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Manectric (BW2 Update) [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

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    [Overview]

    <p>RU is not short of Electric-types and Manectric is one of the better ones out there. Sporting great coverage with solid Special Attack and Speed, Manectric is able to threaten defensive and offensive teams alike. Manectric is one of very few Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill +2 Omastar and +1 Lilligant without too many issues. Utility moves in the form of Volt Switch and Switheroo only augment Manectric's ability to wield Choice items effectively. Manectric is also blessed with a great ability in Lightningrod. Thanks to this ability, Manectric is capable of not only absorbing Electric-type moves like Volt Switch and Thunder Wave but is also capable of sweeping thanks to the Special Attack boost granted if Lightningrod is activated.</p>

    <p>However, Manectric does have some issues to overcome in RU. Although it has high Special Attack and Speed, Manectric's defenses are meager and can even make switching into a defensive threat like Lanturn a bit of a risk. Manectric's lack of usable resistances and immunities only magnifies this problem. While Electric / Fire / Grass coverage is still very good, it is now flawed with Druddigon being such a common threat. Although Manectric can utilize Hidden Power Ice to navigate past Druddigon, this would open it up to Rhydon, thus leaving quite the difficult choice when it comes to choosing a Hidden Power type. While Manectric may not be the best Electric-type in the tier, it is certainly a threat you need to be ready for.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Manectric has all of the qualities necessary to be a solid Choice Scarf user. Equipped with a momentum-building move, Switcheroo, and the ability to revenge kill serious threats that few other Choice Scarf users can, Manectric is the best example of an "insurance" Pokemon for offensive teams to use. Volt Switch is a great move for any Choice item user and Manectric is no different. Volt Switch allows Manectric to build or maintain offensive momentum while scouting for possible checks and counters. Overheat is an incredibly useful tool for Manectric as it OHKOes +1 Lilligant, something almost no other Choice Scarf user can do without taking a hit first. Thunderbolt is a great cleaning move for Manectric and it also allows it to use a STAB move and stay on the field if the need arises. Switcheroo rounds out the set and allows Manectric to cripple an opposing wall that it might have difficulty beating otherwise, such as Cryogonal or Clefable.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Lightningrod should always be used as it grants Manectric an immunity to all Electric-type moves, including Thunder Wave. The resulting Special Attack boost can even aid a possible late-game sweep. Hidden Power Grass can be used to deal with Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but both are quite rare and Golurk is hit just as hard by Overheat. Hidden Power Ice is an option if Druddigon is really annoying you, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Flamethrower can be used over Overheat if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot, and if you don't like the Special Attack drop that is caused by Overheat. However, you must be wary that Flamethrower misses the OHKO on +1 Lilligant, a major target that Manectric can KO with Overheat.</p>

    <p>As mentioned previously, Manectric is more of an "insurance" Pokemon to use when threats get out of control, so it doesn't require a lot of support to function at optimal capacity. Manectric has a hard time with Druddigon, as even Switcheroo will only limit Druddigon's effectiveness. For this reason, Steel-types such as Aggron and Escavalier make for good partners to sponge its powerful Dragon-type attacks while immediately threatening Druddigon with their STAB moves. Rapid Spin support is welcome as it will let Manectric use Volt Switch with much more freedom. Kabutops fits the bill nicely as it can lure in Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch in on. Cryogonal isn't bad either as it's immune to Ground-type moves, but it does struggle against the most common spinblocker in the tier, Spiritomb. Mesprit is a solid partner, in particular its Choice Specs set. Mesprit is immune to Ground-type moves and can quickly weaken the special walls that may try to stop Manectric from revenge killing or going on a late-game sweep with Choice Specs-boosted Psyshocks. Manectric also functions well on VoltTurn teams. Braviary, Rotom-C, Eelektross, and the aforementioned Mesprit can all use either Volt Switch or U-turn if you choose to use a VoltTurn core.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set aims to capitalize on Manectric's great coverage and solid Speed to turn it into a wallbreaker that can still pose a legitimate sweeping threat with its base 105 Speed and Special Attack. Volt Switch is Manectric's main STAB move on this set as it allows Manectric to scout out how the opponent wants to play against it, thus giving you an advantage the next time Manectric comes in. Flamethrower is used for its consistency and lack of Special Attack drops. It allows Manectric to easily get past the likes of Ferroseed, Steelix, and Tangrowth, all of which may come in to take Manectric's Electric-type STAB moves. Thunderbolt provides Manectric with a reliable STAB move that allows it to stay in and clean up late-game when the chance arises. In the last slot, a Hidden Power type needs to be chosen. Due to how common Druddigon is, Hidden Power Ice is generally preferred to allow Manectric to 2HKO all but specially defensive variants of Druddigon. However, Hidden Power Grass is an option to OHKO Rhydon, a serious threat that can easily demolish Manectric otherwise.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The item choice is a tough one, but the ability to switch moves with Expert Belt is generally preferred. Choice Specs is still a solid option for the significant power boost Manectric gains, especially on bulkier targets it can't hit for super effective damage, such as Uxie, Spiritomb, and Mesprit. Life Orb might seem like a middle ground of sorts, but it wears down Manectric way too quickly. Overheat and Switcheroo are two options to consider if you use Choice Specs. Overheat can destroy Cryogonal, but it has little use outside of that. Switcheroo can cripple walls, but Manectric can just as easily use Expert Belt, or even Life Orb, to break them down with its great coverage.</p>

    <p>This set is one of the best Regenerator core killers in the entire tier, so Pokemon that appreciate not having to deal with these types of Pokemon are great teammates. Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei enjoy having Slowking and Alomomola removed from play so they can use their powerful STAB moves with more freedom. Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, draws in Electric-type moves, and enjoys not having to deal with Tangrowth and Ferroseed. Fighting-types such as Gallade and Hitmonlee are more than capable of taking out Clefable and Cryogonal, which can open the door for Manectric to sweep late-game. Rhydon can be a pretty big pain for this set if Manectric lacks Hidden Power Grass, so having something that can take its powerful moves can be helpful. For this reason, Torterra can be a pretty solid partner as it resists Ground-type moves and it appreciates having Tangrowth removed since it matches up well against most other defensive Pokemon in the tier. Manectric still performs well on VoltTurn teams, so pairing it with Pokemon such as Braviary and Mesprit can be worthwhile. Braviary appreciates Manectric's ability to remove most Steel-type Pokemon while Choice Specs Mesprit can easily break down special walls, such as Clefable and Lanturn, with its STAB Psyshock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Manectric doesn't have a very wide movepool, but there are a few options to look at. Discharge and Charge Beam are alternative STAB moves that Manectric can use. Discharge has a better paralysis rate and Charge Beam can boost Manectric's Special Attack, but the utility of Volt Switch and reliable power of Thunderbolt is generally preferred. Thunder Wave can cripple faster threats, but Manectric is usually being met with more defensive Pokemon that can tank some of its attacks. Manectric has Howl to boost its Attack along with Wild Charge, the elemental fangs, and Crunch, but its base 75 Attack is mediocre at best. Light Screen can cushion special attacks for Manectric and its team, but even then, Manectric will still be taking serious damage from most powerful special attackers.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The best answers to Manectric are Clefable and Lanturn. Clefable is able to avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Thunderbolt while Lanturn only fears the odd Choice Specs-boosted Hidden Power Grass. Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous can switch in on the Electric- and Fire-type moves Manectric commonly carries and deal major damage with their powerful STAB moves. However, both need to be careful of a possible Hidden Power Ice. Rhydon is in a similar boat in that it can take on any Manectric lacking Hidden Power Grass as Eviolite sets can avoid the 2HKO from Hidden Power Ice, but a Switcheroo can quickly limit its defensive capabilities. Offensive Pokemon that have good special bulk, such as Gallade and Bouffalant, are good checks, as they can tank any hit and KO back with their powerful STAB moves. Entei is able to take on Manectric decently well as it can use its STAB Flare Blitz or a powerful ExtremeSpeed to hit Manectric hard. Rotom resists Manectric's STAB moves and it can use a STAB Shadow Ball to deal significant damage to Manectric. Golurk isn't OHKOed by a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Priority moves are another way to deal with Manectric as its meager defenses means it will take quite a bit of damage from most of them. Absol and Spiritomb are able to use Sucker Punch and both can even Pursuit Manectric if it decides to switch out. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee can hit hard with STAB Mach Punch. Hitmonchan's is backed by a Life Orb and Iron Fist, while Hitmonlee's will usually be powered up with a Fighting Gem. However, keep in mind that Manectric can simply use Volt Switch as these threats come in, thus making it difficult to revenge kill Manectric in this manner. Cryogonal is a great answer to the Choice Scarf set, but it has a much harder time with the special attacker set. Speaking of the special attacker, it is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, and most other Choice Scarf users in the tier. If all else fails, you can use your own Electivire or Manectric to take advantage of possible Volt Switches and Thunderbolts to gain a Speed or Special Attack boost to try and sweep. However, you must take caution in going this route, because neither Pokemon is able to handle Manectric's coverage moves very well.</p>

