This thread will be moderated to keep discussion focused. Near-Universal Moves Basically, there apparently is a common belief that outside of UC spamming, most Pokémon in general take "too many matches" in order to become good, assuming the Pokémon was fresh. Usually, it can take a good 5-6 battles on average from my count to get some 3-Stage Pokémon from fresh to fully evolved with DW Ability Unlocked, & by then it is not uncommon to see such Pokémon only have a movepool count to be roughly 9-10 more moves on average than what it had fresh. One of these factors mainly comes down to the fact that you can usually only have enough MC to buy 1-4 moves a battle with each of your Pokémon, & then you have the choice of either buying important attacking/non-attacking moves to boost your fire-power, or invest in staples such as Protect, Substitute, etc. to give your Pokémon some sort of defence & the ability to screw up plays. This is a dilemma that needlessly contributes to slow development, & not everyone has the UC, or wants to ref battles, just to accelerate development. Deck Knight came in during the first of the many counter-farming debates on #capasb, & was more struck by this argument about Pokémon taking too many matches to become good. He drafted up a solution to this problem: There were mixed views on this proposal, but if there was anything that would be agreed on, that was that this proposal needed a discussion. That is why we are here — To discuss this proposal as to whether this is a good idea or not, any alternatives, any improvements, etc. Discussion should focus on the following questions: Would the idea of giving Pokémon near-universal moves for free be a good idea? Could this proposal be improved? How? What moves should or should not be given away for free & why? Is there a better way to help accelerate development other than this idea? Any other issues in a similar vein to this proposal that can be raised? ...And any other things I forgot to mention... Which is likely... At any rate, keep on topic & keep discussion civil. Otherwise, time to discuss this proposal.