np: Stage 3-5 - "Flashback Latias: The Year In Review" (RESPONSES DUE BY 11:59pm EST)

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Jumpman16

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So we've been taking a spin with Latias for the last year on the Standard Ladder. But for the record, this spin has had some people changing their tune on her presence in OU. So what we've decided to do is retroactively apply the experiences of those who played with and against her on the Standard Ladder and canvass their collective opinion on what they really think of her strength in OU.

Compiling the stats from the last two months, given the server change and the sheer volume of data, has taken a while, but we finally have what we need to create a pool of experienced voters to decide on Latias's tiering once and for all. Stay tuned for more details.

edit: responses are due by the end of the day, EST (11:59pm EST)
 

Aeolus

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READ THIS CAREFULLY!

Deadline to identify/ask for special permission is 1 week from today. 11:59 pm Eastern on May 2nd.

Jumpman and I have received the data we needed from Doug and have extracted the voting pool we believe is most appropriate for the 3-5 vote. You are eligible to submit a paragraph for review if the following two conditions hold true for you.

1) You are the owner of at least 1 account in LIST A below (these are the people with the highest experience ratings from the standard ladder)

2) You are NOT the owner of ANY account in both LIST B and LIST C (These lists represent the eligible voter accounts from stages 3-3 and 3-4)

If both of those hold true for you, please post here, identifying all accounts in LIST A that belong to you, in addition to pledging that you do not have any account in LIST B and LIST C. All user accounts that identify will be verified and those trying to evade the requirements will be severely disciplined. This voting pool was determined with the goal of choosing the freshest, least biased, and sufficiently experienced people possible. Jumpman and I feel that using standard ladder data accomplishes this. We also want to get the fresh perspective of the users who spent their time on the standard ladder as opposed to the suspect ladder.

We also want to emphasize that we are still accepting applications for special voting permission for 3-5 if you do not qualify under the requirements outlined above. If you wish to apply, send a PM to both Jumpman and me explaining why you should be allowed to submit a paragraph for review given the goal I outlined above of a fresh, unbiased voting pool.

Once we have culled a final list of eligible voters, we will ask that people submit paragraphs, again, to us to address the tiering of Latias. We plan to limit paragraphs to 500 words or less this time, but that should be simple since only one suspect. We will review those submissions, approve those of sufficient quality, and the hold the vote.

Also, a recent change:

[14:28:13] <&Aeolus> Jump and I have agreed on a change to the voting pool
[14:28:28] <&Aeolus> All tiering contributors will be invited to submit Latias paragraphs for review
[14:28:33] <&Aeolus> without the special permission paragraph

UPDATE - May 9th

Ok thank you to everyone for identifying and to all of our Tiering Contributors. Please submit your Latias paragraphs to both Jumpman16 and Aeolus by 11:59pm Eastern on Sunday, May 16th. The question you must address this time is very simple.

"In the context of the defined characteristics, is Latias OU or Uber? Justify your response."

Responses longer than 500 words will be rejected. Those who given reasonable justification for their choice of OU or Uber will be granted voting rights, and then the final vote will be held.

