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LC Misdreavus

Discussion in 'Preliminary Pokedex' started by TCR, May 3, 2014.

  1. TCR

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    Overview
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    Misdreavus is one of the most versatile Pokemon in LC. With wide coverage options in Dazzling Gleam and Thunderbolt, it can often break through its own counters. Misdreavus is the best Nasty Plot sweeper in the tier, 2HKOing even specially bulky Porygon with a +2 Hidden Power Fighting. After the banning of Murkrow, Misdreavus remains one of the few Pokemon that hits 19 Speed, allowing it to outspeed almost the entire tier. Misdreavus can easily dent the opponent's team, often allowing other Pokemon to sweep. However, with XY came the rise of Knock Off. Misdreavus is OHKOed by Knock Off on less bulky sets and does not appreciate losing its Eviolite on the bulkier sets. Even with the coverage options that Misdreavus has, it often runs a straight-forward moveset, making it fairly predictable.

    Nasty Plot Attacker
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    name: Nasty Plot Attacker
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt
    move 4: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Taunt
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
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    Nasty Plot is the primary stat-boosting move, skyrocketing Misdreavus's already high Special Attack. Shadow Ball is Misdreavus's primary STAB move, OHKOing an incredible amount of Pokemon at +2 and is blessed with arguably the best offensive coverage in Little Cup. Dazzling Gleam is the primary coverage move and notably OHKOes Scraggy, while still hitting Vullaby for super effective damage and Pawniard neutrally. Hidden Power Fighting is still one of the best options for Misdreavus, notably dealing a large amount of damage to Pawniard without any boosts, while also 2HKOing Porygon, a very common Misdreavus check. However, using Hidden Power Fighting can lead to Pokemon such as Vullaby countering Misdreavus. Substitute is also a usable move, allowing Misdreavus to set up on Pokemon with status moves and avoiding mindgames with Pawniard. Substitute can also be used when forcing a switch to have an easier time setting up Nasty Plot. Will-O-Wisp is very notable in the current metagame due to it burning the omnipresent physical attackers of LC and essentially making them useless. Destiny Bond is also a good move for Misdreavus to use, as it prevents Carvanha from setting up on Misdreavus and also can pick off Pawniard while deterring the use of Sucker Punch.

    Set Details
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    The EV spread maximizes Midreavus's Special Attack and Speed while leaving a point invested into HP. If Hidden Power Fighting is used, an EV spread of 240 Special Attack and 240 Speed should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers both Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. If Eviolite is used, the 36 HP EVs can be moved to Defense. Berry Juice is a great item to allow Misdreavus to set up on resisted or weaker hits and possibly be rejuvenated to full health. Misdreavus is already decently bulky, allowing it to live a large amount of hits. However, Eviolite grants Misdreavus excellent bulk, allowing it to set up on a large amount of Pokemon.

    Usage Tips
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    Simply bring Misdreavus in on any Pokemon that is unable to damage or threaten it and then use a Nasty Plot in order to begin smashing the opponent. If using Nasty Plot isn't favorable and the opponent has a Pawniard, Substitute or Will-O-Wisp can be used as an alternative. Substitute allows Misdreavus to either safely switch out of Pawniard or safely OHKO it with Hidden Power Fighting. Early-game, Misdreavus can simply spam Will-O-Wisp in order to cripple the opponent and then set up Nasty Plot later. With Eviolite, Misdreavus does best mid- to late-game, cleaning up the opponent's team. With Berry Juice, Misdreavus is best used as an early- to mid-game wallbreaker. Substitute is most recommended to be used with Berry Juice, as one can use Substitute multiple times to the point where Berry Juice activates.

    Team Options
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    Fighting-types are great partners for this set, as Misdreavus despises bulky Normal-types such as Porygon and Munchlax. Choice Scarf Pokemon and Carvanha are excellent partners for this set offensively as well, as they can clean up after Misdreavus rips holes through the opponent's team. Carvahna also can KO Pokemon that Misdreavus normally has trouble with, such as Porygon or Munchlax. Fletchling is a great partner, as Misdreavus, despite being a Ghost-type, cannot usually safely switch in on Fighting-types due to the possibility of Knock Off and Fletchling forces most Fighting-types out. Fletchling can also take advantage of Misdreavus's ability to set up on Pokemon such as Archen and Chinchou.

    Choiced Attacker
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    name: Choiced Attacker
    move 1: Trick
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt / Psychic
    move 4: Destiny Bond
    ability: Levitate
    item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
    evs: 36 HP / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Modest / Timid

    Moves
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    Trick is the key move of this set; it cripples any Pokemon of your choice after the Choice item's utility has worn out. This allows Trick to cripple the opponent's best answer to Misdreavus. Shadow Ball is the main STAB move and is a great move to spam for a Choiced attacker in XY. Dazzling Gleam is the optimal complimentary move to Shadow Ball, allowing the Choice Scarf set to revenge kill Scraggy and also giving Misdreavus near perfect coverage. Hidden Power Fighting can be used to deal a large amount of damage to Porygon and Pawniard that wish to switch in and force Misdreavus out. Thunderbolt can be used to defeat Fletchling and Archen, but outside of those, Shadow Ball or Dazzling Gleam are more beneficial. Psychic can be used in order to OHKO Croagunk and have decent coverage with Shadow Ball, as well as hitting Porygon harder, but again, it is inferior outside of niche situations. Destiny Bond is used in the last slot to allow Misdreavus to KO a threat for another teammate.

    Set Details
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    The EV spread gives Misdreavus maximum Special Attack and Speed. If using Hidden Power Fighting, an EV spread of 240 SpA / 240 Spe should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. Modest is the best nature for the Choice Scarf set, as not much can outspeed an 18 Speed Choice Scarf Pokemon. However, Timid should be used on the Choice Specs set in order to outrun most of the tier. Choice Scarf has more utility, as it can actually revenge kill sweepers and generally will Trick its Scarf later in the match, if ever. Choice Specs grants a decent amount of initial power, but generally is a more crippling item for walls to hold.