    Skeleton (open)
    [Overview]

    • Solid choice for an Electric-type in RU
    • Great Electric+Fire coverage lets it take on many common defensive cores
    • High Speed and Special Attack serve it well in the special sweeping role
    • Fastest common Scarfer as it can effortlessly revenge kill +2 Omastar, something few others can accomplish
    • Utility moves in Volt Switch and Switcheroo make it a great Choice item user
    • Good ability in Lightningrod as it can absorb Volt Switches to completely swing momentum and possibly sweep with boosted Special Attack
    • Really frail and no notable resistances or immunities outside of Electric-type moves makes even switching into something like Lanturn a bit of a risk
    • Popularity of Druddigon hurts as it resists the once amazing Electric+Fire+Grass coverage Manectric is/was known for
    • Must now choose between Druddigon and Lanturn with its Hidden Power
    • Has to compete with Rotom-C and Galvantula, but possesses better overall coverage than these two
    • Maybe not the best Electric-type anymore, but still a worthy addition to any team thanks to its coverage, power, and Speed.

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Great Speed. Great Special Attack. STAB Volt Switch. Obvious Choice Scarf candidate.
    • With a Choice Scarf, Manectric outspeeds +2 Omastar, +1 Lilligant, and p. much every other common threat seen in RU.
    • May lack the raw power or bulk of other Scarf users like Emboar, Braviary, and Rotom-C, but it’s still a reliable revenge killer
    • Volt Switch to grab momentum and scout for possible checks and counters
    • Overheat OHKOes +1 Lilligant and smothers any other Grass-type hoping to take minimal damage from Volt Switch
    • Thunderbolt gives a reliable cleaning move
    • Switcheroo cripples walls such as Roselia and Clefable that Manectric has a hard time getting around

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    • Do I really need to explain the EV spread? Lol
    • Lightningrod because Manectric’s other abilities suck and nabbing a Special Attack boost from stray Electric-type moves can aid a late-game sweep
    • HP Grass to revenge stuff like Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but they're rare and Overhead does as much to Golurk as HP Grass.
    • HP Ice if Druddigon is really a bother, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Generally better to wear it down by repeatedly Volt Switching into a check or counter
    • Flamethrower can be used if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot. Fails to OHKO +1 Lilligant which is a big target for Manectric to hit
    • Don’t think of how to support Manectric. Think of how it can support your team
    • Of the few forms of support Manectric directly wants, Rapid Spin is a big one to allow more freedom with Volt Switch
    • Kabutops is perfect as it can lure Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch-in on
    • Cryogonal isn’t bad either considering it’s immune to Ground-type moves
    • Choice Specs Mesprit is a cool parnter as it can use Psyshock to lure in and remove special walls that may hinder Manectric’s revenge killing and late-game sweeping attempts
    • Manectric is great on VoltTurn teams
    • Rotom-C, Eelektross, and Rotom are good Volt Switch users
    • Braviary, Swellow, and the aforementioned Mesprit can all utilize U-turn nicely. The birds draw in Electric-type moves for Manectric as well

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Utilizes Manectric’s great coverage and Speed to break common defensive cores and still pose a sweeping threat
    • Can better utilize Lightningrod boosts thanks to the ability to switch moves when using Expert Belt
    • Volt Switch to scout for checks and counters
    • Flamethrower gets Tangrowth, Amoonguss, and Steelix
    • Thunderbolt provides a reliable STAB move and allows Manectric to sweep late-game
    • Hidden Power choice really comes down to two threats: Catch Druddigon or Lanturn?
    • HP Ice preferred to nail Druddigon and to retain power on Rhydon
    • If your team struggles with Rhydon, HP Grass is viable to swiftly KO it.
    • Also allows Manectric to have a fighting chance against Lanturn

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    • You want to hit hard and fast. Hint the EV spread that’s used
    • Expert Belt is preferred to let Manectric break down defensive cores more easily
    • Choice Specs gives a sizable power boost for getting past threats like Uxie and Cryogonal
    • Life Orb is a middle ground, but really wears Manectric down quickly
    • Overheat with Choice Specs to absolutely nuke Cryogonal. Flamethrower is generally better though
    • Switcheroo with Choice Specs to cripple walls. Generally better to go with Expert Belt or even Life Orb if you feel you want to give away Specs.
    • One of the best Regenerator core killers in the tier, so Pokemon that like having one or both parts of these types of cores removed are great teammates
    • Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei thrive when Slowking and Alomomola are out of the picture
    • Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, lures Electric-type moves, and can possibly sweep with Tangrowth and Amoonguss out of the way
    • Mixed Samurott with Superpower can destroy Clefable and Cryogonal to open up the door for Manectric to sweep and it draws in Electric-type attacks as well
    • VoltTurn cores as this set still utilizes Volt Switch rather effectively
    • Braviary and Swellow get special mentions for Manectric’s ability to deal with common Steel- and Rock-type Pokemon
    • Choice Specs Mesprit is another as it can use Psyshock to take out the likes of Clefable and Lanturn with relative ease

    [Other Options]
    • Discharge
    • Charge Beam
    • Hone Claws and various physical moves (Wild Charge, Ice Fang, etc.)
    • Thunder Wave
    • Light Screen

    [Checks and Counters]

