Resource Little Cup Role Compendium

[Aerow]

Little Cup Role Compendium​

Approved by Rowan; thanks to Corporal Levi and Nineage for helping out and pi3rate for the banner!
The idea of this thread is to provide a visual list of what Pokémon does what in the Little Cup metagame. This will help new and experienced players alike in finding Pokémon that fit their teams when looking for specific roles, as well as help players build more diverse teams by not always using the same Pokémon to fill the same role.

Below, we have the various roles a Little Cup team might want a Pokémon to fill. For each of these roles is a list of Pokémon which can fulfill that role; all of the Pokémon listed can work at least somewhat viably as a performer of the role, but they have been ranked very roughly by how viable it would be to use a Pokémon for said role in the current metagame. If there is a Pokémon which is not listed which can perform well in a certain role, please feel free to post about it, and we may add it. However, this thread is not meant to be a place for discussion about the viability of Pokémon in general, unless a Pokémon's placement is drastically off - we have a metagame discussion thread and Viability Rankings for that.

(the Pokemon in each section are roughly listed after their viability in each role, i.e Mienfoo is the best offensive and defensive Pokemon in the meta, and is therefore listed first in these sections.)

Great offensive Pokémon: (based on offensive presence, both immediate and as a teammate)

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Great defensive Pokémon: (based on defensive utility, whether through checking threats or directly supporting the team)

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Dedicated leads:

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Set-up sweepers:

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Pivots:

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Wallbreakers:

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Stealth Rock users:

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Spikes users:

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Sticky Web users:

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Stallbreakers:

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Priority users:

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Fletchling checks:

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(Mono) Fighting-type checks:

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Pawniard checks:

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Zigzagoon checks:

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Abra and Gastly checks:

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Shell Smash checks:

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Sun checks:

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Memento/Parting Shot users:

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Trappers:

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Clerics:

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Phazers + Clear Smog:

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Defog users:

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Rapid Spin users:

 

[boo836]

Make a list for viable Memento users (and Pancham), since they 've been important in LC for a while. Idk if you want to make an in depth guide either but I'll help you out if you need it.

 

[TheFenderStory]

You might want to consider rankings within the role categories to make this easier to use. As much as I love Kabuto, it's not quite as viable a spinner as Drilbur.

 

[Aerow]

You might want to consider rankings within the role categories to make this easier to use. As much as I love Kabuto, it's not quite as viable a spinner as Drilbur.

They are roughly listed after their viability in each category. For the Rapid Spin section, Drilbur is the most viable Rapid Spin user, then Staryu etc. The list is therefore like this:

Drilbur is better than -> Staryu -> Kabuto -> Shellder -> Sandshrew -> Tentacool -> Anorith -> Pineco -> Baltoy

 

[tazz]

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things that do not really beat zig
Tirtouga
tirt does not check zig. Seed bomb beats defensive and theif beats berry juice
Wooper
196+ Atk Zigzagoon Seed Bomb vs. 236 HP / 156+ Def Unaware Wooper: 20-28 (80 - 112%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
0 Atk Wooper Earthquake vs. 132 HP / 28 Def Eviolite Zigzagoon: 7-10 (31.8 - 45.4%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
better pray for a scald burn
Spritzee
12 SpA Spritzee Moonblast vs. 132 HP / 108 SpD Eviolite Zigzagoon: 7-10 (31.8 - 45.4%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
+6 196+ Atk Zigzagoon Extreme Speed vs. 212 HP / 196+ Def Spritzee: 27-33 (100 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
better hope for a crit
Mienfoo
+6 196+ Atk Zigzagoon Extreme Speed vs. 116 HP / 196 Def Eviolite Mienfoo: 21-25 (95.4 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
(21, 21, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 22, 22, 22, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 25)
I would rather not rely on a low roll
Pumpkaboo
standard I think is 11 or 12 so if there's extra speed investment required it should probably say, if not thief
Munchlax
+6 196+ Atk Zigzagoon Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 36 Def Eviolite Munchlax: 27-33 (90 - 110%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
again, low roll. If not standard spread make specific.
There are a couple others that I don't think do either but I'll have to do some calcs
Ponyta
+6 196+ Atk Zigzagoon Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 236 Def Eviolite Ponyta: 21-25 (100 - 119%) -- guaranteed OHKO
yeah, better hope for the 30%
Porygon
+6 196+ Atk Zigzagoon Extreme Speed vs. 236 HP / 196 Def Porygon: 27-33 (103.8 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(27, 27, 28, 28, 28, 28, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 31, 31, 31, 31, 33)
0 SpA Porygon Tri Attack vs. 132 HP / 108 SpD Eviolite Zigzagoon: 7-10 (31.8 - 45.4%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
wins v wall set
236+ SpA Porygon Tri Attack vs. 132 HP / 108 SpD Eviolite Zigzagoon: 9-12 (40.9 - 54.5%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO
bulky attacker depends on high roll
(9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12)
can paralyze it I guess but that's not solid enough to be called a counter

 

[chimp]

For added fun you can separate each category into tiers. Fletchling/Pawniard are much better priority abusers than Pumpkaboo, for example.