    Usage Tips
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    If you are using the Choice Scarf set, analyze your opponent's team to see how useful it will be. Do not Trick early in the game like the Choice Specs set; wait closer until end-game to Trick the Choice Scarf and setup to sweep. If Misdreavus is using Choice Specs, scout your opponent's checks and counters to Misdreavus. Around mid-game, you can Trick the Choice Specs to that check or counter and then set up and attempt a sweep if the conditions are right.

    Team Options
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    This set generally tries to open its own setup opportunities through the use of Trick, but it appreciates support from Fighting-types for Pokemon such as Pawniard and Porygon that can pose problems as well.

    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Shadow Ball
    move 2: Will-O-Wisp
    move 3: Taunt / Pain Split / Substitute
    move 4: Heal Bell / Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting]
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
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    Shadow Ball is the main STAB move, as it has great neutral coverage and a consistent damage output. Will-O-Wisp is very important on this set, as burning a Pokemon is extremely useful in the current metagame, making this move a necessity to cripple Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Pawniard, and Fletchling. Taunt has always been one of the best moves when used correctly. Misdreavus can outspeed and Taunt every single Shell Smash user in LC. It can also defeat defensive Pokemon and entry hazard users with this. Pain Split can be used if a more defensive set is required. Eviolite is always the best item if using Pain Split. Substitute can be used instead in order to avoid Sucker Punch and Knock Off from Pokemon such as Pawniard, as well as generally scouting against the opponent. Heal Bell should be used in the 4th slot, as Misdreavus can function well as a cleric due to its ability force many Pokemon out, and can allow for an opportunity to get rid of paralysis or other status effects. Dazzling Gleam has better neutral coverage with Ghost and notably OHKOes Scraggy. Hidden Power [Fighting] can be used over Dazzling Gleam in order to pose a mild threat to Porygon and Munchlax, while outright OHKOing Pawniard.

    Set Details
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    The EVs are standard due to the fact that Misdreavus has solid natural bulk and its 19 Speed is very valuable. If Eviolite is used, the 36 Def EVs can be moved to HP. Berry Juice is the item of choice due to the fact Misdreavus has no reliable recovery, making the HP restoration very valuable. Eviolite can be used if Pain Split is used, as the longevity will really help bulkier teams.

    Usage Tips
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    Misdreavus should generally just burn switch-ins early-game and try to cripple the opponent's entire team to make your teammates' lives easier. This set functions well as a lead due to both Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, as well as it having a generally good match-up with most Pokemon. On stall based teams, Misdreavus should be kept as healthy as possible to perform clerical duties.

    Team Options
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    This Misdreavus is an excellent partner to many Dark-types, most notably Pawniard, as Will-O-Wisp allows Pawniard to set up much better. Misdreavus can also be a decent glue, helping to patch up weaknesses and forcing switches so that other sweepers such as Scraggy can set up and sweep the opponent's team.

    Other Options
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    Misdreavus can run a Calm Mind set in order to beat specific stall teams, but this set is generally too slow to be effective. In terms of individual move options, Misdreavus can run Icy Wind to slow down switch-ins, although it is generally too weak. Taunt is an option on all the offensive Misdreavus sets, but Substitute is generally a better option. Thunderbolt can be used as it OHKOes Fletchling, but outside of that, Shadow Ball and Dazzling Gleam usually provide better coverage. On the Choice sets, Nasty Plot is an option so after using Trick, Misdreavus can set up. However, before getting rid of its item, Nasty Plot is essentially a wasted moveslot that could very well have been a coverage move. Memento is an amazing option and can often be used over Destiny Bond. Memento allows Misdreavus to sacrifice itself, allowing a devastating sweeper such as Tirtouga or Zigzagoon to sweep. Life Orb is a decent item on Misdreavus if a player favors power but doesn't want the drawbacks of being locked into one move when using the Choice Specs. However, the power increase is usually not worth the loss in bulk or the ability to gain health in a pinch and be ready to go in late-game.

    Checks & Counters
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    **Bulky Normal-types**: Pokemon such as Porygon, Munchlax, or Lickitung usually counter Misdreavus, although they must watch out for a Nasty Plot boosted Hidden Power Fighting. However, Munchlax and Lickitung can usually be defeated by Taunt or a Will-O-Wisp.

    **Pawniard**: If Misdreavus does not run Hidden Power Fighting then Pawniard can usually switch in, often abusing a possible Special Defense drop from Shadow Ball. However, it must watch out for Will-O-Wisp. Choice Scarf Pawniard can usually trap it as well.

    **Houndour**: Houndour can switch in on any move Misdreavus has to offer except for Hidden Power Fighting and either Pursuit trap Misdreavus or hit it with Dark Pulse.

    **Vullaby**: If Misdreavus is carrying Hidden Power Fighting, then Vullaby is a great answer to Misdreavus.

    **Scraggy**: Scraggy can always set up on Misdreavus lacking Dazzling Gleam and often doesn't need to worry about the burn from Will-O-Wisp, as Scraggy can have the Shed Skin ability.

    **Priority users**: Misdreavus has to worry about being revenge killed by priority users such as Fletchling or Pawniard.
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  2. sparktrain

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    Change all 36 SpD EVs to HP (36 EVs in SpD doesn't do anything)
    Mention that if HP Fighting is used, EVs should be 240 SpA / 240 Spe to account for the IV drop.
    T-Bolt in OO (it's not great since d-gleam already hits vullaby, shadow ball hits poke, etc, but it one-shots Fletchling I guess)
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    three things you should consider:
    -36 hp evs should be def on sets with Berry juice as the main item. hp is fine otherwise with eviolite
    -why is nasty plot not on the choice set? I believe the original idea of TrickSpecs was to smack stuff around before tricking a check and setting up np
    - I'd mention lo in the first set as an alternative for more power
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    Not too sure about life orb, afaik missy doesnt get any koes with it it wouldnt otherwise other than like a 2hko on bulky drilbur. Nasty plot was deemed not useful by other users who i talked to because Tricking a specs to set up is a lot harder in practice as stall is basically dead and Bulky NP miss is far better for that, as well as Berry Juice

