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Lotad (LC Analysis)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Aerrow, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. Aerrow

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    Lotad
    (Taking this over for macle; he had everything written up, I'm just getting this past GP)

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    [Overview]

    <p>Lotad is a great asset to any Rain Dance team, as its Grass-type STAB allows it to break through Water-types that usually wall Rain Dance sweepers. Lotad has low base stats however, which makes it hard for it to KO bulky Pokemon and harder for it to take a hit. Overall, it's usually better to use a different Swift Swimmer than Lotad.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swift Swimmer
    move 1: Surf
    move 2: Energy Ball
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Swift Swim
    nature: Timid
    evs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
    ivs: 2 HP

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad excels at sweeping on a Rain Dance team thanks to its ability Swift Swim, its access to a super effective STAB type against Water-types, and its ability to reach 26 Speed in the rain, letting it outspeed all non-Choice Scarfed Pokemon. Lotad has Surf and Energy Ball for STAB and can hit Grass-types that resist Surf and Energy Ball with Ice Beam. Hidden Power Rock allows you to hit Mantyke, who would otherwise wall your other attacks, for super effective damage. Hidden Power Rock can also rough up Snover on the switch, who is a pain for Rain Dance teams to face. Lowering the HP IV stat to 2 allows Lotad to reach 19 HP, which is a Life Orb number, and still maintain a 70 Base Power Hidden Power. The EVs are designed to max out Speed and Special Attack while the rest is dumped into Defense and Special Defense to add bulk.</p>

    [Additional COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad can potentially play two different roles on a team: late-game sweeper or wallbreaker. Lotad can damage many common Rain team counters like Croagunk, Munchlax, and Snover, but don't expect it to take retaliation well. Lotad can also easily sweep once a few walls are removed. Hidden Power Psychic is an option to hit Croagunk, who can damage Lotad severely, on the switch. Rain Dance can also be used in the last slot but Lotad is so slow and fragile that it will be KOed by most attacks before it can set up Rain Dance. Voltorb is the ideal lead to set up Rain Dance because of its excellent Speed. Bronzor is another Pokemon that can help set up rain for Lotad; it can also take on Snover, who is a pain for Lotad and Rain Dance teams in general.</p>

    [Team Options]

    <p>Lotad needs a Pokemon to set up Rain Dance for it if it's not using Rain Dance itself. Voltorb is the perfect lead to set this up since it is the fastest Pokemon with access to Rain Dance. Other Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Mantyke, can help punch holes in opposing teams, giving Lotad a chance to sweep.</p>

    <p>Bulky Pokemon, like Munchlax and Snover, and priority users, like Croagunk, cause Lotad pain. Chople Berry Kabuto helps to deal with these Pokemon. Kabuto hurts Munchlax badly with Waterfall in the rain and can crush Snover with Rock Slide. Kabuto also lures out Croagunk, survives a Vacuum Wave, and hit Croagunk back with Aerial Ace.</p>

    [Optional Changes]

    <p>Lotad can run Leech Seed, Protect, Substitute, and either Rain Dance or Surf to cause annoyance to the opponent's team. However, Lotad's low defenses doesn't allow it to set up often. Lotad can attempt to make use of Swords Dance , but lacks a physical Water-type STAB. Lotad also gets Synthesis, which helps it recover HP, but its effectiveness is hampered by rain. It can also run Icy Wind instead of Ice Beam to slow down enemies.</p>

    [Counters]

    <p>Snover causes huge problems for Lotad. It can switch in and stop the rain, then outspeed Lotad and hurt it with STAB Blizzard. Munchlax can switch in and take even STAB Surf from Lotad without fearing a 2HKO, and KO back with Return. Swift Swim Mantyke can come in on any move besides Hidden Power Rock, outspeed Lotad, and then KO it with Hidden Power Flying.</p>

    <p>Once the rain has stopped, Lotad is quite vulnerable to powerful sweepers like Gastly, Elekid, Gligar, and Houndour. Pokemon wielding Choice Scarf that reach over 26 Speed can easily revenge kill Lotad in the rain. Common Pokemon that meet this criteria are Gastly and Gligar, all of whom can tear Lotad apart with their STAB moves.</p>
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    I've actually use Lotad on every Rain Dance team I have, and it's actually pretty good. Sure, it's extremely predictable, but its a good Pokemon. Approved.
  3. Kannon

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    Lotad is decent I guess, and this set has pretty much everything it needs.
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    and with this stamp I shall sign your retirement from doing qc for rainmons :(
  4. bugmaniacbob

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    Eh

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    I think you mean Houndour.
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    This set is so short, I am really going to require that you add some more content or at least do something before this goes on in the GP stage. There should not be entire paragraphs with only one sentence; surely there is more that can be written.

