yawn Latias was called "overcentralizing" in OU yet it wasn't #1 and the usage was less than 30% IRCC. Even then, it was enough to ban her from OU. Now, Kyogre has always been #1 in the uber usage (never dropping 40%) and it has never been accused of being "broken". A single ability only available by 2 pokes (not the greatest pokes either) is being banned because it's too broken? Gimme a break. At least check the usage of Octillery in the last two months and see if it even makes it to top 10 and then you can call it "overcentralized". The fact that a handful of noobs are using it with moderate success is enough for "good" players to become threatened enough to just ban it in the most elitist way ("I'm top 5, I make the rules" Wonder who they benefit with those rules). "OMG I have to include a Celebi with Perish Song or an Arceus with Perish Song otherwise I'm gonna bitch about it" You guys make me laugh. Encore/Taunt, T-Spikes, Haze, Perish Song, even Psych Up (lol). I have lost to Octillery more than once before and the only thing that came out of those "unfair" battles was just me trying to counter it with a single moveslot. Not whining on the forums. If people would tell me that Octillery is the #3 pokemon used in the uber ladder then, yes, we would have to do something. But because this tier is managed the way OU is also managed, it is "being taken care of" by one or two players.