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MAFIA FOREVER - Postgame

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by Thunda, May 13, 2009.

  1. Thunda

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    Post Game

    Welcome to the post game of MAFIA FOREVER. Both me and Gmax had a lot of fun hosting this, and people we've spoken to seemed to have a lot of fun playing as well. The Disney Force dominated the game, through the expert moling of Stoo, as well as mixture of bad Superhero luck and extremely incompetent real world leadership from Earthworm (helped by his partner in being-a-(BAN ME PLEASE) LightWolf). I'm gonna analyse each player individually, then give out a few well-deserved awards.

    Also, this sheet has all the roles, as well as priority, and each action carried out at night.

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBoZRa_xUtL2uhi5FnnO5ZQ&gid=3

    And if you want a nice picture of your character as a souvenir, you can find them all at my dedicated photobucket album.

    http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm100/thundaaaa/Forever/?start=all


    The Real World

    Inspected Batman early, but never attempted to get him lynched, which resulted in a villager being lynched. Apart from that, nothing wrong with play. Was smart in not telling Earthworm her role, and because of this Stoo never found out. Also made a good decision in trusting AceMatador, who protected her well. People thought he was the inspector himself for a while. I regret not giving Horatio Caine the item 'Sunglasses.'

    7/10

    Didn't survive long enough to do much at all, but in the short time he was alive managed to troll the village spectacularly, getting a ton of users to post THIS IS SPARTA!, all of them under the impression he would get a kill. Jimbo then told them that the Persians stole all his swords, but he was left with the shields, so he could protect people. Funny stuff. Died because of Earthworm's pretty pathetic attempt to make the Superheroes think AceMatador was the BG and Jimbo was being protected.

    6/10 (+1 for trolling)

    Requested a fucking stupid fake role PM, which no one would ever believe, and was extremely annoying for us to write. He didn't even use it in the end, as far as I care. Fuck you, LightWolf. Also came us with the moronic plan to abuse the request-a-false-PM system, in order to try and clean users. That really backfired, as people just wrote their own. Tip: don't try and abuse game mechanics, especially those made to help people. Also Jack Bauer had the best night action description in the game.

    2/10

    This was his first game, and I was very pleased with him. Managed to contact Fishy, and provide her with good cover from Earthworms mole-ridden village, as well as being her public voice. Ended up dying a hero (double targeted by Wolverine and Akuma) as people thought he was the real inspector. Well played.

    8/10

    Stole an item near the end, the Vest, and played reasonably well. And he wasn't a (BAN ME PLEASE) like the rest of his team. Also had some pretty funny conversations with Isy. By the way, Claude Rains is one of my favourite characters in this game, he found a loophole in his Heroes contract where he gets paid for every episode, even those he didn't feature in, as he can claim he was in the episode, but cannot be seen as he is invisible. Great man.

    6/10

    This idiot attempted to carry out LightWolf's plan to abuse the fake pm system. He asked literally everyone to request a fake PM, and anyone who couldn't get one he asusmed already had one. Seemed to forget that people are capable of writing their own PMs, and didnt suspect Isy or Stoo at all, who wrote their own fake PMs. Ended up telling Stoo a ton of stuff as a result of this misplaced trust, which gave the Disney Force the tools needed to win. Don't abuse game mechanics next time, (BAN ME PLEASE). It lost you the game. In unrelated news Jack Sparrow is a perfect rogue.

    1/10

    I really like this role, and the Samurai Armour is probably my favourite item in the game, even though I am told Samurai Armour is not heavy, it is extremely light. Anyway, iKitsune posted whilst silenced. It was a sad way for the bulletproof best to die, but the last guy to godkill himself (Stoo in Simpsons) ended up sweeping this game. Big things will come from Mr. Kitsune.

    3/10

    Robert Pirés was the last role added, as Avatar told me we needed an extra villager, but with a weak role. Basically just a vote. I decided to make a troll role, and Fishin took itin his stride. He showed nothing but pure dedication. He spent a total of 60 dollars hiring a private French tutor, who taught him the basics needed to survive. Fishin had a real talent for French, and he plans to take his studies further. Unfortunately he died, as a result of Earthworm rushing a lynch, despite knowing Fishin's posting restrictions. Au revoir!!

    6/10 (For his raw passion)

    I really like this role, but sadly Toothache was lynched during his weekend away. He didn't get to do anything at all. I was looking forward to seeing the Bomb frantically passed around all the factions. The Bomb was a pretty great item, and FireFox correcting Al Qauda is a true story!! Crazy.

