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Mr. Mime [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Thatsjustpeachy, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Thatsjustpeachy

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    [Overview]

    <p>Mr. Mime has two main roles in NU. The first is its role as a powerful and fast sweeper thanks to Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, and great offensive stats. It has a decent base 90 Speed coupled with base 100 Special Attack and base 120 Special Defense to give it merit as a special sweeper. However, this role is highly contested and arguably done better by Jynx, which as access to the same coverage and stat boosting moves, but with higher offensive stats. Mr. Mime shouldn't be overlooked though. With access to Baton Pass and Soundproof, Mr. Mime isn't as vulnerable to Pursuit and phazing as Jynx is. This leads to Mr. Mime's second role in NU: that of a dominant Baton Pass user. Soundproof makes it harder for Mr. Mime to be phazed away thanks to an immunity to Roar, and Mr. Mime has access to powerful stat boosting moves. Mr. Mime's Speed allows it to successfully use Taunt or Encore to stop opponents from setting up against it or removing its boosts via Haze or similar methods. Because it is a capable sweeper and a dominant Baton Pass user, one shouldn't be so quick to overlook Mr. Mime.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
    move 3: Substitute / Encore / Taunt / Barrier
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Soundproof
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>When anyone sees a Mr. Mime in OU, it is most likely part of an obvious Baton Pass chain. This is no surprise, as with Soundproof and a wide variety of stat boosting moves, Mr. Mime is also a top candidate for a Baton Pass chain in NU, where there are even fewer Pokemon that can prevent it from setting up. Nasty Plot and Calm Mind are the primary stat boosts to pass. Nasty Plot is primarily used for a quick +2 in Special Attack, which is then Baton Passed to a fast sweeper for a potential sweep. This is more likely to be seen outside of an all-out Baton Passing team. Calm Mind boosts Special Attack less than Nasty Plot, but the additional +1 to Special Defense is very useful. Calm Mind is the move of choice for Mr. Mime if it is part of an all-out Baton Pass chain, as the extra Special Defense allows Mr. Mime to get more Calm Minds in against special attackers. The third moveslot has a myriad of options. Substitute and Taunt are both great ways to avoid status. Taunt allows Mr. Mime to avoid phazing from Whirlwind and Haze while preventing the opponent from setting up as well. Substitute is nice to potentially get the Baton Pass receiver in unscathed. With Encore, one hopes that the opponent sets up hazards or boosts so Mr. Mime can get free stat boosts while the opponent is forced to switch. However, this option is more situational. Barrier offers another stat boost to be passed on, and it also patches up Mr. Mime's pathetic Defense, which might allow it to get in more stat boosts. Finally, Mr. Mime gets a STAB attack in the form of Psychic so it doesn't become Taunt bait and will be able to abuse the stat boosts itself.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are designed to tank hits a little better and make Substitutes a little bulkier while maintaining maximum Speed. The only attacking move Mr. Mime gets is Psychic and, although there are no Special Attack EVs, it can still do major damage after a Nasty Plot boost. Psyshock can also be used to deal with special walls better, but Psychic is generally better for a higher damage output considering the boosts Mr. Mime will accumulate. This set is designed to Baton Pass anyway, so wallbreaking should be left to designated sweepers. Charge Beam can be used for a possible Special Attack boost and with Technician it has decent power behind it; however, Mr. Mime loses Soundproof, which makes it more susceptible to phazing. Good partners for Mr. Mime include Pokemon that can take advantage of its boosts, such as Magmortar, Electabuzz, Jynx, Kadabra, and Rotom-S.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Sweeper
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
    move 3: Focus Blast / Signal Beam
    move 4: Baton Pass / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Filter
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Jynx appears to outclass Mr. Mime as a sweeper, Mr. Mime is still a very capable sweeper thanks to certain advantages. Mr. Mime can avoid Pursuit and Sucker Punch with Baton Pass and allow another sweeper to take its place; this secondary Baton Pass role is probably its biggest advantage over Jynx. If the situation isn't very favorable, just bring in another sweeper. A mono-Psychic typing also gives Mr. Mime fewer weaknesses than Jynx. Access to Nasty Plot and great type coverage means that Mr. Mime will be able to deal with many threats thanks to its insane Special Attack stat. Psychic is the main STAB move of choice, but Psyshock is an option worth noting to hit Altaria and Articuno harder. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that would otherwise wall Mr. Mime. Signal Beam, on the other hand, still allows for super effective coverage on Absol but removes Mr. Mime's ability to deal with Steel-types. Substitute is another option over Baton Pass because it also allows Mr. Mime to avoid Sucker Punch and status, but it will still be vulnerable to Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hazards would go well with this set to net more OHKOs and break through Sturdy. Probopass is one of Mr. Mime's best partners as it offers Stealth Rock and paralysis support and resists any super effective hits targeted at Mr. Mime. Absol is a good offensive partner to take out opposing Psychic-types if you choose not to run Signal Beam, as Mr. Mime will otherwise be completely walled by them. Technician Icy Wind and Thunderbolt both are inferior options because pseudo-BoltBeam coverage will only hit a few Pokemon better than the Psychic- and Fighting-type coverage. Mr. Mime could also run Technician Hidden Power Fighting as the accuracy of Focus Blast might be unappealing, but the power of Focus Blast allows Mr. Mime to score many OHKOs after a Nasty Plot boost. Mr. Mime can also run an all-out attacking set with Nasty Plot, Focus Blast, and Signal Beam for maximum coverage, but this will only be effective once all opposing Pokemon with Pursuit and Sucker Punch are eliminated. Furthermore, Baton Pass is the one major advantage Mr. Mime holds over Jynx, so an all-out attacking set would arguably be performed better by Jynx. Filter could allow Mr. Mime to take a Pursuit when it is not switching out and take a super effective special attack. Soundproof can also be used to stop phazers from being able to Roar it out.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Mr. Mime has a wide variety of options, but looking closer at its sets reveals that they are outclassed by other Pokemon or outclassed in the primary sets. Its access to Technician allows it to run a set consisting of Charge Beam, Icy Wind, and an array of Hidden Powers with a Base Power of 60, along with a STAB attack. This set is unfortunately inferior to the Nasty Plot set, which offers better coverage and more power even with the Technician boost factored in. Mr. Mime can also run a dual screens set with Healing Wish, but this is outclassed by Mesprit, which has more bulk and can set up Stealth Rock. A Trick set with a Choice item allows Mr. Mime to cripple an opposing wall, but this limits Mr. Mime when it comes to attacking as it is easy to become Pursuit bait. It doesn't have enough power to abuse a Choice Scarf effectively, and Nasty Plot gives Mr. Mime more versatility than a Choice Specs set. Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Trick Room are all good support moves that Mr. Mime can use. However, the cost of using them is usually too great as they will hinder Mr. Mime's type coverage or force it to drop its most coveted quality, Baton Passing, from its sets. Most of the time Mr. Mime will be too frail to really abuse any of those support moves anyway.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Mr. Mime has the ability to Baton Pass out of most unfavorable situations. Fortunately, Mr. Mime is easy to check and easy to force out. Psychic-types will wall any sweeper sets that lack Signal Beam. Therefore, Exeggutor and Mesprit can both cripple any Mr. Mime without Signal Beam with status. If Mr. Mime chooses not to run Baton Pass or Substitute, Absol and Skuntank can both use Pursuit and Sucker Punch on Mr. Mime and fear little damage in return thanks to an immunity to Psychic-type moves. Altaria, Mantine, and Articuno can take on Mr. Mime without Psyshock and attempt to cripple it with status or phaze out variants without Soundproof. However, most checks should be careful to not let Mr. Mime get too many Nasty Plots in. Murkrow can stop the Baton Pass set with Prankster Taunt and can use Thunder Wave on the sweeper set. Steel-types in general will wall any sweeper set without a Fighting-type move. Quagsire can negate any stat boosting attempts on the sweeper, but must be careful of Mr. Mime Baton Passing its boosts to a Pokemon that can beat Quagsire.</p>
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    Nitpick, but "Mime" is spelled wrong in title.

