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Hey everyone!
Have you ever noticed how most OMs use standard-OU rulesets and pokemon? Because of this, its hard, near impossible, to discuss how these metagames would be if they were played in a Little Cup environment. Little Cup has plenty of Pokemon who would benefit from the interesting play-styles that certain OMs provide, and it may give some players new strategies to try out. Basically, the purpose of this thread is to provide a place for discussion so you don't have to do hastily do it over chatrooms.

First off, to prevent this thread from getting out of control, there needs to be some rules.

1) Don't post anything off-topic. This is not a thread to discuss purely Little Cup. There are other threads for that.
2) Quote the posts you are responding to so not to confuse others.
3) Since this thread incorporates all OMs, make sure you specify what OM you are posting for.
4) For LC/OM metagames, both LC and the OM rules apply. So if Huge Power is banned there, it is also banned here.

5) Don't be a jerk
6) Have fun!

In case you are unaware, the standard Little Cup ruleset is as follows:
1) All Pokemon must be able to evolve
2) All Pokemon must be set to level 5
3) Sonicboom, Dragon Rage, Scyther, Sneasel, Tangela, Yanma, Swirlix, Gligar, Murkrow, and Meditite are banned.
4) All other smogon clauses are still in effect


Thanks to Monte Cristo, LC AA, LC BH and LC STABmons are programmed here: http://othermetascentral.psim.us

Little Cup-OM sets, separated by metagame

Archen @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Brave Bird
- Thousand Arrows
- Shift Gear
Created by Kit Kasai

Archen @ Eviolite / Berry Juice
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- ExtremeSpeed
- Roost / Recover
- Bolt Strike / Earthquake / Boomburst
Created by Corporal Levi

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 236 Def / 236 SpD / 236 Spe
Calm Nature
- Topsy-Turvy
- Spore
- Parting Shot
- Roost
Created by Corporal Levi

Scyther @ Eviolite / Berry Juice / Life Orb
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- ExtremeSpeed
- Roost / Recover / U-Turn
- Bolt Strike / Earthquake / U-Turn
Created by Corporal Levi

Murkrow @ Life Orb / Eviolite / Berry Juice
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Hasty / Naive Nature
- Boomburst
- V-create / Fake Out
- Knock Off
- ExtremeSpeed
Created by Corporal Levi

Trapinch @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thousand Arrows
- Copycat
- Diamond Storm
- V-create
Created by Unfixable

Spritzee @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 212 HP / 196 Def / 12 SpA / 76 SpD / 12 Spe
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power Fighting/Reflect/Light Screen/Calm Mind
- Wish/Reflect/Light Screen/Calm Mind

Swift Swim Wailmer, Magnemite, Corphish and Gale Wings Wingull
Created by Thisisafake name

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Def / 156 SpD
Bold Nature
- Spore
- Sludge Bomb
- Stun Spore
- Synthesis
Created by Corporal Levi

Archen
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 132 HP / 180 Atk / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
Created by Monte Cristo

Dwebble @ Berry Juice
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Diamond Storm
- Drain Punch / Earthquake
- X-Scissor / Earthquake

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 76 Def / 236 SpA
Modest Nature
- Spore
- Forest's Curse
- Frost Breath
- Fire Blast
Created by Corporal Levi

Porygon @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 164 HP / 120 Def / 84 SpA / 80 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Tri Attack
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Thunder Wave / Conversion-2 / Trick Room / Rain Dance / Sunny Day

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Fur Coat
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Def / 156 SpD
Bold Nature
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Spore
Created by Corporal Levi

Eevee @ White Herb
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Atk / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
Rash Nature
- Shell Smash
- Boomburst
- ExtremeSpeed
- Shadow Ball
Created by Talpr0ne

Aipom @ Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tail Slap
- Knock Off
- ExtremeSpeed
- U-turn/Fake Out/Seed Bomb/Ice Punch/Brick Break
Created by Talpr0ne

 
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Kit Kasai

Love colored magic
Archen @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Brave Bird
- Thousand Arrows
- Shift Gear

nuff said
 
I'm gonna love rain in AAA LC:

196+ SpA Choice Specs Wailmer Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 236 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax in Rain: 24-28 (72.7 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

30 speed in the rain only loses to 21 or higher scarfers. Not to mention that Munchlax is pretty much the bulkiest special wall in the tier (normal spreads are OHKO'd after rocks)
Only thing that avoids 2HKO after rocks is specially defensive Lotad. (die tentacool)


240+ SpA Choice Specs Magnemite Thunder vs. 0 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 13-16 (43.3 - 53.3%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Kill everything that Wailmer couldn't kill.


