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Masuda Method Without Shiny Charm

Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Sykikal, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. LunarSparks

    LunarSparks

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    Off topic: That is quite an amazing piece of tech you created there man! Props to you for coming up with something incredible like that.

    On topic: Updated and reached my initial goal of 120 eggs with no shinies to be found. I switched gears from noibats to a male US treecko and a female Japanese helioptile.
    Also happy to say that #21 of the new batch yielded me a shiny with right nature, ability and ivs! I'm going to continue to press on with helioptiles though.
    Edit: Going to pledge 300 eggs this time around.
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2014
  2. Sykikal

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    Hi, always glad to see people up for helping. Maybe I should have clarified this more. The general notion that Wichu pointed out is that there is a bias among people who started hatching eggs prior to making a pledge. People who get shinies are probably more likely to report how many hatches it took than those who didn't get shinies, so we (I think the other people here will back me up on this) only allow you to add to the number if you've pledged to hatch those eggs on the topic in advance. I personally hatched approximately 2,600 eggs myself months ago using MM and only got one shiny, but I didn't include them in this thread because I didn't think those hatches qualified.
  3. Azelph

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    Finished first pledge of eggs with no luck. Does it matter if the English pokemon I'm using to breed is an offspring of the Japanese one that it's breeding with?

    Edited first post with new pledge.
  4. Sykikal

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    I don't know why that would matter. As long as both the parents are different regions you should be fine (I heard a rumor about it being language but North America and Japan are different on both counts).
  5. birdonwheels5

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    Sweet, we finally have The Machine on our side :D This should speed things up
  6. Teru_XD

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    Done with second batch. Updated original post. This should reflect how bad my luck is at breeding shinies.
  7. PokeTroopa

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    Oh darn. Alright then, I altered the document and took my prior attempts off. I'll get back on the pledging part.
  8. birdonwheels5

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    If you counted those eggs as you hatched them more or less exact, they should be ok. You have such a large number of eggs, you are still hatching eggs, and it more or less matches the accepted ratio, so it would seem to be okay. Your sample size is large enough that it shouldn't matter about pledging (I myself have given up on pledges; I just keep hatching eggs, but I try to stop at pretty numbers, eg. 2600, 3000, 3200, ect.).
  9. ghost_403

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    I'll contribute my results. Started keeping track of the Masuda eggs recently.

    240 eggs, 0 shinies.

    Probably won't breed any more until I get the shiny charm.
  10. Teru_XD

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    I'm officially through half my pledge. Half a thousand eggs and still no shiny. Looking at the results with SC, I'm starting to think that it DOES indeed stack with MM.
  11. Azelph

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    Aaand another batch done with no luck. :( updated original post to include those results and added another 100 egg pledge. Zzz feebas no like me! Gonna switch to a German 5 iv slowpoke and a Canadian 5 iv slowpoke for this batch.
  12. Corvus_Chupacabra

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    Finished all my batches, no shinys. I kind of want to wait until I get the shiny charm to do anymore. Besides, classes are going to pick up pretty soon and I won't have as much time. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow, but I'm at least taking a break for now. Good luck to everyone else.
  13. dekuNukem

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    The Machine finished 555 eggs today, 1 shiny snivy at 488th egg :)

    I'll let it do another 500 eggs.

    EDIT: Local Serperior + Japanese Ditto.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2014
  14. dekuNukem

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    219 eggs, another shiny snivy :)
  15. Wolf Rainbowtail

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    Hmm, I've been watching this thread with interest since it was created, and I'd like to pledge 300 eggs. They'll be updated in batches of 30 since I sort of only have one box free to work with right now.

    I do not have the shiny charm.

    Breeding male 5 IV (missing defense) Japanese Litleo with female 5 IV (also missing defense) English Chimchar

    If I don't get my shiny in 300 eggs, I'll pledge another 300 eggs.
    I also may switch in a flawless female Chimchar if I manage to get one before a shiny.

    Egg log

    1-30 = complete, no shiny
    31-60 = complete, no shiny
    61-90 = complete, no shiny
    91-120 = complete, no shiny
    121-150 = complete, no shiny
    151-180 = complete, no shiny
    181-210 = complete, no shiny
    211-240 = complete, no shiny
    241-270 = complete, no shiny
    271-300 = complete, no shiny

    EDIT: Going to 600

    301-330 = complete, no shiny
    331-360 = complete, no shiny
    361-390 = complete, no shiny
    391-420 = complete, no shiny
    421-450 = complete, no shiny
    451-480 = complete, no shiny
    481-510 = complete, no shiny
    511-540 = complete, no shiny
    541-570 = complete, no shiny
    571-600 = complete, no shiny

    EDIT: Third pledge lucky? 900 it is.

