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Completed Normal Gem heaven--2v2 doubles, Yarnus vs. typon

Discussion in 'ASB' started by AOPSUser, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. AOPSUser

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    This is going to be hell to ref...

    -Yarnus sends out, items.
    -typon sends out, items, orders.
    -Yarnus orders.
    -I ref.
  2. typon77

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    Actually the order is reversed. Yarnus sends out and first. Also, I specified training items in my acceptance post.
  3. Yarnus of Bethany

    Yarnus of Bethany

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    Togepi evolves into Togetic, changes Nickname to Whoosh!
    90/1/3/4/4/40 stats
    Normal/Flying type
    Gets Magical Leaf for free
    Nobody has items
  4. AOPSUser

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    Um typon? Hello?
  5. Yarnus of Bethany

    Yarnus of Bethany

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    DQ, I need the slot

    I guess I don't get to fight you.
    Well, I'll find some time.

    Nobody gets any prizes.
  6. typon77

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    I'm here wait, sorry I couldn't get online today... Or yesterday
    also all abilities

    Magneton @ Amulet Coin
    Thunderbolt (togetic)*3
    If yawn targets you, then use magic coat

    Bolderdash @ Exp Share (remember technician in calcs)
    Ancientpower -> Paleo Wave -> Ancientpower (all togetic)

    Please take back dq
  7. Yarnus of Bethany

    Yarnus of Bethany

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    Yeah, Whatever.
    Whoosh! Magical Leaf + Magical Leaf, cooldown, Flamethrower (Magneton)
    Aww! Light Screen, Solar Beam, Solar Beam+ Solar Beam,
    All target Boulderdash except Flamethrower
  8. Yarnus of Bethany

    Yarnus of Bethany

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    AOPS user, where are you?
  9. AOPSUser

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    Oh sorry, I didn't see this. Will ref this most likely tommorow.
  10. AOPSUser

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    Start of Round (open)
    Yarnus AA
    [​IMG]
    Whoosh!
    HP: 90
    EN: 90
    Other: none

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 90
    EN: 110
    Other: none

    VS

    typon77 AA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: 90
    EN: 110
    Other: none

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 90
    EN: 110
    Other: none


    Calculations (open)
    Action 1:
    Aww! used Light Screen!
    -6 Energy

    Clem used Ancientpower (Whoosh!)!
    Crit: [<=625] 9607/10000 (No)
    Raise stats: [<=1000] 8356/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (6+3+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.7=17.85
    -4 Energy

    Resistor used Thunderbolt (Whoosh!)!
    Crit: [<=625] 9557/10000 (No)
    Para: [<=1000] 253/10000 (Yes)
    Calculation: (20/3+3+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.7=18.98
    -6 Energy

    Whoosh! used Enchanted Forest (Clem)! (Magical Leaf combo)
    Full para: [<=1500] 9540/10000 (No)
    Crit: [<=625] 182/10000 (Yes)
    Calculation: (13.5+3+4*1.5-2*1.5)*1.7=29.75
    -24.5 Energy

    Action 2:
    Aww! soaked up light!

    Clem used Paleo Wave (Whoosh!)!
    Crit: [<=625] 8336/10000 (No)
    -Attack: [<=2000] 166/10000 (Yes)
    Calculation: (6+3+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.7=17.85
    -6 Energy

    Resistor used Thunderbolt (Whoosh!)!
    Crit: [<=625] 7521/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (20/3+3+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.7=18.98
    -10 Energy

    Whoosh! must recharge!

    Aww! used Solarbeam (Clem)!
    Crit: [<=625] 6520/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (12+3+3*1.5-2*1.5)*1.7=28.05
    -5 Energy

    Action 3:
    Aww! soaked up sunlight!

    Clem used Ancientpower (Whoosh!)!
    Crit: [<=625] 6775/10000 (No)
    Raise stats: [<=1000] 2822/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (6+3+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.7=17.85
    -4 Energy
    Whoosh! fainted!

