Method J and K are basically "forward the RNG until you hit a Method 1 frame that matches nature X". Actual refers to the Method 1 frame it ends up hitting.
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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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The frame (not the actual frame) is what you want to hit.
I'll keep you posted. We're gathering more complete information on it with some more experiments.
-James
I am unsure on HG/SS, but I ran into the same problem. I recommend learning on DPPt.
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Download the newest RNG Reporter (7.30) and on the Time Finder there should be a box on it that says HG/SS Shiny Egg click it and enter in all your information andlook for a shiny egg PID
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The Guide said:
no its only available as a downloadable application currently
if you have the latest RNG reporter there's an option under methods called "Chained shiny (Theortical)" use that one for the red gyarados
Just note that it doesn't show correct frames, only the possible spreads.
Then we could say that it would be better to just catch it and use for in-game purposes right?
On a side note, is it too complicated to RNG legends on HG/SS for someone that has already RNG'ed some bred pokemon? and ALL legends respawn post-e4 if I kill them right?
I didn't say it would be impossible to RNG for the Red Gyarados, we just haven't worked out the correct frames at this time. It will be possible, and Expert Evan has already RNG'd for one through trial and error.
And yeah, all stationary Pokemon (not just legends) respawn after beating the Elite 4, if you haven't caught them yet.
I'm having serious trouble trying to manipulate the Emerald RNG to get some shiny Pokemon, and I'm hoping someone here can help. I've followed the guide in this GameFAQs topic.
My Trainer ID is 63920, my secret ID is 04664, and according to the Emloop this is one my six shiny frames.
I downloaded method2.csv from Smogon and I see that those IVs are for frame 3153, and I also see that frame 3156 is listed as having these IVs.
I have no idea what to do now, so I'm hoping someone can point out what I'm doing wrong here. This makes no sense to me as I never had this much trouble the first time I did this (over a year ago).
By the way, I'm synchronizing with a Natu/Xatu, Sweet Scenting with an Oddish, and my timer is set at 47.330 seconds.
My Trainer ID is 63920, my secret ID is 04664, and according to the Emloop this is one my six shiny frames.
EmeraldRNG.csv says that the frame is neutral natured, but I just found a Docile Zigzagoon with those exact IVs (7-18-23-24-6-5), and it is not shiny. I had no idea what to do next so I came to Smogon and read a bunch of stuff.Emloop said:
I downloaded method2.csv from Smogon and I see that those IVs are for frame 3153, and I also see that frame 3156 is listed as having these IVs.
I figured that maybe Emloop gave me the right frame with the wrong IVs, so I decided to try for the frame 3156 listed in method2.csv. Well, I just found a Jolly Wingull with those exact IVs (7-25-0-19-3-14), and it is not shiny either.method2.csv said:
I have no idea what to do now, so I'm hoping someone can point out what I'm doing wrong here. This makes no sense to me as I never had this much trouble the first time I did this (over a year ago).
By the way, I'm synchronizing with a Natu/Xatu, Sweet Scenting with an Oddish, and my timer is set at 47.330 seconds.
Has it been confirmed that the frame of Sweet Scent is different depending upon the Pokémon that is following you?
Also, does the frame advance to the "actual" frame after the battle regardless of whether I catch, defeat, or run from the Pokémon?
Also, does the frame advance to the "actual" frame after the battle regardless of whether I catch, defeat, or run from the Pokémon?
Ok, thanks, I'll just kill it and save it for when something is discovered then.
Thanks for being so thorough. According to RNG Reporter, you don't have a shiny spread near that frame at all. Also you have way more than six shiny frames, otherwise the odds of getting a shiny wouldn't be 1 in 8192.
First I've ever heard of this.
And the answer to your second question is the "actual" frame + 6, regardless of all of those.
Ok so I'm trying to RNG Suicune in HG/SS. I'm using Method K. I have no trouble with the seed, it's the frame advancing that's causing problems. The frame is 25. Suicune's frame is 1. I call Elm 24 times. But when I interact with Suicune it's not shiny, and that's what I have it set to. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
I've been saying for awhile that when I tested in the same seed using my Zapdos following me and my Alakazam following me, Sweet Scent always advanced 2 when Zapdos was following me and 1 when Alakazam was. These numbers remain consistent in different seeds that I have tested as well.
First step in finding out what you did wrong is catching the Suicune to find out how far off you were, and finding its IVs\nature to plug into RNG Reporter. That tells you where you screwed up.
Hmmm. Okay, I'll make a note of that, but we can't do any more than that unless someone figures out WHY it does that. Frankly, there are dozens of candidate factors, ranging from the species of the Pokemon to its happiness.
Make a note that being on a Bike seems to always advances by one.
The six shiny frames I mentioned are just the ones that Emloop pointed out in the first 40,000 frames, although it appears that it doesn't actually know what it's talking about.
I've already downloaded the RNG Reporter, but I'm not sure exactly what to do with it. I entered my ID and SID, selected "Method 2", checked the "Shiny Only" box, and hit the generate button. It gave me this list. Did I do that right? Are these my true shiny frames?
RNG Reporter said:
Yup! Good hunting.