240+ SpA Life Orb Wingull Hurricane vs. 236 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 9-13 (27.2 - 39.3%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Not too shabby for a revenge killer. It outspeeds pretty much everything and deals massive damage with rain-boosted scald or priority hurricane.


196+ Atk Choice Band Corphish Crabhammer vs. 236 HP / 196+ Def Eviolite Munchlax in Rain: 22-27 (66.6 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

(I don't actually know what the best physical wall is in LC, so I just chose physically defensive munchlax.)
Basically this thing is the physical rain nuke/aqua jet spammer. Not much needs to be said really.
 

The Avalanches

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And I know I shouldn't double post, but Sticky Hold will be an excellent ability on bulky walls in AAA. Things like Spritzee and Lickitung will be nigh-unbreakable with un-Knock-Offable Eviolite.
 

chimp

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Ability Unity is pretty fun.

Pure Fighting type has it going
Prankster [Riolu]
Guts [Timburr]
Regenerator [Mienfoo]
Reckless [Mienfoo]
Thick Fat [Makuhita]
Sheer Force [Makuhita]
Defiant [Mankey]
No Guard [Machop]

Levitate [Tynamo]

Thick Fat [Munchlax]
Skill Link [Aipom]
Technician [Minccino, Meowth]

Magic Guard [Cleffa]
Intimidate [Snubbull]
Serene Grace [Togepi]

Tough Claws [Binacle]
Sturdy [Tirtouga]

Prankster [Purrloin]

Drought [Vulpix]
Flame Body [Ponyta, Larvesta]

Protean [Froakie]

Probably missed a bunch.
 

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Ability Unity is pretty fun.

Pure Fighting type has it going
Prankster [Riolu]
Guts [Timburr]
Regenerator [Mienfoo]
Reckless [Mienfoo]
Thick Fat [Makuhita]
Sheer Force [Makuhita]
Defiant [Mankey]
No Guard [Machop]

Levitate [Tynamo]

Thick Fat [Munchlax]
Skill Link [Aipom]
Technician [Minccino, Meowth]

Magic Guard [Cleffa]
Intimidate [Snubbull]
Serene Grace [Togepi]

Tough Claws [Binacle]
Sturdy [Tirtouga]

Prankster [Purrloin]

Drought [Vulpix]
Flame Body [Ponyta, Larvesta]

Protean [Froakie]

Probably missed a bunch.
Hello Gale Wings Rufflet.

Shadow Tag Abra is a fierce revenge killer too, Speed Boost Ponyta and Darumaka are deadly cleaners, I'll think of more.
 

Corporal Levi

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Foongus will dominate all the metagames

Alphability

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Fur Coat
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Def / 156 SpD
Bold Nature
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Spore
Spore is still a great move to have, but Foongus now usually beats Fletchling one-on-one with Sleep Clause activated, and acts as a nice physical wall in general due to its defensive typing and Fur Coat. Foongus still isn't particularly easy to wear down because it has access to Synthesis and Giga Drain.

Almost Any Ability

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Def / 156 SpD
Bold Nature
- Spore
- Sludge Bomb
- Stun Spore
- Synthesis
Priority status and recovery could be a big nuisance to the opponent, and it helps that Foongus has the defensive typing and bulk to utilize these traits to good effect. It's arguably better than Shroomish because it has Sludge Bomb to deal with Grass-type switch-ins, and resists Fighting-type moves while not being weak to U-Turn.

Alphabet Cup

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 124 HP / 76 Def / 236 SpA
Modest Nature
- Spore
- Forest's Curse
- Frost Breath
- Fire Blast
Offensive Foongus; Forest's Curse leaves the opponents vulnerable to Frost Breath and Fire Blast, two moves which also deter switch-ins to Spore.

