Mergemons XY - Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion are Legal

[Throbulator36]

Ah fair enough. Do as-yet-unimplemented Pokemon count? Like, would Volcarona get Volcanion's moves, or currently get Voltorbs?

As of before the major change they weren't included. It might get changed though.

 

[yikes]

Ah fair enough. Do as-yet-unimplemented Pokemon count? Like, would Volcarona get Volcanion's moves, or currently get Voltorbs?

NFEs are grouped with their evolutions, unreleased Pokemon don't count, and the merging has just gone over a huge revamp.

 

[Monte Cristo]

The minor change is definitely good, as we've always wanted to play those pokes like this.

The major change is iffy, since it would cause a complete metagame shift, and the meta is pretty good as it is; i don't really support this one.

On another topic:
I don't know if this has been mentioned, and i don't feel like reading the rest of this either, but the first thing i noticed was belly drum + extremespeed snorlax. I mean, seriously.

+6 252+ Atk Snorlax Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 675-795 (95.8 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
That's pretty broken if you ask me. It has enough bulk to set up, enough power to really do damage, and it has an amazing movepool. When there are no resists left, you lose.

252+ Atk Life Orb Snorlax Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 133-157 (33.7 - 39.8%) -- 29.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Snorlax Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 102-121 (25.8 - 30.7%) -- 4.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Snorlax Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Clefable: 169-200 (42.8 - 50.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Snorlax Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Clefable: 130-154 (32.9 - 39%) -- 9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Seriously why do people forget unaware exists?

 

[Throbulator36]