Get your response to us as soon as you are able
LIST A
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- FLO
- NIEN
.SG.
_INVERT
21GUNS.
A1S2D3
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AKARIAS
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ALDO18
ALTERNATIVE MAN
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ARIEL1470
ARNO
ARTEMIS11
ASH
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AYOARAY
AZOTH
BABYPANDA
BEASTZERO13
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BLAKE0206
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BONK
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BROODJEKEBAB
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BULBASAURSOLAR
BULLETPUNCHER
BURNINGMAN
BURNOUTS3S3
C U NEXT TUESDAY
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.
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CASCADIAN1106
CCF9UNITE
CELESTIAL BEING.
CHANCE TIME
CHARLIE BEAR
CHEWYOURFOOD
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
COZCOZCOZ
D3M1G0D
DA_AMBI
DA_MEW2KING
DA_TRUTH
DARKNEOS
DARUNIA484
DAVUD363000
DAYREN
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DEMONZERO14
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DISPOSABLE PUPPETS
DJIGNE
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ETNA
FALLENTOHELL
FATE
FATECRASHERS
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FELIPOLVO
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-FLASH-
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FRAZZLE92
FREAK94
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GARY OAK 2009
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GOLSON
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HE CHONG
HEGEMOTH
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HERMITIAN_OPERATOR
HILDEBRAND
HUEHUEHUEHUE
I HATE EVERYONE
IAMURPAPI
ICEPRINCESS
ILIKETURKEYBACON
ILOLED
IMALWAYSAWAY
INEPT
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INTO THE MOAT
ISOLATED
ITG_321
JACHAEL
JAGATRANVO
JIKOS
JMURRAY162
JTEST
JUSTINAWE
KAFEZO
KARMA-KILLER
KARUTEMO
KATE BECKINSALE
KEVIN GARRETT
KILLUH360
-KINGDRAGEZ-
KOKOLOKO
KOMEIJISATORI
KURIKID
KWOGATSUNAMI
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LEEVIS
-LEGENDARY 07-
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LOO
LORD.NIGHTMARE
LORDNEXXT
LUCALIBUR
-LUCKY-
LUKEDB
-M DRAGON-
M_DRAGON
MAGIC NEVER DIES
MAHMAH
MAJORGAMBIT
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MARIACHI
MASS
MCW01234
MINIMASTER45
--MISSINGNO--
MJ88
MMN
MOLGERA
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MRBERGERAC
MRZET
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NEWTONTHESECOND
NHANTINH
NICKBOUND
NICKM2
NIDORANMASTER
NIGHTFIRE
NIHILUS
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NYC_TEST
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OHIRA
OPJQY
ORCELOT005
P0P0KILLA1
PATHOGEN
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PICKLESWORD
PIECAKE
POETFAG
POETIC
POKEPRINCE
POOCHIEHELLHOUND
PROSNOMAN88
PTZ
PUR
QUBACA
QUIK09
R.BLACKMORE
RAIKOULOVER
RAYN ARRAN
RED-DEMON
REDFALCO24
REDSWORD
REX.
REXINATOR
REXINSIDE
RHYS DEANNO
RIDDENCE
RIKANBU
RIOS
RIPTIDE48
ROBLUCCI12
ROBOTERFABRI
ROPEGUY
ROYSATURDAY
RS4
RUB
RUNNER1
SASU
SASUKEKAGE
SASUKENF
SAUZER
SAVE LATIAS
SC9
SCARECROW91
SCORCHEDSKY
SEVEN7XENON
SHADOWEDPATH
SHARTRUCE
SHEETANSHU
SHINEGOLD
SHININGNOVA
SHINYTAILLOW
SHWAYZE
SIR_FEEBAS
SKOTE07
SKYLIGHTS
SNOWDREAM
STALIN23
STEEL DRAGON
STYLE_RBK_16
SUBZERO88
SUMSUN
SUPER MARIO BRO
SWALOTISYES
SYMPHONYX 64
SYNYSTER369
T_ZENGER
TEAM RAPE
TEAM-TESTER
TEMPEST CROSSFIRE
TESTNUT
TESTSK
THATDAMNGOOD
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THE_UNTOUCHABLE
THEFANG
-THEQUEEN
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TIMETWISTER7
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TRUEDGE
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UMM...
UNAGI
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WAW
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XCEVERS
XENOCIDEHEART
XIE419
XTREWTY
ZANARIOT
ZEPH
ZOCKULATORIX
ZXCX
LIST B