    • Lanturn. Only Specs HP Grass has a chance of 2HKOing it (even then, it’s less than a 10% chance with SR)
    • Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous if there’s no HP Ice
    • Rhydon deals with any Manectric lacking HP Grass
    • Clefable is good as it even avoids the 2HKO from Specs Thunderbolt
    • Offensive mons with good special bulk; Gallade and Bouffalant are solid examples as they aren’t weak to any of Manectric’s common moves
    • Entei deals with Manectric’s coverage moves well and can tank a Thunderbolt if need be; has Flare Blitz and Espeed to deal with Manectric
    • Golurk avoids the OHKO from a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake
    • Any priority move will deal serious damage to Manectric due to its frailty
    • Absol and Spiritomb are good Sucker Punch users
    • Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan have Mach Punch. Lee’s is usually boosted by Fighting Gem while Hitmonchan’s has more punch thanks to Iron Fist
    • Note that Manectric can simply Volt Switch as these priority users try to come in
    • Cryogonal beats the Scarf set handily
    • Special Attacker is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, Aerodactyl, and most Scarf users
    • If all else fails, you can use Electivire or a Manectric of your own to benefit from Manectric’s Volt Switches and Thunderbolts
    • Be careful as neither takes Manectric’s coverage moves very well at all
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2013
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    I'll check this more thoroughly sometime tomorrow, but I have 2 set related things at the moment
    • Hidden Power Grass on Choice Scarf should be regulated to AC. Due to the raw power of Overheat it does the same to Golurk as Hidden Power Grass, not to mention its rare. That literally leaves you with only Rhydon who is pretty useless with a Choice Scarf anyway (Switcheroo), and Rock Polish is such a rare set honestly. I would very rarely consider it over Thunderbolt.
    • On the second set you say that Switcheroo should only be used with Choice Specs. If this is the case make them separate sets because they would play differently as a result. Generally if the sets use identical moves its OK, but when Specs has a move that goes only with it, this isn't a reason to combine them.
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    Ok, main reason I left Switcheroo on when I posted the skeleton is because I hadn't quite finished testing out Specs. Honestly, I never found myself wanting to give up the Specs, and when I did, I just went to Expert Belt and did just fine. That said, I'm going to move Switcheroo to AC of the Special Attacker set.

    Also, moved HP Grass to AC on the Scarf set. I was already kinda on the fence about it, but S-R kinda confirmed my thoughts on it as a whole.
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    I'm no QC or something, you know that, but my [noobish perhaps? maybe...] nitpicks

    [Scarf]

    Yes, it can support the team, but how? All I see are mentions of nice, yet not required support that Manectric appreciates. I'm not really in the brain state to list specific Pokemon right now, but consider this.

    Manectric's Attack isn't high enough to be worth anything, that kind of stuff is better left off done by Eelektross, Electivire (oooo I said it X_X), etc.
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    okay time for me to look at this... i may have missed something but i want to get this stuff posted at least

    [Special Attacker]
    • Hidden Power Grass also gets Rhydon
    • If that's the only thing its doing you could just use a Fighting-type Pokemon...
    [Checks and Counters]
    • Add Rhydon - without HP Grass Manectric is kinda helpless.
    • Add Zweilous - it walls it pretty badly and OHKOs it. Dragons in general are good answers tbh
    • Emboar is a lot worse at dealing with Manectric than Entei tbh. It gets worn down just as easily, but it has the disadvantage of not getting Extreemespeed.
    • Remove the Aqua Jet users. 252 Atk Life Orb Kabutops (+Atk) Aqua Jet vs 0 HP/0 Def Manectric: 46.26% - 54.45% (2-3 hits to KO), this requires a lot of prior damage and Manectric is so frail that I'd be surprised if it was at 50%. That and Manectric obviously OHKOs it - its not really worth it. I'm fine with the Mach Punch users as they are stronger and also have a decent special defense, one good enough to even take a Specs Thunderbolt (252 SpAtk Choice Specs Manectric Thunderbolt vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Hitmonchan: 77.18% - 90.87% (2 hits to KO) isn't by much, but its better than Samurott and Kabutops). You're going to have to also specify that priority doesn't work if Manectric is using Volt Switch constantly (so you cannot RK it)
    • ...which is pretty much all of them. Even then, Volt Switch still hurts and Manectric will be using that 80% of the time. They also hate getting a Scarf attatched to them. And then E-belt and Specs destroy them. Remove this point.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2013
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    Sorry about the delay, but I think I got all the changes you mentioned Swamp-Rocket . As long as I haven't missed anything, this should be ready for QC checks now.
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    QC Approved 1/3
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    add rotom-n in C&C, resist stab volt & tbolt, neutral against the rest of stuff while that is inmunity to Spikes.
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    I know you think Choice Scarf Manectric is weaker than it was before, but honestly, I really feel that you should mention that the Choice Scarf set is honestly just the best "insurance" Pokemon in the tier. It's speed, typing, and coverage all let it handily answer almost every single threat in the tier to some degree, and while it can't really switch into things like Rotom-C / Emboar can, it's ability to revenge kill and check so many things is something that really needs to be mentioned a bit more imo. Otherwise:

    QC APPROVED 2/3
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    In the second set I'm still not really keen on Mixed Samurott with Superpower because Swords Dance Samurott is a thing that Clefable and Cryogonal hate dealing with anyway and Megahorn is a lot better than Superpower most of the time. LO Kabutops can OHKO both of them at +2, and Lum Berry variants (because T-Wave is annoying) almost OHKOs 252/0 Clefable at +2. I think its a better way to support it mainly because Samurott will have to change its typical mixed set (Superpower isn't bad, its just worse than Megahorn) in order to deal with them, while Kabutops just wins regardless + is already on there for support. Kabutops is also a lot more common and in general useful (Samurott isn't bad by any means, but Kabutops is better to suggest, partly because its in RU and Samurott is not)

    Also because I'm slow I was beaten to the second approval
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    Thanks for the checks Molk and SV. This is written and ready for its final QC check.

    Implemented SV's changes with the Scarf set in writeup and replaced Mixed Samurott with Fighting-types in the writeup of the Special Attacker. Otherwise, everything is fairly similar to the skeleton.
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    Add the <p> tags plz
    • Explain why you would even bother considering Discharge or Charge Beam (ie the merits that they have)
    • Its probably worth mentioning Eviolite Rhydon can avoid a 2HKO from HP Ice on occasion when mentioning it in the second set.
    Look good otherwise!

