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Murkrow (BW2 Revamp)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Governess, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Governess

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    [Overview]

    <p>With a large non-attacking movepool containing moves such as Calm Mind, Swagger, and FeatherDance to utilize alongside its ability, Prankster, Murkrow can be quite versatile. While it might seem frail at first glance, Eviolite and its access to Roost allow Murkrow to maintain longevity on the field to make its mark. However even with Eviolite, Murkrow is still quite easy to get past, as it takes a lot of damage from the majority of the tier. It faces competition from Liepard, a fellow Prankster user, which has a higher Speed stat to rely on. Mandibuzz, who shares the same typing as Murkrow, also rivals it in terms of bulk and team support.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Calm Mind
    move 1: Calm Mind
    move 2: Roost
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: FeatherDance / Substitute
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD

    <p>Blessed with Prankster, access to Roost, and a decent Special Attack, Murkrow can find success as a Calm Mind user. With Eviolite, Murkrow can last longer on the field and find more opportunities to set up. This set is great for dealing with Psychic-types, such as Gardevoir, but it cannot switch into some of their attacks, as it is still a bit frail. Calm Mind is the center point of this set, raising Dark Pulse's power and making Murkrow more specially defensive. Roost allows Murkrow to heal itself in a pinch, and it gets boosted priority thanks to Prankster. FeatherDance allows Murkrow to deal with the majority of physical attackers in the tier, most notably Sawk, by crippling them. Calm Mind and FeatherDance combine very well to grant Murkrow more chances to force switches and set up. However, Substitute can be used to avoid status conditions that can cripple Murkrow.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>248 HP EVs allow Murkrow to switch into Stealth Rock four times at full HP. 252 Defense EVs and a Bold nature balance out Murkrow's defenses with Calm Mind. Prankster is key to in this set, as it gives Murkrow a boost in priority when using non-attacking moves, which form the majority here. There are not many alternative move selections for this set; the only notable one would be Hidden Power Flying, which allows Murkrow to deal with Fighting-types. However, Dark Pulse offers more power.</p>

    <p>If Murkrow isn't using Substitute, status conditions can really hinder its sweeping capabilities. Clerics such as Lickilicky, Musharna, and Vileplume are good partners, as they can tank attacks that Murkrow cannot take. Musharna in particular can also deal with Fighting-types that Murkrow cannot really harm. Sawk is a good ally, as it can deal with Steel-, Rock-, and opposing Dark-types Murkrow can't scratch. Sawk also has nice synergy with Musharna, which can work well in Murkrow's favor. While Jynx cannot switch into Dark Pulse, it can quickly dispose of Murkrow if it hasn't begun setting up Calm Mind; Metang and Choice Scarf Charizard can defeat Jynx. Pokemon that can phaze Murkrow, such as Serperior and Eelektross, can prevent it from setting up successfully. Dragonair is a good counter to Eelektross, and Sap Sipper Miltank and Swellow fare well against Serperior. Miltank also can offer Heal Bell support to Murkrow. Toxic Spikes support is appreciated, as it can weaken the adversary, making it much easier for Murkrow to handle. Garbodor and Scolipede are good partners in that department.</p>

    [SET]
    name: SubSwagger
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Swagger
    move 3: Roost
    move 4: Foul Play
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
    ivs: 0 Atk

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set relies heavily on luck, but it can be very frustrating to face and often forces lots of switches. The main strategy is to get behind a Substitute, then cripple the opponent with Swagger. While the opponent is struggling to attack, Murkrow can use the Attack boost from Swagger against them with Foul Play, and it can heal itself with Roost when necessary. Substitute allows Murkrow to avoid status and protect itself from weak attacks, while also being used to fish for confusion; potentially getting a Substitute up for free. Swagger and Foul Play are the key aspects of the set. Swagger is a high-risk high-reward type of move, as if it succeeds in making the target hit itself in confusion, Foul Play&mdash;which does damage based off the opponent's Attack stat&mdash;will inflict massive damage. However, if the opponent fails to succumb, Murkrow might take a lot of damage. Roost is the final move of the set, healing Murkrow when necessary.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Eviolite and Prankster are mandatory for this set; those two traits are what make Murkrow worth using. 248 HP allows Murkrow to switch into Stealth Rock four times at full HP. Thunder Wave can be used to cripple the opponent further, but there isn't enough space in Murkrow's moveset for it.</p>

