Project NeverUsed Dark Horse Project (Check Post #153)

[Adaire]

I have a feeling Tennis will be very good at this...
Alt: Dark Adaire Dark Horse:

Venom
The Squad:

The Math

Arbok 0.86622%
Xatu 13.39342%
Poliwrath 4.47033%
Rhydon 7.61862%
Roselia 0.53524%
Pinsir 4.03040%
Total: 30.91423

Thoughts:
Arbok is a really underated mon, it has a great movepool and a brilliant boosting move in coil which not only raises attack and defense, but accuracy so moves like gunk shot and aqua tail hit almost all of the time, not to mention being able to bop most psychic types with sucker punch which is benefitted from sneasel leaving making the psychic types not forced to run colbur. Not to mention its great abilities which both benefit it, intimidate lets it set up on some weak attackers and shed skin lets it set up on status users like lanturn or lilligant. Arbok truly is a dark horse.... or snake?

 

[Realistic Waters]

Alt: Dark Horse Waters
Dark Horse: Whiscash

usage

Whiscash: 0.13630%
Dustox: 0.04259%
Cryogonal: 4.81098%
Metang: 0.10620%
Purugly: 0.27102%
Carbink: 0.46320%
Total: 5.83028%

 

[Abejas]

Fresh Alt: Dark Horse Allstar
Dark Horse: Zebstrika
Team usage: 29.08%

Got to 1350 elo

 

[QueenOfLuvdiscs]

Stoutland (0.49) / Kadabra (1.82) / Hippopotas (0.38) / Lilligant (9.21) / Pelipper (1.29) / Rotom (8.55)
Team usage: 21.74
alt: years and years

 

[Oda]

Alt: BasedGodRelicanth
Dark Horse: Relicanth

Will think of a squad soon.

Edit:

0.86842% -Leafeon Phy Def Wish pass
0.46154% - relicanth Choice Band
7.61862%- rhydon Spdef SR
4.81098% - crygonal Offensive Icicicle Plate Spinner
1.50449%- raichu Life Orb
11.10922% mespirit Healing Wish Scarf

around 30 % usage

Still Testing the team

 

[Parpar]

Alt: off my grid
Dark Horse: Lunatone
Team Usage: Lunatone (.35%) Poliwrath (4.47%) Liepard (8.67%) Hariyama (7.89) Dusclops (.92%) Probopass (1.37%) = 23.67

EDIT:
Lunatone has access to SR with a decent movepool. There's probably a better set Lunatone can use besides the one I chosen. It usually gets out sped by most of tier and it's frailness + common weaknesses limits potential. There's better psychics in the tier besides Lunatone but I had fun using it. The team struggled with offense...a lot.

Peaked 1500

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Team

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Lunatone @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 120 HP / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Signal Beam
- Ice Beam

Poliwrath @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 220 HP / 252 SpA / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Vacuum Wave
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast

Liepard @ Black Glasses
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Atk / 248 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- U-turn
- Encore

Dusclops @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Will-O-Wisp
- Sleep Talk

Hariyama @ Assault Vest
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Bullet Punch

Probopass @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Earth Power
- Volt Switch
- Thunder Wave
- Flash Cannon

 

[Disjunction]

NVM WHO PUT AURORUS IN A- SMH

I swear I'm a fucking oracle

I'll get a jump on this when I'm available in a couple days :)

 

[Louna]

alt: Holiano tout NU
dark horse: Rapidash
Team usage :
Crustle 3.71661%
Rapidash 0.50112%
Cacturne 6.08345%
Kingler 0.66782%
Fraxure 0.10500%
Zebstrika 0.90792%

Total : 11,98192%

 

[Jim E. Russler]

Alt: jum pluff pass
Dark Horse: Jumpluff

Initial team: Jumpluff (0.66%) / Carracosta (3.16%) / Flareon (1.38%) / Sandslash (8.3%) / Weezing (8.73%) / Zebstrika (0.9%)
Combined usage: 23.15%

Reading about this challenge reminded me of a conversation I had about PS with a friend who said that Jumpluff was really underrated in lower tiers. I don't know how well I'll do laddering with this team, but its definitely a good opportunity to see if he was right. It should be interesting to see how each dark horse selection performs on the ladder. Good luck, everyone!

peak ladder

 

[Shaneghoul]

Alt: Dark Horse Shane
Dark Horse: Kadabra
Love this idea NV, can't wait to try it xd

Edit: Into to B rank hall of fame, will ladder more tomorrow :3 http://puu.sh/iZJ3s/3f00fcef2f.png

Usage

Kadabra 1.81851%
Carracosta 3.16469%
Roselia 0.53524%
Misdreavus 0.77557%
Liepard 8.67868%
Hariyama 7.89953%
Total: 25.26%

 

[Disjunction]

Gonna take this as an opportunity to say that if you want ideas for some cool mons to build with that are likely to be below the usage cutoff, the NU Lower Tier Niche Archive is a great resource for you!!!!

