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Manaphy (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Megan_Fox, Oct 4, 2010.

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  1. Megan_Fox

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    Manaphy

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    [Overview]
    • Access to Tail Glow and Calm Mind
    • Needs rain to function to full potential where its Surf is Stabbed along with the benefits from Hydration
    • 100 Base Speed, this allows it to outpace all base 90s (Kyogre, groudon, Reshiram, Zekrom etc) and tie Palkia, Salamence etc.
    • Hydration (allows it to heal to Max HP in the Rain and also prevents it from being hit by any status move
    [SET]
    name: Tail Glow Sweeper
    move 1: Tail Glow
    move 2: Rest
    move 3: Surf
    move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Set Description:

    • Tail Glow now boosts +3 SpA
    • Hydration allows it to heal to Max HP in the Rain and also prevents it from being hit by any status move
    • Ice Beam to hit dragons who resist
    • Leftovers is the main option since your already boosting to a bolstering +3
    Additional Comments:

    • Grass Knot to hit Kyogre who walls this set otherwise
    • Life Orb to Maximize Damage
    Teammates & Counters:

    • Kyogre can come in and Thunder while Manaphy Can do nothing (assuming GK isnt being run)
    • Groudon adds sunlight to the field but is OHKO'd by a boosted Ice Beam
    • Birijion can come in and Leaf Blade to KO
    • Kyogre is required for this set to be efficient, the rain it provides allows Manaphy to function without worry of Status and heal
    • Wobbuffet can give a free set up opportunity while trapping Choices Mons locked into Thunder
    [SET]
    name: Bulky Calm Mind
    move 1: Calm Mind
    move 2: Rest
    move 3: Surf
    move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Hydration
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

    Set Description:

    • A more defensive approach to sweeping, HP is Maximized in order to take hits as effiecient as possible while Max speed allows it to outpace Rayquaza and unscarfed base 100s
    • Bulk lets it take attacks and set up multiple CM's as you rest in the rain to recover any damage lost
    Additional Comments:

    • Grass Knot for Kyogre
    Teammates & Counters:

    • Kyogre can come in and Thunder while Manaphy Can do nothing (assuming GK isnt being run)
    • Groudon adds sunlight to the field but is OHKO'd by a boosted Ice Beam
    • Birijion can come in and Leaf Blade to KO
    • Kyogre is required for this set to be efficient, the rain it provides allows Manaphy to function without worry of Status and heal
    • Wobbuffet can give a free set up opportunity while trapping Choices Mons locked into Thunder
    [Team Options]

    • Kyogre is required for this set to be efficient, the rain it provides allows Manaphy to function without worry of Status and heal
    • Wobbuffet can give a free set up opportunity while trapping Choices Mons locked into Thunder
    • Garchomp is immune to electric attacks so it can switch into Electric attacks aimed at Manaphy
    [Optional Changes]

    • Can Run a Toxic Stalling set. With hydration healing you, Manaphy is capable of toxic stalling. An EV spread of 252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 SpA is optimal with Toxic / Surf / Rest / Ice Beam
    • Bulkier Tail Glow Spread. This can allow Manaphy to take hits easier at the cost of less damage output
    [Counters]

    • Scarfed Pokemon that pack Thunder (Kyogre, Palkia)
    • Kyogre can come in and Thunder while Manaphy Can do nothing (assuming GK isnt being run).
    • Groudon adds sunlight to the field but is OHKO'd by a boosted Ice Beam
    • Birijion and Shaymin-s can come in and use their respective Grass STABs to KO
    [Dream World]

    • Manaphy does not have a Dream World ability
  2. Rising_Dusk

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    Please elaborate on the descriptions here. Do not just list "Groudon" as a counter, tell the reader why Groudon is a counter. I recognize that these are bullet point analyses and meant to be short, but they are also meant to be informative. You may want to scan your other past few analyses and check that they don't fall into this trap either. Thanks.
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    Fixed an issue with the link at the top not working, but otherwise looks great now. Thanks a lot! Marked as done.
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    My two cents:

    - TG/Wacan +3 Attacks Manaphy is actually really good now, since it has the power to mow down its counters at +3. Stuff like Choice Scarf Palkia is now OHKOed by Grass Knot while Thunder does OHKO in return. Scarf Dialga takes 70-80% from +3 Surf, so it's OHKOed after some prior damage. Something like:

    Manaphy @ Wacan Berry
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Tail Glow
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Grass Knot

    - Mention Boil Over (Boiling Water) on the CM set?? Getting a burn on the opponent is always cool, especially when you're building up Calm Minds
  5. trickroom

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    Zekrom OHKOes Manaphy easily so it should be mentioned as a counter. If you lack Ice Beam and use Grass Knot, Zekrom isn't OHKOed by anything. Scarf Zekrom revenge kills even the bulkiest of Manaphy with Lightning Strike.

    EDIT: analysis is outdated. The new one is taken over by user Mooo in this link
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    Taken over by another. Locking.
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