    QC Approved 3/3

    EDIT: Manectric DOES NOT get Hone Claws. Replace it with Howl.
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    Implemented all of S-R's check (including the Hone Claws bit. Not sure why I even thought Manectric could learn HC tbh...) Have at it GP!
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    [Overview]

    <p>RU is not short on Electric-types and Manectric is one of the better ones out there. Sporting great coverage with solid Special Attack and Speed, Manectric is able to threaten defensive and offensive teams alike. Manectric is one of very few Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill +2 Omastar and +1 Lilligant without too many issues. Utility moves in the form of Volt Switch and Switheroo only augment Manectric's ability to wield Choice items effectively. Manectric is also blessed with a great ability in Lightningrod. Thanks to this ability, Manectric is capable of not only absorbing Electric-type moves like Volt Switch and Thunder Wave but also simultaneously threatening to sweep thanks to the Special Attack boosted granted it when Lightningrod is activated.</p>

    <p>However, Manectric does have some issues to overcome in RU. Although it has high Special Attack and Speed, Manectric's defenses are meager and can even make switching into a defensive threat like Lanturn a bit of a risk. Manectric's lack of usable resistances and immunities only magnifies this problem. While Electric / Fire / Grass coverage is still very good, it is now flawed with Druddigon being such a common threat. Although Manectric can utilize Hidden Power Ice to navigate past Druddigon, this would open it up to Rhydon, thus leaving quite the difficult choice when it comes to choosing a Hidden Power type. Manectric may not be the best Electric-type in the tier, but it is certainly a threat you need to be ready for.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Manectric has all of the qualities necessary to be a solid Choice Scarf user. Equipped with a momentum-building move, Switcheroo, and the ability to revenge kill serious threats that few other Choice Scarf users can, Manectric is the best example of an "insurance" Pokemon for offensive teams to use. Volt Switch is a great move for any Choice item user and Manectric is no different. Volt Switch allows Manectric to build or maintain offensive momentum while scouting for possible checks and counters. Overheat is an incredibly useful tool for Manectric as it OHKOes +1 Lilligant, something almost no other Choice Scarf user can do without taking a hit first. Thunderbolt is a great cleaning move for Manectric and it also allows it to use a STAB move and stay on the field if the need arises. Switcheroo rounds out the set and allows Manectric to cripple an opposing wall that it may might have difficulty beating otherwise, such as Cryogonal or Clefable.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Lightningrod should always be used the ability as it grants Manectric an immunity to all Electric-type moves, including Thunder Wave. The resulting Special Attack boost can even aid a possible late-game sweep. Hidden Power Grass can be used to deal with Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but both are quite rare and Golurk is hit just as hard by Overheat. Hidden Power Ice is an option if Druddigon is really annoying you, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Flamethrower can be used over Overheat if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot. However, you must be wary that Flamethrower misses the OHKO on +1 Lilligant, a major target that Manectric can KO with Overheat.</p>

    <p>As mentioned previously, Manectric is more of an "insurance" Pokemon to use when threats get out of control, so it doesn't require a lot of support to function at optimal capacity. Manectric has a hard time with Druddigon, (AC) as even Switcheroo will only limit Druddigon's effectiveness. For this reason, Steel-types such as Aggron and Escavalier can be used to sponge its powerful Dragon-type attacks while immediately threatening Druddigon with their STAB moves. Rapid Spin support is welcome as it will let Manectric use Volt Switch with much more freedom. Kabutops fits the bill nicely as it can lure in Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch in on. Cryogonal isn't bad either, (AC) as it's immune to Ground-type moves, but it does struggle against the most common spinblocker in the tier, Spiritomb. Mesprit is a solid partner, in particular its Choice Specs set. Mesprit is immune to Ground-type moves and can quickly weaken the special walls that may try to stop Manectric from revenge killing or going on a late-game sweep with Choice Specs-boosted Psyshocks. Manectric also functions well on VoltTurn teams. Braviary, Rotom-C, Eelektross, and the aforementioned Mesprit can use Volt Switch and U-turn respectively.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set aims to capitalize on Manectric's great coverage and solid Speed to turn it into a wallbreaker that can still pose a legitimate sweeping threat with its base 105 Speed and Special Attack. Volt Switch is Manectric's main STAB move on this set as it allows Manectric to scout out how the opponent wants to play against it, thus giving you an advantage the next time Manectric comes in. Flamethrower is used for its consistency and lack of Special Attack drops. It allows Manectric to easily get past the likes of Ferroseed, Steelix, and Tangrowth, all of which may come in to take Manectric's STAB moves. Thunderbolt provides Manectric a reliable STAB move that allows it to stay in and clean up late-game when the chance arises. In the last slot, a Hidden Power type needs to be chosen. Due to how common Druddigon is, Hidden Power Ice is generally preferred to allow Manectric to 2HKO all but specially defensive variants of Druddigon. However, Hidden Power Grass is an option to OHKO Rhydon, a serious threat that can easily demolish Manectric otherwise.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The item choice is a tough one, but the ability to switch moves with Expert Belt is generally preferred. Choice Specs is still a solid option for the significant power boost Manectric gains, especially on bulkier targets it can't hit for super effective damage, such as Uxie, Spiritomb, and Mesprit. Life Orb might seem like a middle ground of sorts, but it wears down Manectric way too quickly. Overheat and Switcheroo are two options to consider if you use Choice Specs. Overheat can just destroy Cryogonal, but it has little use outside of that. Switcheroo can cripple walls, but Manectric can just as easily use Expert Belt, or even Life Orb, to break them down with its great coverage.</p>

    <p>This set is one of the best Regenerator core killers in the entire tier, so Pokemon that appreciate not having to deal with these types of Pokemon are great teammates. Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei enjoy having Slowking and Alomomola removed from play so they can use their powerful STAB moves with more freedom. Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, draws in Electric-type moves, and enjoys not having to deal with Tangrowth and Ferroseed. Fighting-types such as Gallade and Hitmonlee are more than capable of taking out Clefable and Cryogonal, which can open the door for Manectric to sweep late-game. Rhydon can be a pretty big pain for this set if Manectric lacks Hidden Power Grass, so having something that can take its powerful moves can be helpful. For this reason, Torterra can be a pretty solid partner as it resists Ground-type moves in general and it appreciates having Tangrowth removed since it matches up well against most other defensive Pokemon in the tier. Manectric still performs well on VoltTurn teams, so pairing it with Pokemon such as Braviary and Mesprit can be worthwhile. Braviary appreciates Manectric's ability to remove most Steel-type Pokemon while Choice Specs Mesprit can easily break down special walls, such as Clefable and Lanturn, for Manectric with its STAB Psyshock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Manectric doesn't have a very wide movepool, but there are a few options to look at. Discharge and Charge Beam are alternative STAB moves that Manectric can use. Discharge has a better paralysis rate and Charge Beam can boost Manectric's Special Attack, but the utility of Volt Switch and reliable power of Thunderbolt is generally preferred. Thunder Wave can cripple faster threats, but Manectric is usually being met with more defensive Pokemon that can tank some of its attacks. Manectric has Howl to boost its Attack along with Wild Charge, the elemental fangs, and Crunch, but its base 75 Attack is mediocre at best. Light Screen can cushion special attacks for Manectric and its team, but even then, Manectric will still be taking serious damage from most powerful special attackers.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The best answers to Manectric are Clefable and Lanturn. Clefable is able to avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Thunderbolt while Lanturn only fears the odd Choice Specs-boosted Hidden Power Grass. Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous can switch in on the Electric- and Fire-type moves Manectric commonly carries and deal major damage with their powerful STAB moves. However, both do need to be careful of a possible Hidden Power Ice. Rhydon is in a similar boat in that it can take on any Manectric lacking Hidden Power Grass as Eviolite sets can avoid the 2HKO from Hidden Power Ice, but a Switcheroo can quickly limit its defensive capabilities. Offensive Pokemon that have good special bulk, such as Gallade and Bouffalant, are good checks, (AC) as they can tank any hit and KO back with their powerful STAB moves. Entei is able to take on Manectric decently well as it can use its STAB Flare Blitz or a powerful ExtremeSpeed to hit Manectric hard. Rotom resists Manectric's STAB moves and it can use a STAB Shadow Ball to deal significant damage to Manectric. Golurk isn't OHKOed by a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Priority moves are another way to deal with Manectric, (AC) as its meager defenses means it will take quite a bit of damage from most of them. Absol and Spiritomb are able to use Sucker Punch and both can even Pursuit Manectric if it decides to switch out. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee can hit hard with STAB Mach Punch and both have ways to boost the power of the move. Hitmonchan's is also usually backed by a Life Orb and Iron Fist, while Hitmonlee's will usually be powered up with a Fighting Gem. However, keep in mind that Manectric can simply use Volt Switch as these threats come in, thus making it difficult to revenge kill Manectric in this manner. Cryogonal is a great answer to the Choice Scarf set, but it has a much harder time with the special attacker set. Speaking of the special attacker, it is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, and most other Choice Scarf users in the tier. If all else fails, you can use Electivire or Manectric to take advantage of possible Volt Switches and Thunderbolts to gain a Speed boost or Special Attack boost respectively to try and sweep. However, you must take caution in going this route though, because neither Pokemon is able to handle Manectric's coverage moves very well.</p>