    5/10

    This was a really unfortunate role to get, sorry Cyzir! He seemed to think he would gain use of a role on Night 5, but in reality that is just the night in which Osama's bomb would detonate. This role is bad, probably even worse than Pirés, but someone has to get it. Me and Gmax always laughed at the thought of someone thinking OH FUCK IM THE TERMINATOR then realising they have no night role at all, nevermind the aiblity to terminate users.

    6/10

    Only got to load his gun before dying on Night One. Jedil accidentally told demon238 that he was Bagheera, which gave dak enough reason to kill him. Probably the villages best role besides hooker. A shame he died so early. I think I gave Trinity good limitations, she had to take one night to load her gun, and another night to fire it. This prevented the village from killing right away, and also made them more suspectible to Mufasa.

    6/10 (+2 for interrogation of Jedil, -1 for dying because of it)

    The Disney Force - WINNERS

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    Stoo wrote his first fake PM (Dhalsim) himself, and therefore passed Earthworm's "test" when asked to request some shitty anime character, as I was able to write it. He was then given access to Earthworm's spreadsheet, and was able to pick off all the village's best roles. Played masterfully, the village probably still trust him. About his role, just a standard hooker, with the killing power of his team. I really like how we handled the killing power of the mafias.

    10/10

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    Aladdin's inspection was incredibly weak, but he was able to kill and had a good item to make his role better. Both the Magic Carpet and Magical Lamp were considered as items, but Vest is a great troll item. dak was able to get his Duke Nukem claim out early, as well as leaking info on Serenity being Wolverine. After being inspected the village didn't doubt his role until it was too late, and he was able to lead his team succesfully.

    9/10

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    Mulan is a staple in any Disney themed game, and Isy successfully brought his family honour. he made a good false claim under high-pressure circumstances, and he was trusted by the village. Fucked around with pookar a bit, which was funny. Sadly his actual role wasn't too useful, as all the good items were destroyed after like the first day/night cycle. He did steal the surfboard though.

    9/10

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    The only member of the Disney Force to play badly. Accidentally told demon238 that he was Bagheera, but he quickly righted his mistake by having demon238 killed. Was also lucky that Fishin never followed up on demon238s info that Jedil = Bagheera. Fishin thought that Jedil had read the wrong role pm. Also, his role was cool, but never took effect sadly. One of the few original (I think) roles in the game. And Bagheera is easily the second best character in the Jungle Book (the villain Shere Kahn didn't fit with the rest of the Disney Force).

    6/10

    Superhero Union

    Wolverine was probably the best role in the game, having re-direction and killing power. Also my favourite character in the Superhero Union. Rev wasn't too active, but had a very funny redirect on night one (Shade owes Rev an eternal debt) and made some good kills once the rest of her team died, making her a lone wolf(erine). Played well and valiantly until the end, never surrendering.

    7/10

    Silver Surfer, like Aladdin, was the weakest role on the Superhero Union, but he, also like Aladdin, had a cool item to make up for it. Junior played well, and with Kumar's aid designed a very believable false claim (Lena Katina and Yulia Volkova), and did a lot of planning and work for his team.

    8/10

    Batman was a standard silencer, and I enjoyed his method of killing. Batman has been in like 75% of all mafia games, which is pretty funny as well. jumpluff was unlucky to be inspected on Night One, however, whilst alive she managed to get iKitsune godkilled, and did a lot of planning with Junior. Was also able to analyse Earthworm's actions and determine that Jimbo was the village BG.

    7/10

    The Superhero's equivalent to Bagheera, standard BG. Kumar contributed to two false claims (t.A.T.u twins and George Bush) which were both very good, and did a lot of early planning and work. Was unlucky to be randkilled (?) by Twash early on. Nightcrawler is a nice character.

    7/10

    Neutrals:

    Got very lucky on Night One, but we thought his luck dried up later. However, Shade did not give up, and he contacted Junior, and got Serenity's name as a Superhero. After sparring with her target he got closer to completing his role. Unluckily for Shade, the Disney Force decided to kill him off for fun, and he failed to complete his role. Also, Bruce Lee was my second favourite character, and favourite role, in the entire game. This must have been a great role to play, posting restrictions are always funny.