    Resistor used Thunderbolt (Whoosh)!
    But there was no target!
    -14 Energy

    Aww! is still soaking up light!

    WTF is Aww! doing?

    Aww! used Solar Blast (Clem)!
    Crit: [<=625] 6398/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (27+3+3*1.5-2*1.5)*1.7=53.55
    -24.5 Energy

    Whoosh!'s paralysis degraded!

    END OF ROUND


    End of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Light Screen 3A)
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    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 90
    EN: 74
    Other: Recharge A1

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 90
    EN: 80
    Other: none


    typon77 underestimates the arena, causing Resistor to lose a valuable turn, Thunderbolting an already fainted Whoosh!. Meanwhile, the assaults on Clem bring it down and out, with -21 HP. Aww! must recharge next turn, but it has Jump Kick... Light Screen is still up.

    -Yarnus
    -typon
    -Me
  11. Yarnus of Bethany

    Yarnus of Bethany

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    cooldown, leech seed, Double Kick
    If magic coat on Leech Seed, Jump Kick and push actions forward.
  12. typon77

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    Substitute (15 HP) -> Thunder Wave -> Flash Cannon
  13. AOPSUser

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    Start of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Light Screen 3A)
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    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 90
    EN: 74
    Other: Recharge A1

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 90
    EN: 80
    Other: none


    Calculations (open)
    Action 1:
    Aww! must recharge!

    Resistor used Substitute (15 HP)!
    -12 Energy

    Action 2:
    Aww! used Leech Seed!
    -10 Energy

    Resistor used Thunder Wave!
    -7 Energy
    Aww! was paralyzed!

    Action 3:
    Resistor used Flash Cannon!
    Crit: [<=625] 3442/10000 (No)
    -Sp.Def: [<=1000] 6119/10000 (No)
    Calculation: 8+3+5*1.5-2*1.5=15.5
    -5 Energy

    Aww! used Double Kick!
    Full para: [<=2500] 4187/10000 (No)
    Crit: [<=625] 539/10000 (Yes)
    Calculation: (6+2+3+2*1.5-3*1.5)*1.7=15.55
    -4 Energy

    END OF ROUND


    End of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Light Screen 3A)
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    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 74
    EN: 60
    Other: Paralyzed (20%)

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 74
    EN: 56
    Other: none


    -typon77
    -Yarnus
    -Me
  14. typon77

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    Reflect -> Flash Cannon -> Tri Attack
    If Leech Seed is used and you don't have a Substitute up, use Magic Coat and push actions back
  15. Yarnus of Bethany

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    AOPS user, unlike In the games, Two or Multi hit moves work by adding the BP together.
    The resulting damage should be (3+3+3-)*1.7=15.3
    Another thing to note is that crits ignore low comparative stats.

    If I forgot anything, please tell me.
    Edit: thanks for telling me
    In that case it should do (3+3+3-1.5)*1.7=12.76 damage
    The reason this matters is that double hit moves go through Substitute: that is, leftover damage goes through.

    Orders: Aroma therapy, Light Screen, Safeguard
  16. typon77

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    Crits don't ignore actual stats, just stat boosts
  17. AOPSUser

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    Fixed. All that happened was 2 more damage lol.
  18. typon77

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    We both posted our actions AOPS

    Yarnus's are in the post below that
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    End of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA
    [​IMG]
    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 74
    EN: 60
    Other: Paralyzed (20%)

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 74
    EN: 56
    Other:


    Calculations (open)
    Action 1:
    Resistor used Reflect!
    -8 Energy

    Aww! used Aromatherapy!
    Full para: [<=2000] 3125/10000 (No)
    -9 Energy

    Action 2:
    Aww! used Light Screen!
    -6 Energy

    Resistor used Flash Cannon!
    Crit: [<=625] 5567/10000 (No)
    -Sp.Def: [<=1000] 7873/10000 (No)
    Calculation: 4+3+5*1.5-2*1.5=11.5
    -5 Energy

