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Misdreavus (Calm Mind)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by iss, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. iss

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    Sorry for the delay.

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    [SET]
    name: Calm Mind
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Calm Mind
    move 4: Shadow Ball
    item: Eviolite
    nature: Bold
    evs: 196 HP / 196 Def / 76 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While at first glance Nasty Plot may seem to be Misdreavus's best boosting move, it also has access to Calm Mind. By using its decent bulk, good typing, and Levitate, Misdreavus can easily set up a few Calm Minds on many common Pokemon in the metagame, such as Croagunk, Staryu, Shroomish, and many other defensive Pokemon. Once it obtains these boosts, Misdreavus is practically unstoppable bar strong physical super effective attacks or Pokemon that are immune to Shadow Ball. Rest is Misdreavus's only form of recovery outside of the extremely unreliable Pain Split. Sleep Talk has the added benefit of possibly enabling Misdreavus to get even more Calm Mind boosts while it is asleep. Despite its shortcomings, Shadow Ball is the attacking move of choice here. While Normal-types are immune to it, any other move that Misdreavus could use would be much weaker against non-Normal-type Pokemon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs maximize Misdreavus's physical bulk, as Misdreavus cannot boost that side of its defenses. The EVs in Special Defense give Misdreavus a bonus Eviolite point. An alternative would be to use an EV spread of 36 HP / 196 Def / 236 Spe with a Timid nature to take advantage of Misdreavus's naturally fast Speed. However, if it is Speed that is desired, one of Misdreavus's other sets would most likely do the job better.</p>

    <p>As this set's only attacking move is Shadow Ball, Misdreavus cannot possibly defeat Normal-types, most notably Porygon. Therefore, Fighting-types, such as Mienfoo, are useful to defeat opposing Normal-type Pokemon [repetition]. Mienfoo in particular is an excellent teammate for Misdreavus, as it checks Scraggy, who sets up extremely easily on this set, and can provide opportunities for Misdreavus to set up with U-turn. As this set can tank hits from almost any Pokemon in the metagame once it sets up, sources of residual damage are much appreciated. Snover and Hippopotas provide hail and sand, respectively, which can allow Misdreavus to deal quite a bit of damage without even attacking. Toxic Spikes users, such as Tentacool, are also extremely helpful in order to provide Misdreavus with an additional damage source. Lastly, Misdreavus needs help in defeating strong physical attackers who resist Shadow Ball, such as Stunky and Scraggy. The aforementioned Mienfoo does this well, as well as other bulky Pokemon such as Shelmet.</p>
  2. Ray Jay

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    Mention that Koffing is an unorthodox but pro teammate!

    Other than that geez this took you long enough

    QC 1/2
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    Mention HP Fighting > Sleep Talk (but say it's probably not a good idea) and Diglett as a teammate (to checkmate a wounded Porygon). Aside from Normal-type Pokemon (like Munchlax, that requires a mention), talk about how Scraggy / Pawniard can set up on you without fear. Remove the line about Misdreavus beating Porygon. That doesn't happen--Porygon has Shadow Ball, not Ice Beam. If it gets a single crit it wins. Expand further on good teammates aside from just Fighting-type Pokemon. I'm thinking Fighting-type Pokemon, Snover, Hippopotas, Diglett, Scraggy checks, Knock Off users, things with Toxic, Tentacool (I want a big mention of Toxic Spike support).

    All of that and QC 2/2.
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    Get this written up. I want all current LC analyses finished so we have a load off our shoulders while we learn the new metagame, and make updates then.
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    pc++ but ok blarajan i'll get this done within a few hours
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    Ready for GP.
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    Amateur GP Check

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    [SET]
    name: Calm Mind
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Calm Mind
    move 4: Shadow Ball
    item: Eviolite
    nature: Bold
    evs: 196 HP / 196 Def / 76 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While at first glance Nasty Plot may seem to be Misdreavus's best boosting move, it also has access to Calm Mind. Using its decent bulk, good typing, and Levitate, Misdreavus can easily set up a few Calm Minds on many common Pokemon in the metagame, such as Croagunk, Staryu, Shroomish, and many other defensive Pokemon. Once it obtains these boosts, Misdreavus is practically unstoppable bar strong physical super effective attacks or Pokemon that are immune to Shadow Ball. Rest (and its partner, Sleep Talk) make foris Misdreavus's only form of recovery outside of the extremely unreliable Pain Split. Sleep Talk has the added benefit of possibly allowing Misdreavus to get even more Calm Mind boosts while asleep. Despite its shortcomings, Shadow Ball is the attacking move of choice here. While Normal-types are immune to it, any other move that Misdreavus could use would be much weaker against non-Normal-type Pokemon.</p>