    Id like more thoughts on qc on both tho
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    1) Nasty Plot looks a little bit messy with two Dazzling Gleam slashes and it's missing a fairly popular and effective option in Thunderbolt (which is needed to get KOes on things like Archen and Fletchling). I would probably make it look something like this:

    nasty plot (open)
    Nasty Plot
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    name: Nasty Plot Attacker
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt
    move 4: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Taunt
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 HP / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid



    2) TrickChoice is honestly a mixed bag of every possible move combination in the last two slots. It should be Trick / Shadow Ball with like Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power Fighting / Thunderbolt / Psychic (I forget what this does but it does something, and the latter two can probably just be mentioned) and Destiny Bond / Will-O-Wisp / Nasty Plot in another slot but this one is probably up to you as long as the first slashes are Trick / Shadow Ball / Dazzling Gleam / Destiny Bond with scarf slashed before specs (like this: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs) and Modest / Timid as the natures.

    3) I'm not sure why it's called "bulky support" it has the exact same EVs as the other sets. I would just call it "support". And Heal Bell needs to be a main Slash, not mentioned in OO. I've rarely seen anyone use this set without Heal Bell.

    I'll probably 1/3 this after changes but it's a lot so I'll wait to see after.

    qc 1/3
    Last edited: May 8, 2014
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    you dont even mention LO at all
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    qc 2/3

    ill double post all day
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    at least mention nasty plot for the choice set then qc 3/3
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    This is done, and ready for a final QC check before it moves onto GP
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    alright looks fine move it to gp
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    Psychic with specs or a life orb gets the OHKO on mienfoo.
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    Overview
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    Misdreavus is one of the most versatile Pokemon in the Little Cup tier. With wide coverage options in Dazzling Gleam and Thunderbolt, it can often pushbreak through its own counters. Misdreavus is the best Nasty Plot sweeper in the tier, 2hkoHKOing even specially bulky Porygon with a +2 Hidden Power [Fighting]. After the banning of Murkrow, Misdreavus remains one of the few Pokemon that hits 19 Speed Pokemon, so, allowing it to outspeeds almost the wholentire tier. Misdreavus can easily dent the opponent's team, often allowing others Pokemon to sweep. However, with generation 6XY came the rise in Knock Off. Misdreavus is OHKOed by Knock Off on less bulky sets, and does not appreciate losing its Eviolite on the bulkier sets. Even with the coverage options that Misdreavus has, it often only runs a limitestraight-forward moveset, thus can bemaking it fairly predictable.

    Nasty Plot Attacker
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    name: Nasty Plot Attacker
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt
    move 4: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Taunt
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Nasty Plot is the obvious primary stat-boosting move, allowskyrocketing Misdreavus's already high Special Attack to skyrocket. Shadow Ball is the obvioMisdreavus's primary STAB move, OHKOing an incredible amount of Pokemon at +2 and is blessed with the arguably the best offensive typcoverage in Little Cup. Dazzling Gleam is the new releasedprimary coverage move for Misdreavus, and notably OHKOs Scraggy, once the bane of Misdreavus, while still hitting Vullaby for super effectively damage and Pawniard neutrally. Hidden Power Fighting is still one of the best options for Misdreavus, notably dealing witha large amount of damage to Pawniard without boosting, and it canwhile also 2HKOing Porygon, a very common Misdreavus answer. Ucheck. However, using Hidden Power [Fighting] can lead to Pokemon such as Vullaby to counter you, howevering Misdreavus. Substitute is also a worthyusable move, allowing Missydreavus to set- up on Pokemon with status spreading Pokemonmoves and avoiding Pawniard's Pursuit mindgamesmindgames with Pawniard. Substitute can also be used when forcing a switch to have an easier time to setting up a Nasty Plot. Will-oO-Wisp is very notable in the current metagame, due to it burning the omnipresent physical attackers of Little Cup and essentially tmaking them out of the gameuseless. Destiny Bond is a good move for Misdreavus to runuse, as it prevents Carvanha from setting up on Misdreavus, and also can pick off Pawniards and disincentivize Sucker Punch.[/COLOR]
    Set Details
    ========

    The EV spread allows for maximummaximizes Midreavus's Special Attack and maximum Speed, while leaving a point invested into HP. If Hidden Power [Fighting] is used, an EV spread of 240 Special Attack / and 240 Speed should be used, as Hidden Power [Fighting] lowers both Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. If Eviolite is used, the 36 HP EVs can be moved to Defense. Berry Juice is a great toolitem to set up on resisted hits or weaker ones, and possibly be rejuventated to full health. Misdreavus is decently bulky, allowing it to live tonsa large amount of hits. However, Eviolite however, grants Misdreavus excellent bulk, allowing it to set up on so many thingsa large amount of Pokemon.

    Usage Tips
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    Simply bring in Misdreavus in on any Pokemon unable to touch it, and then notchuse a Nasty Plot in order to begin smashing in the opponent. If ausing Nasty Plot isn't favorable and the opponent has a Pawniard, Substitute or Will-oO-Wisp can be used as an alternative. Substitute allows Misdreavus to either safely switch out, of Pawniard or safely OHKO it with Hidden Power Fighting. Early -game, youMisdreavus can simply spam Will-oO-Wisp in order to cripple the opponent, and then set up Nasty Plot later. With Eviolite, Misdreavus does best mid- to late -game cleaning the opponent's team. With Berry Juice, Misdreavus is best used as an early- to mid -game wallbreaker. Substitute is recommended mostly to be used with Berry Juice, as one can use Substitute downmultiple times to the point where Berry Juice activates.

    Team Options
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    Fighting -types are great partners for this set well, as Misdreavus despises bulky Normal Pokemon like-types such as Porygon and Munchlax, who as suich fear Fighting -types. Choice Scarf Pokemon and Carvanha are excellent partners for this wellset offensively as well, as they can clean up after Misdreavus rips holes through the opponent's team. Carvahna also can KO Pokemon that Misdreavus normally has trouble with, such as Porygon or Munchlax. Fletchling is a great partner, as Misdreavus, despite being a Ghost-type, can not usually safely switch in on Fighting-types due to Knock Off, and Fletchling forces all Fighting-types out. Fletchling can also take advantage of Misdreavus' ability to generally set up on Pokemon such as Archen and Chinchou.

