Approved and sponsored by tennisace. Introduction: This is the thread where we will be revising Pyroak's movepool. All aspects of Pyroak's movepool, including TM moves, Move Tutor moves, Level-Up moves, and Egg Moves will be revised according to the limits listed below and the requirements listed in this process guide article. All process details for the revisions can be found in this thread. Base Stat Rating & Movepool Limits: This is where the BSR Overall Rating and Movepool Limit are decided. In accordance with this process guide article, all CAPs must have a Overall BSR limit that is balanced by the maximum of that CAP's Very Good Move (VGM) limit. The calculator for the Overall BSR of a Pokemon can be found here. Original Stats: 120 HP / 70 Atk / 105 Def / 95 SpA / 90 SpD / 60 Spe Pyroak's Overall BSR: - 317 Pyroak's Resulting Movepool Size Limit: - 75 Pyroak's Resulting VGM Limit: - 35 Current Movepool:Reference: Originoak Move Count: - 67 VGM Count: - 34 Level-Up Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Level-Up Moves (open) Level-Up Moves (close) Moves: 16 VGM: 6 - Wood Hammer (Heart Scale)* - Flare Blitz (Heart Scale)* - Leer - Pound - Growl 5. Bullet Seed 9. Focus Energy 13. Ember 17. Growth 21. Leech Seed* 28. Synthesis 35. Energy Ball* 46. Lava Plume* 57. Zap Cannon 63. Flash Cannon* 72. Hyper Beam* TM/HM Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) TM/HM Moves (open) TM/HM Moves (close) Moves: 45 VGM: 25 TM 05-Roar* TM 06-Toxic* TM 09-Bullet Seed TM 10-Hidden Power* TM 11-Sunny Day TM 15-Hyper Beam* TM 16-Light Screen* TM 17-Protect* TM 19-Giga Drain* TM 21-Frustration TM 22-SolarBeam TM 23-Iron Tail TM 27-Return* TM 28-Dig TM 30-Shadow Ball* TM 31-Brick Break* TM 32-Double Team TM 33-Reflect* TM 34-Shock Wave TM 35-Flamethrower* TM 36-Sludge Bomb* TM 38-Fire Blast* TM 39-Rock Tomb TM 40-Aerial Ace* TM 42-Façade* TM 43-Secret Power TM 44-Rest* TM 45-Attract TM 50-Overheat* TM 53-Energy Ball* TM 56-Fling TM 58-Endure TM 61-Will-o-Wisp* TM 66-Payback* TM 68-Giga Impact TM 76-Stealth Rock* TM 82-Sleep Talk* TM 83-Natural Gift TM 86-Grass Knot* TM 87-Swagger TM 90-Substitute* TM 91-Flash Cannon* HM 04-Strength HM 06-Rock Smash HM 08-Rock Climb Egg Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Egg Moves (open) Egg Moves (close) Moves: 6 VGM: 3 Egg Groups: Plant/Monster DragonBreath Howl Mud Bomb Seed Bomb* Aromatherapy* Leaf Storm* Move Tutor Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Move Tutor Moves (open) Move Tutor Moves (close) - None New Movepool:Move Count: - 75 VGM Count: -35 Level-Up Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Level-Up Moves (open) Level-Up Moves (close) Moves: 16 VGM: 7 - Wood Hammer* - Flare Blitz* - Bullet Seed - Sweet Scent 5. Growth 9. Ember 13. Leech Seed* 17. Flame Wheel 21. Giga Drain* 28. Fire Spin 36. Petal Dance 42. Iron Defense* 42. Amnesia 48. Synthesis* 54. Lava Plume* 60. Zap Cannon TM/HM Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) TM/HM Moves (open) TM/HM Moves (close) Moves: 40 (2 repeats) VGM: 22 (1 repeat) TM 05-Roar* TM 06-Toxic* TM 09-Bullet Seed TM 10-Hidden Power* TM 11-Sunny Day TM 15-Hyper Beam* TM 16-Light Screen* TM 17-Protect* TM 19-Giga Drain* TM-20 Safeguard TM 21-Frustration TM 22-SolarBeam TM 23-Iron Tail TM-26 Earthquake* TM 27-Return* TM 32-Double Team TM 35-Flamethrower* TM 38-Fire Blast* TM 39-Rock Tomb TM 42-Façade* TM 43-Secret Power TM 44-Rest* TM 45-Attract TM 50-Overheat* TM 53-Energy Ball* TM 58-Endure TM 61-Will-o-Wisp* TM 68-Giga Impact TM70-Flash TM75-Swords Dance* TM 76-Stealth Rock* TM-80-Rock Slide* TM 82-Sleep Talk* TM 83-Natural Gift TM 86-Grass Knot* TM 87-Swagger TM 90-Substitute* HM 04-Strength HM 06-Rock Smash HM 08-Rock Climb Egg Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Egg Moves (open) Egg Moves (close) Egg Groups: Plant/Monster Moves: 8 VGM: 2 Aromatherapy* Counter* Dragonbreath Grasswhistle Psybeam Revenge Sand Tomb Water Sport Legal Egg Combinations: Aromatherapy + Counter + Psybeam (ADV Parasect) Aromatherapy + Counter + GrassWhistle (ADV Meganium) Aromatherapy + GrassWhistle + Water Sport (Roserade) Counter + Dragonbreath (ADV Sceptile) Counter + Grasswhistle + Revenge (ADV Cacturne) Counter + Water Sport (Ludicolo) Dragonbreath + Sand Tomb (Garchomp through Altaria) (Note: Grasswhistle is a 4th Gen Only Breed on Sceptile, making Counter + GrassWhistle + Leaf Storm illegal. Any 2 of the 3 is a legal combination.) Move Tutor Moves (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Move Tutor Moves (open) Move Tutor Moves (close) Moves: 16 (4 repeats) VGM: 7 (4 repeats) Counter Double-Edge Mimic Snore Synthesis* Ancientpower Earth Power* Heat Wave* Iron Defense* Mud-Slap Seed Bomb* Worry Seed Low Kick* Block* Headbutt Justification: Pyroak's original design was a sun-sweeper, but after sun-testing auto-sun (permanent or temporary) was deemed too broken. Pyroak's general direction shifted to a defensive Pokemon with a different defensive type, one focused on neutralities rather than resistances. Unfortunately at the time everyone was afraid another Revenankh would be made and subsequently the movepool lacks certain characteristics you would usually see in this type combination. Too much conservatism led to a shell of a movepool that was popular only among a few battlers.. This revision is primarily focused on keeping Pyroak both a) true to type and b) true to the defensive style it was meant to employ. Pyroak's physical movepool is not as great as it once was (or at least is a bit moved around), but it does have a lot of powerful special attacks, reflecting on its return to a higher SpA stat. Notable VGM additions based on type-move and move-move requirements: Swords Dance (Grass type), Earthquake(Lave Plume), Rock Slide(Lave Plume) Notable other VGM additions: Counter, Low Kick Notable VGM retractions: Reflect, Shadow Ball, Brick Break, Sludge Bomb, Signal Beam, Aerial Ace, Payback, Flash Cannon Notable non-VGM additions: Amnesia, Block, Fire Spin, Grasswhistle, Pin Missile, Psybeam, Sand Tomb, Sweet Scent, Water Sport, Zap Cannon Summary: Pyroak's playtesting began May 20th, 2008. By all accounts this was a young metagame, in play before Platinum and HGSS came around. This was before even the Garchomp suspect test. Garchomp was OU, Latias was Uber. These changes are designed with this in mind, to build a Pyroak with a sort of nuanced way of addressing both physical and special threats. Pyroak now has partial and complete trapping and Iron Defense/Amnesia to make use of Battle Armor, which prevents critical hits. Reflect has been removed and basically replaced by Counter. With Garchomp around there are immensely powerful physical attacks being flung around, such that Pyroak's defense is better served as a buffer to Counter Outrages rather than setting up Reflect. Light Screen has been retained to allow passing of a SpD boost, and is much, much more common among Grass-types than Reflect. I tried to preserve Pyroak's Octillery-esque "cannon" theme with a lot of the non-VGM moves. I ran out of room for Flash Cannon, as I couldn't decide to drop Brick Break or Low Kick. Both are useful generally defensive moves, one removing an opponent's Screens commonly used in Hyper Offense, and the other being a powerful coverage move against several powerful bulky offensive Pokemon like Tyranitar, Heatran, and Snorlax. Brick Break eventually got the boot after a discussion of technical VGM, which Wood Hammer would fall under. While I was removing Brick Break I added in Grasswhistle and Revenge, two non-VGM moves that could be useful. Pyroak will actually be quite good in Gravity now with "Double-Powder" Zap Cannon + GrassWhistle. Revenge is the most viable non-VGM Fighting move available, since Pyroak has the bulk to actually take a hit and make it worthwhile. Update 07/15/2010: Based on the principle of equivalent VGMs (Acid Armor/Moonlight equivalent) Pyroak has 37 VGM. I will be editing in changes shortly. Stone Edge, Blaze Kick(Fire Punch equivalent), and Double-Edge (better Return on RH Oak) have been removed. Stone Edge has been replaced by Safeguard, Blaze Kick by Petal Dance. I don't consider Revenge to be an Avalanche equivalent; Ice has no real better physical move whereas Revenge is clearly outclassed by multiple fighting moves.