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 -ADMIRAL ACKBAR-   
 ARANDOMDUDE        
 ARC TEST3          
 BANG BANG GANGSTAH 
 BIGFOOTS           
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 BOO BELL           
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 BRAVEBRAVESIRROBIN 
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 CAPEFEATHER        
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 CORNDOG      
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 DARKNESSMALICE     
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 FREE MANAPHY.      
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 HOBO BOB           
 HOMER SIMPSON      
 HONG XIUQUAN       
 HUMBLEPRIEST       
 ---H-Y-P-H-E-N---  
 I KILLED ASMODEAN  
 IAMTHELAW          
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 KATE BECKINSALE    
 KAXTAR2            
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 TANNERS            
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 TO THE WATERLINE   
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 UBER ABUSER        
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 WHISTLE            
 XTRANUB-           
 YONDIE
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 BORNTORUN          
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 CAL07              
 CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.   
 CARTOON TIGER      
 CHAIRMANMAOZEDONG  
 COLOCORP PRESIDENT 
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 DAD.               
 DARKNESSMALICE     
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 DIAMOND SKY        
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 DORB..             
 DOUBLE SLASH       
 DRAFTBOT           
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 FLASHSTORM1        
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 FUZZNIP            
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 GOLDEN SUN         
 GOOFBALL           
 H_DRAGON           
 HAVAK              
 HAVALINA           
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 HOBO BOB           
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 JIMBO              
 KITKAT.            
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 LADY JUSTICE       
 -LD-               
 LOCKENESS          
 MARS VULTURE       
 -MICHAEL JACKSON-  
 MOOCLE             
 MSDOS              
 NIGHTMAREZ         
 NINJA.             
 NORTH  KOREA       
 OBI WAN KENOBI     
 OHHLIVIA WILDE     
 OSAKA              
 POKEMONPRINCE      
 PUR                
 QUAILY             
 QUAZI ZEAL TALE    
 REACHZERO          
 RICKY UNDERWOOD    
 RS ALT             
 SAVE LATIAS        
 SCOTT BROWN        
 SHRANG             
 SJCREW             
 SPRINKLES-         
 SPRINKLESS         
 STRONG MANAPHY     
 TESTMEHZ           
 THUNDER_MEN        
 TOASTER-TEST       
 TOWELIE SUSPECT    
 TROPHY_EYES        
 TWILIGHT PRINCESS  
 UBER ABUSER        
 UTORRENT           
 VEM PRA CA         
 WE LOVE WIRTSHOUSE 
 WHISTLEST          
 YET ANOTHER ALT    
 YONDIEASUSPECT     
 YUKI-CHAN          
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 ZORBEES
 

Kevin Garrett

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I am Kevin Garrett on List A. I scanned through the other two lists and didn't see any alts. Just to be sure I checked the Stage 3-3 and 3-4 threads to make sure I didn't post there. I should be good to go.
 

symphonyx64

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I am Symphonyx 64 and Rex. on List A. I examined both lists B and C and found zero alts that belong to me.
 
Confirming Orcelot005, Magic Never Dies and Hail to England from List A. I can't see any other accounts that belong to me on lists B and C.
 

Aeolus

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Also, a recent change:

[14:28:13] <&Aeolus> Jump and I have agreed on a change to the voting pool
[14:28:28] <&Aeolus> All tiering contributors will be invited to submit Latias paragraphs for review
[14:28:33] <&Aeolus> without the special permission paragraph
 
[14:28:13] <&Aeolus> Jump and I have agreed on a change to the voting pool
[14:28:28] <&Aeolus> All tiering contributors will be invited to submit Latias paragraphs for review
[14:28:33] <&Aeolus> without the special permission paragraph

On behalf of this recent decision, I'll confirm 'Twist of Fate' on behalf of the Tiering Contributor badge.
 

haunter

Banned deucer.
Also, a recent change:

[14:28:13] <&Aeolus> Jump and I have agreed on a change to the voting pool
[14:28:28] <&Aeolus> All tiering contributors will be invited to submit Latias paragraphs for review
[14:28:33] <&Aeolus> without the special permission paragraph
Makes perfectly sense. Confirming that I'll take part into the vote.
 
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