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Misdreavus (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Heysup, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. Heysup

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    http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/misdreavus
    [Overview]


    • Great overall stats and movepool.
    • Substitute sets are dangerous.
    • Bulky sets are quite hard to take down.
    • Nasty Plot boosts its already impressive Special Attack.

    [SET]
    name: SubSneak
    move 1: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Shadow Sneak
    move 4: Hidden Power Fighting / Thunderbolt
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Hasty / Naive
    evs: 240 SpA / 240 Spe

    Set Description:
    • Easily sets up Substitute on a forced switch.
    • Life Orb Shadow Ball 1-2HKOes a large portion of the metagame.
    • Hidden Power allows Misdreavus to deal with Munchlax if it switches into Substitute as well as providing perfect coverage with Shadow Ball.
    • Thunderbolt hits everything that Shadow Ball doesn't except for Magnemite and Grass/Steel-types.
    • Shadow Sneak is a great finisher and revenge killer.
    Additional Comments:
    • Thunderbolt vs Hidden Power Fighting. Thunderbolt hits Dark/Flying while Hidden Power Fighting hits Steel-types that also resist electric and most importantly, Munchlax.
    • Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky.
    • Will-O-Wisp is an option over Substitute if you feel prediction is one of your strong points.
    • Nasty Plot is an option over Substitute as well.
    Teammates and Counters:
    • Stunky is very hard for this Misdreavus set to take out unless it runs Will-O-Wisp and Hidden Power Ground.
    • Munchlax wins if Misdreavus doesn't carry Hidden Power Fighting or Will-O-Wisp.
    • Fighting-types or secondary Ghost-types to beat Munchlax are great teammates.
    • Misdreavus can lure in Munchlax, cripple it, and allow you to sweep with your second Ghost.
    [SET]
    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1:
    Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Hidden Power Fighting / Thunderbolt
    move 4:
    Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Hidden Power Ground
    item: Oran Berry / Life Orb
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 240 SpA / 240 Spe

    Set Description:
    • Easily sets up on a forced switch.
    • Substitute eases prediction. Will-O-Wisp allows it to set up on more threats.
    • Hidden Power allows Misdreavus to deal with Munchlax if it switches into Substitute as well as providing perfect coverage with Shadow Ball.
    • Thunderbolt hits everything that Shadow Ball doesn't except for Magneton and Grass/Steel-types.
    • Nasty Plot boosts Misdreavus's already high Special Attack stat.
    Additional Comments:
    • Thunderbolt vs Hidden Power Fighting. Thunderbolt hits Dark/flying while Hidden Power Fighting hits Steel-types that also resist electric, and most importantly, Munchlax.
    • Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky.
    • Will-O-Wisp is an option over Substitute if you feel prediction is one of your strong points.
    • Item choice: Life Orb hits the hardest. Oran Berry is great for surviving a couple hits while you set up.
    Teammates and Counters:
    • Stunky is very hard for this Misdreavus set to take out unless it runs Will-O-Wisp.
    • Munchlax wins if Misdreavus doesn't carry Hidden Power Fighting or Will-O-Wisp.
    • Substitute Diglett beats Stunky.
    • Fighting-types or secondary Ghost-types to beat Munchlax are great teammates.
    • Misdreavus can lure in Munchlax, cripple it, and allow you to sweep with your second Ghost.
    [SET]
    name: Bulky Missy
    move 1: Will-O-Wisp
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3:
    Hidden Power Fighting
    move 4: Substitute / Thunderbolt / Icy Wind
    item: Oran Berry
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 236 HP / 36 Def / 236 Spe

    Set Description:
    • More defensive Misdreavus set to check more threats and still hit hard.
    • Shadow Ball is it's STAB attack.
    • Hidden Power allows Misdreavus to deal with Munchlax if it switches into Substitute as well as providing perfect coverage with Shadow Ball.
    • Thunderbolt hits everything that Shadow Ball doesn't except for Magneton and Grass/Steel-types.
    • Substitute allows Misdreavus to milk Will-O-Wisp damage.
    • Icy Wind hits Gligar very hard on the switch.
    Additional Comments:
    • Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky.
    Teammates and Counters:
    • Stunky is very hard for this Misdreavus set to take out unless it runs Will-O-Wisp.
    • Munchlax wins if Misdreavus doesn't carry Hidden Power Fighting or Will-O-Wisp.
    • Substitute Diglett beats Stunky.
    • Fighting-types or secondary Ghost-types to beat Munchlax are great teammates.
    • Misdreavus can lure in Munchlax, cripple it, and allow you to sweep with your second Ghost.
    [Team Options]


    • Something to switch into Munchlax.
    • Something to lure and possibly KO Stunky.
    • Misdreavus can lure its counters, and since it's so powerful, severely cripple (and sometimes beat) them. This allows other Ghost-types to sweep, making an effective double-Ghost strategy.
    [Other Options]
    • Choice sets don't help Misdreavus much, since Pursuit is so common, but a Choice Specs or Scarf set would work otherwise. Icy Wind makes a great final move on a Scarf set to catch Gligar off guard.
    • Hidden Power Ground is always an option to beat Stunky.
    [Counters]


    • Stunky is hard for Misdreavus to beat.
    • Munchlax traps and KOes most Misdreavus.
    • Houndour, specifically Scarf variants, can switch into any attack besides Hidden Power Fighting and KO Misdreavus.
  2. Heysup

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  3. Bologo

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    lol no wonder this set is so strong, it requires Missy to be hacked. xD
  4. Heysup

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    I thought missy could reach 55 Special Attack -_-. Nice catch Bologo.
  5. Alan

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    bumping this

    Misdreavus (M) @ Evolution Stone Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 36 HP / 40 Def / 80 SAtk / 80 SDef / 240 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Substitute / Pain Split


    ive been using that set, its pretty cool for a fairly fast subber (19 speed yes please), burns important stuff like toxicroak, speed ties with gligar etc. evo stone helps it a ton too, still loses to pants lizard with shed skin.


    not sure if the ev spread is "optimal" or whatever. i just put in pain split per nails post below
  6. Nails

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    Pain Split over subs is also good (plays very differently obviously), it gives it more survivability. Either way, an evo stone set needs to be listed.

    Edit: The spread I used moved the SpA point into defense to let evo stone give a bonus point (even number).
  7. Shnoogle

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    On bulky Missy you have 236 HP listed, when it only takes 196 EVs to max that stat
  8. Darkamber8828

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    The Bulky Missy set says

    But WoW has its own slot, it isn't slashed with anything.

    Also, is it worth running bulk on the boosting set? 196 hp/76 spa/236 spe @ Oran seems good.

    You also mention Magneton, and Tess is the only Grass/Steel type, so...

    Also, Taunt really isn't that great. And HP Fighting should be on the Defensive set, since Krow is neutered once it's burned.
  9. EonADS

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    Pretty sure you mean Magnemite.
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    You should mention that if you run HP Fighting the EVs should be 28 Def / 240 SpA / 240 Spe to make up for the loss in IVs.
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    Icy Wind deserves a mention as well Heysup ~

    Also remove mentions of Berry Juice..

    In fact this pretty much just needs to be revised.
  12. Heysup

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    Haven't updated it yet...actually I'm QCing this currently anyway so I can just update it myself now....


    Finished updating, will reorder the sets when i rewrite.
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    Discussed this with SkyNet on IRC.

    (QC Approved 2/2)
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