teachable
Banned deucer.
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Project Lure That Threat SM RU Edition - Week 24: Moltres (Voting)
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Grassium z moltres by mr aldo
Wandering Wobbuffet
formerly Based Honker
Gassium Z ninetales
grassium ninetales
Grassium Z Ninetales
z-moltres
teachable
Banned deucer.
Voting period is up. The winners for this week are Grassium Z Ninetales by iRKD and Grassium Z Moltres by MrAldo! The additional winner for this week is Endeavor Swellow by HypnoEmpire. New threat coming soon™.
Grassium Z Ninetales by iRKD - 4
Grassium Z Moltres by MrAldo - 3
Endeavor Swellow by HypnoEmpire - 2
Life Orb Zoroark by Randomnick - 0
Toxic Diancie by askov - 0
Grassium Z Moltres by MrAldo - 3
Endeavor Swellow by HypnoEmpire - 2
Life Orb Zoroark by Randomnick - 0
Toxic Diancie by askov - 0
teachable
Banned deucer.
Week 13: Defensive Porygon2
Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace / Download
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpD
Calm Nature
- Recover
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt / Foul Play
A Pokemon that has recently picked up in popularity with the Sharpedo-fiasco, Porygon2 is one of the best overall checks to either Sharpedo set in addition to tanking a lot of other neutral hits thrown its way. Recover separates Porygon2 from some of the other bulkier Pokemon in the tier, providing it with incredibly reliable recovery. Thunder Wave is used for speed control purposes, allowing Porygon2 to support more offensive teams and check Salazzle. Ice Beam paired with Tbolt is chosen over a STAB move as non-super effective moves coming from Porygon2 tend to not hit too hard. Foul Play is an alternative option that allows Porygon2 to check Pokemon like Swords Dance Feraligatr/Mega Abomasnow/Doublade.
Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace / Download
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpD
Calm Nature
- Recover
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt / Foul Play
Nidoqueen (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock / Sludge Wave
This is pretty much Taunt queen but with toxic over taunt, which would still do as decently against the same targets Taunt covers. you toxic potential porygon2 switch ins, umbreons, milotics, cress, all that good stuff, then depending on who it is you stay in and pressure with strong hits or switch out and just stick with crippling them with a toxic.
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Doublade (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Shadow Claw
- Shadow Sneak
- Iron Head
P2 normally walls doublade all day long, so it's gonna switch in right away usually. So you just drop a toxic and shut down P2's ability to wall stuff.
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Salazzle (F) @ Poisonium Z/Firium Z
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Knock Off
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Nasty Plot
Salazzle with Knock Off can remove P2's Eviolite and effectively break it at +2 with Z-Sludge Wave or Z-Fire Blast
+2 252 SpA Salazzle Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Porygon2: 415-490 (110.9 - 131%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Salazzle Inferno Overdrive (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Porygon2: 441-519 (117.9 - 138.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Salazzle Inferno Overdrive (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Porygon2: 441-519 (117.9 - 138.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Superpower / Crunch
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch / Crunch
SD Gatr is a menace. It just plows through its defensive checks. Superpower lures P2 and Bewear, but in return you have to give up on either Crunch or Ice Punch. Crunch kills Cress and Doub from full at +2, but seeing as Chester is everywhere, I'd assume Ice Punch would be the better choice of coverage.
Threw in some other calcs even though P2 is the topic. Felt like it was necesary to to show why SD Gatr is worth running. Oh, and all of the aforementioned mons are Shark checks, so yeah... Water spam spikes offense is looking mighty fine, if i do say so myself.
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Superpower / Crunch
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch / Crunch
SD Gatr is a menace. It just plows through its defensive checks. Superpower lures P2 and Bewear, but in return you have to give up on either Crunch or Ice Punch. Crunch kills Cress and Doub from full at +2, but seeing as Chester is everywhere, I'd assume Ice Punch would be the better choice of coverage.
Relevant Calcs:
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 419-494 (112 - 132%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 273-321 (72.9 - 85.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 252 HP / 176+ Def Milotic: 290-342 (73.6 - 86.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Fluffy Bewear: 387-458 (101.5 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 84+ Def Chesnaught: 374-442 (98.4 - 116.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 383-452 (97.2 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cresselia: 356-421 (80.1 - 94.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Crunch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Doublade: 263-309 (81.6 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Doublade: 196-231 (60.8 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 419-494 (112 - 132%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 273-321 (72.9 - 85.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 252 HP / 176+ Def Milotic: 290-342 (73.6 - 86.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Fluffy Bewear: 387-458 (101.5 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 84+ Def Chesnaught: 374-442 (98.4 - 116.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 383-452 (97.2 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cresselia: 356-421 (80.1 - 94.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Crunch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Doublade: 263-309 (81.6 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Doublade: 196-231 (60.8 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Threw in some other calcs even though P2 is the topic. Felt like it was necesary to to show why SD Gatr is worth running. Oh, and all of the aforementioned mons are Shark checks, so yeah... Water spam spikes offense is looking mighty fine, if i do say so myself.
hs
Banned deucer.
Swellow @ Choice Specs
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Boomburst
- U-turn
- Heat Wave
- Toxic
Another "just stuck Toxic into a mon P2 checks and call it a lure" mon...
Toxic completely undermines Porygon2's defensive capabilities. Swellow can cripple P2 on the switch with Toxic, and once P2 is intoxicated, Swellow can spam Boomburst because P2 will be forced to use Recover. This also hits Cresselia, Gigalith, Rhyperior and Diancie.
252 SpA Choice Specs Swellow Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 129-153 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after toxic damage
252 SpA Choice Specs Swellow Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 129-153 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and toxic damage
252 SpA Choice Specs Swellow Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 129-153 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock, 1 layer of Spikes, and toxic damage
252 SpA Choice Specs Swellow Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 129-153 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and toxic damage
252 SpA Choice Specs Swellow Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 152+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 129-153 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock, 1 layer of Spikes, and toxic damage
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Tsareena @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Queenly Majesty
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Rapid Spin
- U-turn
- Trop Kick
For the low ladders who love their spinners, here's a cheap trick on how to bust open a rubber ducky with your thighs. Forget sneaking toxicity on a Pokemon and waiting forever, Tsareena will throw down and do severe damage, KOing it with a bit of chip. One must still be wary Ghosts or its mortal nemesis Doublade if they and P2 are paired, so Trop Kick accordingly to not waste the Z-move while they try to block Spins.
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 286-338 (76.4 - 90.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 308-364 (84.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO <-watch out for Protect
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Honchkrow: 368-434 (107.9 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- next time pick another plant to feed on. HJK OHKOs with 1 SR chip so save the Z if anything
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 211-249 (65.1 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <-CB, does a little less to RestTalk so if you want to kick this out of the playing field its possible with enough dmg
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bewear: 530-624 (119.3 - 140.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- reg HJK does max 47, could take this out to if you're feeling pressured by it
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Honchkrow: 368-434 (107.9 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- next time pick another plant to feed on. HJK OHKOs with 1 SR chip so save the Z if anything
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 211-249 (65.1 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <-CB, does a little less to RestTalk so if you want to kick this out of the playing field its possible with enough dmg
252+ Atk Tsareena All-Out Pummeling (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bewear: 530-624 (119.3 - 140.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- reg HJK does max 47, could take this out to if you're feeling pressured by it
teachable
Banned deucer.
Nomination period is up; vote for the 2 best lures :^).
Me and eifo
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