I don't think this is the best metagame for Foongus :/

Balanced Hackmons

Foongus @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 236 Def / 236 SpD / 236 Spe
Calm Nature
- Topsy-Turvy
- Spore
- Parting Shot
- Roost
A Prankster support set, which Foongus can perform fairly well due to its typing and bulk. It could probably function more effectively than Bulbasaur despite its lower Speed due to its greater physical bulk.

Averagemons

Foongus @ Berry Juice
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 196 Def / 116 SpD
Bold Nature
- Spore
- Stun Spore
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
LC Averagemons would be pretty cool because Foongus already performs so well despite a BST of under 300; in Averagemons, it would be able to take advantage of a phenomenal defensive ability to an even greater extent. Eviolite is banned though :(
 
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Eevee @ White Herb
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Atk / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
Rash Nature
- Shell Smash
- Boomburst
- ExtremeSpeed
- Shadow Ball

Boomburst Sylveon(well, kinda) is pursuing us at every OM.

Aipom @ Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tail Slap
- Knock Off
- ExtremeSpeed
- U-turn/Fake Out/Seed Bomb/Ice Punch/Brick Break

With Tail Slap, Aipom has insane damage output, thanks to both high 125 base power(counting 5 hits) and LC multihit mechanics. ExtremeSpeed is a strong and reliable attack against offensive Pokémon such as Fletchling(which can't outprioritize with its own extreme speed.
196+ Atk Life Orb Aipom Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 116 HP / 236+ Def Eviolite Slowpoke: 20-25 (74 - 92.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

There are surely most other stuff, too much for covering them in a detailed post, i can make a list maybe.
 
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Would LC Ubers be allowed in LC BH? A few of us had some games yesterday and we allowed it since Ubers are allowed in BH.
 

Monte Cristo

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Archen
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 132 HP / 180 Atk / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Yeah archeops is banned but archen isn't maybe we can decide if it is. yay for loopholes. Anyways This is like Fletch except no swords dance but with overall better everything else. Spam Acro and win basically, it makes using scraggy rlly hard in this meta. You can use eviolite aerial ace or LO aerial ace but so fuckin weak. The head smash magic guard set is probably better but I'm loving this set rn.
 

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blizzardy is a BAMF for making this, and I will code it soon

Archen
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 132 HP / 180 Atk / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Yeah archeops is banned but archen isn't maybe we can decide if it is. yay for loopholes. Anyways This is like Fletch except no swords dance but with overall better everything else. Spam Acro and win basically, it makes using scraggy rlly hard in this meta. You can use eviolite aerial ace or LO aerial ace but so fuckin weak. The head smash magic guard set is probably better but I'm loving this set rn.
Thanks!
Also, yes that archen and Corporal Levi's foongus sets like scary af.
 
I know -Talent- had some cool lc bh stuff goin on also reserving this for lc bh sets.
Oh wait that's right he doesn't post because nub.

Snubbull @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Coil
- Play Rough
- Sacred Fire
- High Jump Kick

Happiny (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Skill Swap
- Milk Drink
- Parting Shot
 
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A few of us have been playing LC BH, and it's been a ton of fun. If flying spam was bad in normal LC, wait until you get ahold of Aerilate Scyther @_@


Archen @ Eviolite / Berry Juice
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- ExtremeSpeed
- Roost / Recover / Diamond Storm
- Bolt Strike / Earthquake / Diamond Storm / Boomburst

Archen is a phenomenal Pokemon in LC because of how well it checks flying-spam, and this role is just as necessary in LC BH. One thing Archen has over other flying-spam checks is that it's a flying-type itself, meaning it can actually participate in the flying-spam itself. Aerilate Fake Out + Extremespeed, when backed by an enormous 112 Attack, is a formidable revenge-killing tool, and thanks to its excellent typing, Archen can find opportunities to do other stuff as well.