    There just seems to be too many slashes in the BP set. I would remove Barrier, since really you're ideally going to only be using one move slot for a stat boost move. Perhaps simply mentioning Barrier as an option in the AC is good enough?
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    maybe mention/slash Signal Beam next to Focus Miss on the Special Sweeper set? Dropping coverage vs Steels+extra power for Psychic types+better accuracy seems like a decent alternative to me. also you may wanna emphasize why u wanna use him over Jynx, who basically runs the same NP set and is notably more popular
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    Fixed that spelling error and i feel like all of the moves are pretty equal. An all out BP team might utilize Barrier just as much as the other options

    I'll make a mention of Signal Beam right now. As for Mr. Mime's advantages over Jynx, I'll dive into that more as I write it up.
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    Why isn't Shadow Ball mentioned anywhere?
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    There are a lot of other Pokemon in the tier that can pass off Defense boosts (Mawile, Gorebyss, and Huntail). If I were to use a BP team in NU, then Mr. Mime would solely be CM support. If I were to use it as just a passer, then I would want to pass off as much offensive presence as possible (NP). Barrier just seems like an inferior pass option when there are other Pokes that can do that job.
    Also, with Encore and Taunt, there's almost no way I would ever use Barrier over those. Just an opinion. Not saying it shouldn't be mentioned as an option, but it just doesn't feel like it belongs in the main set.
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    Yeah, I second this. Mr. Mime is excellent at taking out opposing Psychic types due to its excellent Special Defense, good Speed, access to Nasty Plot and access to Filter to reduce the damage of its opponent's Shadow Balls. Coverage wise Psychic + Ghost only really misses out on Dark types and Probopass in this tier; the latter is set up bait whilst you can probs Baton Pass out of the most common Dark types as they use Sucker Punch.
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    Technician is released, so you don't need a DW section.
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    actually, Mr.Mime can use Technician, with moves such as Confusion and Bolt-Beam coverage in Icy Wind/Shock Wave as well as Magical Leaf

    prob not good enough for a set, but interesting nevertheless
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    Shock Wave isn't legal with Technician. Charge Beam is, though.
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    Signal Beam takes care of Psychic types. Its only weaker by 5 in terms of Base Power and you can still hit dark types for super effective damage. I guess it might be AC stuff but i dont know when I would ever use shadow ball over signal beam unless i really hated ghost pokemon.
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    agreeing with psychic/bug; with absol around you need to hit it switching in.

    since mime is frail anyway, you may want to slash Filter on sweeper with tech and swap signal beam for HP bug.
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    Two things:
    1) deslash Psyshock on the NP set and add it to AC, the only thing it really hits is Cryogonal and the really uncommon Muk.
    2) don't forget teammates when you write this up!
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    Also, remove the DW section. It's released.
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    You can mention the merits of Technician in OO, then.
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    Ready for GP checks
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    [Overview]

