit
    - Fire Blast
    - Explosion


    Um I am starting again I hope that's alright. I hope its cool if I am using Stunky, after all Blarajan used it last month and I am using it and Wynuat

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