    Choiced Attacker
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    name: Choiced Attacker
    move 1: Trick
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt / Psychic
    move 4: Destiny Bond
    ability: Levitate
    item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
    evs: 36 HP / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Modest / Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Trick is the key move of the choicedis sets; it cripples any Pokemon of your choice after you deem the cChoice item's utility being doneis decreased. This allows it generallyTrick to cripple the opponent's best answer to Misdreavus. Shadow Ball is the main powerful STAB, move and is a great move to spam while cfor a Choiced attacker in XY. Dazzling Gleam is the optimal complimentary move to Shadow Ball, allowing the sChoice Scarf sets to revenged kill Scraggy, and also giving Misdreavus near perfect coverage. Hidden Power [Fighting] can be used to deal a larget the jump on amount of damage to Porygon and Pawniard whothat wish to switch in and force Misdreavus out. Thunderbolt can beat ou used to defeat Fletchling and Archen, althoughbut outside of those, Shadow Ball or Dazzling Gleam are more beneficial. Psychic can be used in order to OHKO Croagunk and have decent coverage with Shadow Ball, as well as hitting Porygon harder, but again, it is inferior outside of niche situations. Destiny Bond is used in the last slot soto allow Misdreavus can takeo KO a threat out for another teammate.

    Set Details
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    The EV spread gives Misdreavus maximum Special Attack and max Speed. If using Hidden Power [Fighting], an EV spread of 240 SpA / 240 Spe should be used, as Hidden Power [Fighting] lowers the Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. Modest is best nature for the Choice Scarf set, as not much can outrunspeed an 18 base sSpeed Choice Scarfer, h Pokemon. However, Timid should be used with thon the Choice Specs set in order to outrun most of the tier. Choice Scarf has more utility, as it can actually revenge kill sweepers, and generally will Trick its Scarf later in the match, if ever. It is a great choice for a revenge killer. Choice Specs grants a decent amount of initial power, but generally is a more crippling item for walls to hold.

    Usage Tips
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    If you are using the Choice Scarf set, analyze your opponent's team to see how useful it will be. Generally, dDo not Trick this early in the game like the Choice Specs set; wait nearcloser to theuntil end -game to Trick the Choice Scarf and set up to sweep. If Misdreavus is using Choice Specs, scout your opponent's checks answd counters to Misdreavus. Around mid -game, you can tTrick the Choice Specs to that answcheck or counter and then set up and attempt a sweep if the conditions are right.

    Team Options
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    This set generally tries to open its own set up opportunities through the use of Trick, but it appreciates support from Fighting support-types for Pokemon stuff likeuch as Pawniard and Porygon that can pose problems as well.

    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Shadow Ball
    move 2: Will-oO-Wisp

    move 3: Taunt / Pain Split / Substitute
    move 4: Heal Bell / Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting]
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
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    Shadow Ball is the main STAB move, standard fare withas it has great nuetral coverage and a consistent damage output. Will-oO-Wisp is very important on this set, oriented towards distributing burns. Burn is extremely notable in the current metagame, making this move a necessity, as it ca ton cripple Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Pawniard, and Fletchling. Taunt has always been one of the best moves when used correctly. Misdreavus can outspeed and Taunt every single Shell Smash user in LC. It can also defeat defensive Pokemon and entry hazard Pokemonusers through this. Pain Split can be used if a tankiermore defensive set is required, although. Eviolite is always the bestter item if using Pain Split. Substitute can be used instead in order to avoid Sucker Punch and Knock Off from Pokemon such as Pawniard, as well as generally scouting against the opponent. Heal Bell should be used in the 4th slot, as Misdreavus can function well as a cleric, as Misdreavus often due to its ability forces many pPokemon out, and can allow for an opportunity to get rid of Pparalysis or other status effects. Dazzling Gleam, Misdreavus's new move, has better neutral coverage with Ghost and notably OHKOs Scraggy. Hidden Power [Fighting] can be used over Dazzling Gleam in order to pose a mild threat to Porygon and Munchlax, while outright KOing Pawniard.

    Set Details
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    The EVs are standard due to the fact that Misdreavus has solid enough natural bulk, and theits 19 sSpeed tier is very valuable. They allow maximum Special Attack and maximum Speed. If Eviolite is used, the 36 Def EVs can be moved to HP. Berry Juice is the item of choice due to the fact Misdreavus has no reliable recovery, making the fullHP restorationg of HP very valuable. Eviolite can be used if Pain Split is used, as the longevity will really help bulkier teams.

    Usage Tips
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    Misdreavus should generally just burn switch -ins early -game and try to cripple the opponent's entire team to simplify the life of another Pokemon. This set functions well as a lead due to both Taunt and Will-oO-Wisp, as well as it having a generally good matchup with most Pokemon. On stall based teams, Misdreavus should be kept as healthy as possible so as to perform clerical duties.

    Team Options
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    This Misdreavus is an excellent partner to many Dark -types, most notably Pawniard, as Will-oO-Wisp allows Pawniard to set up much better. Misdreavus can also be a decent glue, helping to patch up weaknesses and forcing switches enough that other sweepers such as Scraggy can set up and KOsweep the opponent's team.