    <p>Mr. Mime has two main roles in NU. The first, is its role of being (as) a powerful and fast sweeper since Mr. Mime has (thanks to) access to Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, and great offensive stats. It has a decent base 90 Speed coupled with a base 100 Special Attack and base 120 Special Defense (to give it merit as a special sweeper). However, this role is highly contested and arguably done better by Jynx because Jynx has (due to) access to the same coverage and stat boosting moves moves (comma) along (but) with higher offensive stats. Mr. Mime shouldn't be overlooked though. With access to Baton Pass and Soundproof, Mr. Mime isn't as vu(l)nerable to Pursuit and phazing as Jynx is. Speaking of Baton Pass and Soundproof, t(T)his leads to Mr. Mime's second role in RU, (colon) (that of) a dominant Baton Passer. Soundproof makes it harder for Mr. Mime to be phazed away (thanks to an immunity to Roar) and it has access to powerful stat boosting moves. If the opponent wanted to set up on Mr. Mime or phaze with some other method than Roar and Perish Song, Mr. Mime can always use Taunt or Encore which makes it really difficult to prevent it from setting up. (Mr. Mime's Speed allows it to successfully use Taunt or Encore to stop opponent's from setting up against it or phazing it out via Perish Song or similar methods.) Being (Because it is) a capable sweeper and a dominant Baton Passer, don't (one shouldn't) be so quick to overlook Mr. Mime.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
    move 3: Substitute / Encore / Taunt / Barrier
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Soundproof
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

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    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>When anyone sees a Mr. Mime in OU, it is most likely part of an obvious Baton Pass chain. This is no surprise, (as) with Soundproof and a wide variety of stat boosting moves, Mr. Mime is also a top candidate in NU for Baton Pass (for a Baton Pass chain in NU,) where (there are) even less things (Pokemon that) can prevent it from setting up. Nasty Plot and Calm Mind are the primary stat boosts to pass on. Nasty Plot is primarily used for a quick +2 in Special Attack and then Baton Passing to a fast sweeper for a potential sweep. This is more likely to be seen outside of an all(hyphen)out Baton Passing team. Calm Mind only gives you +1 in Special Attack but it also gives you +1 in Special Defense. (Calm Mind boosts Special Attack less than Nasty Plot, but the additional +1 to Special Defense is very useful.) Calm Mind is the move of choice for Mr. Mime if it is part of an all(hyphen)out Baton Pass chain since (as) the extra Special Defense allows the user to get more Calm Minds in against special attackers. The third move(slot) has a variety (myriad) of options. Substitute and Taunt are (both) great ways to avoid status. Taunt allows Mr. Mime to avoid phazing from Whirlwind and Haze while preventing the opponent from setting up as well. Substitute is nice to potentially get in the Baton Pass receiver (in) unscathed. With Encore your hoping (comma) (one hopes) that the opponent sets up hazards or stat boosts so you (Mr. Mime) can get free stat boosts while they (opponent is) are forced switch. However, this option is more situational. Barrier just offers another stat boost to be passed on and it also patches up Mr. Mime's pathetic Defense which might allow it to get in more stat boosts. And f(F)inally, Mr. Mime gets a STAB attack in the form of Psychic so it doesn't become Taunt bait and it will be able to abuse the stat boosts itself.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are designed to tank hits a little better and make Substitutes a little bulkier while maintaining its maximum Speed. The only attacking move Mr. Mime gets is Psychic in order to deal some damage and (comma) although there are no Special Attack EVs, it can still do major damage behind (after) a Nasty Plot boost. Psyshock can also be used to deal with special walls better but Psychic is generally better for more consistent damage (a higher damage output considering the boosts Mr. Mime will accumulate). The role of this set is Baton Passing anyways so leave the wall breaking to the designated sweepers. (This set is designed to Baton Pass anyway, so wallbreaking should be left to designated sweepers.) Charge Beam can be used for a possible Special Attack boost and with Technician, it has decent power behind it. However, you (Mr. Mime) lose(s) Soundproof (comma) which makes you (it) more susceptible to phazing. Good partners for Mr. Mime would be anyone (those) that can take advantage of the boosts (comma) such as Magmortar, Electabuzz, Jynx, Kadabra, and Rotom-S.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Sweeper
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
    move 3: Focus Blast / Signal Beam
    move 4: Baton Pass / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Filter
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Even with Jynx contesting (appearing to outclass) Mr. Mime's sweeper position, Mr. Mime is still a very capable sweeper with its (thanks to certain) advantages. Firstly, Mr. Mime can avoid Pursuit and Sucker Punches with Baton Pass and allow another sweeper to take its place. Having this secondary Baton Pass role is probably its biggest advantage over Jynx. If the situation isn't very favorable (comma) just bring in another sweeper. Mr. Mime also has better typing in that it has less weaknesses than Jynx. (A mono-Psychic typing also gives Mr. Mime fewer weaknesses than Jynx.) Access to Nasty Plot means its Special Attack will reach insane levels and with Mr. Mime's great type coverage therefore not many Pokemons can stand in its way. (Access to Nasty Plot and great type coverage means that Mr. Mime will be able to deal with many threats thanks to an insane Special Attack stat.) Psychic is (the) main STAB move of choice but Psyshock is an option worth noting to hit stuff like Altaria and Articuno harder. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that would otherwise wall Mr. Mime. Signal Beam (comma) on the other hand (comma) still allows you to hit (for super effective coverage on) Absol but trades (removes) Mr. Mime's ability to deal with Steel-types to Psychic-types. Substitu(t)e is another option over Baton Pass since it also allows Mr. Mime to avoid Sucker Punches and status (comma) but you (it) will still be vu(l)nerable to Pursuit.</p>