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    [Overview]

    <p>RU is not short on Electric-types and Manectric is one of the better ones out there. Sporting great coverage with solid Special Attack and Speed, Manectric is able to threaten defensive and offensive teams alike. Manectric is one of very few Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill +2 Omastar and +1 Lilligant without too many issues. Utility moves in the form of Volt Switch and Switheroo only augment Manectric's ability to wield Choice items effectively. Manectric is also blessed with a great ability in Lightningrod. Thanks to this ability, Manectric is capable of not only absorbing Electric-type moves like Volt Switch and Thunder Wave, but is also a simultaneously threatening to capable of sweeping thanks to the Special Attack boosted granted itf when Lightningrod is activated.</p>

    <p>However, Manectric does have some issues to overcome in RU. Although it has high Special Attack and Speed, Manectric's defenses are meager and can even make switching into a defensive threat like Lanturn a bit of a risk. Manectric's lack of usable resistances and immunities only magnifies this problem. While Electric / Fire / Grass coverage is still very good, it is now flawed with Druddigon being such a common threat. Although Manectric can utilize Hidden Power Ice to navigate past Druddigon, this would open it up leave it walled to by Rhydon, thus leaving quite the difficult choice when it comes to choosing a Hidden Power type.While Manectric may not be the best Electric-type in the tier, but it is certainly a threat you need to be ready for.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Manectric has all of the qualities necessary to be a solid Choice Scarf user. Equipped with a momentum-building move, Switcheroo, and the ability to revenge kill serious threats that few other Choice Scarf users can, Manectric is the best example of an "insurance" Pokemon for offensive teams to use. Volt Switch is a great move for any Choice item user and Manectric is no different. Volt Switch allows Manectric to build or maintain offensive momentum while scouting for possible checks and counters. Overheat is an incredibly useful tool for Manectric as it OHKOes +1 Lilligant, something almost no other Choice Scarf user can do without taking a hit first. Thunderbolt is a great cleaning move for Manectric and it also allows it to use a STAB move and stay on the field if the need arises. Switcheroo rounds out the set and allows Manectric to cripple an opposing wall that it might could have difficulty beating otherwise, such as Cryogonal or Clefable.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Lightningrod should always be used as it grants Manectric an immunity to all Electric-type moves, including Thunder Wave. The resulting Special Attack boost can even aid a possible late-game sweep. Hidden Power Grass can be used to deal with Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but both are quite rare and Golurk is hit just as hard by Overheat. Hidden Power Ice is an option if Druddigon is really annoying you, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Flamethrower can be used over Overheat if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot, or if you do not like the Special Attack drop that comes with Overheat. However, you must be wary that Flamethrower misses the OHKO on +1 Lilligant, a major target that Manectric can KO with Overheat.</p>

    <p>As mentioned previously, Manectric is more of an "insurance" Pokemon to use when threats get out of control, so it doesn't require a lot of support to function at optimal capacity. Manectric has a hard time with Druddigon, as even Switcheroo will only limit Druddigon's effectiveness. For this reason, Steel-types such as Aggron and Escavalier can be used make good partners to sponge its powerful Dragon-type attacks while immediately threatening Druddigon with their STAB moves. Rapid Spin support is welcome as it will let Manectric use Volt Switch with much more freedom. Kabutops fits the bill nicely as it can lure in Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch in on. Cryogonal isn't bad either as it's immune to Ground-type moves, but it does struggle against the most common spinblocker in the tier, Spiritomb. Mesprit is a solid partner, in particular its Choice Specs set. Mesprit is immune to Ground-type moves and can quickly weaken the special walls that may try to stop Manectric from revenge killing or going on a late-game sweep with Choice Specs-boosted Psyshocks. Manectric also functions well on VoltTurn teams. Braviary, Rotom-C, Eelektross, and the aforementioned Mesprit can use Volt Switch and U-turn respectively, if you decide to make a VoltTurn core.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set aims to capitalize on Manectric's great coverage and solid Speed to turn it into a wallbreaker that can still pose a legitimate sweeping threat with its base 105 Speed and Special Attack. Volt Switch is Manectric's main STAB move on this set as it allows Manectric to scout out how the opponent wants to play against it, thus giving you an advantage the next time Manectric comes in. Flamethrower is used for its consistency and lack of Special Attack drops. It allows Manectric to easily get past the likes of Ferroseed, Steelix, and Tangrowth, all of which may come in to take Manectric's STAB moves. Thunderbolt provides Manectric a reliable STAB move that allows it to stay in and clean up late-game when the chance arises. In the last slot, a Hidden Power type needs to be chosen. Due to how common Druddigon is, Hidden Power Ice is generally preferred to allow Manectric to 2HKO all but specially defensive variants of Druddigon. However, Hidden Power Grass is an option to OHKO Rhydon, a serious threat that can easily demolish Manectric otherwise.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The item choice is a tough one, but the ability to switch moves with Expert Belt is generally preferred. Choice Specs is still a solid option for the significant power boost Manectric gains, especially on bulkier targets it can't hit for super effective damage, such as Uxie, Spiritomb, and Mesprit. Life Orb might seem like a middle ground of sorts, but it wears down Manectric way too quickly. Overheat and Switcheroo are two options to consider if you use Choice Specs. Overheat can destroy Cryogonal, but it has little use outside of that. Switcheroo can cripple walls, but Manectric can just as easily use Expert Belt, or even Life Orb, to break them down with its great coverage.</p>