    For instance, you don't mention team options at all in the set, you don't mention what actually beats it, you don't even explain the EV spread, you don't explain the HP IV, and more. Please beef this up a bit.
  7. Dubulous

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    I agree with Rising_Dusk's sentiments. This analysis takes conciseness to the extreme.
  8. macle

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    I added more to it. Please tell me if it's "beefed up" enough.
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    you said Staryu could tear Lotad apart with its STAB. Scarfed Hydro Pump does 20% - 25% to that Lotad. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are guaranteed 2HKOs, though. Even so, that means that Lotad can take a hit and OHKO back with Energy Ball (i think). Remove Staryu and put in some other 27Spe + scarfer (elekid comes to mind, but you already mentioned that).
  10. sensible

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    *_* what is this sentence? I r confuzzled.

    EDIT: Also bump i guess...
  11. Darkamber8828

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    You don't actually slash Rain Dance in the set...

    Also, Mantyke resists Energy Ball? And Ice Beam?
  12. macle

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    changed.
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    [box][Overview]

    <p>Lotad is a great asset to any Rain Dance team, as its Grass-type STAB allows it to hit Water-types that usually wall Rain Dance sweepers. Lotad has low base stats, which makes it hard for it to KO bulky Pokemon and harder for it to take a hit. Overall, it's usually better to use a different Swift Swimmer than Lotad most of the time.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swift Swimmer
    move 1: Surf
    move 2: Energy Ball
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Swift Swim
    nature: Timid
    evs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
    ivs: 2 HP

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad excels at being a Rain Dance sweeper thanks to its ability Swift Swim, its access to a super-effective STAB type on Water-types, and its ability to reach 26 Speed in the rain, letting it outspeed all non Choice Scarfed Pokemon. Lotad only has access to Surf and Energy Ball for STAB but can hit Grass-types that resist Surf and Energy Ball with Ice Beam. Hidden Power Rock allows you to hit Mantyke, who would otherwise wall your attacks, for super-effective damage. Hidden Power Rock can also hit Snover on the switch, who is a pain rain teams to face. Lowering the HP stat to 2 allows Lotad to reach 19 HP, which is a Life Orb number, and still maintain a 70 base power Hidden Power. The EVs are to max out Speed and Special Attack while the rest is dumped into Defense and Special Defensive to add bulk.</p>

    [Additional COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad can run two different potential roles on a team: late game sweeper or wall breaker. Lotad can damage many common rain team counters like Croagunk, Munchlax, and Snover, but will likely die eventually. However, Lotad can easily sweep once a few walls are removed. Hidden Power Psychic can be used to hit Croagunk, who can damage Lotad severely, on the switch. Rain Dance can also be used in the last slot but Lotad is so slow and fragile that he will be KOed by most attacks before setting up Rain Dance. Lotad needs rain set up for it if you are not running Rain Dance on the set. Voltorb is the ideal lead to set up Rain Dance because of its excellent Speed. Bronzor is another Pokemon that can help set up rain for Lotad. It can also take on Snover, who is a pain for Lotad and rain teams in general.</p>

    [Team Options]

    <p>Lotad needs a Pokemon to set up Rain Dance for it if it's not using Rain Dance itself. Voltorb is the perfect lead to set this up since it is the fastest Pokemon with access to Rain Dance. Other Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Mantyke, can help punch holes in opposing teams. </p>

    <p>Bulky Pokemon like Munchlax and Snover and priority users like Croagunk cause Lotad pain. Chople Berry Kabuto helps to deal with these Pokemon. Kabuto hurts Munchlax badly with Waterfall in the Rain and can use Rock Slide on Snover. Kabuto also lures in Croagunk, survives a Vacuum Wave, and hits back with Aerial Ace.</p>

    [Optional Changes]

    <p>Lotad can run Leech Seed, Protect, Substitute, and either Rain Dance or Surf to cause annoyance to the opponent's team. However, Lotad's low defenses don't allow him to set up often. Lotad can attempt to make use of Sword Dance, but lacks a physical Water-type STAB. Lotad also gets Synthesis, which helps it recover HP. It can also run Icy Wind instead of Ice Beam to slow down enemies.</p>

    [Counters]

    <p>Snover causes huge problems for Lotad. It can switch in and stop the rain, then outspeed Lotad and hurt it with STAB Blizzard. Munchlax can switch in and take even STAB Surf from Lotad without fearing a 2HKO, and KO back with Return. Swift Swim Mantyke can come in on any move besides Hidden Power Rock, outspeed Lotad, and then KO it with Hidden Power Flying.</p>

    <p>Once the rain has stopped, Lotad is quite vulnerable to powerful sweepers like Gastly, Elekid, Gligar, and Houndour. Pokemon wielding Choice Scarf that reach over 26 Speed can easily revenge kill Lotad in the rain. Common Pokemon that reach over 26 Speed with Choice Scarf are Gastly and Gligar, both of whom can tear Lotad apart with their STABs.</p>[/box]
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    [Overview]