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    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hazards would go well with this team so Mr. Mime can score (to net) more OHKOs and break through Sturdy. Probopass is one of Mr. Mime's best partners as Probopass (it) offers Stealth Rock support, paralysis support, and resists any super-effective hits targeted at Mr. Mime. Absol is a good offensive partner to take out opposing Psychic-types if you choose not to run Signal Beam since Mr. Mime will be otherwise (be) completely walled by them. Technician Icy Wind and Thunderbolt both are inferior options since it (pseudo-BoltBeam coverage) will only hit a few Pokemons better than the Psychic and Fighting coverage. Mr. Mime could also run Technician Hidden Power Fighting since (as) the accuracy of Focus Blast might be unappealing (comma) but the power of Focus Blast allows Mr. Mime to score many OHKOs after a Nasty Plot boost. Mr. Mime can also run an all(hyphen)out attacking set with Nasty Plot, Focus Blast, and Signal Beam for maximum coverage but this will only be effective once all opposing Pursuiters and Sucker Punchers (Pokemon with Pursuit and Sucker Punch) are eliminated. However, Baton Pass is the one major advantage Mr. Mime holds over Jynx (comma) so an all(hyphen)out attacking set would arguably be performed better by Jynx. Filter is used to (could) allow Mr. Mime to take a Pursuit when it is not switching out and take a super-effective special attack. Soundproof can also be used though to stop phazers from being able to Roar it out.</p>

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    [Other Options]

    <p>Mr. Mime has a wide variety of options (comma) but looking closer at its sets, (reveals that) they are outclassed by other Pokemons or outclassed in the primary sets. Its access to Technician allows it to run a Technician set consisting of Charge Beam, Icy Wind, and an array of Hidden Powers with a b(B)ase p(P)ower of 60 (comma) along with a STAB attack. This set is unfortunately inferior to the Nasty Plot set (comma) which offers better coverage and more base power even with the Technician boost factored in. Mr. Mime can also run a D(d)ual S(s)creens set with Healing Wish but this is outclassed by Mesprit who has more bulk and can set up Stealth Rocks. A Choice item Trick set (with a Choice item) allows Mr. Mime to cripple an opposing wall (comma) but this limits Mr. Mime when it comes to attacking since it is easy to become Pursuit bait. It doesn't have enough power to abuse a Choice Scarf effective(ly) and Nasty Plot gives Mr. Mime more versatility than a Choice Specs set. Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Trick Room are all good support moves that Mr. Mime can use. The cost of using them is usually too great since (as) it will hinder Mr. Mime's type coverage or force Mr. Mime to drop its most coveted quality, Baton Passing, from its sets. Most of the times Mr. Mime will be too frail to really abuse any of those support moves (anyway).</p>

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    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Mr. Mime has the ability to Baton Pass out of most unfavorable situations. Fortunately (comma) Mr. Mime is easy to check and easy to force out. Psychic types will wall any sweeper sets that lack Signal Beam. Therefore Exeggutor and Mesprit can both cripple any Mr. Mime without Signal Beam with status. If Mr. Mime chooses not to run Baton Pass or Substitute, Absol and Skuntank can both use Pursuit and Sucker Punch on Mr. Mime and have immunity to Psychic-type moves (fear little damage in return thanks to an immunity to Psychic-type moves). Altaria, Mantine, and Articuno can take on Mr. Mimes without Psyshock and attempt to cripple Mr. Mime (it) with status or attempt to phaze out Mr. Mimes (variants) without Soundproof. However, most checks should be careful by not letting (to not let) Mr. Mime get too many Nasty Plots in. Murkrow can stop the Baton Pass set with Prankster Taunt and can use Thunder Wave on the sweeper set. Steel-types in general will wall any sweeper set without a Fighting-type move. Quagsires can negate any stat boosting attempts on the sweeper (comma) but must be careful of Mr. Mime Baton Passing its boosts to a Pokemon that can beat Quagsire.</p>​


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    [Overview]