Groups

Abomasnow/Absol/Zygarde
Abomasnow/Absol/Accelgor
Absol/Accelgor/Aegislash
Accelgor/Aegislash/Aerodactyl
Aegislash/Aerodactyl/Aggron
Aerodactyl/Aggron/Alakazam
Aggron/Alakazam/Alomomola
Alakazam/Alomomola/Altaria
Alomomola/Altaria/Ambipom
Altaria/Ambipom/Amoonguss
Ambipom/Amoonguss/Ampharos
Amoonguss/Ampharos/Arbok
Ampharos/Arbok/Arcanine
Arbok/Arcanine/Arceus
Arceus/Archeops/Ariados
Archeops/Ariados/Armaldo
Ariados/Armaldo/Aromatisse
Armaldo/Aromatisse/Articuno
Aromatisse/Articuno/Audino
Articuno/Audino/Aurorus
Audino/Aurorus/Avalugg
Aurorus/Avalugg/Azelf
Avalugg/Azelf/Azumarill
Azelf/Azumarill/Banette
Azumarill/Banette/Barbaracle
Banette/Barbaracle/Bastiodon
Barbaracle/Bastiodon/Beartic
Bastiodon/Beartic/Beautifly
Beartic/Beautifly/Beedrill
Beautifly/Beedrill/Beheeyem
Beedrill/Beheeyem/Bellossom
Beheeyem/Bellossom/Bibarel
Bellossom/Bibarel/Bisharp
Bibarel/Bisharp/Blastoise
Bisharp/Blastoise/Blaziken
Blaziken/Blissey/Bouffalant
Blissey/Bouffalant/Braviary
Bouffalant/Braviary/Breloom
Braviary/Breloom/Bronzong
Breloom/Bronzong/Butterfree
Bronzong/Butterfree/Cacturne
Butterfree/Cacturne/Camerupt
Cacturne/Camerupt/Carbink
Camerupt/Carbink/Carnivine
Carbink/Carnivine/Carracosta
Carnivine/Carracosta/Celebi
Carracosta/Celebi/Chandelure
Celebi/Chandelure/Charizard
Chandelure/Charizard/Chatot
Charizard/Chatot/Cherrim
Chatot/Cherrim/Chesnaught
Cherrim/Chesnaught/Chimecho
Chesnaught/Chimecho/Cinccino
Chimecho/Cinccino/Clawitzer
Cinccino/Clawitzer/Claydol
Clawitzer/Claydol/Clefable
Claydol/Clefable/Cloyster
Clefable/Cloyster/Cobalion
Cloyster/Cobalion/Cofagrigus
Cobalion/Cofagrigus/Conkeldurr
Cofagrigus/Conkeldurr/Corsola
Conkeldurr/Corsola/Cradily
Corsola/Cradily/Crawdaunt
Cradily/Crawdaunt/Cresselia
Crawdaunt/Cresselia/Crobat
Cresselia/Crobat/Crustle
Crobat/Crustle/Cryogonal
Crustle/Cryogonal/Darkrai
Darkrai/Darmanitan (all formes)/Dedenne
Darmanitan (all formes)/Dedenne/Delcatty
Dedenne/Delcatty/Delibird (trinity of suck)
Delcatty/Delibird/Delphox
Delibird/Delphox/Deoxys (all formes)
Delphox/Deoxys (all formes, only Defense and Speed are legal)/Dewgong
Deoxys/Dewgong/Dialga
Dialga/Diggersby/Ditto
Diggersby/Ditto/Dodrio
Ditto/Dodrio/Donphan
Dodrio/Donphan/Dragalge
Donphan/Dragalge/Dragonite
Dragalge/Dragonite/Drapion
Dragonite/Drapion/Drifblim
Drapion/Drifblim/Druddigon
Drifblim/Druddigon/Dugtrio
Druddigon/Dugtrio/Dunsparce
Dugtrio/Dunsparce/Durant
Dunsparce/Durant/Dusknoir
Durant/Dusknoir/Dustox
Dusknoir/Dustox/Eelektross
Dustox/Eelektross/Electivire
Eelektross/Electivire/Electrode
Electivire/Electrode/Emboar
Electrode/Emboar/Emolga
Emboar/Emolga/Empoleon
Emolga/Empoleon/Entei
Empoleon/Entei/Escavalier
Entei/Escavalier/Espeon
Escavalier/Espeon/Excadrill
Espeon/Excadrill/Exeggutor
Excadrill/Exeggutor/Exploud
Exeggutor/Exploud/Farfetch'd
Exploud/Farfetch'd/Fearow
Farfetch'd/Fearow/Feraligatr
Fearow/Feraligatr/Ferrothorn
Feraligatr/Ferrothorn/Flareon
Ferrothorn/Flareon/Floatzel
Flareon/Floatzel/Florges
Floatzel/Florges/Flygon
Florges/Flygon/Forretress
Flygon/Forretress/Froslass
Forretress/Froslass/Furfrou
Froslass/Furfrou/Gallade
Furfrou/Gallade/Galvantula
Gallade/Galvantula/Garbodor
Galvantula/Garbodor/Garchomp
Garbodor/Garchomp/Gardevoir
Garchomp/Gardevoir/Gastrodon
Gardevoir/Gastrodon/Genesect
Genesect/Gengar/Gigalith
Gengar/Gigalith/Girafarig
Gigalith/Girafarig/Giratina
Giratina/Glaceon/Glalie
Glaceon/Glalie/Gliscor
Glalie/Gliscor/Gogoat
Gliscor/Gogoat/Golduck
Gogoat/Golduck/Golem
Golduck/Golem/Golurk
Golem/Golurk/Goodra
Golurk/Goodra/Gorebyss
Goodra/Gorebyss/Gothitelle
Gorebyss/Gothitelle/Gourgeist (all sizes)
Gothitelle/Gourgeist (all sizes)/Granbull
Gourgeist (all sizes)/Granbull/Greninja
Granbull/Greninja/Groudon
Groudon/Grumpig/Gyarados
Grumpig/Gyarados/Hariyama
Gyarados/Hariyama/Hawlucha
Hariyama/Hawlucha/Haxorus
Hawlucha/Haxorus/Heatmor
Haxorus/Heatmor/Heatran
Heatmor/Heatran/Heliolisk
Heatran/Heliolisk/Heracross
Heliolisk/Heracross/Hippowdon
Heracross/Hippowdon/Hitmonchan
Hippowdon/Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee
Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee/Hitmontop (lol)
Hitmonlee/Hitmontop/Ho-oh
Ho-oh/Honchkrow/Houndoom
Honchkrow/Houndoom/Huntail
Houndoom/Huntail/Hydreigon
Huntail/Hydreigon/Hypno
Hydreigon/Hypno/Illumise
Hypno/Illumise/Infernape
Illumise/Infernape/Jellicent
Infernape/Jellicent/Jirachi
Jellicent/Jirachi/Jolteon
Jirachi/Jolteon/Jumpluff
Jolteon/Jumpluff/Jynx
Jumpluff/Jynx/Kabutops
Jynx/Kabutops/Kangaskhan
Kabutops/Kangaskhan/Kecleon (SCRAPPY SPIN)
Kangaskhan/Kecleon/Keldeo
Kecleon/Keldeo/Kingdra
Keldeo/Kingdra/Kingler
Kingdra/Kingler/Klefki
Kingler/Klefki/Klinklang
Klefki/Klinklang/Kricketune
Klinklang/Kricketune/Krookodile
Kricketune/Krookodile/Kyogre
Kyogre/Kyurem (all forms)/Landorus (all forms)
Kyurem (all forms)/Landorus (all forms)/Lanturn
Landorus (all forms)/Lanturn/Lapras
Lanturn/Lapras/Latias
Lapras/Latias/Latios
Latias/Latios/Leafeon
Latios/Leafeon/Leavanny
Leafeon/Leavanny/Ledian
Leavanny/Ledian/Lickilicky
Ledian/Lickilicky/Liepard
Lickilicky/Liepard/Lilligant
Liepard/Lilligant/Linoone
Lilligant/Linoone/Lopunny
Linoone/Lopunny/Lucario
Lopunny/Lucario/Ludicolo
Lucario/Ludicolo/Lugia
Lugia/Lumineon/Lunatone
Lumineon/Lunatone/Luvdisc
Lunatone/Luvdisc/Luxray
Luvdisc/Luxray/Machamp
Luxray/Machamp/Magcargo
Machamp/Magcargo/Magmortar
Magcargo/Magmortar/Magnezone
Magmortar/Magnezone/Malamar
Magnezone/Malamar/Mamoswine
Malamar/Mamoswine/Manaphy
Mamoswine/Manaphy/Mandibuzz
Manaphy/Mandibuzz/Manectric
Mandibuzz/Manectric/Mantine
Manectric/Mantine/Maractus
Mantine/Maractus/Marowak
Maractus/Marowak/Masquerain
Marowak/Masquerain/Mawile
Masquerain/Mawile/Medicham
Mawile/Medicham/Meganium
Medicham/Meganium/Meloetta (all forms)
Meganium/Meloetta (all forms)/Meowstic (all forms)
Meloetta (all forms)/Meowstic (all forms)/Mesprit
WORK IN PROGRESS

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You skipped Furret.

