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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. dragonboy52

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    Thanks i figured that i could do this Plug in 15 seconds and restart the game mass 'A' till i reach continue then wait till 15 seconds get over and prees a is that ok?
  2. COKTAL

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    @Ortega: About Red Gyrados. The problem is that there are 2 NPCs in the route. One is some girl near the house (she just turns I think) and Red Gyrados itself. It COULD be possible, but it'd be alot of guess and check to get it right if you let them move. If you don't, you'd have to advance your frame very quickly to do it.
  3. ΩDonut

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    The Gyarados is generated by the same method that creates chained shinies. As of yet, there is no program that generates lists of chained spreads, except for my modified RNG Reporter. And even that has been untested.

    Ah, hell... here it is. Somebody please test it and see if ANY of the spreads generated for a seed are at all consistent with the spreads generated for the Gyarados. No, the frame number won't be the same because I don't know what the equivalent of "Method K" for the Gyarados is. Yes, the ID\SID still matters.
  4. Ditto

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    In my experience it is guaranteed to be frame 2.

    It will be the frame listed under actual + 6.
  5. Nexus

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    the first post of this topic will clear that up for you
  6. Kabuto Mushi

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    Ah, ok, I see it now.

    Here's another question then: Let's say I get my SID from some nice person. How long does it normally take to move through each step and get to the point where you get the egg from the daycare man? Again assuming I have all the other prerequisites and such.
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    Is Kyogre's Frame 1?
  8. Frozen_Spirit

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    Quick question if I use an Adamant syncher on this spread Quiet 31/31/30/30/30/31 I could get a pokemon that is Adamant with those stats on a method J? What exactly does with a syncher do?

    Edit :Figured out
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    Wild Eep, I have a question for you regarding hexadecimal in order to find the Munchlax trees. I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere.

    I do not have my secret ID, although I have my Trainer ID and was looking to find two of my Munchlax trees through calculation. However, I don't quite understand your instructions and was looking for some clarification.

    My trainer ID is 35612, so in hexadecimal it is 8b1c.

    Thus, is [SS] = 139, with [YY] = 139 % 21?

    Likewise, is [TT] = 28, with [ZZ] = 28 % 21?

    Thank you for your help.
  10. Frozen_Spirit

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    last question say I'm trying to hit frame 1197.

    So its

    Target Frame - Monster Frame - Number of Wandering Pokémon

    1197-1-0

    so its 1196/2 is 598 journal flips. I have to do 598 journal flips to get my desired frame?
  11. Christian

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    I'm trying to catch a 31/31/31/7/31/31 careful shiny Zubat on my platinum at the ravaged path. I've abused my ID/SID and it's 18064/64178
    Once I get my frame flipping the journal (1009) and hit my delay of 603 a psyduck appears >.>
    Is there something I could do to get 100% Zubat or do i have to try till I get the pokemon I want to catch?

    also all the caught pokemon are generated by method J?
  12. ΩDonut

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    Right-click the frame and click "Calculate Encounter Slots". It will show you a link to a table that tells you what Pokemon shows up on what frame.
  13. Redtype

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    Few questions regarding RNGing starters in HG/SS:

    1. What are the possible ways to advance the frame?
    2. Any info on starting frames?
    3. Does anyone here sucessfuly RNGed a HG/SS starter without resorting to save states?

    Thanks.
  14. Christian

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    thanks =)
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    Let the NPCs move and step inside the lab at the right moment.

    Unless otherwise specified, assume it's 1. For any gift Pokemon. Forgot that Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile are generated at the same time, so they have frames 1, 5, and 9 respectively. Thanks Pehu.

    Have RNG'd a shiny HP Grass 70 Cyndaquil, but needed save states. And it was a bitch even then, because the NPCs don't stop moving immediately after you start walking into the lab. It may be possible for someone to practice the timing on an emulator, then do it on a cart. But it won't be feasible without save states, and the NPCs would need to start in the exact same positions, I think.
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    1. Just NPCs moving.
    2. Chikorita is frame 1, Cyndaquil is frame 5 and Totodile is frame 9.
    3. I'm sorry to disappoint you. I've abused a Totodile with savestates, and as OmegaDonut said, it is hard as hell.

    Then, I wasted 3 days trying to abuse my Cyndaquil from the original game, and I can say that if it's not impossible, at least it's not worthy it.

    You can pretty much breed it a lot easier. The NPCs move at annoying rates, and I was aiming for a real low frame spread (28), but not even once I was able to hit it, in any seed, let alone hit my seed a decent number of times. I was able to hit, on my seed, frames 25 and 31, even by two different ways to advance it (waiting a few seconds outside the lab, or entering and getting out of the lab a few times.

    So, yeah. If you wanna try it, be ready to be pissed off. I gave up, since I have lots of other pokes to use my shiny spread on, and they are all a lot easier to abuse than this frickin bastard.
  18. IamtheOne

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    Im finally starting to get this to work and Im using the Pikatimer and Im getting the right secs but the delay Im Looking for is 640 and i get around 600-610 how do i get higher delay?
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    I've fixed the confusing 'frame' text in the output of PokéRNG.
    Also, I made a new program to assist with abusing Wonder Cards (as RNG Reporter's seed finder is awkward to use). This can be found in the second post of the thread.
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    You are correct!
  21. Davy

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    Has anyone else experienced higher than expected frames when RNGing for starters?
  22. SwampertGirl

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    Seems like I have to beat the E4 the first time. That's fine. I would like to RNG a shiny Suicune and the Kanto legends etc., so I can I can wait on RNGing Raikou for now. I hate killing the dogs. ;-;
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    Another quick question on the Pikatimer the 1st Timer is 80 Secs do i wait till 80secs then press start on the AR or Do I wait 20 secs then press start?
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    Can the Pikatimer be used for D/P/Pt/HG/SS? If so could someone explain to me exactly what it does and provide me with a download link? Thanks.
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    So if I understand this correctly, the red gyarados uses the chained shiny theoretical method, and the nature depends on the game's ID/SID combination?

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