    <p>Mr. Mime has two main roles in NU. The first is its role as a powerful and fast sweeper thanks to Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, and great offensive stats. It has a decent base 90 Speed coupled with a base 100 Special Attack and base 120 Special Defense to give it merit as a special sweeper. However, this role is highly contested and arguably done better by Jynx due to access to the same coverage and stat boosting moves, but with higher offensive stats. Mr. Mime shouldn't be overlooked though. With access to Baton Pass and Soundproof, Mr. Mime isn't as vulnerable to Pursuit and phazing as Jynx is. This leads to Mr. Mime's second role in RU: that of a dominant Baton Passer. Soundproof makes it harder for Mr. Mime to be phazed away thanks to an immunity to Roar and it has access to powerful stat boosting moves. Mr. Mime's Speed allows it to successfully use Taunt or Encore to stop opponent's from setting up against it or phazing it out via Perish Song or similar methods. Because it is a capable sweeper and a dominant Baton Passer, one shouldn't be so quick to overlook Mr. Mime.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
    move 3: Substitute / Encore / Taunt / Barrier
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Soundproof
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>When anyone sees a Mr. Mime in OU, it is most likely part of an obvious Baton Pass chain. This is no surprise, as with Soundproof and a wide variety of stat boosting moves, Mr. Mime is also a top candidate for a Baton Pass chain in NU, where there are even less Pokemon that can prevent it from setting up. Nasty Plot and Calm Mind are the primary stat boosts to pass on. Nasty Plot is primarily used for a quick +2 in Special Attack and then Baton Passing to a fast sweeper for a potential sweep. This is more likely to be seen outside of an all(hyphen)out Baton Passing team. Calm Mind boosts Special Attack less than Nasty Plot, but the additional +1 to Special Defense is very useful. Calm Mind is the move of choice for Mr. Mime if it is part of an all(hyphen)out Baton Pass chain as the extra Special Defense allows the user to get more Calm Minds in against special attackers. The third moveslot has a myriad of options. Substitute and Taunt are both great ways to avoid status. Taunt allows Mr. Mime to avoid phazing from Whirlwind and Haze while preventing the opponent from setting up as well. Substitute is nice to potentially get the Baton Pass receiver in unscathed. With Encore, one hopes that the opponent sets up hazards or boosts so Mr. Mime can get free stat boosts while the opponent is forced switch. However, this option is more situational. Barrier just offers another stat boost to be passed on and it also patches up Mr. Mime's pathetic Defense which might allow it to get in more stat boosts. Finally, Mr. Mime gets a STAB attack in the form of Psychic so it doesn't become Taunt bait and will be able to abuse the stat boosts itself.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are designed to tank hits a little better and make Substitutes a little bulkier while maintaining maximum Speed. The only attacking move Mr. Mime gets is Psychic in order to deal some damage and, although there are no Special Attack EVs, it can still do major damage after a Nasty Plot boost. Psyshock can also be used to deal with special walls better but Psychic is generally better for a higher damage output considering the boosts Mr. Mime will accumulate. This set is designed to Baton Pass anyway, so wallbreaking should be left to designated sweepers. Charge Beam can be used for a possible Special Attack boost and with Technician it has decent power behind it. However, Mr. Mime loses Soundproof, which makes it more susceptible to phazing. Good partners for Mr. Mime would be those that can take advantage of the boosts, such as Magmortar, Electabuzz, Jynx, Kadabra, and Rotom-S.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Sweeper
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
    move 3: Focus Blast / Signal Beam
    move 4: Baton Pass / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Filter
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Even with Jynx appearing to outclass Mr. Mime's sweeper position, Mr. Mime is still a very capable sweeper thanks to certain advantages. Mr. Mime can avoid Pursuit and Sucker Punch with Baton Pass and allow another sweeper to take its place. Having this secondary Baton Pass role is probably its biggest advantage over Jynx. If the situation isn't very favorable, just bring in another sweeper. A mono-Psychic typing also gives Mr. Mime fewer weaknesses than Jynx. Access to Nasty Plot and great type coverage means that Mr. Mime will be able to deal with many threats thanks to an insane Special Attack stat. Psychic is the main STAB move of choice but Psyshock is an option worth noting to hit Altaria and Articuno harder. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that would otherwise wall Mr. Mime. Signal Beam, on the other hand, still allows for super effective coverage on Absol but removes Mr. Mime's ability to deal with Steel-types. Substitute is another option over Baton Pass since it also allows Mr. Mime to avoid Sucker Punch and status, but it will still be vulnerable to Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hazards would go well with this team to net more OHKOs and break through Sturdy. Probopass is one of Mr. Mime's best partners as it offers Stealth Rock support, paralysis support, and resists any super effective hits targeted at Mr. Mime. Absol is a good offensive partner to take out opposing Psychic-types if you choose not to run Signal Beam since Mr. Mime will otherwise be completely walled by them. Technician Icy Wind and Thunderbolt both are inferior options since pseudo-BoltBeam coverage will only hit a few Pokemons better than the Psychic and Fighting coverage. Mr. Mime could also run Technician Hidden Power Fighting as the accuracy of Focus Blast might be unappealing, but the power of Focus Blast allows Mr. Mime to score many OHKOs after a Nasty Plot boost. Mr. Mime can also run an all-out attacking set with Nasty Plot, Focus Blast, and Signal Beam for maximum coverage but this will only be effective once all opposing Pokemon with Pursuit and Sucker Punch are eliminated. However, Baton Pass is the one major advantage Mr. Mime holds over Jynx, so an all-out attacking set would arguably be performed better by Jynx. Filter could allow Mr. Mime to take a Pursuit when it is not switching out and take a super effective special attack. Soundproof can also be used to stop phazers from being able to Roar it out.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Mr. Mime has a wide variety of options, but looking closer at its sets reveals that they are outclassed by other Pokemon or outclassed in the primary sets. Its access to Technician allows it to run a Technician set consisting of Charge Beam, Icy Wind, and an array of Hidden Powers with a Base Power of 60, along with a STAB attack. This set is unfortunately inferior to the Nasty Plot set, which offers better coverage and more power even with the Technician boost factored in. Mr. Mime can also run a dual screens set with Healing Wish but this is outclassed by Mesprit who has more bulk and can set up Stealth Rock. A Trick set with a Choice item allows Mr. Mime to cripple an opposing wall, but this limits Mr. Mime when it comes to attacking since it is easy to become Pursuit bait. It doesn't have enough power to abuse a Choice Scarf effectively and Nasty Plot gives Mr. Mime more versatility than a Choice Specs set. Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Trick Room are all good support moves that Mr. Mime can use. The cost of using them is usually too great as it will hinder Mr. Mime's type coverage or force Mr. Mime to drop its most coveted quality, Baton Passing, from its sets. Most of the time Mr. Mime will be too frail to really abuse any of those support moves anyway.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Mr. Mime has the ability to Baton Pass out of most unfavorable situations. Fortunately, Mr. Mime is easy to check and easy to force out. Psychic types will wall any sweeper sets that lack Signal Beam. Therefore Exeggutor and Mesprit can both cripple any Mr. Mime without Signal Beam with status. If Mr. Mime chooses not to run Baton Pass or Substitute, Absol and Skuntank can both use Pursuit and Sucker Punch on Mr. Mime and fear little damage in return thanks to an immunity to Psychic-type moves. Altaria, Mantine, and Articuno can take on Mr. Mime without Psyshock and attempt to cripple it with status or attempt to phaze out variants without Soundproof. However, most checks should be careful to not let Mr. Mime get too many Nasty Plots in. Murkrow can stop the Baton Pass set with Prankster Taunt and can use Thunder Wave on the sweeper set. Steel-types in general will wall any sweeper set without a Fighting-type move. Quagsire can negate any stat boosting attempts on the sweeper, but must be careful of Mr. Mime Baton Passing its boosts to a Pokemon that can beat Quagsire.</p>​