    7/10

    Had a very good false claim (Harry Potter) which made him appear harmless to the mafia, as well as trusted by the village. Eventually it was noticed that there were too many villagers, and Twash was inspected. Still, he did well. A lot of his kills were double-targeted by the mafia as well. Also, the Satsui no Hadou thing meant he was immune from being killed or lynched during Night One, Day One, Night Two and Day Two. After this he was fully consumed with rage and he could die. We didn't want the wolf to die early, as then there would be too few kills. He lasted for a while on his own anyway. The 'hookers dying' only applied to Jack Bauer, Akuma was simply not affected by Mufasa or Wolverine. This was so mafia factions did not lose 1/4 of their team due to a random hook early game or something.

    7/10

    Awards

    Most Valuable Real Worlder - AceMatador.

    Played very well for his first game, successfully protecting Fishy the inspector from the mafia for many nights, and eventually dying an extremely heroic death. Well done!

    Most Valuable Superhero - Junior

    Did the majority of his teams planning, and was able to read Earthworms lies like a book. He was given access to a false spreadsheet, and he knew almost right away. Good game.

    Most Valuable Disney Character - Stoo

    Big Lion King Stoo made an expert false claim, and using a mixture of his raw power and dazzling finesse he worked his way into a position of authority in the Real World. He was able to pick off the most important Real World roles, and played a huge part in his teams victory.

    Best Troll - Jimbo

    There were only two contenders for best troll, Jimbo and Isy. Jimbo takes it as he transcended Isy's late game trolling of Fishy and pookar, with his early game hoax on the village. Many users posted THIS IS SPARTA!, Fishin even did so in French, under the impression that Jimbo would gain a kill. After he didn't get the kill he played it off cool. Should have been Iceman.

    Best False-claim - Isy

    Other contenders were Stoo (obviously) and Junior/Kumar. I think Isy's claim of Morpheus was better than Stoo's martyr claim, as it didn't clash with dak's necessary claim of Duke Nukem. Isy also made his very quickly, whilst under great pressure. Kumar and Junior made a great claim of Yulia and Lena, the t.A.T.u twins, but once Kumar died it also condemned junior, which is why Isy's was superior.

    Worst False-claim - LightWolf

    He made me write the dumbest role ever. It was like, Monkey D. Luffy, a pirate with stretchy arms. He was able to transform into different gears (???) as well as attack people with fruit. LightWolf I hope you were trolling me, that seriously was the most ridiculous thing ever.

    Least Valuable Player - Earthworm

    Decided to lead the village, but failed badly, lynching clean people, as well as causing godkills by rushing lynches. He also tried to abuse game mechanics, which backfired horribly, causing him to trust mafia users. Ended up being crushed under the boot of the Disney Force. Should have left Fishin in charge.

    Most Valuable Player - Stoo

    Reasons for Stoo's award have already been listed, I'm not gonna repeat them again. Truly a king amongst lions.


    Anyway, thanks for playing MAFIA FOREVER. I know you all enjoyed it ;) One day you may even see a sequel...
  2. Stoo

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    shade we didnt kill you for fun, we killed you because of the lynch vote incident and your general shadiness, don take it personally :(

    by general shadiness i mean the whole rev threatening to get dak to kill you, which i didnt believe for a second (which i now know to be true), and just the way you were acting, always making sure we werent killing you.

    (for those of you who are curious, the lynch vote incident was in the final lynch vote, where shade could have tied it by voting with rev and the village. he claimed he couldnt access smogon, only irc, so:

    [23:17:32] <WOOD> when your internet returns
    [23:17:34] <WOOD> view this
    [23:17:41] <WOOD> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50295
    [23:17:47] <Shade> ok
    [23:17:49] <WOOD> ive been perusing it
    [23:17:51] <WOOD> for sometime
    [23:17:54] <WOOD> pretty inetresting
    [23:18:42] <Shade> how does it regard mafia
    [23:18:42] <Shade> fuck
    [23:18:44] <Shade> im interested
    [23:18:49] <Shade> i hate internet
    [23:19:04] <WOOD> Last Activity: May 13th, 2009 11:18:38 PM
    [23:19:04] <WOOD> Viewing Thread Cursive: The Ugly Organ @ 11:18:38 PM
    [23:19:06] <WOOD> interesting
    [23:19:09] <WOOD> very inetresting
    [23:19:21] <Shade> yeah i clicked it
    [23:19:31] <WOOD> mmhmm
    [23:19:35] <Shade> nothing occurs
    [23:20:02] <WOOD> shade
    [23:20:03] <WOOD> go vote
    [23:20:05] <WOOD> or you will die
    [23:20:27] <Shade> fine then, i've been putting it off as i dont know what to do

    we figured better safe than sorry so jedil went and killed you mercilessly. fucking jedil.