 

[tazz]

Considering both shellder and omanyte beat it, consider taking foongus out of smasher checks

 

[infamy]

this is really sexy, thanks aerow! will make suggestions tomorrow when im not on mobile :]

 

[Good Morgan]

For added fun you can separate each category into tiers. Fletchling/Pawniard are much better priority abusers than Pumpkaboo, for example.

I second this, but if it turns into a mini-viability rankings in terms of "discussion," there could be trouble.

 

[Nineage]

For added fun you can separate each category into tiers. Fletchling/Pawniard are much better priority abusers than Pumpkaboo, for example.

They are roughly listed after their viability in each category. For the Rapid Spin section, Drilbur is the most viable Rapid Spin user, then Staryu etc. The list is therefore like this:

Drilbur is better than -> Staryu -> Kabuto -> Shellder -> Sandshrew -> Tentacool -> Anorith -> Pineco -> Baltoy

Fletchling is listed before pumpkaboo, because it is a better priority abuser. Is there a reason we need the categories seperated into tiers when they are sorted already?

 

[The Avalanches]

I really don't want something so succinct and concise to become complicated by splitting this thing into ranks. All of these Pokemon are ranked in the viability thread anyway, I feel as though that's enough.

 

[Coconut]

This is beautiful. Leave it in this format exactly.

 

[The Quasar]

This is really a good idea. What do you think to insert a weather setters' paragraph?

 

[The Avalanches]

This is really a good idea. What do you think to insert a weather setters' paragraph?

Perhaps they could make a section for just sun users/setters/allies, it's probably the only weather worth mention. Rain is so fun, but it really isn't all that viable.

 

[The Quasar]

Perhaps they could make a section for just sun users/setters/allies, it's probably the only weather worth mention. Rain is so fun, but it really isn't all that viable.

There's also Sand and Hail. I agree with you, above all Rain and Hail are really uncommon. But...why not?

Now that I think about, could be useful even a baton pass paragraph, too.

 

[Shredder]

Trick room setters?That would be nice

 

[Camden]

Trick room setters?That would be nice

Trick Room isn't really that viable in LC, so it might be a waste to put it here, unless we're looking to include all sorts of stuff like, in which case we should include weather setters, BP users, TR setters, phazers, etc. I think the goal of this is to aim for solutions to viable strategies, so idk if Aerow would want to include those.

 

[ApplepieFTW]

Thanks for making this man, as someone who plans on learning LC this thread is suuuper useful for building. I just wanted to point out that the stunky and pawniard (abra/gastly checks) sprites share the same link; the link to pawniard's analysis. The same goes spinarak and mienfoo (priority); both link to spinarak.

 

[Lord Alphose]

Awesome thread but no Koffing in defensive mons? It's so cute though...and good at defensive stuff. That too.

 

[tazz]

Archen is a really good wallbreaker and should probably be there.

 

[Rowan]

Things like tr/weather setters / baton pass aren't that important because they're for specialised teams, this thread shows things which might be needed on any team

Phazers might be good to add though.

 

[antemortem]

Things like tr/weather setters / baton pass aren't that important because they're for specialised teams, this thread shows things which might be needed on any team

Phazers might be good to add though.

maybe Memento and Parting Shot aren't reserved for "specialized" teams, but they are definitely set apart from other role categories and I think it's fair enough to list weather setters. to be fair, perhaps include a weather sweeper category to coincide. maybe this isn't the primary role of the compendium, but an idea to consider

 

[Rowan]

maybe Memento and Parting Shot aren't reserved for "specialized" teams, but they are definitely set apart from other role categories and I think it's fair enough to list weather setters. to be fair, perhaps include a weather sweeper category to coincide. maybe this isn't the primary role of the compendium, but an idea to consider

Thing is, if you build a team that has 5 mons and you need a last mon, you might say, hmm a memento user would really help my team. You wouldn't think, 'I know I'll add a rain setter as my last mon.' That's the big difference. You start to build with weather setters at the beginning, not at the end, but you may add a memento user near the end, in which case this thread will be useful.

edit: can we also add clerics as well as phazers.

clerics:
Chinchou, Spritzee, Lickitung, Chikorita, Snubbull, Buneary

PHazers and Clear Smog users
Hippopotas, Vullaby, Munchlax, Foongus, Onix, Koffing, Lickitung, Pancham, Vulpix, Archen, Growlithe, Dratini,

 

[Shredder]

Things like tr/weather setters / baton pass aren't that important because they're for specialised teams, this thread shows things which might be needed on any team

Yeah but aren't sticky webs for specialised teams why are they listed then

 

[Rowan]

Yeah but aren't sticky webs for specialised teams why are they listed then

sticky web teams aren't as specialised imo. every pokemon on your team can benefit from sticky web, not everything benefits from tr or weather