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  19. Thatsjustpeachy

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  20. Stalfos

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    [Overview]


    <p>Mr. Mime has two main roles in NU. The first is its role as a powerful and fast sweeper thanks to Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, and great offensive stats. It has a decent base 90 Speed coupled with a base 100 Special Attack and base 120 Special Defense to give it merit as a special sweeper. However, this role is highly contested and arguably done better by Jynx due to, which as access to the same coverage and stat boosting moves, but with higher offensive stats. Mr. Mime shouldn't be overlooked though. With access to Baton Pass and Soundproof, Mr. Mime isn't as vulnerable to Pursuit and phazing as Jynx is. This leads to Mr. Mime's second role in RNU: that of a dominant Baton Pass user. Soundproof makes it harder for Mr. Mime to be phazed away thanks to an immunity to Roar, and itMr. Mime has access to powerful stat boosting moves. Mr. Mime's Speed allows it to successfully use Taunt or Encore to stop opponent's from setting up against it or phazing it out via Perish Songremoving its boosts via Haze (I changed this because Soundproof Mr. Mime is immune to Perish Song too!) or similar methods. Because it is a capable sweeper and a dominant Baton Pass user, one shouldn't be so quick to overlook Mr. Mime.</p>


    [SET]
    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
    move 3: Substitute / Encore / Taunt / Barrier
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Soundproof
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]


    <p>When anyone sees a Mr. Mime in OU, it is most likely part of an obvious Baton Pass chain. This is no surprise, as with Soundproof and a wide variety of stat boosting moves, Mr. Mime is also a top candidate for a Baton Pass chain in NU, where there are even lessfewer Pokemon that can prevent it from setting up. Nasty Plot and Calm Mind are the primary stat boosts to pass on. Nasty Plot is primarily used for a quick +2 in Special Attack and, which is then Baton Passinged to a fast sweeper for a potential sweep. This is more likely to be seen outside of an all-out Baton Passing team. Calm Mind boosts Special Attack less than Nasty Plot, but the additional +1 to Special Defense is very useful. Calm Mind is the move of choice for Mr. Mime if it is part of an all-out Baton Pass chain, as the extra Special Defense allows the userMr. Mime to get more Calm Minds in against special attackers. The third moveslot has a myriad of options. Substitute and Taunt are both great ways to avoid status. Taunt allows Mr. Mime to avoid phazing from Whirlwind and Haze while preventing the opponent from setting up as well. Substitute is nice to potentially get the Baton Pass receiver in unscathed. With Encore, one hopes that the opponent sets up hazards or boosts so Mr. Mime can get free stat boosts while the opponent is forced to switch. However, this option is more situational. Barrier just offers another stat boost to be passed on, and it also patches up Mr. Mime's pathetic Defense, which might allow it to get in more stat boosts. Finally, Mr. Mime gets a STAB attack in the form of Psychic so it doesn't become Taunt bait and will be able to abuse the stat boosts itself.</p>


    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


    <p>The EVs are designed to tank hits a little better and make Substitutes a little bulkier while maintaining maximum Speed. The only attacking move Mr. Mime gets is Psychic in order to deal some damage and, although there are no Special Attack EVs, it can still do major damage after a Nasty Plot boost. Psyshock can also be used to deal with special walls better, but Psychic is generally better for a higher damage output considering the boosts Mr. Mime will accumulate. This set is designed to Baton Pass anyway, so wallbreaking should be left to designated sweepers. Charge Beam can be used for a possible Special Attack boost and with Technician it has decent power behind it. H; however, Mr. Mime loses Soundproof, which makes it more susceptible to phazing. Good partners for Mr. Mime would be thoseinclude Pokemon that can take advantage of theits boosts, such as Magmortar, Electabuzz, Jynx, Kadabra, and Rotom-S.</p>


    [SET]
    name: Special Sweeper
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
    move 3: Focus Blast / Signal Beam
    move 4: Baton Pass / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Filter
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]


    <p>Even witAlthough Jynx appearings to outclass Mr. Mime's as a sweeper position, Mr. Mime is still a very capable sweeper thanks to certain advantages. Mr. Mime can avoid Pursuit and Sucker Punch with Baton Pass and allow another sweeper to take its place. Having; this secondary Baton Pass role is probably its biggest advantage over Jynx. If the situation isn't very favorable, just bring in another sweeper. A mono-Psychic typing also gives Mr. Mime fewer weaknesses than Jynx. Access to Nasty Plot and great type coverage means that Mr. Mime will be able to deal with many threats thanks to anits insane Special Attack stat. Psychic is the main STAB move of choice, but Psyshock is an option worth noting to hit Altaria and Articuno harder. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that would otherwise wall Mr. Mime. Signal Beam, on the other hand, still allows for super effective coverage on Absol but removes Mr. Mime's ability to deal with Steel-types. Substitute is another option over Baton Pass sincbecause it also allows Mr. Mime to avoid Sucker Punch and status, but it will still be vulnerable to Pursuit.</p>