    [Additional CommentsADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs maximize Misdreavus's physical bulk, as Misdreavus cannot boost that side of its defenses. The EVs in Special Defense give Misdreavus a bonus Eviolite point. An alternative would be to use an EV spread of 36 HP / 196 Def / 236 Spe with a Timid nature to abuse Misdreavus's naturally fast Speed. However, if it is Speed that is desired, one of Misdreavus's other sets would most likely do the job better.</p>

    <p>As this set's only attacking move is Shadow Ball, Misdreavus cannot defeat Normal-types, most notably Porygon. Therefore, Fighting-types, such as Mienfoo, are useful to defeat opposing Normal-types. Mienfoo,(remove comma) in particular,(remove comma) is an excellent teammate for Misdreavus, as it checks Scraggy, who sets up extremely easily on this set, and can provide opportunities for Misdreavus to set up with U-turn. Since Because this set can tank hits from almost any Pokemon in the metagame once it is set up, sources of residual damage are much appreciated by this Misdreavus. Snover and Hippopotas provide hail and sand, respectively, which can allow Misdreavus to deal quite a bit of damage without even attacking. Toxic Spikes users, such as Tentacool, are also extremely helpful in order to provide Misdreavus with an additional damage source. Lastly, Misdreavus needs help in defeating strong physical attackers who resist Shadow Ball, such as Stunky and Scraggy. The aforementioned Mienfoo does this well, as well as other bulky Pokemon,(remove comma) such as Shelmet.</p>
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    Implemented. Thanks DittoCrow!
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    Looks good, just remove the two commas in the phrase " Mienfoo, in particular, is etc. "

    Stamping DittoCrow's check for GP 1/2
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    Cool. Ready for check number two!
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    c/p (open)

    [SET]
    name: Calm Mind
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Calm Mind
    move 4: Shadow Ball
    item: Eviolite
    nature: Bold
    evs: 196 HP / 196 Def / 76 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While at first glance Nasty Plot may seem to be Misdreavus's best boosting move, it also has access to Calm Mind. By using its decent bulk, good typing, and Levitate, Misdreavus can easily set up a few Calm Minds on many common Pokemon in the metagame, such as Croagunk, Staryu, Shroomish, and many other defensive Pokemon. Once it obtains these boosts, Misdreavus is practically unstoppable bar strong physical super effective attacks or Pokemon that are immune to Shadow Ball. Rest is Misdreavus's only form of recovery outside of the extremely unreliable Pain Split. Sleep Talk has the added benefit of possibly enabling Misdreavus to get even more Calm Mind boosts while it is asleep. Despite its shortcomings, Shadow Ball is the attacking move of choice here. While Normal-types are immune to it, any other move that Misdreavus could use would be much weaker against non-Normal-type Pokemon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs maximize Misdreavus's physical bulk, as Misdreavus cannot boost that side of its defenses. The EVs in Special Defense give Misdreavus a bonus Eviolite point. An alternative would be to use an EV spread of 36 HP / 196 Def / 236 Spe with a Timid nature to take advantage of Misdreavus's naturally fast Speed. However, if it is Speed that is desired, one of Misdreavus's other sets would most likely do the job better.</p>

    <p>As this set's only attacking move is Shadow Ball, Misdreavus cannot possibly defeat Normal-types, most notably Porygon. Therefore, Fighting-types, such as Mienfoo, are useful to defeat opposing Normal-type Pokemon [repetition]. Mienfoo in particular is an excellent teammate for Misdreavus, as it checks Scraggy, who sets up extremely easily on this set, and can provide opportunities for Misdreavus to set up with U-turn. As this set can tank hits from almost any Pokemon in the metagame once it sets up, sources of residual damage are much appreciated. Snover and Hippopotas provide hail and sand, respectively, which can allow Misdreavus to deal quite a bit of damage without even attacking. Toxic Spikes users, such as Tentacool, are also extremely helpful in order to provide Misdreavus with an additional damage source. Lastly, Misdreavus needs help in defeating strong physical attackers who resist Shadow Ball, such as Stunky and Scraggy. The aforementioned Mienfoo does this well, as well as other bulky Pokemon such as Shelmet.</p>


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    Thanks SkullCandy! This is now done.
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    i'll upload

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