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Gen 3 Live Smogcast RoA Edition: ADV - Sunday, June 23rd at 12:30 PM EST
- Thread starter BKC
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What is the best way to get into this metagame in the first place? Unlike RBY or GSC there is almost an assumption that you already know how it works, or at least the site has no general guides for the meta. Furthermore what kind of teams and play styles are good for beginners?
lol strong panelists with recent and old players (no reyscarface?)
Thoughts on ADV being cut out of the Tour series when XY comes out? Will ADV end up in obscurity like RBY and GSC?
This will probably be answered during the cast, but what are some effective cores that you find yourself using in ADV?
Thoughts on ADV being cut out of the Tour series when XY comes out? Will ADV end up in obscurity like RBY and GSC?
This will probably be answered during the cast, but what are some effective cores that you find yourself using in ADV?
How much did ADV revolutionize the metagame? What Pokemon(s) were affected most by the changes from GSC to ADV?
Are flying types overpowered (and was this perhaps a motive for the implementation of stealth rock)?
What was sand stream's impact on this meta, did it make the gen favor stall?
What were strong cores (except for skarm/bliss/claydol, everyone knows that one by now)?
Dugtrio: what's the deal with him?
And finally,
What is your opinion on the Smeargle ingrain ban in march 2011? Was it necessary? Are smogon just crybabies who don't like baton pass or did baton pass really have a distorted risk/reward when put on an equivalent base? Did it make gen3 uncompetitive? Was it a policy ban ("don't use this, asshole")? Overcentralizing?
What was sand stream's impact on this meta, did it make the gen favor stall?
What were strong cores (except for skarm/bliss/claydol, everyone knows that one by now)?
Dugtrio: what's the deal with him?
And finally,
What is your opinion on the Smeargle ingrain ban in march 2011? Was it necessary? Are smogon just crybabies who don't like baton pass or did baton pass really have a distorted risk/reward when put on an equivalent base? Did it make gen3 uncompetitive? Was it a policy ban ("don't use this, asshole")? Overcentralizing?
- Why the metagame is so centralized in 3 or 4 mons? (TTar-Celebi-Pert)
- What you think about the current tiers, uu, bl and nu? Why there are a lot of mons in BL Tier? Maybe an RU tier could be viable on ADV?
- I always worried about Mew. If there is a possibility that Mew goes down to OU, what would be the conditions and how would affect the metagame?
- What you think about the current tiers, uu, bl and nu? Why there are a lot of mons in BL Tier? Maybe an RU tier could be viable on ADV?
- I always worried about Mew. If there is a possibility that Mew goes down to OU, what would be the conditions and how would affect the metagame?
1) What is the main difference between today`s ADV metagame and the one we had before DP? What should someone comming back to ADV after being away from it since 2006 be aware of?
2) Let`s pretend Smogon decided to allow Wobbuffet without Leftovers in OU. How do you think this would this affect the metagame?
2) Let`s pretend Smogon decided to allow Wobbuffet without Leftovers in OU. How do you think this would this affect the metagame?
as i'm sure anyone who is familiar with adv knows, adv ou has undergone a drastic meta game change starting right around when adv was incorporated back into the tour. it's become way more offensive, less stall oriented, and even more centralized it seems around a select few mons. i'd like to know what the panelists think are the main factors that allowed such a change, be it a different player base, different mindsets for up and coming players, or the idea of stall being obsolete carrying over from bw, among other things.
Cool stuff.
Talk about why everyone and their mother seems to stick 3 common team arche-types nowadays:
CMoffense with Duggy
TTar(Pursuit)-Forry-Gengar-Stall (often paired with Blissey+bulky Water+Filler)
physical Offense + Magneton (i.e. CB-Mence+CB-Meta+Lax+Maggy)
Why arent people branching out more? Is it too hard to build different kinds of teams in ADV? Did the Stour centralize ADV around this stuff? Why dont we see Mons like Tauros or Rhydon anymore as we did back when ADV was hot?
Etc. pp.
:)
Talk about why everyone and their mother seems to stick 3 common team arche-types nowadays:
CMoffense with Duggy
TTar(Pursuit)-Forry-Gengar-Stall (often paired with Blissey+bulky Water+Filler)
physical Offense + Magneton (i.e. CB-Mence+CB-Meta+Lax+Maggy)
Why arent people branching out more? Is it too hard to build different kinds of teams in ADV? Did the Stour centralize ADV around this stuff? Why dont we see Mons like Tauros or Rhydon anymore as we did back when ADV was hot?
Etc. pp.
:)