    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


    <p>Hazards would go well with this teamset to net more OHKOs and break through Sturdy. Probopass is one of Mr. Mime's best partners as it offers Stealth Rock support,and paralysis support, and resists any super effective hits targeted at Mr. Mime. Absol is a good offensive partner to take out opposing Psychic-types if you choose not to run Signal Beam since, as Mr. Mime will otherwise be completely walled by them. Technician Icy Wind and Thunderbolt both are inferior options sincbecause pseudo-BoltBeam coverage will only hit a few Pokemons better than the Psychic- and Fighting-type coverage. Mr. Mime could also run Technician Hidden Power Fighting as the accuracy of Focus Blast might be unappealing, but the power of Focus Blast allows Mr. Mime to score many OHKOs after a Nasty Plot boost. Mr. Mime can also run an all-out attacking set with Nasty Plot, Focus Blast, and Signal Beam for maximum coverage, but this will only be effective once all opposing Pokemon with Pursuit and Sucker Punch are eliminated. HoweverFurthermore, Baton Pass is the one major advantage Mr. Mime holds over Jynx, so an all-out attacking set would arguably be performed better by Jynx. Filter could allow Mr. Mime to take a Pursuit when it is not switching out and take a super effective special attack. Soundproof can also be used to stop phazers from being able to Roar it out.</p>


    [Other Options]


    <p>Mr. Mime has a wide variety of options, but looking closer at its sets reveals that they are outclassed by other Pokemon or outclassed in the primary sets. Its access to Technician allows it to run a Technician set consisting of Charge Beam, Icy Wind, and an array of Hidden Powers with a Base Power of 60, along with a STAB attack. This set is unfortunately inferior to the Nasty Plot set, which offers better coverage and more power even with the Technician boost factored in. Mr. Mime can also run a dual screens set with Healing Wish, but this is outclassed by Mesprit, whoich has more bulk and can set up Stealth Rock. A Trick set with a Choice item allows Mr. Mime to cripple an opposing wall, but this limits Mr. Mime when it comes to attacking sinceas it is easy to become Pursuit bait. It doesn't have enough power to abuse a Choice Scarf effectively, and Nasty Plot gives Mr. Mime more versatility than a Choice Specs set. Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Trick Room are all good support moves that Mr. Mime can use. THowever, the cost of using them is usually too great as itthey will hinder Mr. Mime's type coverage or force Mr. Mimeit to drop its most coveted quality, Baton Passing, from its sets. Most of the time Mr. Mime will be too frail to really abuse any of those support moves anyway.</p>


    [Checks and Counters]


    <p>Mr. Mime has the ability to Baton Pass out of most unfavorable situations. Fortunately, Mr. Mime is easy to check and easy to force out. Psychic-types will wall any sweeper sets that lack Signal Beam. Therefore, Exeggutor and Mesprit can both cripple any Mr. Mime without Signal Beam with status. If Mr. Mime chooses not to run Baton Pass or Substitute, Absol and Skuntank can both use Pursuit and Sucker Punch on Mr. Mime and fear little damage in return thanks to an immunity to Psychic-type moves. Altaria, Mantine, and Articuno can take on Mr. Mime without Psyshock and attempt to cripple it with status or attempt to phaze out variants without Soundproof. However, most checks should be careful to not let Mr. Mime get too many Nasty Plots in. Murkrow can stop the Baton Pass set with Prankster Taunt and can use Thunder Wave on the sweeper set. Steel-types in general will wall any sweeper set without a Fighting-type move. Quagsire can negate any stat boosting attempts on the sweeper, but must be careful of Mr. Mime Baton Passing its boosts to a Pokemon that can beat Quagsire.</p>


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    [Overview]