    <p>Because this set is luck-based and self-reliant, Murkrow does not require much support. Murkrow forces a lot of switches with this set, so having entry hazards on the field can severely weaken the foe. Carracosta and Scolipede are good examples of entry hazard setters to use with Murkrow. In addition, Murkrow's main job is to weaken the opponent for its teammates, so sweepers who can clean up the remaining opposition, such as Charizard, Jynx, and Ludicolo, make good partners. Taunt can really hinder Murkrow's usefulness if it hits, so be aware of its users in general; there aren't any specific partners to have to defeat them. Finally, Liepard can be used with Murkrow if you want to annoy the opponent even more, as it plays a very similar role to Murkrow.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>With Mean Look, Perish Song, and Prankster, Murkrow can play the role of a perish trapper to net a free KO against a Pokemon or two. However, opponents will often switch in Pokemon that can handle Murkrow before Mean Look can even be used, so it will often fail. Taunt alongside Prankster and Roost can make Murkrow a good stallbreaker, however it faces heavy competition with Mandibuzz, who has superior bulk and is generally fast enough to outspeed walls regardless. A great base 91 Speed, along with powerful offensive moves such as Brave Bird, Heat Wave, and Sucker Punch, gives Murkrow the option of running a successful Life Orb set. However, Murkrow is very frail without an Eviolite and thus easy to KO. Confuse Ray is another move to consider that can cripple the opponent further, but Murkrow rarely finds the space to run it. With a weather rock, Murkrow can be a useful weather inducer, but without Eviolite, it is KOed with ease, and there are many other Pokemon who can fulfill the role better than Murkrow could. Tailwind can be used to further support the team through Speed, but Murkrow has difficulty fitting it into a moveset. A set centered around FeatherDance can be used to cripple physical attackers, but in most cases, using both Calm Mind and FeatherDance produces the best results, as it gives Murkrow better overall defenses. While Murkrow has many other options to consider, very few of them are worth deviating from its standard sets.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Taunt users can ruin Murkrow, as it often relies on non-attacking moves, so Pokemon such as Samurott and Skuntank are good checks. Even with Eviolite, Murkrow is still rather frail, so Pokemon with powerful or super effective moves to use against it, such as Rotom-F, Eelektross, and Piloswine, are good as well. Carracosta, Gigalith, and Golem also fit into this category, as they can tank Murkrow's hits and KO it with their Rock-type STAB moves. Golem in particular can also break Murkrow's Substitutes with Rock Blast. Specially bulky Pokemon, such as Flareon and Lickilicky, are good counters to the Calm Mind set, as Murkrow cannot do a thing to them, even with Calm Mind boosts. However if Flareon and Lickilicky lack Roar and Dragon Tail, respectively, Murkrow has the ability to set up on them without much trouble. In Lickilicky's case, if Murkrow has Substitute it can avoid being phazed by Dragon Tail. It is difficult to inflict status onto Murkrow due to Prankster and Substitute, and setting up against it or attacking it might be challenging because of its plethora of non-attacking moves. However, Murkrow cannot switch into very many attacks, so hitting it on the switch is a great tactic to defeat it.</p>


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  2. Governess

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    Ok, I can't change the topic title, but I have gotten this in skeleton form; it's now ready to be looked over by QC! :)
  3. tennisace

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    Time for a patented "tennisace looks at this but doesnt stamp it"

    -I really really really really really hate swagger... but Prankster Swagger + STAB Foul Play probably deserves a set. I don't know what the optimal set would be though, either Eviolite + Roost / Swagger / Foul Play / TWave (vulnerable to toxic) or Leftovers + Sub / Swagger / Foul Play / Twave (I wouldn't call it "bulky"). By the numbers, looks like the Sub set is more common.