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nu-lower-tier-niche-archive.3540894/

oracle vision #2 I swear, holy..

 

[nv]

Gonna take this as an opportunity to say that if you want ideas for some cool mons to build with that are likely to be below the usage cutoff, the NU Lower Tier Niche Archive is a great resource for you!!!!

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nu-lower-tier-niche-archive.3540894/

oracle vision #2 I swear, holy..

Way to use my thread to promote your own... <_<

Jk, jk...teamwork is best!!!

 

[DnB]

alt: dark chatot
dark horse: chatot

current team:

chatot 1,7%
sawk 8,2%
torterra 2,9%
mantine 4,4%
musharna 3,4%
kanga 5,7%
sum: less then 30%

just reached c rank yaaaay....
more is coming :P

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[cyanize]

in in in
alt: The Dark Wind
Dark Horse: Frogadier n_n
Team: Frogadier (0.52%) , Simisage (0.13%), Ninetales (0.63%), Fletchinder (8.77%), Pawniard (2.86%), Kabutops (12.53%)= 25.44% usage

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Krystal (Ninetales) @ Charcoal
Ability: Flash Fire
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Overheat
- Power Swap
- Energy Ball
- Psyshock

cheeki wanka (Simisage) @ Life Orb
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Focus Blast

:) (Frogadier) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- U-turn
- Taunt
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump

thanksgiving (Fletchinder)
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Acrobatics
- Swords Dance
- Roost

chess master (Pawniard) @ Eviolite
Ability: Defiant
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- X-Scissor
- Knock Off

tops kek (Kabutops) @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet
- Rapid Spin

dw about the weird sets, i got thisss

e:fixed sets

 

[Tornadus-Senpai]

Alt:Dark Rotom-Chill
Dark Horse: Rotom-Frost
Team: Rotom-Chill(0.85%)
Hariyama(7.89%)
Magmortar(11.10%)
Rhydon(7.63%)
Kingler(0.66%)
Misdreavus(0.77%)

Total Usage:28.9%
By ThunderingTornadus

 

[marilli]

Team GodStache featuring dark horse: Probopass
Probopass | 1.37798%
Garbodor | 10.03168%
Kangaskhan | 5.73705%
Zangoose | 6.66569%
Gourgeist-Super | 2.27782%
Sandslash | 8.30335%

Total usage percentage: 34.4%
2 A ranked mons

I'll probably end up making changes to Sandslash and Gourgeist. I'll update here as soon as I change something.

I'm assuming discussion of the other people's Dark Horse projects are encouraged, but no one has done it yet so I just decided to jump in as an example.

Cool team there! My main problem I see with the team is that it literally gets manhandled by Archeops. At least you have Supergeist in an attempt to check Normals, and Supergeist is another really underrated threat, but currently your team is 6-0ed by standard offensive Archeops. It outspeeds and 1v1s majority of your team, gets perfect coverage, and resists / is immune to your key attacking moves, in Normal / Ground types. This is the most awkward thing for me about using Probopass, ever. You're automatically weak to Flying- and Normal-types unless you stick in another Rock-type or something like that. Or you put in a ghost type and you're weak to opposing Kangaskhan and Archeops. Or you go without a second normal resist by going on the offensive, but you get destroyed by Arch / Tauros because they outspeed a whole bunch of your team.

Probopass looks pretty cool, and given the rise of Psychic-types again, it seems like it puts in a fair amount of work. But using Probopass always presented me with a dilemma: either bring another member with redundant typing, or leave yourself open to a host of normals and fliers. I think it was one of the biggest challenges for me when I wanted to use Probopass, and I'm curious how you deal with it.

=)

 

[Mistrals]

Alt:Very Stoned Rodent
Pokemon:

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yw for seizures

So, I'll talk about the team in another post because this picture is actually giving me a headache lol

 

[Water Drone]

Nick: low ladder lows

hariyama 7.9 %
ludicolo 7%
marowak 1%
beheyeem 1.1%
carbink .5%
lampent .14%

combined 17.6%

 

[Disjunction]

alt: Das Junction
Dark Horse: Metang
team:
Metang (0.106%)
Hariyama (7.89%)
Tangela (1.00%)
Pyroar (11.8%)
Weezing (8.73%)
Primeape (4.96%)
Total: 34.48%

edit: hit C-rank lol

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[MFF]

I'm assuming discussion of the other people's Dark Horse projects are encouraged, but no one has done it yet so I just decided to jump in as an example.