    <p>This set is one of the best Regenerator core killers in the entire tier, so Pokemon that appreciate not having to deal with these types of Pokemon are great teammates. Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei enjoy having Slowking and Alomomola removed from play so they can use their powerful STAB moves with more freedom. Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, draws in Electric-type moves, and enjoys not having to deal with Tangrowth and Ferroseed. Fighting-types such as Gallade and Hitmonlee are more than capable of taking out Clefable and Cryogonal, which can open the door for Manectric to sweep late-game. Rhydon can be a pretty big pain for this set if Manectric lacks Hidden Power Grass, so having something that can take its powerful moves can be helpful. For this reason, Torterra can be a pretty solid partner as it resists Ground-type moves in general and it appreciates having Tangrowth removed since it matches up well against most other defensive Pokemon in the tier. Manectric still performs well on VoltTurn teams, so pairing it with Pokemon such as Braviary and Mesprit can be worthwhile. Braviary appreciates Manectric's ability to remove most Steel-type Pokemon while Choice Specs Mesprit can easily break down special walls, such as Clefable and Lanturn, with its STAB Psyshock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Manectric doesn't have a very wide movepool, but there are a few options to look at. Discharge and Charge Beam are alternative STAB moves that Manectric can use. Discharge has a better paralysis rate and Charge Beam can boost Manectric's Special Attack, but the utility of Volt Switch and reliable power of Thunderbolt is generally preferred. Thunder Wave can cripple faster threats, but Manectric is usually being met with more defensive Pokemon that can tank some of its attacks. Manectric has Howl to boost its Attack, along with Wild Charge, the elemental fangs, and Crunch, but its base 75 Attack is mediocre at best. Light Screen can cushion special attacks for Manectric and its team, but even then, Manectric will still be taking serious damage from most powerful special attackers.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The best answers to Manectric are Clefable and Lanturn. Clefable is able to avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Thunderbolt while Lanturn only fears the odd Choice Specs-boosted Hidden Power Grass. Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous can switch in on the Electric- and Fire-type moves Manectric commonly carries and deal major damage with their powerful STAB moves. However, both need to be careful of a possible Hidden Power Ice. Rhydon is in a similar boat in that it can take on any Manectric lacking Hidden Power Grass, as Eviolite sets can avoid the 2HKO from Hidden Power Ice, but a Switcheroo can quickly limit its defensive capabilities. Offensive Pokemon that have good special bulk, such as Gallade and Bouffalant, are good checks, as they can tank any hit and KO back with their powerful STAB moves. Entei is able to take on Manectric decently well as it can use its STAB Flare Blitz or a powerful ExtremeSpeed to hit Manectric hard. Rotom resists Manectric's STAB moves and it can use a STAB Shadow Ball to deal significant damage to Manectric. Golurk isn't OHKOed by a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Priority moves are another way to deal with Manectric as its meager defenses means it will take quite a bit of damage from most of them. Absol and Spiritomb are able to use Sucker Punch and both can even Pursuit Manectric if it decides to switch out. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee can hit hard with STAB Mach Punch. Hitmonchan's is backed by a Life Orb and Iron Fist, while Hitmonlee's will usually be powered up with a Fighting Gem. However, keep in mind that Manectric can simply use Volt Switch as these threats come in, thus making it difficult to revenge kill Manectric in this manner. Cryogonal is a great answer to the Choice Scarf set, but it has a much harder time with the special attacker set. Speaking of the special attacker, it is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, and most other Choice Scarf users in the tier. If all else fails, you can use Electivire or Manectric to take advantage of possible Volt Switches and Thunderbolts to gain a Speed or Special Attack boost to try and sweep. However, you must take caution in going this route, because neither Pokemon is able to handle Manectric's coverage moves very well.</p>



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  18. EonX

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    [Overview]

    <p>RU is not short on Electric-types and Manectric is one of the better ones out there. Sporting great coverage with solid Special Attack and Speed, Manectric is able to threaten defensive and offensive teams alike. Manectric is one of very few Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill +2 Omastar and +1 Lilligant without too many issues. Utility moves in the form of Volt Switch and Switheroo only augment Manectric's ability to wield Choice items effectively. Manectric is also blessed with a great ability in Lightningrod. Thanks to this ability, Manectric is capable of not only absorbing Electric-type moves like Volt Switch and Thunder Wave but also is also capable of sweeping thanks to the Special Attack boosted granted if Lightningrod is activated.</p>

    <p>However, Manectric does have some issues to overcome in RU. Although it has high Special Attack and Speed, Manectric's defenses are meager and can even make switching into a defensive threat like Lanturn a bit of a risk. Manectric's lack of usable resistances and immunities only magnifies this problem. While Electric / Fire / Grass coverage is still very good, it is now flawed with Druddigon being such a common threat. Although Manectric can utilize Hidden Power Ice to navigate past Druddigon, this would open it up to Rhydon, thus leaving quite the difficult choice when it comes to choosing a Hidden Power type. While Manectric may not be the best Electric-type in the tier,(AC) it is certainly a threat you need to be ready for.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Manectric has all of the qualities necessary to be a solid Choice Scarf user. Equipped with a momentum-building move, Switcheroo, and the ability to revenge kill serious threats that few other Choice Scarf users can, Manectric is the best example of an "insurance" Pokemon for offensive teams to use. Volt Switch is a great move for any Choice item user and Manectric is no different. Volt Switch allows Manectric to build or maintain offensive momentum while scouting for possible checks and counters. Overheat is an incredibly useful tool for Manectric as it OHKOes +1 Lilligant, something almost no other Choice Scarf user can do without taking a hit first. Thunderbolt is a great cleaning move for Manectric and it also allows it to use a STAB move and stay on the field if the need arises. Switcheroo rounds out the set and allows Manectric to cripple an opposing wall that it might have difficulty beating otherwise, such as Cryogonal or Clefable.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Lightningrod should always be used as it grants Manectric an immunity to all Electric-type moves, including Thunder Wave. The resulting Special Attack boost can even aid a possible late-game sweep. Hidden Power Grass can be used to deal with Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but both are quite rare and Golurk is hit just as hard by Overheat. Hidden Power Ice is an option if Druddigon is really annoying you, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Flamethrower can be used over Overheat if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot, of and if you don't like the Special Attack drop that is caused by Overheat. However, you must be wary that Flamethrower misses the OHKO on +1 Lilligant, a major target that Manectric can KO with Overheat.</p>

    <p>As mentioned previously, Manectric is more of an "insurance" Pokemon to use when threats get out of control, so it doesn't require a lot of support to function at optimal capacity. Manectric has a hard time with Druddigon, as even Switcheroo will only limit Druddigon's effectiveness. For this reason, Steel-types such as Aggron and Escavalier make for good partners to sponge its powerful Dragon-type attacks while immediately threatening Druddigon with their STAB moves. Rapid Spin support is welcome as it will let Manectric use Volt Switch with much more freedom. Kabutops fits the bill nicely as it can lure in Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch in on. Cryogonal isn't bad either as it's immune to Ground-type moves, but it does struggle against the most common spinblocker in the tier, Spiritomb. Mesprit is a solid partner, in particular its Choice Specs set. Mesprit is immune to Ground-type moves and can quickly weaken the special walls that may try to stop Manectric from revenge killing or going on a late-game sweep with Choice Specs-boosted Psyshocks. Manectric also functions well on VoltTurn teams. Braviary, Rotom-C, Eelektross, and the aforementioned Mesprit can all use either Volt Switch and or U-turn respectively if you choose to use a VoltTurn core.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set aims to capitalize on Manectric's great coverage and solid Speed to turn it into a wallbreaker that can still pose a legitimate sweeping threat with its base 105 Speed and Special Attack. Volt Switch is Manectric's main STAB move on this set as it allows Manectric to scout out how the opponent wants to play against it, thus giving you an advantage the next time Manectric comes in. Flamethrower is used for its consistency and lack of Special Attack drops. It allows Manectric to easily get past the likes of Ferroseed, Steelix, and Tangrowth, all of which may come in to take Manectric's Electric-type STAB moves. Thunderbolt provides Manectric with a reliable STAB move that allows it to stay in and clean up late-game when the chance arises. In the last slot, a Hidden Power type needs to be chosen. Due to how common Druddigon is, Hidden Power Ice is generally preferred to allow Manectric to 2HKO all but specially defensive variants of Druddigon. However, Hidden Power Grass is an option to OHKO Rhydon, a serious threat that can easily demolish Manectric otherwise.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The item choice is a tough one, but the ability to switch moves with Expert Belt is generally preferred. Choice Specs is still a solid option for the significant power boost Manectric gains, especially on bulkier targets it can't hit for super effective damage, such as Uxie, Spiritomb, and Mesprit. Life Orb might seem like a middle ground of sorts, but it wears down Manectric way too quickly. Overheat and Switcheroo are two options to consider if you use Choice Specs. Overheat can destroy Cryogonal, but it has little use outside of that. Switcheroo can cripple walls, but Manectric can just as easily use Expert Belt, or even Life Orb, to break them down with its great coverage.</p>