    -CM Feather Dance is cool and all but it's kinda hard to set up. It should prolly be listed under the swagger set.
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    Ok, thank you tennisace. Waiting for other fellow QC's input on the set before it is official !_!
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    some variant of the set tennisace posted has to be on site. Personally I would want sub+roost instead of either of those. But all three have some viability.

    What Murkrow has over Liepard is recovery, so I think the set should be:

    Substitute / Swagger / Roost / Foul Play @ eviolite

    again im not really sure on what the optimal set is, but the set I have is my favourite. QC will need to discuss this though!
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    Ok, thank you, Raseri. I'll have a placeholder set above the CM set for whatever set you guys decide!
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    Raseri's set works, with Thunder Wave in AC. I definitely think that CM should be before Swagger, it is way more consistent and Swagger is completely luck based.
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    Thank you, Raseri and ebeast. Once I've used the set a bit more, I'll add to this.
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    (Sorry for double posting) I have added the Swagger set ebeast + Raseri have mentioned into the analysis! :)
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    Wait, why does the SwagKrow have any Attack EVs at all? It should be absolute minimum (Bold, 0 Atk EVs and IVs) to minimize damage from self-confusion and opposing Foul Plays.
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    My apologies; I'll make the change on it right away. Never used this kind of Murkrow before, so I had no idea what EV spread to use. Nonetheless, I'll fix it up. ^^;
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    (Sorry for double posting) but bumping this, as I have added the Swagger set quite a while ago. May it be looked over by QC?
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    hp flying AC in first set. Not as good as dark pulse now but it can sweep different things.

    Also mention Liepard as a partner if you really want to annoy people. Do add it though, the more the merrier! (for swag set)

    Also I like the name SubSwagger for it, but idk what everyone else thinks

    1/3 when these are added
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    Thank you, Raseri. I added the changed and implemented the check. One more check for it to be written! :)
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    [Overview]
    Remove the 4th point, it's not really that relevant when it's mainly a set up Pokemon anyways.

    [Set Comments] (CM)
    Murkrow isn't a late-game sweeper kind of Pokemon, it can come in whenever it gets a free opportunity to and begin to set up using Calm Mind and Feather Dance to make it harder for it to be broken down. In your last point to say Substitute avoids Taunt; it actually does not.

    [Additional Comments] (CM)
    There is a bad habit of giving every SR weak mon a recommendation for Spin support in AC. There really is not need for it as Murkrow is self sufficient; remove the point. Add that Sawk can also prevent Stealth Rock from being set up due to Mold Breaker.

    [Set Comments] (SubSwagger)
    There is no real prediction needed, the set relies solely on luck.

    [Additional Comments] (SubSwagger)
    Again no need to mention spinners.

    QC Approved 2/3
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    Thank you, ebeast, and I will try to break that habit from now on. I'll get this written out as soon as I can.
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    "Life Orb - Murkrow has plenty of attacks to make use of a Life Orb set, such as Brave Bird, Heat Wave, and Shadow Ball. However, Murkrow is rather frail without an Eviolite, and is thus very easy to defeat."

    Mention Sucker Punch too and take out Shadow Ball, and give the set a bit more credit because it is pretty strong and Murkrow is pretty fast (91 base speed is hella good). Life Orb Sucker Punches and Brave Birds hit a lot of things hard in the meta but dont oversell it too much tho.
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    Thank you, Annoyer. I have removed Shadow Ball, added Sucker Punch, and gave the set more credit for its usefulness. :)
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    (Sorry for double posting) I have fully written this out, so it is ready for a final look-at from QC! :)
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    Soulgazer, WhiteDMist and Raseri like this.
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    Thank you, tennisace. Is is now ready for GP! :D
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    gp 1/2
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    Thank you, sirndpt, I have implemented the check! :)
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    GP check. Good job on writing this.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Murkrow has With a large non-attacking movepool containing moves such as Calm Mind, Swagger, and FeatherDance to utilize alongside its ability, Prankster. With moves such as Calm Mind, Swagger, and FeatherDance, Murkrow can be difficult to take down, as Prankster's boost in priority allows it to take advantage of those moves (I'm fusing these two sentences because they seemed a bit redundant but feel free to deal with this differently than I did if you don't like my change). While it might seem frail at first glance, its access to Eviolite and its access to Roost allow Murkrow to maintain longevity on the field to make its mark. However, (remove comma) even with Eviolite, Murkrow is still quite easy to get past, as it takes a lot of damage from the majority of the tier. It faces competition from Liepard, a fellow Prankster user, which has a higher Speed stat to rely on. Mandibuzz, who shares the same typing as Murkrow, also rivals it in terms of bulk and team support.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Calm Mind
    move 1: Calm Mind
    move 2: Roost
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: FeatherDance / Substitute
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD

    <p>Blessed with Prankster, access to Roost, and a decent Special Attack, Murkrow can find success as a Calm Mind user. With Eviolite, Murkrow can last longer on the field and find more opportunities to set up. This set is great for dealing with Psychic-types, such as Gardevoir, much easier, but it cannot switch into some of their attacks, as Murkrow it is still a bit frail. Calm Mind is the center point of this set, raising Dark Pulse's power and making Murkrow more specially defensive. Roost allows Murkrow to heal itself in a pinch, and it gets boosted priority thanks to Prankster. FeatherDance allows Murkrow to deal with the majority of physical attackers in the tier, most notably Sawk, by crippling them. Calm Mind and FeatherDance combine very well to grant Murkrow more chances to force switches and set up. However, Substitute can be used to avoid status conditions that can cripple Murkrow.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>248 HP EVs allow Murkrow to switch into Stealth Rock four times at full HP. 252 Defense EVs and a Bold nature balance out Murkrow's defenses with Calm Mind. Prankster is the key factor in key to this set, as it gives Murkrow a boost in priority when using non-attacking moves, which form the majority of the set here (this is optional; it just seemed a little redundant to say set twice here, but you can leave it how you have it or make a different change if you like). There are not many alternative move selections for this set; the only notable one would be Hidden Power Flying, which allows Murkrow to deal with Fighting-types. However, Dark Pulse offers more power.</p>

    <p>If Murkrow isn't using Substitute, status conditions can really hinder its sweeping capabilities. Clerics such as Lickilicky, Musharna, and Vileplume are good partners, as they can tank attacks that Murkrow cannot take. Musharna in particular can also deal with Fighting-types that Murkrow cannot really harm. Sawk is a good ally, as it can deal with Steel-, Rock Rock-, and opposing Dark-types Murkrow can't scar. Sawk also has nice synergy with Musharna, which can work well in Murkrow's favor. While Jynx cannot switch into Dark Pulse, it can quickly dispose of Murkrow if it hasn't begun setting up Calm Mind; Metang and Choice Scarf Charizard can defeat Jynx. Pokemon that can phaze Murkrow, such as Serperior and Eelektross, can prevent it from setting up successfully. Dragonair is a good counter to Eelektross, and Sap Sipper Miltank and Swellow fare well against Serperior. Miltank also can offer Heal Bell support to Murkrow. Toxic Spikes support is appreciated, as it can weaken the adversary, making it much easier for Murkrow to handle. Garbodor and Scolipede are good partners in that department.</p>

    [SET]
    name: SubSwagger
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Swagger
    move 3: Roost
    move 4: Foul Play
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
    ivs: 0 Atk

