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Mafia From the Depths - GAME OVER, INSANE WIN

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by Blue_Tornado, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. zorbees

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    Unlynch Metal Sonic
    Lynch Eagle4
  2. Empoof

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    Finally some action

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  3. Walrein

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    Oh I forgot

    sentry walrein because I trust myself more than El
  4. askaninjask

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    OK, you're doing random voting wrong.

    A lynch with literally no argument behind it is kind of stupid. As it is now a ton of users are getting one vote and they don't have to do anything about it. Now that some people have posted (and some people conspicuously haven't either due to purposeful idleness or time zone problems), you should have enough to go off of to make at least SOME kind of deductive argument against one user. Example:

    I think that it's probably a good idea that DLE gets protection, though it feels odd that he nominated himself for the job. Still, I think he's the "biggest" NOC name so he should probably get protection. I think that Walrein's attempt to move the sentry spot onto himself could easily be a ploy by the mafia team to get the sentry off of DLE.

    vote Walrein

    and sentry Da Letter El
  5. Blue_Tornado

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    Votecount 1.2 - Slow Start is a Terrible Ability

    Lynch:
    Walrein: (2) Da Letter El askaninjask
    Shining Latios: (2) Empoof Eagle4
    TPM: (1) Spiffy
    Spiffy: (1) Walrein
    askaninjask: (1) Jalmont
    Eagle4: (1) zorbees
    Metal Sonic: (0) zorbees
    Not Voting: (8) Shining Latios, LightWolf, Infinity.Cypher, More Cowbell, TPM, shinyskarmory, Metal Sonic.

    Sentry:
    Da Letter El: (4) Da Letter El zorbees Eagle4 askanjniask
    zorbees: (1) Jalmont
    Empoof: (1) Empoof
    Walrein: (1) Walrein
    Not Voting: (8) Shining Latios, LightWolf, Spiffy, Infinity.Cypher, More Cowbell, TPM, shinyskarmory, Metal Sonic.

    With 15 alives it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is in 113 hours, 10:00 PM GMT (midnight GMT+2).
  6. Walrein

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    Alternatively DLE's nominating of himself could be a mafia ploy as well.

    This is my logic:

    I have no proof that DLE is village.

    I know I am village.

    Therefore I would prefer a sentry vote on myself than a sentry vote on DLE.

    It's not even a final vote - I'll likely change it once I can get reads on people, but the fact is we haven't really done anything past the random voting stage and I don't trust ANYONE at this point.
  7. zorbees

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    Everybody knows that they are village (mafia fakeclaiming village ofc) so why should everyone vote for themselves and have nobody get the sentry?
  8. Walrein

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    This is true, and that's not what I'm suggesting at all. Like I said, I plan on voting for someone who I obtain a strong village read on. There's simply not enough info right now.
  9. LightWolf

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    Sentry LightWolf

    Because there is no wolf I got to be clean.
  10. Shining_Latios

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    Lynch Walrein
    Sentry Shining Latios
  11. Walrein

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    SL, care to explain your bandwagon vote?

    yes i realize who i'm dealing with but i still have to ask
  12. Metal Sonic

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    I hate the starting of NOCs... always confusion(nice flavor!)...

    Lynch Walrein

    Sentry Da Letter El


    *waits for actions to happen, bandwagoning in the meantime*
  13. Metal Sonic

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    Psst psst... Since DLE happens to be the 'best', or should I say, 'most popular' player in the game, Rand Sentrying him is in the town's odds(11/15)...

    Unless it just so happens to be unlucky and 4/15 chance of Insane Scum...

    But the chance of protecting a townie is as high as a Megahorn's accuracy, we can try our luck...
  14. More Cowbell

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    Going with the bandwagon for now;

    Lynch Walrein
    Sentry DLE
  15. Spiffy

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    Just because askaninjask lynches someone doesn't mean that everyone has to follow it without stating WHY they are actually doing it. Bandwagoning doesn't give you a free ride. Even saying something like "I agree with askaninjask" is better than "yeah ok let's bandwagon lol".

    More Cowbell: Out of everyone that has posted so far, which three players do you think are most likely mafia?
    If anyone else would like to answer that would be nice too!
  16. Metal Sonic

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    spiffy how the fuck are any of us going to think are mafia or not? nobody posted anything substantial yet?


    although good to know that you're getting the ball rolling

    sentry Spiffy
  17. More Cowbell

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    Well Spiffy, you said that we should at least randvote someone, and out of the people posting so far, Walrein seemed the most eager to jump onto the sentry position, which would be the most beneficial for a mafia member. I voted to sentry DLE because he, to me, is the most known mafia member and chances are 11/15 he is with village, so sentry-ing him is good for us.