Cool team there! My main problem I see with the team is that it literally gets manhandled by Archeops. At least you have Supergeist in an attempt to check Normals, and Supergeist is another really underrated threat, but currently your team is 6-0ed by standard offensive Archeops. It outspeeds and 1v1s majority of your team, gets perfect coverage, and resists / is immune to your key attacking moves, in Normal / Ground types. This is the most awkward thing for me about using Probopass, ever. You're automatically weak to Flying- and Normal-types unless you stick in another Rock-type or something like that. Or you put in a ghost type and you're weak to opposing Kangaskhan and Archeops. Or you go without a second normal resist by going on the offensive, but you get destroyed by Arch / Tauros because they outspeed a whole bunch of your team.

Probopass looks pretty cool, and given the rise of Psychic-types again, it seems like it puts in a fair amount of work. But using Probopass always presented me with a dilemma: either bring another member with redundant typing, or leave yourself open to a host of normals and fliers. I think it was one of the biggest challenges for me when I wanted to use Probopass, and I'm curious how you deal with it.

=)

Well I can't deny that Archeops poops on the entire team here, but building a team whit only 2 A rank mons was kind of hard for me since I couldn't add a Quagsire after adding both Kanga and Garb. After that was clear, I basically made the choice between getting wrecked by a mon that hates rocks or get wrecked by spikes (chose the first one). I was thinking about changing Slash to something that would fit better (maybe Stone Edge over Knock Off/Swords Dance would even be good) but since I'm a terrible teambuilder, I have no clue what that something might be.

About the Probopass being awkward type wise, I have to agree there as well. The thing is that it does force you to bring something that can check offensive normal types that bring EQ or a Fighting move but I don't really see the problem in that. Probo does an amazing job by just coming in on Psychic and flying (bar offensive Archeops) types or even defensive mons that try to wear down their opponent with Leech Seed, Toxic or Will-O and either forcing them out or taking another hit and swap to another teammate. Probo does take a lot of scouting and gambles from time to time though, and now I'm mostly referring to Jynx. Probo can perfectly deal with a boosting set without focus blast but I probably don't have to mention what happens if the opposing Jynx does carry Focus Blast.

Also I just can't stop looking at that mustache, don't judge me (PRAISE GODSTACHE).

PS: I believe discussing stuff is why we post it no? :p

 

[MFF]

Team:

Dark Horse: half the team Diglett
Diglett | 0.01530%
Cryogonal | 4.81098%
Duosion | 0.27898%
Quagsire | 8.14653%
Combusken | (Idk, just dropped--assume 0%?)
Granbull | 8.70735%

Total team usage: 21.95915%

Alt Name: nousageatall

Sorry to say, but you're not allowed to use mons that just dropped :x

 

[lolbro]

Sorry to say, but you're not allowed to use mons that just dropped :x

some literally told me that in my first battle, came here to change that.

 

[Shaneghoul]

alt: dark chatot
dark horse: chatot

current team:

chatot 1,7%
sawk 8,2%
torterra 2,9%
mantine 4,4%
musharna 3,4%
kanga 5,7%
sum: less then 30%

just reached c rank yaaaay....
more is coming :P

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Hate to break it to you but torterra, sawk, mushy and kanga are all A ranked mons :3

 

[mdchan]

Alt: mdchan
Dark Horse: Stoutland
Elo: 1216 (C-Rank)
Total Usage Percentage: 29.5 (rounded up)
Rank Breakdown: A-rank = 2, B-Rank = 1, C-Rank = 3
Team:
Klinklang | 7.67298%
Stoutland | 0.49484%
Cradily | 4.49457%
Sandslash | 8.30335%
Quagsire | 8.14653%
Hippopotas | 0.38366%

Notes: Replaced Whiscash with Quagsire after a losing streak. Even fully defensive Whiscash just couldn't tank physical hits as much as Quagsire could, was easily taken out by a Samurott due to not having Water Absorb, and just became death fodder when I still needed it as a check.

 

[DnB]

Hate to break it to you but torterra, sawk, mushy and kanga are all A ranked mons :3

ja tru, but the team sucked anyway ;[
will make smth new soon