anyway empoof you have a point i am getting p flamy its just annoying to have subbed into a shady slot and then get scumread for doing my usual stuff. i normally never sub into nocs so i get to establish my slot from the get-go but this one has subbed twice. the point in the game when i subbed in with a scumread onto josh and texas as an observer let them both immediately latch onto "you're scumreading actives! you're scum!" whereas if i had been in the game earlier to point out as the game was going on what i disliked about their posts, there would be no artificial "you only scumread actives" (i mean they do have the most posts when you're skimming to read from??) to accuse me of. i also would BE one of them. here is the post in question from texas: "Yeti your justification for your reads on sub in were garbage, you made a progression during the point that you town read me that looked towby and then you made a series of posts that reek to me of scum motivation. Ergo." everything after the progression from scum to town on him was back to scum sooooo. i Really Really Extremely dislike his play today. he dropped his vote on me then every 12 hours says "can we lynch yeti yet" but he gives nobody else any reason to vote me, except josh whose mouth is attached to his butt and is eating up everything that comes out rn. he scumreads me, sure. but IF he is town why is he doing nothing to make a case for lynching me. he isnt trying to push anyone else to lynch off his scumread. he just parks his vote and then doesnt really interact with the rest of the game. iso him and look at how many of his posts are in response to josh and me versus anyone else, or about anyone else. there are some but the majority are centered on one person hard townreading him and one who scumreads him (which is the less-common view). he wouldnt oppose an ID lynch today. thats about all we get from him besides me. if he is so insistent on lynching me why isnt he trying to convince anyone else to?? like if i had subbed into the aubisio/dle slot instead, and he was doing this to the ullar slot, i would still take a huge issue with the fact he ISNT PUSHING HIS SCUMREAD. "Vote yeti (i am not voting myself twin dont count this) It'll take a lot to convince me to vote elsewhere today, fairly confident this is a scum motivated slot. Last scum in blazade or hawkie I think" "Blazade has been really easy to push. Yes been away, no one has really bothered to defend him. Makes him an easy target supported by wagonomics. Hawkie also fits the wagonomics. I'm concerned that he's been mostly universally town read since early on day 1 and hasn't been subject to any kind of significant pressure. In particular, the only person whose even pushed the idea of null!hawkie is yeti which is especially concerning in the event she's scum as there's no doubt she's willing to set up situations where scum flips make her look more towny." ****** "Or or or or or We lynch yeti" "Still def want to lynch yeti but I don't think I'd oppose ID as vehemently as I did yesterday" "I like how yeti thinks she knows how I'm playing Also the secrety hinty things with josh aren't meta related whatsoever" "So back to lynching yeti then" "The irony of yeti asking people not to omgus" im gonna be frank. you do suck. you suck at making a push, you suck at convincing people to vote with you, you suck at providing reasons. i have copy/pasted every post texas has made about me today. i have starred the ONE where he provides any reason that he thinks i am scum and that might convince someone on the fence to vote me. the funny thing is his reason is pretty contrary to my town-meta. of course i am trying to evolve my game but i was an extremely easy scumread in my early noc days BECAUSE i could not bus my partners. the only way to win popcorn was hard bussing every single person in the gd game, but even look back to blazade's weeb mafia and you can see where i had a reluctance to lynch one of my teammates to clean myself. i have a fairly numerically-oriented logic about such things and i feel its always more advantageous to not sacc your own teammate. so no, i would not set up a situation where my teammate flipping makes me look towny. its very hard for me to do that. i felt bad af pushing moody and fort as hard as i did in popcorn cause i knew moody was town and fort was trying but it was THE only way to win. i dont consider that true at all in a normal noc aside from the fact im not scum. IF TEXAS IS TOWN I THINK HE IS TOTALLY UNHELPFUL. i say this as the slot hes voting. what is he doing to get anyone else to scumread me????????? NOTHING NOT A GD THING this will be called omgus BECAUSE he scumreads me but if this was anyone elses slot id have the same issue. knights parked his vote uselessly but at least gave a reason why he thought shubaka was scum. he made a case. texas does nothin. so i find his lack of drive and initiative in trying to ACTUALLY get me lynched makes him look like scum hoping a wagon onto me just sort of manifests on its own and then when i flip town he can claim it was the second and third guys who voted me who are the scum and they were just wagoning him and hes not responsible for this mislynch and blah blah cause he certainly cant use the claim im not interacting with ppl or trying to help town. texas doesnt care about interacting with most other people today which also means he doesnt care about getting them to vote with him. chanting "lynch yeti ayy" with literally nothing else of substance in the post is NOT going to convince anyone who actually cares about this game and is trying. like seriously it wouldnt be so bad and frustrating if he ACTUALLY TRIED TO CONVINCE PEOPLE but he doesnt. hes just this nagging little fly buzzing around my head. repeating "lynch yeti but i wont say why" i have a tinfoil he's the jailkeeper and targeted me one night and thinks that has confirmed i am scum without considering empoof's bpv was broken that night OR the mafia actually tried to kill me. he doesnt want to claim obv so he just spits out "lynch yeti" every 12 hours hoping someone will. the sad thing is hes going to make himself look so much worse when i flip town and tell everyone to lynch him, if he is jk. i would hope our PR wouldnt actually fall into omgus. ill try and keep the flame on the dl now im just rly annoyed with this retard push onto me that has no stated reasons. the guy first on the wagon isnt even trying to convince anyone to vote me. i see that as extremely unhelpful. if you scumread someone then make a flippin case or consider you might be wrong when nobody joins your wagon. im also rly annoyed by that hawkie post. in the same post he says im scummy for trying too hard to get a townread under suspicion while knights is town for continuing to try under suspicion. like what?????????????? it doesnt make any gd sense and it seems more like hawkie needed to post Something with a reason so he put some crap that contradicts itself together without thinking about it too much. that said i still find his d1 fight with ullar super TvT in the way both got too hyperactive thinking they had CAUGHT A SCUM there. thats something towns do. not scum. scum dont have that High of lynchin the mafia theyve caught!!! town do so they tunnel and go ham.