    on a side note, thanks thunda and gmax :) this was a fun game, and i believe the first time ive won a game before!
  3. Isy

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    That Jimbo thing was amazing hahahahahaha
  4. Jimbo

    Jimbo take me anywhere
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    too bad you guys didn't pick other lines it would've been even cooler >:(
  5. GTS

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    Looks like a great game. I laughed irl at Jack Sparrow's night action command.
  6. CyzirVisheen

    CyzirVisheen Am I poplar yet?
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    Yeah, once Osama died I knew i was useless. Man, why'd the Terminator have to be such a gimped role ;_;
  7. blue_light

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    Screw you Disney Force for killing me Night 1, I did not even know there could be kills in the first night. Then again I did mess over 3/4 of the Disney Force in President mafia so it's okay.

    I had really hoped Fishin woild be able to use the info that I had gotten from Jedil and take him out impeach the lynch, but unfortunately that didn't happen.

    Thanks to Thunda and Gmax even though I didn't get to play much.
  8. Jedil

    Jedil FUCK TIGER

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    Yeah i have learned from this mafia. I am not going to talk when i am sleepy ^_^. also sorry blue_light i guess you can call it pay back for president mafia. but this is also my first mafia won. gg isy, stoo, and dakkers.

    also sorry shade but i wanted to avenge revvy!!
  9. Vampy34

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    OCTO FOREVER
  10. Earthworm

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    I guess I will explain stuff.

    I was instantly suspicious of Stoo from the start but his false claim managed to trick me very well. I wouldn't have trusted him enough to give him all information but I made a (stupid) decision to make him the one I would give all the information to in case I died. Also due to my false claiming other villagers suspected me from the start. It would have been better if I had been able to talk to Fishy more frequently as I had a fairly good idea about what had happened at that point. I knew Jedil was bad from the start due to his false claim being bad and I was quite suspicious of Isy too but because of the fake role PM writing thing I decided that he was trustworthy enough, but I worked out he was obviously bad when later in the game I PMed him requesting the PM he got from Thunda and he forwarded me a fake one with two words 'He moved' or something. I knew Dak wasn't Duke Nukem and due to not having found the inspector when I first talked to him I thought he might have been inspector at that point. I did rush to lynch Toothache because at the time the alternative was to No Lynch. iKitsune dying early was a huge annoyance but it was his first game and people can make stupid mistakes like that! Stoo did really well after the first time I talked to him about the game and did manage to gain my trust until I was getting suspicious of the roles that were dying at which point I removed him from the spreadsheet.

    I forgot completely about Fishin having to post so his death was partially my fault and I am sorry about that! I am also sorry about lynching Toothache based on LightWolf hookering him, that was a bad decision on my part obviously.

    I think I did OK after the terrible first couple of nights/days other than Fishin dying, I definitely would have done better if I didn't attempt to use the fake role PM writing thing to my advantage though. Lynching Twash was a bad decision but at the time I didn't realise who I was lynching due to Fishy and I's lack of communication.

    I basically suspected all the mafia of being fake or mafia other than Stoo and maybe Isy (not because of his role claim but because of the fake role PM thing) from the start (I would have suspected Isy more but I didn't talk to him much until the second time we talked) but it didn't help me much because we lost blue_light early and Stoo had successfully infiltrated. Stoo was the main reason we lost other than my mistakes and me being lynched for whatever reason but it was too late to do anything at that point.