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set relies heavily on luck, but it can be very frustrating to face, (remove comma) and often forces lots of switches. The main strategy is to get behind a Substitute, then cripple the opponent with Swagger. While the opponent is struggling to attack, Murkrow can use the Attack boost from Swagger against them with Foul Play, and it can heal itself with Roost when necessary. Substitute allows Murkrow to avoid status while protecting and protect itself from weak attacks. Swagger and Foul Play are the key aspects of the set. Swagger is a high-risk-high-reward high-risk high-reward type of move, as if it succeeds in confusing making the target hit itself in confusion, Foul Play&mdash;which does damage based off the opponent's Attack stat&mdash;will inflict massive damage. However, if the opponent fails to succumb to Swagger's confusion, Murkrow might take a lot of damage. Roost is the final move of the set, healing Murkrow when necessary.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Eviolite and Prankster are mandatory for this set; those two traits are what makes make Murkrow worth using. 248 HP allows Murkrow to switch into Stealth Rock four times at full HP. 252 Defense EVs with a Bold nature maximizes Murkrow's Defense. (this is optional; it seems unnecessary to say to me unless you're going to say something specific, but you can leave it in if you want to) Thunder Wave can be used to cripple the opponent further, but there generally isn't enough space in Murkrow's moveset for it.</p>

    <p>Because this set is luck-based and self-reliant, Murkrow does not require much support. Murkrow forces a lot of switches with this set, so having entry hazards on the field can severely weaken the foe. Carracosta and Scolipede are good examples of entry hazard setters to use with Murkrow. In addition, Murkrow's main job is to weaken the opponent for its teammates, so sweepers who can clean up the remaining of the opposition (change this to either 'the remaining opposition' or the remainder of the opposition'), such as Charizard, Jynx, and Ludicolo, make good partners. Taunt can really hinder Murkrow's usefulness if it hits, so be aware of Taunt its users in general; there aren't any specific partners to have to defeat them. Finally, Liepard can be used with Murkrow if you want to annoy the opponent even more, as Liepard it plays a very similar role to Murkrow.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>With Mean Look, Perish Song, and Prankster, Murkrow can play the role of a Perish Trapper perish trapper (I'm pretty sure (not 100% though) this should be lower case because it's a set name and only includes part of the name of the move) to net a free KO against a Pokemon or two. However, many Pokemon in the tier can switch into Murkrow opponents will often switch in Pokemon that can handle Murkrow before Mean Look can even be used, so it will often fail. A great base 91 Speed, along with powerful offensive moves such as Brave Bird, Heat Wave, and Sucker Punch, gives Murkrow the option of running a successful Life Orb set. However, Murkrow is very frail without an Eviolite and thus easy to KO. Confuse Ray is another move to consider that can cripple the opponent further, but Murkrow rarely finds the space to run it. With a weather rock, Murkrow can be a useful weather inducer, but without Eviolite, Murkrow it is KOed with ease, and there are many other Pokemon who can fulfill the role better than Murkrow could. Tailwind can be used to further support the team through speed Speed, but Murkrow has difficulty fitting it into a moveset. A set centered around FeatherDance can be used to cripple physical attackers, but in most cases, using both Calm Mind and FeatherDance produce produces the best results, as it gives Murkrow better overall defenses. While Murkrow has many other options to consider, very few of them are worth deviating from its standard sets.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Taunt users can ruin Murkrow, as it often relies on non-attacking moves, so Pokemon such as Samurott and Skuntank are good checks. Even with Eviolite, Murkrow is still rather frail, so Pokemon with powerful or super effective moves to use against Murkrow it, such as Rotom-F, Eelektross, and Piloswine, are good to use against Murkrow (if you want to phrase this differently feel free, but you used the expression 'to use against Murkrow' twice in one sentence and it seemed a little redundant) as well. Carracosta, Gigalith, and Golem also fit into this category, as they can tank Murkrow's hits and KO it with their Rock-type STAB moves. Golem in particular can also break Murkrow's Substitutes with Rock Blast. Specially bulky Pokemon, such as Flareon and Lickilicky, are good counters to the Calm Mind set, as Murkrow cannot do a thing to them, even with Calm Mind boosts. It is difficult to inflict status onto Murkrow due to Prankster and Substitute, and setting up against it or attacking it might seem be challenging because of its plethora of non-attacking moves. However, Murkrow cannot switch into very many attacks, so hitting it on the switch is a great tactic to defeat Murkrow it.</p>


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    Thank you, melvni. This is now ready to go on-site! :)

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