    <p>Lotad is a great asset to any Rain Dance team, as its Grass-type STAB allows it to hit break through Water-types that usually wall Rain Dance sweepers. Lotad has low base stats however, which makes it hard for it to KO bulky Pokemon and harder for it to take a hit. Overall, it's usually better to use a different Swift Swimmer than Lotad most of the time.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swift Swimmer
    move 1: Surf
    move 2: Energy Ball
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Swift Swim
    nature: Timid
    evs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
    ivs: 2 HP

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad excels at sweeping on a Rain Dance team thanks to its ability Swift Swim, its access to a super-effective super effective STAB type on against Water-types, and its ability to reach 26 Speed in the rain, letting it outspeed all non-Choice Scarfed Pokemon. Lotad has to Surf and Energy Ball for STAB and can hit Grass-types that resist Surf and Energy Ball with Ice Beam. Hidden Power Rock allows you to hit Mantyke, who would otherwise wall your other attacks, for STAB super effective damage. Hidden Power Rock can also hit rough up Snover on the switch, who is a pain for Rain Dance teams to face. Lowering the HP IV stat to 2 allows Lotad to reach 19 HP, which is a Life Orb number, and still maintain a 70 Base Power Hidden Power. The EVs are designed to max out Speed and Special Attack while the rest is dumped into Defense and Special Defensive Defense to add bulk.</p>

    [Additional COMMENTS]

    <p>Lotad can run potentially play two different potential roles on a team: late-game sweeper or wallbreaker. Lotad can damage many common Rain team counters like Croagunk, Munchlax, and Snover, but will likely die eventually don't expect it to take retaliation well. However, Lotad can also easily sweep once a few walls are removed. Hidden Power Psychic can be used is an option to hit Croagunk, who can damage Lotad severely, on the switch. Rain Dance can also be used in the last slot but Lotad is so slow and fragile that it will be KOed by most attacks before setting up it can set up Rain Dance. Lotad needs Rain set up for it if you are not running Rain Dance on the set. Voltorb is the ideal lead to set up Rain Dance because of its excellent Speed. Bronzor is another Pokemon that can help set up rain for Lotad; it can also take on Snover, who is a pain for Lotad and Rain Dance teams in general.</p>

    [Team Options]

    <p>Lotad needs a Pokemon to set up Rain Dance for it if it's not using Rain Dance itself. Voltorb is the perfect lead to set this up since it is the fastest Pokemon with access to Rain Dance. Other Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Mantyke, can help punch holes in opposing teams, allowing a chance for Lotad giving Lotad a chance to sweep.</p>

    <p>Bulky Pokemon, like Munchlax and Snover, and priority users, like Croagunk, cause Lotad pain. Chople Berry Kabuto helps to deal with these Pokemon. Kabuto hurts Munchlax badly with Waterfall in the rain and can crush Snover with Rock Slide use Rock Slide on Snover. Kabuto also lures out Croagunk, survives a Vacuum Wave, and hit in Croagunk back with Aerial Ace.</p>

    [Optional Changes]

    <p>Lotad can run Leech Seed, Protect, Substitute, and either Rain Dance or Surf to cause annoyance to the opponent's team. However, Lotad's low defenses doesn't allow it him to set up often. Lotad can attempt to make use of Swords Dance , but lacks a physical Water-type STAB. Lotad also gets Synthesis, which helps it recover HP, but its effectiveness is hampered by rain. It can also run Icy Wind instead of Ice Beam to slow down enemies.</p>

    [Counters]

    <p>Snover causes huge problems for Lotad. It can switch in and stop the rain, then outspeed Lotad and hurt it with STAB Blizzard. Munchlax can switch in and take even STAB Surf from Lotad without fearing a 2HKO, and KO back with Return. Swift Swim Mantyke can come in on any move besides Hidden Power Rock, outspeed Lotad, and then KO it with Hidden Power Flying.</p>

    <p>Once the rain has stopped, Lotad is quite vulnerable to powerful sweepers like Gastly, Elekid, Gligar, and Houndour. Pokemon wielding Choice Scarf that reach over 26 Speed can easily revenge kill Lotad in the rain. Common Pokemon that reach over 26 Speed with Choice Scarf meet this criteria are Gastly and Gligar, all of whom all can tear Lotad apart with their STAB moves.</p>


    some obvious mistakes abound unfortunately, watch out for the capitalization of rain especially

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    regarding lamecrasher's grammar check:

    super effective should not have a hyphen
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    Thanks Fate (and Snorlaxe). Changes have been implemented, so this analysis is now ready for upload.

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