    Other Options
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    Misdreavus can run a Calm Mind set in order to beat specific stall teams, but theis set is generally too slow to be effective. In terms of individual move options, Misdreavus can run Icy Wind to slow down switch -ins, although it is generally too weak. Taunt is an option on all the offensive Misdreavus sets, but Substitute is generally a better option. Thunderbolt can be used as it OHKOes Fletchling, but outside of that, Shadow Ball +and Dazzling Gleam is usually provide better coverage. In the Choice sets, Nasty Plot is an option, so after ausing Trick, Misdreavus can set up. However, before getting rid of its item, Nasty Plot is essentially a wasted moveslot, that could very well have been a coverage move. Memento is an amazing option, and can often be ranused over Destiny Bond. Memento allows Misdreavus to suicideacrifice itself, allowing a devastating sweeper such as Tirtouga or Zigzagoon to sweep. Life Orb is a decent item on Misdreavus if a player favors power, but doesn't want the drawbacks of being locked into one move when using athe Choice Specs. However, the power increase isn't usually not worth the loss in bulk, or the ability to gain health in a pinch and be ready to go in the late -game, like the Eviolite and Berry Juice sets do.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Bulky Normal-types**: Pokemon such as Porygon, Munchlax, or Lickitung usually counter Misdreavus, although they have tomust watch out for a Nasty Plot boosted Hidden Power [Fighting], and Munchlax and Lickitung can usually be bdefeatend by Taunt or a Will-O-Wisp.

    **Pawniard**: If Misdreavus does not run Hidden Power [Fighting] then Pawniard can usually switch in, often abusing a possible Special Defense drop from Shadow Ball drop.. However, It has tomust watch out for a Will-O-Wisp though.. Choice Scarf Pawniard can usually trap it as well.
    **Houndour**: Houndour can switch in on any move Misdreavus has to offer except for Hidden Power [Fighting] and alsoeither Pursuit trap Misdreavus, or hit it with a Dark Pulse.
    **Vullaby**: If Misdreavus is carrying Hidden Power [Fighting], then Vullaby is a great answer to Misdreavus.
    **Scraggy**: Scraggy can always set up on Misdreavus lacking Dazzling Gleam, and often doesn't need to worry about the Bburn from Will-oO-Wisp, as Scraggy can runuse Shed Skin.
    **Priority users**: Misdreavus has to worry about being revenge killed by priority users, such as Fletchling or Pawniard.

    C/P (open)

    Overview
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    Misdreavus is one of the most versatile Pokemon in LC. With wide coverage options in Dazzling Gleam and Thunderbolt, it can often break through its own counters. Misdreavus is the best Nasty Plot sweeper in the tier, 2HKOing even specially bulky Porygon with a +2 Hidden Power Fighting. After the banning of Murkrow, Misdreavus remains one of the few Pokemon that hits 19 Speed, allowing it to outspeed almost the entire tier. Misdreavus can easily dent the opponent's team, often allowing other Pokemon to sweep. However, with XY came the rise in Knock Off. Misdreavus is OHKOed by Knock Off on less bulky sets and does not appreciate losing its Eviolite on the bulkier sets. Even with the coverage options that Misdreavus has, it often runs a straight-forward moveset, making it fairly predictable.

    Nasty Plot Attacker
    ########
    name: Nasty Plot Attacker
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt
    move 4: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Taunt
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Nasty Plot is the primary stat-boosting move, skyrocketing Misdreavus's already high Special Attack. Shadow Ball is Misdreavus's primary STAB move, OHKOing an incredible amount of Pokemon at +2 and is blessed with arguably the best offensive coverage in Little Cup. Dazzling Gleam is the primary coverage move and notably OHKOs Scraggy, while still hitting Vullaby for super effective damage and Pawniard neutrally. Hidden Power Fighting is still one of the best options for Misdreavus, notably dealing a large amount of damage to Pawniard without boosting, while also 2HKOing Porygon, a very common Misdreavus check. However, using Hidden Power Fighting can lead to Pokemon such as Vullaby countering Misdreavus. Substitute is also a usable move, allowing Misdreavus to set up on Pokemon with status moves and avoiding mindgames with Pawniard. Substitute can also be used when forcing a switch to have an easier time setting up Nasty Plot. Will-O-Wisp is very notable in the current metagame due to it burning the omnipresent physical attackers of LC and essentially making them useless. Destiny Bond is a good move for Misdreavus to use, as it prevents Carvanha from setting up on Misdreavus and also can pick off Pawniard and disincentive Sucker Punch.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EV spread maximizes Midreavus's Special Attack and Speed while leaving a point invested into HP. If Hidden Power Fighting is used, an EV spread of 240 Special Attack and 240 Speed should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers both Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. If Eviolite is used, the 36 HP EVs can be moved to Defense. Berry Juice is a great item to set up on resisted hits or weaker ones and possibly be rejuvenated to full health. Misdreavus is decently bulky, allowing it to live a large amount of hits. However, Eviolite grants Misdreavus excellent bulk, allowing it to set up on a large amount of Pokemon.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Simply bring Misdreavus in on any Pokemon unable to touch it and then use a Nasty Plot in order to begin smashing the opponent. If using Nasty Plot isn't favorable and the opponent has a Pawniard, Substitute or Will-O-Wisp can be used as an alternative. Substitute allows Misdreavus to either safely switch out of Pawniard or safely OHKO it with Hidden Power Fighting. Early-game, Misdreavus can simply spam Will-O-Wisp in order to cripple the opponent and then set up Nasty Plot later. With Eviolite, Misdreavus does best mid- to late-game cleaning the opponent's team. With Berry Juice, Misdreavus is best used as an early- to mid-game wallbreaker. Substitute is recommended mostly to be used with Berry Juice, as one can use Substitute multiple times to the point where Berry Juice activates.

    Team Options
    ========

    Fighting-types are great partners for this set, as Misdreavus despises bulky Normal-types such as Porygon and Munchlax, which fear Fighting-types. Choice Scarf Pokemon and Carvanha are excellent partners for this set offensively as well, as they can clean up after Misdreavus rips holes through the opponent's team. Carvahna also can KO Pokemon that Misdreavus normally has trouble with, such as Porygon or Munchlax. Fletchling is a great partner, as Misdreavus, despite being a Ghost-type, can not usually safely switch in on Fighting-types due to Knock Off and Fletchling forces all Fighting-types out. Fletchling can also take advantage of Misdreavus' ability to setup on Pokemon such as Archen and Chinchou.