    <p>Mr. Mime has two main roles in NU. The first is its role as a powerful and fast sweeper thanks to Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, and great offensive stats. It has a decent base 90 Speed coupled with base 100 Special Attack and base 120 Special Defense to give it merit as a special sweeper. However, this role is highly contested and arguably done better by Jynx, which as access to the same coverage and stat boosting moves, but with higher offensive stats. Mr. Mime shouldn't be overlooked though. With access to Baton Pass and Soundproof, Mr. Mime isn't as vulnerable to Pursuit and phazing as Jynx is. This leads to Mr. Mime's second role in NU: that of a dominant Baton Pass user. Soundproof makes it harder for Mr. Mime to be phazed away thanks to an immunity to Roar, and Mr. Mime has access to powerful stat boosting moves. Mr. Mime's Speed allows it to successfully use Taunt or Encore to stop opponents from setting up against it or removing its boosts via Haze or similar methods. Because it is a capable sweeper and a dominant Baton Pass user, one shouldn't be so quick to overlook Mr. Mime.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
    move 3: Substitute / Encore / Taunt / Barrier
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Soundproof
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>When anyone sees a Mr. Mime in OU, it is most likely part of an obvious Baton Pass chain. This is no surprise, as with Soundproof and a wide variety of stat boosting moves, Mr. Mime is also a top candidate for a Baton Pass chain in NU, where there are even fewer Pokemon that can prevent it from setting up. Nasty Plot and Calm Mind are the primary stat boosts to pass. Nasty Plot is primarily used for a quick +2 in Special Attack, which is then Baton Passed to a fast sweeper for a potential sweep. This is more likely to be seen outside of an all-out Baton Passing team. Calm Mind boosts Special Attack less than Nasty Plot, but the additional +1 to Special Defense is very useful. Calm Mind is the move of choice for Mr. Mime if it is part of an all-out Baton Pass chain, as the extra Special Defense allows Mr. Mime to get more Calm Minds in against special attackers. The third moveslot has a myriad of options. Substitute and Taunt are both great ways to avoid status. Taunt allows Mr. Mime to avoid phazing from Whirlwind and Haze while preventing the opponent from setting up as well. Substitute is nice to potentially get the Baton Pass receiver in unscathed. With Encore, one hopes that the opponent sets up hazards or boosts so Mr. Mime can get free stat boosts while the opponent is forced to switch. However, this option is more situational. Barrier offers another stat boost to be passed on, and it also patches up Mr. Mime's pathetic Defense, which might allow it to get in more stat boosts. Finally, Mr. Mime gets a STAB attack in the form of Psychic so it doesn't become Taunt bait and will be able to abuse the stat boosts itself.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are designed to tank hits a little better and make Substitutes a little bulkier while maintaining maximum Speed. The only attacking move Mr. Mime gets is Psychic and, although there are no Special Attack EVs, it can still do major damage after a Nasty Plot boost. Psyshock can also be used to deal with special walls better, but Psychic is generally better for a higher damage output considering the boosts Mr. Mime will accumulate. This set is designed to Baton Pass anyway, so wallbreaking should be left to designated sweepers. Charge Beam can be used for a possible Special Attack boost and with Technician it has decent power behind it; however, Mr. Mime loses Soundproof, which makes it more susceptible to phazing. Good partners for Mr. Mime include Pokemon that can take advantage of its boosts, such as Magmortar, Electabuzz, Jynx, Kadabra, and Rotom-S.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Special Sweeper
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
    move 3: Focus Blast / Signal Beam
    move 4: Baton Pass / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Filter
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Jynx appears to outclass Mr. Mime as a sweeper, Mr. Mime is still a very capable sweeper thanks to certain advantages. Mr. Mime can avoid Pursuit and Sucker Punch with Baton Pass and allow another sweeper to take its place; this secondary Baton Pass role is probably its biggest advantage over Jynx. If the situation isn't very favorable, just bring in another sweeper. A mono-Psychic typing also gives Mr. Mime fewer weaknesses than Jynx. Access to Nasty Plot and great type coverage means that Mr. Mime will be able to deal with many threats thanks to its insane Special Attack stat. Psychic is the main STAB move of choice, but Psyshock is an option worth noting to hit Altaria and Articuno harder. Focus Blast hits the Steel-types that would otherwise wall Mr. Mime. Signal Beam, on the other hand, still allows for super effective coverage on Absol but removes Mr. Mime's ability to deal with Steel-types. Substitute is another option over Baton Pass because it also allows Mr. Mime to avoid Sucker Punch and status, but it will still be vulnerable to Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hazards would go well with this set to net more OHKOs and break through Sturdy. Probopass is one of Mr. Mime's best partners as it offers Stealth Rock and paralysis support and resists any super effective hits targeted at Mr. Mime. Absol is a good offensive partner to take out opposing Psychic-types if you choose not to run Signal Beam, as Mr. Mime will otherwise be completely walled by them. Technician Icy Wind and Thunderbolt both are inferior options because pseudo-BoltBeam coverage will only hit a few Pokemon better than the Psychic- and Fighting-type coverage. Mr. Mime could also run Technician Hidden Power Fighting as the accuracy of Focus Blast might be unappealing, but the power of Focus Blast allows Mr. Mime to score many OHKOs after a Nasty Plot boost. Mr. Mime can also run an all-out attacking set with Nasty Plot, Focus Blast, and Signal Beam for maximum coverage, but this will only be effective once all opposing Pokemon with Pursuit and Sucker Punch are eliminated. Furthermore, Baton Pass is the one major advantage Mr. Mime holds over Jynx, so an all-out attacking set would arguably be performed better by Jynx. Filter could allow Mr. Mime to take a Pursuit when it is not switching out and take a super effective special attack. Soundproof can also be used to stop phazers from being able to Roar it out.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Mr. Mime has a wide variety of options, but looking closer at its sets reveals that they are outclassed by other Pokemon or outclassed in the primary sets. Its access to Technician allows it to run a set consisting of Charge Beam, Icy Wind, and an array of Hidden Powers with a Base Power of 60, along with a STAB attack. This set is unfortunately inferior to the Nasty Plot set, which offers better coverage and more power even with the Technician boost factored in. Mr. Mime can also run a dual screens set with Healing Wish, but this is outclassed by Mesprit, which has more bulk and can set up Stealth Rock. A Trick set with a Choice item allows Mr. Mime to cripple an opposing wall, but this limits Mr. Mime when it comes to attacking as it is easy to become Pursuit bait. It doesn't have enough power to abuse a Choice Scarf effectively, and Nasty Plot gives Mr. Mime more versatility than a Choice Specs set. Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Trick Room are all good support moves that Mr. Mime can use. However, the cost of using them is usually too great as they will hinder Mr. Mime's type coverage or force it to drop its most coveted quality, Baton Passing, from its sets. Most of the time Mr. Mime will be too frail to really abuse any of those support moves anyway.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Mr. Mime has the ability to Baton Pass out of most unfavorable situations. Fortunately, Mr. Mime is easy to check and easy to force out. Psychic-types will wall any sweeper sets that lack Signal Beam. Therefore, Exeggutor and Mesprit can both cripple any Mr. Mime without Signal Beam with status. If Mr. Mime chooses not to run Baton Pass or Substitute, Absol and Skuntank can both use Pursuit and Sucker Punch on Mr. Mime and fear little damage in return thanks to an immunity to Psychic-type moves. Altaria, Mantine, and Articuno can take on Mr. Mime without Psyshock and attempt to cripple it with status or phaze out variants without Soundproof. However, most checks should be careful to not let Mr. Mime get too many Nasty Plots in. Murkrow can stop the Baton Pass set with Prankster Taunt and can use Thunder Wave on the sweeper set. Steel-types in general will wall any sweeper set without a Fighting-type move. Quagsire can negate any stat boosting attempts on the sweeper, but must be careful of Mr. Mime Baton Passing its boosts to a Pokemon that can beat Quagsire.</p>


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  21. Thatsjustpeachy

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