    <p>This set is one of the best Regenerator core killers in the entire tier, so Pokemon that appreciate not having to deal with these types of Pokemon are great teammates. Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei enjoy having Slowking and Alomomola removed from play so they can use their powerful STAB moves with more freedom. Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, draws in Electric-type moves, and enjoys not having to deal with Tangrowth and Ferroseed. Fighting-types such as Gallade and Hitmonlee are more than capable of taking out Clefable and Cryogonal, which can open the door for Manectric to sweep late-game. Rhydon can be a pretty big pain for this set if Manectric lacks Hidden Power Grass, so having something that can take its powerful moves can be helpful. For this reason, Torterra can be a pretty solid partner as it resists Ground-type moves in general and it appreciates having Tangrowth removed since it matches up well against most other defensive Pokemon in the tier. Manectric still performs well on VoltTurn teams, so pairing it with Pokemon such as Braviary and Mesprit can be worthwhile. Braviary appreciates Manectric's ability to remove most Steel-type Pokemon while Choice Specs Mesprit can easily break down special walls, such as Clefable and Lanturn, with its STAB Psyshock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Manectric doesn't have a very wide movepool, but there are a few options to look at. Discharge and Charge Beam are alternative STAB moves that Manectric can use. Discharge has a better paralysis rate and Charge Beam can boost Manectric's Special Attack, but the utility of Volt Switch and reliable power of Thunderbolt is generally preferred. Thunder Wave can cripple faster threats, but Manectric is usually being met with more defensive Pokemon that can tank some of its attacks. Manectric has Howl to boost its Attack along with Wild Charge, the elemental fangs, and Crunch, but its base 75 Attack is mediocre at best. Light Screen can cushion special attacks for Manectric and its team, but even then, Manectric will still be taking serious damage from most powerful special attackers.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The best answers to Manectric are Clefable and Lanturn. Clefable is able to avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Thunderbolt while Lanturn only fears the odd Choice Specs-boosted Hidden Power Grass. Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous can switch in on the Electric- and Fire-type moves Manectric commonly carries and deal major damage with their powerful STAB moves. However, both need to be careful of a possible Hidden Power Ice. Rhydon is in a similar boat in that it can take on any Manectric lacking Hidden Power Grass as Eviolite sets can avoid the 2HKO from Hidden Power Ice, but a Switcheroo can quickly limit its defensive capabilities. Offensive Pokemon that have good special bulk, such as Gallade and Bouffalant, are good checks, as they can tank any hit and KO back with their powerful STAB moves. Entei is able to take on Manectric decently well as it can use its STAB Flare Blitz or a powerful ExtremeSpeed to hit Manectric hard. Rotom resists Manectric's STAB moves and it can use a STAB Shadow Ball to deal significant damage to Manectric. Golurk isn't OHKOed by a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Priority moves are another way to deal with Manectric as its meager defenses means it will take quite a bit of damage from most of them. Absol and Spiritomb are able to use Sucker Punch and both can even Pursuit Manectric if it decides to switch out. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee can hit hard with STAB Mach Punch. Hitmonchan's is backed by a Life Orb and Iron Fist, while Hitmonlee's will usually be powered up with a Fighting Gem. However, keep in mind that Manectric can simply use Volt Switch as these threats come in, thus making it difficult to revenge kill Manectric in this manner. Cryogonal is a great answer to the Choice Scarf set, but it has a much harder time with the special attacker set. Speaking of the special attacker, it is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, and most other Choice Scarf users in the tier. If all else fails, you can use your own Electivire or Manectric to take advantage of possible Volt Switches and Thunderbolts to gain a Speed or Special Attack boost to try and sweep. However, you must take caution in going this route, because neither Pokemon is able to handle Manectric's coverage moves very well.</p>



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    [Overview]

    <p>RU is not short of Electric-types and Manectric is one of the better ones out there. Sporting great coverage with solid Special Attack and Speed, Manectric is able to threaten defensive and offensive teams alike. Manectric is one of very few Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill +2 Omastar and +1 Lilligant without too many issues. Utility moves in the form of Volt Switch and Switcheroo only augment Manectric's ability to wield Choice items effectively. ManectricIt is also blessed with a great ability in Lightningrod. Thanks to this ability, Manectric is capable of not only absorbing Electric-type moves like Volt Switch and Thunder Wave but is also capable of sweeping thanks to the Special Attack boost granted if Lightningrod is activated. Manectric makes for one of the best Choice Scarf users in RU because of these traits.</p>

    <p>However, Manectric does have some issues to overcome in RU. Although it has high Special Attack and Speed, Manectric's defenses are meager and can even make switching into a defensive threat like Lanturn a bit of a risk. Manectric's lack of usable resistances and immunities only magnifies this problem. While Electric / Fire / Grass coverage is still very good, it is now flawed with Druddigon being such a common threat. Although Manectric can utilize Hidden Power Ice to navigate past Druddigon, this would open it up to Rhydon, thus leaving quite the difficult choice when it comes to choosing a Hidden Power type. While Manectric may not be the best Electric-type in the tier, it is certainly a threat you need to be ready for.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Overheat
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Switcheroo
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Manectric has all of the qualities necessary to be a solid Choice Scarf user. Equipped with a momentum-building move, Switcheroo, and the ability to revenge kill serious threats that few other Choice Scarf users can, Manectric is the best example of an "insurance" Pokemon for offensive teams to use. Volt Switch is a great move for any Choice item user and Manectric is no different. Volt Switch allows Manectric to build or maintain offensive momentum while scouting for possible checks and counters. Overheat is an incredibly useful tool for Manectric, as it OHKOes +1 Lilligant, something almost no other Choice Scarf user can do without taking a hit first. Thunderbolt is a great cleaning move for Manectric and it also allows it to use a STAB move and stay on the field if the need arises. Switcheroo rounds out the set and allows Manectric to cripple an opposing wall that it might have difficulty beating otherwise, such as CryogonalRhydon or Clefable.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Lightningrod should always be used as it grants Manectric an immunity to all Electric-type moves, including Thunder Wave. The resulting Special Attack boost can even aid a possible late-game sweep. Hidden Power Grass can be used to deal with Rock Polish Rhydon and Golurk, but both are quite rare and Golurk is hit just as hard by Overheat. Hidden Power Ice is an option if Druddigon is really annoying you, but it will fail to 2HKO most variants. Flamethrower can be used over Overheat if you find yourself using Switcheroo a lot, and if you don't like the Special Attack drop that is caused by Overheat. However, you must be wary that Flamethrower misses the OHKO on +1 Lilligant, a major target that Manectric can KO with Overheat.</p>

