Apologies. Was just using it as a power comparision. Anyway... I'm just curious... has anyone here actually whored Tornadus-T to the top of the ladder? We've used it quite extensively.. and while it is pretty freaking good, it is not infallable. For starters, we like Specs because it allows Regenerator to do what it does. With Specs and rapid spin, we can take an attack because it's defenses are good enough to take one. Life Orb kind of ruins that. Two, the power difference is noticeable. Tornadus-T doesn't NEED Rapid Spin but it is quite easily worn down with Life Orb and Stealth Rock. Also, surprise Scarfers we are really careful about because things like Garchomp, Keldeo, and Terrakion can surprise it and OHKO it. Bottom line, we feel like it is OU because it it requires some team support and you have to play it pretty carefully to let it reach its full potential. I've never had to do that with other Uber suspects. It's kind of "slap on a team and fuck shit up" with previous candidates.