    Really, these are just some first guesses, nobody has said anything majorly suspicious so far. What is your mafia top-3, Spiffy?
  18. Walrein

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    Are you even reading my posts?

    To clarify: THE SENTRY VOTE I HAVE PLACED ON MYSELF IS A PLACEHOLDER UNTIL I CAN GET A STRONG VILLAGE READ ON SOMEONE

    Th
  19. Walrein

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    Things I would like to see:

    Cowbell explaining wtf he meant when he said I seemed eager to be sentry, especially since IMO dle seems a hell of a lot more eager than I am.

    The other bandwagoners explaining why they bandwagoned, or some kind of contribution period other than "whee Walrein bandwagon"
  20. Walrein

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    Sorry for the triple post, but two of you have claimed that dle is a good choice because there is an 11/15 chance of him being village. While this is true, this is the case for anyone in the game, so I don't know how this helps your argument...

    Although I will agree, a village-aligned El is a good asset to have on the village.
  21. Blue_Tornado

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    Prodding Infinity.Cypher.

    I won't prod TPM because he hasn't been on since before the game started, but if he won't show up soon I'll replace him straight up.

    ~*~

    Votecount 1.3 - My Wagon, Your Wagon

    Lynch:
    Walrein: (5) Da Letter El askaninjask Shining Latios Metal Sonic More Cowbell
    Shining Latios: (2) Empoof Eagle4
    TPM: (1) Spiffy
    Spiffy: (1) Walrein
    askaninjask: (1) Jalmont
    Eagle4: (1) zorbees
    Metal Sonic: (0) zorbees
    Not Voting: (4) LightWolf, Infinity.Cypher, TPM, shinyskarmory

    Sentry:
    Da Letter El: (5) Da Letter El zorbees Eagle4 askanjniask Metal Sonic More Cowbell
    zorbees: (1) Jalmont
    Empoof: (1) Empoof
    Walrein: (1) Walrein
    LightWolf: (1) LightWolf
    Shining Latios: (1) Shining Latios
    Spiffy: (1) Metal Sonic
    Not Voting: (4) Spiffy, Infinity.Cypher, TPM, shinyskarmory

    With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is in 102 hours, 10:00 PM GMT (midnight GMT+2).
  22. zorbees

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    Unlynch Eagle4
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    somewhat experienced user who is not contributing at all, yet has been somewhat active.

    I'm still a bit suspect of walrein but I'd like to see another option get explored as well
  23. More Cowbell

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    Much like your own votes, Walrein, mine are just temporary as well. I just threw something around; there's nearly 4 more days before our final votes need to be in, so I'll almost certainly will vote someone else by then. Much like anyone, chances are highest that you are village; this is just a temporary thing. Nothing to get wound up about.
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    Unvote

    vote metal sonic

    Hey buddy

    While I appreciate that you agree that walrein is a member of the icp, I must say that I find you to be quite a suspicious fellow! What say you to this?
  25. Empoof

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    Fair enough.

    Feels weird to sentry DLE when his first post about it was a joke... unless I misread it. But now that we've made a fuss over it we're almost forced to.

    Sketchy people:
    Eagle4 - Trying to slip by, getting things over quickly and quietly. He didn't even bother randvoting, just going with what the last post was (my vote).

    Metal Sonic - sadly i agree with DLE here (damn you), but this:
    is a pretty bad cop-out for not even trying to look at anything. Moreso his tone is rash and eccentric, i didn't like it. Along with listing accuracy's as reasoning, meh. Idunno i just really didn't like his tone shift and logical fallacies.

    Walrein - I guess i have to talk about him since there are 5 votes on him. He's clambering to make sure he doesn't die D1. Seems to have started from askaninjask saying the DLE is the best sentry vote (and everyone else is trash ^^), and since walrein voted himself instead of DLE he is trying to lean the vote away from him. I don't really think it's reasonable to assume he's mafia from that. It's good that he's trying to prod reasonings from people, but like Metal Sonic i didn't like his tone. But I know walrein a little better and that's kind of how he reacts regardless (sorry bud).
    so tl;dr not village but not full scum. I feel MS is more scummy atm.

    I'm not gonna change my vote yet, seeing as SL hasn't really done much :/ but I'm open to suggestion. And scummy moves.

    k

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