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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. PoJ

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    Usually for me he advances once or twice, but then when I exit the pause menu and take the egg he doesn't advance most of the time.
  2. Kafei-

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    rng id and sid in dppt is the same that heartgold?
  3. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    yes but id sid is generated when you are shrinking instead of exiting the tv as in dppt
  4. Zenotwapal

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    FUCK YES

    Alright, I picked up 4th gen RNGing again and I FINALLY HIT MY DELAY.

    So I called Elm 9 times. Does this mean I'm on Frame 10? I'm RNGing Suicune with no Roamers going, my DSLite is closed right now awaiting to advance my frame to 89 for my Suicune.

    edit: SO I did my frame advancements and caught the thing. Turns out I did one frame advancement too much and got to frame 90. So I spent about an hour catching this piece of crap.

    I need help once I hit my seed. How do I do my advancements?
  5. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    my post is bolded

    edit
    If you advance the frame for suicune, stop on frame 88

    edit-fix
  6. Zenotwapal

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    My frame is 89. I have to get to 89 for Suicune.

    I got on frame 90 apparently. It was Naive. I ran a IV check and it matched. So I was a frame off. So I was on frame 9 all along? I just need to do 88 advances to reach my Suicune?
  7. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    I must be seeing things but yes, advance to frame 88 then encounter suicune.

    Do not know how I seen 107
  8. Zenotwapal

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    Alright, thanks man.
    One more question: by tuning the radio, do you mean by going to the radio station and then switching to dead air?
    And which station should I use to advance my frame?
    Once I hit this Delay again (which will probably be tomorrow by the rate I'm going) I'll check back.
  9. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    This is the way to advance the frame via radio. You have to use the lower right station as long as Buena Password isnt on
  10. Hozu

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    To be clear it's walking out of the Embedded Tower that advances the frame IIRC. I found it easier to simply save just outside it and verify my seed there.
  11. PoJ

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    What does Embedded Tower have to do with RNG abusing Suicune? o_O
  12. Hozu

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    Me not paying attention. Saw the bottom of that quote. <_<
  13. Mackenzie

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    Japanese juggler irwin calls
    (E)
    きみの かつわくを きいて きようも しびれているよ!
    State, numb/sleep, continuing action.

    (K)
    でんれ うれしいなあ
    ちようど ぼくも いま
    かけようとしこた ところおんだ!
    きが あうんだね ぼくたち!
    Legend, happy, medicine, place, approval


    (P)
    けんきかい?
    なにしてるの?
    いま とこにいるの?
    バツシは いくつ あつまつたの?

    Many questions

    edit: after getting a shiny ditto, im pretty sure. :)
  14. Blindy McBlind

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    All right, I've started the 4th gen RNGing, and we can't even get past the calibration phase. We're at Route 28 where there are no NPC's moving. My friend hit A on the DS screen to start Soul Silver at midnight on January 1, 2012. He loaded the game as fast as he could and used Sweet Scent with an Oddish to find a Ponyta. Timid nature, IV's were 12/11/28/2/23/26. So he went to fourth gen tools, find seed by IV's, clicked on HGSS, and filled in the blanks. The seed was 1000020C, method 1 frame was 109, 15 seconds and a delay of 512. My question is why is our frame so high when there were no NPC's moving the frame? Shouldn't the frame have been 2 or 3 if we just Sweet Scented as soon as the game started? Why does it say "method 1 frame"? I thought wild encounters were method K.
  15. Mackenzie

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    could you send a screenshot? sometimes the result changes depending on what max delay you put, i assume you're using pokerng?
  16. Hozu

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    Method K uses Method 1 frames in a different order. If you put that seed into RNG Reporter and search Method K you'll notice that your spread comes up as frame 4 (or frame 2, 3, and 4 w/ Timid sync or frame 3 with wrong sync). The Occidentary column tells you what Method 1 frame it is which is frame 109.
  17. Zenotwapal

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    OK, I hit my delay again (this time in about 30 minutes, I'm starting to get a little better at this)
    So I'm at frame 82 and I have made my Elm call on that frame (to confirm that I'm on frame 82.) When I make Elm calls, does it tell me what frame I'm on and then make the advancement? Because if I make the elm call on frame 88, does that mean that I am really am on frame 89, since the elm call advanced the frame?

    I need this answered ASAP. I'm doing this as I type this.

    Condensed: do the Elm calls tell you what frame your on then advance the frame? Or do they advance the frame then tell you the frame your on?
  18. Kaphotics

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    elm advances the frame, so if you

    1 - P
    2 - K
    3 - K
    4 - K
    5 - P
    6 - P
    7 - P

    if you got PKKKPPPP, you'd be on frame 7 and if you encountered something on the next frame it would be on 8.
  19. Zenotwapal

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    So I've got to get to frame 88 (make the elm call and confirm I'm on frame 88) then encounter Suicune? So basically, I have to make the elm call at frame 88.

    Or am I doing this wrong? Right now I've stopped at frame 87.
  20. Kaphotics

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    if you've gotten the elm calls up to and including the one listed on 87, your next result (if you encountered it immediately) would be a frame 88 suicune.

    part of learning RNG is not having someone else do the deduction for you :P
  21. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    Advance to frame 88 then encounter it.
    Suicune will advance the frame by one so that why you stop on frame 88.

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    ninja'd by Kaph...I guess I can live with it
  22. Zenotwapal

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    Alright, thanks.

    This is my first time to lol. I'm just making sure I'm doing things correct.

    EDIT: Got it.
    I had to Masterball the damn thing, but I got it.

    Thanks for all the help guys. I'll do a Shiny Ho-Oh next.
  23. Zoap

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    ^Unless you abused your ID/SID, you won't have any good shiny spreads.
  24. Blindy McBlind

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    I was wondering why the thing said "method 1". Cool, so at least I understand that part. So the method 1 frames still advance like crazy, but it doesn't matter since we're using method K.
  25. Zenotwapal

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    I'm planning on getting perfect in just the stats I need. Which is maybe 3.

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