    Choiced Attacker
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    name: Choiced Attacker
    move 1: Trick
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt / Psychic
    move 4: Destiny Bond
    ability: Levitate
    item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
    evs: 36 HP / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Modest / Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Trick is the key move of this set; it cripples any Pokemon of your choice after the Choice item's utility is decreased. This allows Trick to cripple the opponent's best answer to Misdreavus. Shadow Ball is the main STAB move and is a great move to spam for a Choiced attacker in XY. Dazzling Gleam is the optimal complimentary move to Shadow Ball, allowing the Choice Scarf set to revenge kill Scraggy and also giving Misdreavus near perfect coverage. Hidden Power Fighting can be used to deal a large amount of damage to Porygon and Pawniard that wish to switch in and force Misdreavus out. Thunderbolt can be used to defeat Fletchling and Archen, but outside of those, Shadow Ball or Dazzling Gleam are more beneficial. Psychic can be used in order to OHKO Croagunk and have decent coverage with Shadow Ball, as well as hitting Porygon harder, but again, it is inferior outside of niche situations. Destiny Bond is used in the last slot to allow Misdreavus to KO a threat for another teammate.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EV spread gives Misdreavus maximum Special Attack and Speed. If using Hidden Power Fighting, an EV spread of 240 SpA / 240 Spe should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. Modest is best nature for the Choice Scarf set, as not much can outspeed an 18 Speed Choice Scarf Pokemon. However, Timid should be used on the Choice Specs set in order to outrun most of the tier. Choice Scarf has more utility, as it can actually revenge kill sweepers and generally will Trick its Scarf later in the match, if ever. It is a great choice for a revenge killer. Choice Specs grants a decent amount of initial power, but generally is a more crippling item for walls to hold.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    If you are using the Choice Scarf set, analyze your opponent's team to see how useful it will be. Do not Trick early in the game like the Choice Specs set; wait closer until end-game to Trick the Choice Scarf and setup to sweep. If Misdreavus is using Choice Specs, scout your opponent's checks and counters to Misdreavus. Around mid-game, you can Trick the Choice Specs to that check or counter and then set up and attempt a sweep if the conditions are right.

    Team Options
    ========

    This set generally tries to open its own setup opportunities through the use of Trick, but it appreciates support from Fighting-types for Pokemon such as Pawniard and Porygon that can pose problems as well.

    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Shadow Ball
    move 2: Will-O-Wisp
    move 3: Taunt / Pain Split / Substitute
    move 4: Heal Bell / Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting]
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Shadow Ball is the main STAB move, as it has great nuetral coverage and a consistent damage output. Will-O-Wisp is very important on this set, as burn is extremely notable in the current metagame, making this move a necessity ton cripple Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Pawniard, and Fletchling. Taunt has always been one of the best moves when used correctly. Misdreavus can outspeed and Taunt every single Shell Smash user in LC. It can also defeat defensive Pokemon and entry hazard users through this. Pain Split can be used if a more defensive set is required. Eviolite is always the best item if using Pain Split. Substitute can be used instead in order to avoid Sucker Punch and Knock Off from Pokemon such as Pawniard, as well as generally scouting against the opponent. Heal Bell should be used in the 4th slot, as Misdreavus can function well as a cleric due to its ability force many Pokemon out, and can allow for an opportunity to get rid of paralysis or other status effects. Dazzling Gleam, Misdreavus's new move, has better neutral coverage with Ghost and notably OHKOs Scraggy. Hidden Power [Fighting] can be used over Dazzling Gleam in order to pose a mild threat to Porygon and Munchlax, while outright KOing Pawniard.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EVs are standard due to the fact that Misdreavus has solid natural bulk and its 19 Speed is very valuable. If Eviolite is used, the 36 Def EVs can be moved to HP. Berry Juice is the item of choice due to the fact Misdreavus has no reliable recovery, making the HP restoration very valuable. Eviolite can be used if Pain Split is used, as the longevity will really help bulkier teams.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Misdreavus should generally just burn switch-ins early-game and try to cripple the opponent's entire team to simplify the life of another Pokemon. This set functions well as a lead due to both Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, as well as it having a generally good matchup with most Pokemon. On stall based teams, Misdreavus should be kept as healthy as possible to perform clerical duties.

    Team Options
    ========

    This Misdreavus is an excellent partner to many Dark-types, most notably Pawniard, as Will-O-Wisp allows Pawniard to setup much better. Misdreavus can also be a decent glue, helping to patch up weaknesses and forcing switches enough that other sweepers such as Scraggy can set up and sweep the opponent's team.

    Other Options
    ########

    Misdreavus can run a Calm Mind set in order to beat specific stall teams, but this set is generally too slow to be effective. In terms of individual move options, Misdreavus can run Icy Wind to slow down switch-ins, although it is generally too weak. Taunt is an option on all the offensive Misdreavus sets, but Substitute is generally a better option. Thunderbolt can be used as it OHKOes Fletchling, but outside of that, Shadow Ball and Dazzling Gleam usually provide better coverage. In the Choice sets, Nasty Plot is an option so after using Trick, Misdreavus can setup. However, before getting rid of its item, Nasty Plot is essentially a wasted moveslot that could very well have been a coverage move. Memento is an amazing option and can often be used over Destiny Bond. Memento allows Misdreavus to sacrifice itself, allowing a devastating sweeper such as Tirtouga or Zigzagoon to sweep. Life Orb is a decent item on Misdreavus if a player favors power but doesn't want the drawbacks of being locked into one move when using the Choice Specs. However, the power increase is usually not worth the loss in bulk or the ability to gain health in a pinch and be ready to go in late-game.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Bulky Normal-types**: Pokemon such as Porygon, Munchlax, or Lickitung usually counter Misdreavus, although they must watch out for a Nasty Plot boosted Hidden Power Fighting and Munchlax and Lickitung can usually be defeated by Taunt or a Will-O-Wisp.

    **Pawniard**: If Misdreavus does not run Hidden Power Fighting then Pawniard can usually switch in, often abusing a possible Special Defense drop from Shadow Ball. However, It must watch out for Will-O-Wisp. Choice Scarf Pawniard can usually trap it as well.