    <p>As mentioned previously, Manectric is more of an "insurance" Pokemon to use when threats get out of control, so it doesn't require a lot of support to function at optimal capacity. Manectric has a hard time with Druddigon, as even Switcheroo will only limit Druddigon's effectiveness. For this reason, Steel-types such as Aggron and Escavalier make for good partners to sponge its powerful Dragon-type attacks while immediately threatening Druddigon with their STAB moves. Rapid Spin support is welcome as it will let Manectric use Volt Switch with much more freedom. Kabutops fits the bill nicely as it can lure in Electric-type moves for Manectric to switch in on. Cryogonal isn't bad either as it's immune to Ground-type moves, but it does struggle against the most common spinblocker in the tier, Spiritomb. Mesprit is a solid partner, in particular its Choice Specs set. Mesprit is immune to Ground-type moves and can quickly weaken the special walls that may try to stop Manectric from revenge killing or going on a late-game sweep with Choice Specs-boosted Psyshocks. Manectric also functions well on VoltTurn teams. Braviary, Rotom-C, Eelektross, and the aforementioned Mesprit can all use either Volt Switch or U-turn if you choose to use a VoltTurn core.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Flamethrower
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Expert Belt / Choice Specs
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set aims to capitalize on Manectric's great coverage and solid Speed to turn it into a wallbreaker that can still pose a legitimate sweeping threat with its base 105 Speed and Special Attack. Volt Switch is Manectric's main STAB move on this set, as it allows Manectric to scout out how the opponent wants to play against it, thus giving you an advantage the next time Manectric comes in. Flamethrower is used for its consistency and lack of Special Attack drops. It allows Manectric to easily get past the likes of Ferroseed, Steelix, and Tangrowth, all of which may come in to take Manectric's Electric-type STAB moves. Thunderbolt provides Manectric with a reliable STAB move that allows it to stay in and clean up late-game when the chance arises. In the last slot, a Hidden Power type needs to be chosen. Due to how common Druddigon is, Hidden Power Ice is generally preferred to allow Manectric to 2HKO all but specially defensive variants of Druddigon. However, Hidden Power Grass is an option to OHKO Rhydon, a serious threat that can easily demolish Manectric otherwise.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The item choice is a tough one, but the ability to switch moves and bluff a Choice item with Expert Belt is generally preferred. Choice Specs is still a solid option for the significant power boost Manectric gains, especially on bulkier targets it can't hit for super effective damage, such as Uxie, Spiritomb, and Mesprit. Life Orb might seem like a middle ground of sorts, but it wears down Manectric way too quickly. Overheat and Switcheroo are two options to consider if you use Choice Specs. Overheat can destroy Cryogonal, but it has little use outside of that. Switcheroo can cripple walls, but Manectric can just as easily use Expert Belt, or even Life Orb, to break them down with its great coverage.</p>

    <p>This set is one of the best Regenerator core killers in the entire tier, so Pokemon that appreciate not having to deal with these types of Pokemon are great teammates. Fire-types such as Emboar and Entei enjoy having Slowking and Alomomola removed from play so they can use their powerful STAB moves with more freedom. Kabutops provides Rapid Spin support, draws in Electric-type moves, and enjoys not having to deal with Tangrowth and Ferroseed. Fighting-types such as Gallade and Hitmonlee are more than capable of taking out Clefable and Cryogonal, which can open the door for Manectric to sweep late-game. Rhydon can be a pretty big pain for this set if Manectric lacks Hidden Power Grass, so having something that can take its powerful moves can be helpful. For this reason, Torterra can be a pretty solid partner as it resists Ground-type moves and it appreciates having Tangrowth removed since it matches up well against most other defensive Pokemon in the tier. Manectric still performs well on VoltTurn teams, so pairing it with Pokemon such as Braviary and Mesprit can be worthwhile. Braviary appreciates Manectric's ability to remove most Steel-type Pokemon while Choice Specs Mesprit can easily break down special walls, such as Clefable and Lanturn, with its STAB Psyshock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Manectric doesn't have a very wide movepool, but there are a few options to look at. Discharge and Charge Beam are alternative STAB moves that Manectric can use. Discharge has a better paralysis rate and Charge Beam can boost Manectric's Special Attack, but the utility of Volt Switch and reliable power of Thunderbolt is generally preferred. Thunder Wave can cripple faster threats, but Manectric is usually being met with more defensive Pokemon that can tank some of its attacks. Manectric has Howl to boost its Attack along with Wild Charge, the elemental fangs, and Crunch, but its base 75 Attack is mediocre at best. Light Screen can cushion special attacks for Manectric and its team, but even then, Manectric will still be taking serious damage from most powerful special attackers.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>The best answers to Manectric are Clefable and Lanturn. Clefable is able to avoid the 2HKO from Choice Specs Thunderbolt while Lanturn only fears the odd Choice Specs-boosted Hidden Power Grass. Dragon-types such as Druddigon and Zweilous can switch in on the Electric- and Fire-type moves Manectric commonly carries and deal major damage with their powerful STAB moves. However, both need to be careful of a possible Hidden Power Ice. Rhydon is in a similar boat in that it can take on any Manectric lacking Hidden Power Grass as Eviolite sets can avoid the 2HKO from Hidden Power Ice, but a Switcheroo can quickly limit its defensive capabilities. Offensive Pokemon that have good special bulk, such as Gallade and Bouffalant, are good checks, as they can tank any hit and KO back with their powerful STAB moves. Entei is able to take on Manectric decently well as it can use its STAB Flare Blitz or a powerful ExtremeSpeed to hit Manectric hard. Rotom resists Manectric's STAB moves and it can use a STAB Shadow Ball to deal significant damage to Manectric. Golurk isn't OHKOed by a super effective Hidden Power and can easily KO back with Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Priority moves are another way to deal with Manectric as its meager defenses means it will take quite a bit of damage from most of them. Absol and Spiritomb are able to use Sucker Punch and both can even Pursuit Manectric if it decides to switch out. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee can hit hard with STAB Mach Punch.; Hitmonchan's is backed by a Life Orb and Iron Fist, while Hitmonlee's will usually be powered up with a Fighting Gem. However, keep in mind that Manectric can simply use Volt Switch as these threats come in, thus making it difficult to revenge kill Manectric in this manneryou shouldn't be switching these threats into Manectric as it has a high possibility of Volt Switching out. Cryogonal is a great answer to the Choice Scarf set, but it has a much harder time with the special attacker set. Speaking of the special attacker, it is outsped by Durant, Sceptile, and most other Choice Scarf users in the tier. If all else fails, you can use your own Electivire or Manectric to take advantage of possible Volt Switches and Thunderbolts to gain a Speed or Special Attack boost to try and sweep. However, you must take caution in going this route, because neither Pokemon is able to handle Manectric's coverage moves vOverheat or even Hidden Powery wellill hurt.</p>

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