    I don't think I deserved a 1/10 rating but whatever :pirate:

    Thanks for a great game Thunda and Gmax, and Congrats Disney Force!
  11. Fishin

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    I tried getting the village to contact me, but judging by the fact that the only ones to do so were Jimbo and Bluelight, I don't think any of them got the message, though with a role that could come off as suspicious so easily I guess that might've been for the best. Both my dying and forgetting about the fuck tiger claim were completely my mistakes. I think on the day I died I tried to think of a post right at the start, but couldn't come up with anything to post and decided to do it later, then I forgot and woke up dead. Overall pretty stupid of me, I wouldn't blame anyone else for it. Same thing with Jedil, it completely slipped my mind, though I wasn't really talking to anyone at that point anyways since I sort of doubted anyone would believe my role. My score should probably be a lot lower :x
  12. jumpluff

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    hahahaha jimbo

    gg everyones im proud of you. nice luckfuck but w/e, one of the most fun games in awhile and i wouldn't expect less from you two.

    p.s. sorry about killing you jimbo, you may blame earthworm hahahahhaa
  13. shade

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    fuck you disney force, i didn't lie about the threatening

    anyways, i was going to thank rev in a victory speech, but i suppose that has been dashed. but anyway, rev helped me in numerous ways and was an excellent sport when i lynched her. props to rev here.

    this was a cruel way to lose a mafia
  14. LightWolf

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    While I do think that I deserve my rating, but there are few things that I would like to point out.
    Ace newer got in contact with Fishy till I died, I was the one in cantact with Fishy and hiding her from EW, I did hide it from Ace too because he did the little mistake already to tell someone that he or I should get reported to when I asked him to keep our connection a secret. Also fooled Stoo a bit by making Ace say ok to him targeting Fishy and latter making him change the target, so he did not suspect Fishy being inspect then.

    Just wanted to clear that up
  15. twash

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    This was the mafia game I've had most fun in, so props to Thunda & gmax for running it so well, probably because I think I've done more lying in this game than any other.

    At the start I was just randkilling. I got in touch with Earthworm claiming Harry Potter (fake roles are below, by the way), and apparently there was a mishap and Earthworm started to think I was the bodyguard..I insisted I was not (it was not really a role I wanted to false claim), and then he kind of let slip that Ace Matador was:

    <Earthworm> jimbo says you're the bg (or i infer it from his statements)
    <Twash> erm
    <Twash> i havent spoken to jimbo...
    <Twash> [21:44:10] <Jimbo> Yo
    <Twash> [21:44:25] <Twash> [21:43:03] <Earthworm> jimbo says you're the bg (or i infer it from his statements)
    <Twash> [21:44:30] <Twash> mafia forever
    <Twash> [21:44:36] <Jimbo> lol I did not earthworm assumed
    <Twash> [21:44:36] <Twash> something you want to tell me? i havent even spoken to youu
    <Twash> ...
    <Earthworm> lol
    <Earthworm> i see
    <Twash> so
    <Twash> what's REALLY going on .-.
    <Twash> ...
    <Earthworm> never mind
    <Twash> no
    <Earthworm> he told me it was someone that posted
    <Twash> i do mind
    <Earthworm> but it was ace matador

    I kind of presumed Earthworm was using Ace Matador to trick me and see if he would die the next day, but obviously that was wrong...Later on in the game I thought Ace was the inspector (from the way he was talking & posting), but again I was wrong, but whatever. It was a really fun game, here are my fake roles:

    which developed into..

    Ironically, I actually went to Earthworm saying it had developed on the day of my lynch..but before the first lynch vote. Typically it didn't matter! I thought about using Avada Kedavra but obviously you have to be evil to use it etc.

    There was another role PM Earthworm made me make (lol pirates), but I didn't use it once so whatever!
  16. Toothache

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    Earthworm the worst player.

    That is all
  17. Stoo

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    not really, when he asked me to change the target any notions i had of fishy being suspected were gone, and dak role inspected her the night after (or maybe the night after that, i dont remember exactly when that happened) anyway and by that point we knew she was inspector

    we left ehr alive because a.) she couldnt ahrm us
    b.) we wanted her to inspect dak
    c.) if she inspected me, as she did, i was lynch protected anyway should things have gone wrong
  18. Isy

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    I forgot to post "THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU, DUCK" after wolverine died :(
  19. pookar

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    i took dak's vest and gave it to isy the regigigas
  20. az

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    hahahaha oh my god that was a great story
  21. 6A9 Ace Matador

    6A9 Ace Matador veni, vidi, vici, VERSACE, VERSACE VERSACE

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    Yay i got 8/10! =] Thank you for a very enjoyable first game Geemacks and Thunda!
  22. jonemere

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    Thanks for share this game.I like this game.
    Congratulations Easy Cure you played a great game.
    Great game everybody.I love it.You need to add the second.
  23. Mekkah

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    Thank you for your helpful Post.It helped me lots with this Game.You do not look like a Spambot at all.

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