    **Houndour**: Houndour can switch in on any move Misdreavus has to offer except for Hidden Power Fighting and either Pursuit trap Misdreavus or hit it with Dark Pulse.

    **Vullaby**: If Misdreavus is carrying Hidden Power Fighting, then Vullaby is a great answer to Misdreavus.

    **Scraggy**: Scraggy can always set up on Misdreavus lacking Dazzling Gleam and often doesn't need to worry about the burn from Will-O-Wisp, as Scraggy can use Shed Skin.

    **Priority users**: Misdreavus has to worry about being revenge killed by priority users such as Fletchling or Pawniard.


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    Misdreavus is one of the most versatile Pokemon in LC. With wide coverage options in Dazzling Gleam and Thunderbolt, it can often break through its own counters. Misdreavus is the best Nasty Plot sweeper in the tier, 2HKOing even specially bulky Porygon with a +2 Hidden Power Fighting. After the banning of Murkrow, Misdreavus remains one of the few Pokemon that hits 19 Speed, allowing it to outspeed almost the entire tier. Misdreavus can easily dent the opponent's team, often allowing other Pokemon to sweep. However, with XY came the rise in of Knock Off. Misdreavus is OHKOed by Knock Off on less bulky sets and does not appreciate losing its Eviolite on the bulkier sets. Even with the coverage options that Misdreavus has, it often runs a straight-forward moveset, making it fairly predictable.

    Nasty Plot Attacker
    ########
    name: Nasty Plot Attacker
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt
    move 4: Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Taunt
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Nasty Plot is the primary stat-boosting move, skyrocketing Misdreavus's already high Special Attack. Shadow Ball is Misdreavus's primary STAB move, OHKOing an incredible amount of Pokemon at +2 and is blessed with arguably the best offensive coverage in Little Cup. Dazzling Gleam is the primary coverage move and notably OHKOes Scraggy, while still hitting Vullaby for super effective damage and Pawniard neutrally. Hidden Power Fighting is still one of the best options for Misdreavus, notably dealing a large amount of damage to Pawniard without boosting any boosts, while also 2HKOing Porygon, a very common Misdreavus check. However, using Hidden Power Fighting can lead to Pokemon such as Vullaby countering Misdreavus. Substitute is also a usable move, allowing Misdreavus to set up on Pokemon with status moves and avoiding mindgames with Pawniard. Substitute can also be used when forcing a switch to have an easier time setting up Nasty Plot. Will-O-Wisp is very notable in the current metagame due to it burning the omnipresent physical attackers of LC and essentially making them useless. Destiny Bond is also a good move for Misdreavus to use, as it prevents Carvanha from setting up on Misdreavus and also can pick off Pawniard and disincentive while deterring the use of Sucker Punch.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EV spread maximizes Midreavus's Special Attack and Speed while leaving a point invested into HP. If Hidden Power Fighting is used, an EV spread of 240 Special Attack and 240 Speed should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers both Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. If Eviolite is used, the 36 HP EVs can be moved to Defense. Berry Juice is a great item to allow Misdreavus to set up on resisted hits or weaker ones hits and possibly be rejuvenated to full health. Misdreavus is already decently bulky, allowing it to live a large amount of hits. However, Eviolite grants Misdreavus excellent bulk, allowing it to set up on a large amount of Pokemon.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Simply bring Misdreavus in on any Pokemon that is unable to touch damage or threaten it and then use a Nasty Plot in order to begin smashing the opponent. If using Nasty Plot isn't favorable and the opponent has a Pawniard, Substitute or Will-O-Wisp can be used as an alternative. Substitute allows Misdreavus to either safely switch out of Pawniard or safely OHKO it with Hidden Power Fighting. Early-game, Misdreavus can simply spam Will-O-Wisp in order to cripple the opponent and then set up Nasty Plot later. With Eviolite, Misdreavus does best mid- to late-game,(AC) cleaning up the opponent's team. With Berry Juice, Misdreavus is best used as an early- to mid-game wallbreaker. Substitute is most recommended mostly to be used with Berry Juice, as one can use Substitute multiple times to the point where Berry Juice activates.

    Team Options
    ========

    Fighting-types are great partners for this set, as Misdreavus despises bulky Normal-types such as Porygon and Munchlax,(RC) which fear Fighting-types. Choice Scarf Pokemon and Carvanha are excellent partners for this set offensively as well, as they can clean up after Misdreavus rips holes through the opponent's team. Carvahna also can KO Pokemon that Misdreavus normally has trouble with, such as Porygon or Munchlax. Fletchling is a great partner, as Misdreavus, despite being a Ghost-type, cannot usually safely switch in on Fighting-types due to possibility of Knock Off and Fletchling forces all most Fighting-types out. Fletchling can also take advantage of Misdreavus's ability to set up (space) on Pokemon such as Archen and Chinchou.

    Choiced Attacker
    ########
    name: Choiced Attacker
    move 1: Trick
    move 2: Shadow Ball
    move 3: Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting] / Thunderbolt / Psychic
    move 4: Destiny Bond
    ability: Levitate
    item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
    evs: 36 HP / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Modest / Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Trick is the key move of this set; it cripples any Pokemon of your choice after the Choice item's utility is decreased has worn out. This allows Trick to cripple the opponent's best answer to Misdreavus. Shadow Ball is the main STAB move and is a great move to spam for a Choiced attacker in XY. Dazzling Gleam is the optimal complimentary move to Shadow Ball, allowing the Choice Scarf set to revenge kill Scraggy and also giving Misdreavus near perfect coverage. Hidden Power Fighting can be used to deal a large amount of damage to Porygon and Pawniard that wish to switch in and force Misdreavus out. Thunderbolt can be used to defeat Fletchling and Archen, but outside of those, Shadow Ball or Dazzling Gleam are more beneficial. Psychic can be used in order to OHKO Croagunk and have decent coverage with Shadow Ball, as well as hitting Porygon harder, but again, it is inferior outside of niche situations. Destiny Bond is used in the last slot to allow Misdreavus to KO a threat for another teammate.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EV spread gives Misdreavus maximum Special Attack and Speed. If using Hidden Power Fighting, an EV spread of 240 SpA / 240 Spe should be used, as Hidden Power Fighting lowers Speed and Special Attack IVs by one. Modest is the best nature for the Choice Scarf set, as not much can outspeed an 18 Speed Choice Scarf Pokemon. However, Timid should be used on the Choice Specs set in order to outrun most of the tier. Choice Scarf has more utility, as it can actually revenge kill sweepers and generally will Trick its Scarf later in the match, if ever. It is a great choice for a revenge killer. Choice Specs grants a decent amount of initial power, but generally is a more crippling item for walls to hold.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    If you are using the Choice Scarf set, analyze your opponent's team to see how useful it will be. Do not Trick early in the game like the Choice Specs set; wait closer until end-game to Trick the Choice Scarf and setup to sweep. If Misdreavus is using Choice Specs, scout your opponent's checks and counters to Misdreavus. Around mid-game, you can Trick the Choice Specs to that check or counter and then set up and attempt a sweep if the conditions are right.