 

[MAMP]

I just want to say that I don't really like the new change; it seems really unnecessary and needlessly complexifies the ruleset, and makes the meta more difficult to keep track of. The meta was a lot of fun before this change, so why change it? More options =/= more fun.

 

[Throbulator36]

I just want to say that I don't really like the new change; it seems really unnecessary and needlessly complexifies the ruleset, and makes the meta more difficult to keep track of. The meta was a lot of fun before this change, so why change it? More options =/= more fun.

Too late! Anyway A majority of voters wanted it.

 

[MAMP]

Too late! Anyway A majority of voters wanted it.

And another thing; why was the voting period so short? 2 hours isn't long enough to allow everybody a chance to vote; I for one was asleep for the entire voting period and had no idea this was even happening.

 

[Throbulator36]

And another thing; why was the voting period so short? 2 hours isn't long enough to allow everybody a chance to vote; I for one was asleep for the entire voting period and had no idea this was even happening.

Ten votes was the limit as well. I think Sims just wanted to be done with this ordeal as soon as possible.

 

[yikes]

Ten votes was the limit as well. I think Sims just wanted to be done with this ordeal as soon as possible.

true

 

[Ranger Mike]

Seismitoad finally gets waterfall via seaking gg meta it also gets sd/coil

 

[Heroes and Cons]

Wait... how the fuck does Snorlax get Extremespeed? o_O Smeargle is not on the groups list so it cant Sketch it.

I am liking the look of Thunderbolt Volcarona , Nasty Plot Hydreigon and the insanely huge new special movepool of Greninja. Also, Aqua Tail Aegislash to take down Ground types is sweet.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Wait... how the fuck does Snorlax get Extremespeed? o_O Smeargle is not on the groups list so it cant Sketch it.

I am liking the look of Thunderbolt Volcarona , Nasty Plot Hydreigon and the insanely huge new special movepool of Greninja. Also, Aqua Tail Aegislash to take down Ground types is sweet.

It's paired with smeargle .-.

 

[Heroes and Cons]

It's paired with smeargle .-.

Slurpuff/Snorlax/Solrock <-- what it says in the OP.

 

[Throbulator36]

Slurpuff @ sitrus berry
Unburden
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 SpD
Belly Drum
Play Rough
Earthquake
Ice Punch

This is basically an enhanced version of the original Mergemons Slurpuff.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Looking at the threat list holy smokes closyter has a metagross sized movepool.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Slurpuff/Snorlax/Solrock <-- what it says in the OP.

Well simsims2800 needs to learn the alphabet cause l->m also sorry for double

 

[Throbulator36]

Well simsims2800 needs to learn the alphabet cause l->m also sorry for double

He probably left Smeargle out on purpose this time.

 

[Throbulator36]

Sorry for double post, but you forgot to list head smash as a notable new move for aerodactyl.

 

[Pikachuun]

Sorry for double post, but you forgot to list head smash as a notable new move for aerodactyl.

There's an edit button, you know...

 

[Throbulator36]

There's an edit button, you know...

I use it aaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllll the time.

 

[yikes]

He probably left Smeargle out on purpose this time.

True. I actually did leave Smeargle out on purpose. Smeargle2stronk

Sorry for double post, but you forgot to list head smash as a notable new move for aerodactyl.

Aerodactyl
Notable new moves: Shadow Sneak, Night Slash, Head Smash, Swords Dance, King's Shield, Sacred Sword, Shadow Claw, Destiny Bond, Thunder Wave, Superpower, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch

 

[Franklyna]

Carbink looks like he'd be a fun little supporter or annoyer in this metagame, thanks to getting a reliable recovery move in Synthesis. For notable moves, he gets Roar, Stockpile, and Will-o-Wisp from Camerupt, and Leech Seed, Infestation, and Synthesis from Carnivine.

 

[Throbulator36]

True. I actually did leave Smeargle out on purpose. Smeargle2stronk

I guess I wasn't looking very well when I looked at the threatlist.

 

[yikes]

New update: Wobbuffet is banned due to its access to Perish Song and reliable recovery.

 

[WoodCarboncle]

Skill Swap Slaking
Geomancy Tinted Lens Yanmega
Cosmic Power Shuckle
Defog Shuckle
Power Trick + Sucker Punch Shuckle

Bow down to Shuckle.

Edit: Ya forgot Castform.