    601-630 = complete, no shiny
    631-660 = complete, no shiny
    661-690 = complete, no shiny
    691-720 = complete, no shiny
    721-750 = complete, no shiny
    751-780 = complete, no shiny
    781-810 = complete, no shiny
    811-840 = complete, no shiny
    841-870 = complete, no shiny
    871-900 = complete, no shiny

    Or not... please be in this batch? I don't want to hatch more than 1,200 eggs for a single shiny of a Pokemon I'm kind of starting to hate...

    901-930 = complete, no shiny
    931-960 = complete, no shiny
    961-990 = complete, no shiny
    991-1020 = complete, no shiny
    1021-1050 = complete, no shiny
    1051-1080 = complete, no shiny
    1081-1110= complete, no shiny
    1111- 1140 = complete, no shiny
    1141-1170 = complete, no shiny
    1171-1200 = complete, no shiny

    To 1,500, and hopefully not beyond!

    1201-1230 = complete, no shiny
    1231-1260 = complete, no shiny
    1261-1290 = complete, no shiny
    1291-1320 = complete, no shiny
    1321-1350 = complete, no shiny
    1351-1380 = complete, no shiny
    1381-1410 = complete, no shiny
    1411-1440 = complete, no shiny
    1441-1470 = complete, no shiny
    1471-1500 = complete, no shiny

    1,800 I guess...

    1501-1530 = not yet started
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2014
  16. Corvus_Chupacabra

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    I might as well do another pledge. 900 eggs this time. I probably won't get the shiny charm for at least a week and I've been watching a lot of TV anyway. Male Japanese Ralts, Female American Tynamo.

    Batch 1: 0/150
    Batch 2: 0/150
    Batch 3: 1/150 (Switched to Male Korean Dratini and Female American Helioptile after 11 eggs.)
    Batch 4: 1/150 (Switched to Male japanese Mawile and Female American Scraggy after 100 eggs)
    Batch 5: 0/150
    Batch 6: 0/150
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2014
  17. Teru_XD

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    Just finished my pledge. A thousand eggs, not a single shiny to be seen. I'm officially done for now. If I try something like this again, it will be after I get the Shiny Charm. Hope you guys have better luck.
  18. LunarSparks

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    Continuing on with my pledge of 300 more eggs and #109 was a shiny. I guess helioptiles really like me or something...
    I'm slowly getting my pledge done and updating the spreadsheet at approximately every 30 eggs.

    Edit: Pledge #: 240/300 so far.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2014
  19. Red G

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    Why do many of you guys breed two different species together? Eggs form at a quicker rate when both parents are the same species.
  20. Mulan15262

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    Eggs form quickly enough with two pokemon of different species and OT breed. That provides the 50% chance of an egg that two pokemon of the same species and OT can make.

    Also, a lot of people are also IV breeding, and they might not have a male parent with good IVs.
  21. Corvus_Chupacabra

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    I have the oval charm, it doesn't take too long to get eggs. Eggs come at a steady rate for me. Besides, good IVs are easier to come by when asking for a more common pokemon like ralts or dratini. At least in my experience.

    Edit: I finally got a shiny =) The Tynamo's only missing HP and Attack ivs. I'll wait to update the chart once I finish my current batch. I'm going to switch pokemon too.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
  22. Wolf Rainbowtail

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    Alright, that's my pledge done. 300 eggs and not a shiny Chimchar in sight. I've been trying to hatch this thing since Christmas. I've pledging 300 more eggs though, which will bring it up to 600. I'll keep updating in batches on my first post, reply #40.
  23. jg2115

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    I just joined smogon for this thread. I've been MMing Marills, but no luck yet and I decided to put it towards this research. I have 10 boxes of Marill eggs saved up(300 eggs), and I'm about to hatch them. I'll post back results as I hatch each box.

    forgot to mention: male jap marill with female US marill

    Results:
    box 1:no shinies
    box 2:no shinies
    box 3:no shinies
    box 4:no shinies
    box 5:no shinies
    box 6:no shinies
    box 7:no shinies
    box 8:incomplete
    box 9:incomplete
    box 10:incomplete
    Last edited: May 16, 2014
  24. Kyann

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    Before I got the shiny charm (Yesterday) I hatched 2,000 eggs and got 7 shinnies. I don't know if I should add that to the document since I didn't pledge to this thread before doing it. xD (Tipping for the win!)
  25. AyameHikaru

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    I'll do batches of 30 at a time. I do not have the Shiny Charm.

    Previous project: Japanese Ditto and English Squirtle

    BATCH 1: No shinies
    BATCH 2: No shinies

    Current Project: Japanese Ditto and English Trevenant

    BATCH 3: No shinies
    BATCH 4: No shinies
    BATCH 5: No shinies
    BATCH 6: No shinies
    BATCH 7: In progress
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2014

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