Scyther @ Eviolite / Berry Juice / Life Orb
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- ExtremeSpeed
- Roost / Recover / U-Turn
- Bolt Strike / Earthquake / U-Turn

Although Scyther lacks Archen's typing, it is significantly statistically bulkier (bulkier than Spritzee or Porygon) and gets STAB U-Turn while being faster and just as powerful. Double weakness to Stealth Rock sort of sucks, though


Murkrow @ Life Orb / Eviolite / Berry Juice
Ability: Aerilate
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Hasty / Naive Nature
- Boomburst
- V-create / Fake Out
- Knock Off
- ExtremeSpeed

With so many Pokemon reliant on Eviolite, Knock Off is a formidable tool, and Murkrow gets STAB on it. In addition, it has the most powerful Aerilate Boomburst available (I think?), which, in conjunction with Knock Off and V-Create, turns it into a potent wall-breaker.

Obviously there are a ton of other sets for these three pokes but I don't really have all that much experience in bh so idk
 
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Trapinch @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thousand Arrows
- Copycat
- Diamond Storm
- V-create

Behold, the wonder that is Copycat Trapinch. Trapinch has the highest Attack out of all Ground-type Pokemon in LC, while also being the slowest, but this means it can abuse Thousand Arrows + Copycat very well. Diamond Storm is QuakeEdge, as already known w/e. V-create is so strong o.o, and Copycat mitigates its Speed drops as well. This Trapinch is quite powerful and can be abused well. However, Drilbur is another viable option over Trapinch because it is similar in strength, but is much faster and has much more bulk. Although, Trapinch is way better than Drilbur, so you get the added coolness factor!
 
Happiny (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Skill Swap
- Milk Drink
- Parting Shot
Munchlax has more HP than Happiny.

More LC BH stuff from a team I made a really long time ago:

Refrigerate Sneasel! Fake Out / Extreme Speed / Knock Off (Eviolites are annoying) / Thousand Arrows or something like that.

Ferroseed is a good wall (Flash Fire?)

Clamperl is ridiculous with DeepSeaTooth (or Scale, probably).

Snubbull is the best physical Pixie.
 
Munchlax has more HP than Happiny.

More LC BH stuff from a team I made a really long time ago:

Refrigerate Sneasel! Fake Out / Extreme Speed / Knock Off (Eviolites are annoying) / Thousand Arrows or something like that.

Ferroseed is a good wall (Flash Fire?)

Clamperl is ridiculous with DeepSeaTooth (or Scale, probably).

Snubbull is the best physical Pixie.
Clamperl @ DeepSeaTooth
Ability: Contrary
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Rash/Modest Nature
- V-create
- Leaf Storm
- Superpower/Steam Eruption
- Boomburst/Steam Eruption

Contrary Clamperl :D
V-Create for defenses and speed. Leaf Storm for sp atk. Superpower for stronker v-create/superpower or Steam Eruption. If Superpower > Steam Eruption Rash, if Superpower < Steam Eruption, Modest. Your choice!

Step 1: Spam an attack
Step 2: Fuck bitches
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
 
Clamperl @ DeepSeaTooth
Ability: Contrary
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Rash/Modest Nature
- V-create
- Leaf Storm
- Superpower/Steam Eruption
- Boomburst/Steam Eruption

Contrary Clamperl :D
V-Create for defenses and speed. Leaf Storm for sp atk. Superpower for stronker v-create/superpower or Steam Eruption. If Superpower > Steam Eruption Rash, if Superpower < Steam Eruption, Modest. Your choice!

Step 1: Spam an attack
Step 2: Fuck bitches
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
But then Imposter Munchlax appears D:
 
deepseatooth >:D
252+ SpA Munchlax (transformed) Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Clamperl: 22-28 (95.6 - 121.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Deep Sea Tooth Clamperl Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Clamperl: 32-38 (96.9 - 115.1%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

It's whoever wins the speed tie, really. And Munchlax has a higher chance to OHKO even w/o Deep See Tooth D:
 
But then Imposter Munchlax appears D:
Duskull @ Eviolite
Ability: Unaware
Level: 5
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Milk Drink
- Knock Off
- Circle Throw
You Called ;)?

252 Atk burned Clamperl V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Duskull: 4-5 (19 - 23.8%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Clamperl V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Duskull: 8-10 (38 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Clamperl Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Duskull: 6-8 (28.5 - 38%) -- 59.1% chance to 3HKO

No joke :)
 
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