http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41364 I don't even know what kind of argument you're trying to use. You can't figure out what overcentralizing is without it being completely arbitrary at this stage. Considering how long this thread has been around you really have no excuse. It has been discussed. "Overcentralization" is a moot term that means nothing at this point. It has never meant anything, if you even paid any attention at all. Stop throwing the term around like it means anything. Secondly you also assume "overcentralized" is the only argument that was around with Garchomp - that isn't really the case anyway.