    Action 3:
    Aww! used Safeguard!
    -10 Energy

    Resistor used Tri Attack!
    Crit: [<=625] 4624/10000 (No)
    Calculation: 4+2+5*1.5-2*1.5=10.5
    -6 Energy

    END OF ROUND


    End of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Light Screen 3A, Safeguard 3R)
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    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 52
    EN: 35
    Other: 1 KOC

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 75
    EN: 37
    Other: Substitute (3 HP)


    -Yarnus
    -typon
    -Me
  20. typon77

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    You calculated the damage reduction for Light Screen wrong. Its BP/2, not BP/3
  21. Yarnus of Bethany

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    Double Kick + Jump Kick, cooldown, Jump Kick
    If protect, chill and push actions down.

    AOPS user did *2/3, but since it is 1v1 now, it should be *1/2.
  22. typon77

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    Thunder Wave -> Flash Cannon -> Tri Attack

    Deerling Jump Kick is actually not very threatening under reflect. (10/2-3)*1.5= 3 Damage... LOL
  23. AOPSUser

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    I am a true derp.

    Start of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Light Screen 3A, Safeguard 3R)
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    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 52
    EN: 35
    Other: 1 KOC

    VS

    typon77 XA (Reflect 3A)
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 74
    EN: 37
    Other: none


    Calculations (open)
    Action 1:
    Resistor used Thunder Wave!
    Ultimate derp!
    -7 Energy

    Aww! used Double Jump Kick!
    Hit: [<=9750] 6461/10000 (Yes)
    Crit (hit 1): [<=625] 2429/10000 (No)
    Crit (hit 2): [<=625] 229/10000 (Yes)
    Calculation: (11+2+3+2*1.5-3*1.5)*1.7=25.65
    -16.5 Energy

    Action 2:
    Aww! must recharge!

    Resistor used Flash Cannon!
    Crit: [<=625] 8422/10000 (No)
    -Sp.Def: [<=1000] 2216/10000 (No)
    Calculation: 4+3+5*1.5-2*1.5=11.5
    -5 Energy

    Action 3:
    Aww! used Jump Kick!
    Hit: [<=9500] 8653/10000 (Yes)
    Crit: [<=625] 9982/10000 (No)
    Calculation: (5+3+2*1.5-3*1.5)*1.7=9.35
    -7 Energy

    Resistor used Tri Attack!
    Crit: [<=625] 1393/10000 (No)
    Calculation: 4+2+5*1.5-2*1.5=10.5
    -6 Energy


    End of Round (open)
    Yarnus XA (Safeguard 2R)
    [​IMG]
    Whoosh!
    HP: -2
    EN: 65
    Other: KO

    [​IMG]
    Aww!
    HP: 30
    EN: 11
    Other: 1 KOC

    VS

    typon77 XA
    [​IMG]
    Clem
    HP: -21
    EN: 96
    Other: KO, 1 KOC

    [​IMG]
    Resistor
    HP: 39
    EN: 19
    Other: none


    Drawing closer to the inevitable typon77 win end...

    -typon
    -Yarnus
    -Me
  24. Yarnus of Bethany

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    AOPS user, unlike In the games, Two or Multi hit moves work by adding the BP together.
    The resulting damage should be (3+3+3+2+10-5-1.5)*1.7=24.65 damage. For Reflect, BAP reduction for combos caps at 5.
    The plain Jump Kick should do (10-5+2-1.5)*1.7=9.35 damage

    The reason this matters is that double hit moves go through Substitute: that is, leftover damage goes through.
    Don't forget the arena.
    /nitpicking
  25. AOPSUser

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    Oh, leftover damage goes through. Now I understand. Wait for me to re-ref.

    EDIT: Fixed. Your calculations I've found to be off, Jump Kick does (5+2*1.5-3*1.5)*1.7=3.5*1.7=5.95 damage, not 9.35. The combo also did less than you said, unless I'm missing something here.
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