but the physicaly offensive Banette gives you a suprise factor which can score you the kill on Musharna because if the see it they'll think its the suicide lead which is the only set on Smogon so they wont expect it.
It doesn't need to be used more than Swagger given it can fit on the same set easily and still be terribly annoying. T-Wave, yeah I agree Encore is way better but Swagger helps make it annoying. If you're only just Encoring a mon and not Swaggering them then it's kind of pointless as you gain no real advantage from the switch.Encore on Liepard is brutal.
Every setup sweeper in the tier has to worry about Liepard switching into their setup mon and forcing them out.
I think it should be used more than T-Wave or at least Swagger.
While Encore may be useful at stopping setup sweepers or support mons in their tracks, Liepard just doesn't have the room for it. Since Swagger is primarily what makes it the effective annoyance it is, it shouldn't be dropped in favor of Encore. If added, it should be over twave, but even then, Twave is more useful imo.Encore on Liepard is brutal.
Every setup sweeper in the tier has to worry about Liepard switching into their setup mon and forcing them out.
I think it should be used more than T-Wave or at least Swagger.
Despite being somewhat bulky, the reason slowpoke isnt heavily used is it cant do much damage in return, and base 65 defense in conjunction with low speed isnt doing it any favors. A fast Taunt will make it a liability, making more of a reason not to use it.alright so ive been looking at slowpoke thinking he might be a good physcial wall in Nu im going to put up some calcs and ask your opinions on it.(it says custom because it wont let me use slowpoke in the Honkalculator against Nu in all of the different calculators so sorry if that confuses you)
252 Atk Choice Band Braviary Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 178-210 (46.35 - 54.68%) -- 58.98% chance to 2HKO(Choice Band Braviary)
0 Atk Scraggy Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 86-104 (22.39 - 27.08%) -- possible 4HKO(Nu Bulk Up Scraggy)
252+ Atk Serperior Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 140-168 (36.45 - 43.75%) -- guaranteed 3HKO(Coil Sweeper Serperior)
252 Atk Life Orb Fraxure Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 149-177 (38.8 - 46.09%) -- guaranteed 3HKO(Dragon Dance Fraxure)
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Golurk Shadow Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 236-278 (61.45 - 72.39%) -- guaranteed 2HKO(Choice Band Golurk)
so as you can see he can take a hit or two and in the case of golurk scout and then switch out to heal some damage to and bring in something that resist is moves. Not to mention if he can get a burn with scald that would render them almost useless although scald will probably do about as much a wartortles scald
if theres others that would be great to check on i would love to do some more calcs but those are the only ones i can think of at the moment
There's really better stuff that can fit that. Tangela has much higher defense, also has useful moves such as Knock Off, also has regenerator, can use eviolite, has better everything overall and can survive everything other than Braviary easily and just Giga Drain, sleep it or seed it.alright so ive been looking at slowpoke thinking he might be a good physcial wall in Nu im going to put up some calcs and ask your opinions on it.(it says custom because it wont let me use slowpoke in the Honkalculator against Nu in all of the different calculators so sorry if that confuses you)
252 Atk Choice Band Braviary Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 178-210 (46.35 - 54.68%) -- 58.98% chance to 2HKO(Choice Band Braviary)
0 Atk Scraggy Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 86-104 (22.39 - 27.08%) -- possible 4HKO(Nu Bulk Up Scraggy)
252+ Atk Serperior Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 140-168 (36.45 - 43.75%) -- guaranteed 3HKO(Coil Sweeper Serperior)
252 Atk Life Orb Fraxure Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 149-177 (38.8 - 46.09%) -- guaranteed 3HKO(Dragon Dance Fraxure)
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Golurk Shadow Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite (custom): 236-278 (61.45 - 72.39%) -- guaranteed 2HKO(Choice Band Golurk)
so as you can see he can take a hit or two and in the case of golurk scout and then switch out to heal some damage to and bring in something that resist is moves. Not to mention if he can get a burn with scald that would render them almost useless although scald will probably do about as much a wartortles scald
if theres others that would be great to check on i would love to do some more calcs but those are the only ones i can think of at the moment
Slowpoke can't learn waterfall sadly, or else the set I made above would've had waterfall instead of Aqua tailthats a very intresting set kniteowl when i get my hands on a female slowpoke with regenerator ima gonna try that although i would use waterfall over aqua tail because of the nifty flinch rate and perfect accuracy event though it has 10 less basspower