    Team Options
    ========

    This set generally tries to open its own setup opportunities through the use of Trick, but it appreciates support from Fighting-types for Pokemon such as Pawniard and Porygon that can pose problems as well.

    Support
    ########
    name: Support
    move 1: Shadow Ball
    move 2: Will-O-Wisp
    move 3: Taunt / Pain Split / Substitute
    move 4: Heal Bell / Dazzling Gleam / Hidden Power [Fighting]
    ability: Levitate
    item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
    evs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Moves
    ========

    Shadow Ball is the main STAB move, as it has great nuetral neutral coverage and a consistent damage output. Will-O-Wisp is very important on this set, as burning a Pokemon is extremely notable useful in the current metagame, making this move a necessity ton cripple Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Pawniard, and Fletchling. Taunt has always been one of the best moves when used correctly. Misdreavus can outspeed and Taunt every single Shell Smash user in LC. It can also defeat defensive Pokemon and entry hazard users through with this. Pain Split can be used if a more defensive set is required. Eviolite is always the best item if using Pain Split. Substitute can be used instead in order to avoid Sucker Punch and Knock Off from Pokemon such as Pawniard, as well as generally scouting against the opponent. Heal Bell should be used in the 4th slot, as Misdreavus can function well as a cleric due to its ability to force many Pokemon out, and can allow for an opportunity to get rid of paralysis or other status effects. Dazzling Gleam, Misdreavus's new move, has better neutral coverage with Ghost and notably OHKOes Scraggy. Hidden Power [Fighting] can be used over Dazzling Gleam in order to pose a mild threat to Porygon and Munchlax, while outright OHKOing Pawniard.

    Set Details
    ========

    The EVs are standard due to the fact that Misdreavus has solid natural bulk and its 19 Speed is very valuable. If Eviolite is used, the 36 Def EVs can be moved to HP. Berry Juice is the item of choice due to the fact Misdreavus has no reliable recovery, making the HP restoration very valuable. Eviolite can be used if Pain Split is used, as the longevity will really help bulkier teams.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Misdreavus should generally just burn switch-ins early-game and try to cripple the opponent's entire team to simplify the life of another Pokemon make your teammates' lives easier. This set functions well as a lead due to both Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, as well as it having a generally good match-up with most Pokemon. On stall based teams, Misdreavus should be kept as healthy as possible to perform clerical duties.

    Team Options
    ========

    This Misdreavus is an excellent partner to many Dark-types, most notably Pawniard, as Will-O-Wisp allows Pawniard to set up (<- space) much better. Misdreavus can also be a decent glue, helping to patch up weaknesses and forcing switches enough so that other sweepers such as Scraggy can set up and sweep the opponent's team.

    Other Options
    ########

    Misdreavus can run a Calm Mind set in order to beat specific stall teams, but this set is generally too slow to be effective. In terms of individual move options, Misdreavus can run Icy Wind to slow down switch-ins, although it is generally too weak. Taunt is an option on all the offensive Misdreavus sets, but Substitute is generally a better option. Thunderbolt can be used as it OHKOes Fletchling, but outside of that, Shadow Ball and Dazzling Gleam usually provide better coverage. In On the Choice sets, Nasty Plot is an option so after using Trick, Misdreavus can set up (<- space). However, before getting rid of its item, Nasty Plot is essentially a wasted moveslot that could very well have been a coverage move. Memento is an amazing option and can often be used over Destiny Bond. Memento allows Misdreavus to sacrifice itself, allowing a devastating sweeper such as Tirtouga or Zigzagoon to sweep. Life Orb is a decent item on Misdreavus if a player favors power but doesn't want the drawbacks of being locked into one move when using the Choice Specs. However, the power increase is usually not worth the loss in bulk or the ability to gain health in a pinch and be ready to go in late-game.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Bulky Normal-types**: Pokemon such as Porygon, Munchlax, or Lickitung usually counter Misdreavus, although they must watch out for a Nasty Plot boosted Hidden Power Fighting. and However,(AC) Munchlax and Lickitung can usually be defeated by Taunt or a Will-O-Wisp.

    **Pawniard**: If Misdreavus does not run Hidden Power Fighting then Pawniard can usually switch in, often abusing a possible Special Defense drop from Shadow Ball. However, it must watch out for Will-O-Wisp. Choice Scarf Pawniard can usually trap it as well.

    **Houndour**: Houndour can switch in on any move Misdreavus has to offer except for Hidden Power Fighting and either Pursuit trap Misdreavus or hit it with Dark Pulse.

    **Vullaby**: If Misdreavus is carrying Hidden Power Fighting, then Vullaby is a great answer to Misdreavus.

    **Scraggy**: Scraggy can always set up on Misdreavus lacking Dazzling Gleam and often doesn't need to worry about the burn from Will-O-Wisp, as Scraggy can use have the Shed Skin ability.

    **Priority users**: Misdreavus has to worry about being revenge killed by priority users such as Fletchling or Pawniard.

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