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Pokémon Malamar
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Water 1 and 2 iirc
Yes, but they don't have access to Sucker Punch this gen.
If it's in the water egg groups, and unless one of the newer pokemon get it, I don't see it being possible until Pokémon Bank comes out.
Which possible fathers would we have when Pokémon Bank comes out?
Huntail, Lanturn, and Corsola have been mentioned. Give me a moment to look for the rest.
EDIT: Can you GET Ekans? If so, that's a long chain, and we'd need to check Skrelp as well.
EDIT 2: Just those three. They are the only water types to get the move by Gen5, and the only non water types in the Water 1 and Water 2 groups (which, according to Bulbapedia, Inkay and Malimar are in) are them and the Dratini family in 1.
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Ekans is in the dragon egg group so there's no need for a Druddigon.
That is what Im testing, the new pokemon on both his groups to check if their other groups can pass a sucker punch or if they learn.
i just tested the ekans>skrelp and unluckily skrelp doesnt get sucker punch from ekans.
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I have so much hope for this guy to become OU. With Hammer Arm, we can get a solution to the speed issues, while Superpower might make it worthwhile to invest on SpD and make something like a Bulk Up Scrafty. Or is it viable to run both attacks in a single set?
Also, waiting for Sucker Punch!
Also, waiting for Sucker Punch!
ContraRussia (Malamar) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 128 Spe / 252 HP / 128 Atk or 4 Spe / 252 HP / 252 Atk (if the foe is not speed-invested)
Careful/Jolly nature
- Night Slash
- Psycho Cut
- Superpower
- Rock Slide
...le reaction when Malamar steps le Sticky Web.
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Notes: (help me with some of yours)
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Intimidators (except something like U-Turn Staraptor);
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Sticky Webs;
-Any one doing Baby-Doll Eyes or Charm threads? ...Contrarussian Malamar loves them too;
-Contrarussian Malamar hates Fairies and Bugs very much (Bugs need to be squashed with RockSlide);
-Contrarussian Malamar hates SWAGG, since all that Swagger lowers it's attack along with JustinBieber makes it very confused;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Acid Spray;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves King's Shield;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Parting Shot;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves things like Icy Wind, Bulldoze and Low Sweep;
-Contrarussian Malamar hates Unaware Quagsire;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Memento... to nuke next turn;
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Ability: Contrary
EVs: 128 Spe / 252 HP / 128 Atk or 4 Spe / 252 HP / 252 Atk (if the foe is not speed-invested)
Careful/Jolly nature
- Night Slash
- Psycho Cut
- Superpower
- Rock Slide
...le reaction when Malamar steps le Sticky Web.
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Notes: (help me with some of yours)
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Intimidators (except something like U-Turn Staraptor);
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Sticky Webs;
-Any one doing Baby-Doll Eyes or Charm threads? ...Contrarussian Malamar loves them too;
-Contrarussian Malamar hates Fairies and Bugs very much (Bugs need to be squashed with RockSlide);
-Contrarussian Malamar hates SWAGG, since all that Swagger lowers it's attack along with JustinBieber makes it very confused;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Acid Spray;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves King's Shield;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Parting Shot;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves things like Icy Wind, Bulldoze and Low Sweep;
-Contrarussian Malamar hates Unaware Quagsire;
-Contrarussian Malamar loves Memento... to nuke next turn;
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It does learn Rock Slide via TM.
Maybe a SpDefensive set could be usefull?
Malamar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 244 SDef / 12 Spd
Careful Nature
Maybe not for singles, but doubles ou triples..
Malamar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 244 SDef / 12 Spd
Careful Nature
Maybe not for singles, but doubles ou triples..
So if the opponent is speed invested (which it will most likely be) Would the way to go nature be Jolly to take advantage of contrary+sticky web? or could careful work too?
EDIT:I did some calculations (i'm extremely new at this so i'm very sorry if this is wrong) but the 128 speed EV spread won't be enough to outspeed a speed invested galvantula unless our Malamar jolly one.
With max IVs and your EV investment in speed for a careful Malamar he'd be at 214 speed + 50% of the stage lowering sticky web (again i'm sorry if i'm wrong here) that would take him to 321 speed while Galvantula sits at 346.
EDIT2: After some more calculations i think 196-200 EVs in speed for the careful nature Malamar would be enough to outspeed galvantula with max investment in speed (+speed nature included). Also please note i used the base stats found in serebii's Pokedex again i'm sorry if this is all wrong.
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On Showdown Malamar has a base speed of 70 and hits 228 speed at 252+ and 342 with a scarf . Galvantula max+ has 346 speed. So scarf Malamar can outspeed Modest Galvantula (assuming it's not scarfed of course) but not Timid. I don't think base stats are confirmed yet though, so if Malamar does end up being slightly faster, it will outspeed Galvantula when it's scarfed.
Malamar a.k.a. Spinda 2.0
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