Official Smogon Fantasy Football Thread - 2015-16 Edition

[Del Rio]

Liking my League C team a lot. BRB pulling another stud WR corps from relative obscurity

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I'm feeling pretty happy with my teams in all of Leagues A, C, and strongs, though there's a bit more inherent risk in them than I'm usually comfortable with. Ended up building each team around a strong WR core due to drafting in the middle of the round each time, Julio/Brown+Cobb+Edelman should do wonders in the part PPR leagues. League C is the one I'm least comfortable with, my RB could end up very shallow. However if Foster comes back as a top 5 back I basically win the league, it'll be damn hard to beat Tannehill/Brown/Cobb/Foster/Gore/Olsen/K Allen in a part ppr league. Most comfortable with strongs league, took advantage of the PPR format with Bell, Green, Evans, Edelman, Spiller, Woodhead, Adams, etc, so I should be getting boatloads of points a week. Only team I see as a threat is the one with Landry, dude is insane in PPR+return yards. League A is simply a very solid team with a weakish bench. Not much injury risk so I expect to perform consistently through the year. E Manning, Julio, Cobb, Edelman, Gore, Spiller, Bennett is just really consistent in a half ppr, and with Gio Bernard available in case of injury. The biggest threat to my seasons should be injury due to stacking up on some players. Carrying two each of Cobb, Edelman, Gore, and Spiller may well end up biting me in the Ass.

On a personal note this has been by far the season I've done the most prep for and I think it's paid off in results. Did some 50+ mocks (mobile app during commute is convenient) and drafted 7 other leagues (6 for fun) prior which gave me an extremely solid feel for how I most liked my team constructions and when I could afford to take players. This was reflected in both my eyes, the eyes of other league mates, and Yahoo's ranking systems which gave me the best draft in both A and C. Looking forward to a fun and tortuous season. Go ravens!

 

[Del Rio]

other than not setting my pre-draft rankings far enough down to avoid taking DEF and K early when I never take them anywhere but last, team's not bad though... ESPN does have better pre-draft tools, can set min/max for positions and position by round. seriously though yahoo why do I have two kickers, and how do both me and Texas simultaneously have the best WR corps

For future reference if you're drafting on Yahoo, you can place all kickers and DEF on the "Do Not Draft" part of the custom rankings. Sure you won't end up with a K or DEF initially, but it's better than having multiple K/DEF auto drafted for you imo. And if you play matchups with your defenses like I do it shouldn't be too big of a deal

 

[Unlucky Desperado]

I did a mock snake on Yahoo! where i was 10th out of 14.

Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
Martavis Bryant (Pit - WR)
Davante Adams (GB - WR
Justin Forsett (Bal - RB)
C.J. Spiller (NO - RB)
Dwayne Allen (Ind - TE)
Indianapolis (Ind - DEF)
Justin Tucker (Bal - K)

Bench
Jarvis Landry (Mia - WR)
Shane Vereen (NYG - RB)
Derek Carr (Oak - QB)
James White (NE - RB)
Jared Cook (StL - TE)
Kenny Britt (StL - WR)

Did I do okay? I really like my receivers but I wasn't able to get the top RB because I was 10th.

full draft

Round 1
(1) tyler - Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB)
(2) chad - Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
(3) w - Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)
(4) Caleb - Antonio Brown (Pit - WR)
(5) Steve - Eddie Lacy (GB - RB)
(6) Amy - Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
(7) evan - Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
(8) Cesar - Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
(9) Shawn - Le'Veon Bell (Pit - RB)
(10) Unlucky - Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
(11) The Dealer - Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)
(12) ryan - Russell Wilson (Sea - QB)
(13) OCB - Matt Forte (Chi - RB)
(14) justin - Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)


Round 2
(1) justin - Demaryius Thomas (Den - WR)
(2) OCB - LeSean McCoy (Buf - RB)
(3) ryan - Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR)
(4) The Dealer - Jimmy Graham (Sea - TE)
(5) Unlucky - Justin Forsett (Bal - RB)
(6) Shawn - Jeremy Hill (Cin - RB)
(7) Cesar - Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
(8) evan - DeMarco Murray (Phi - RB)
(9) Amy - Mark Ingram (NO - RB)
(10) Steve - C.J. Anderson (Den - RB)
(11) Caleb - Ameer Abdullah (Det - RB)
(12) w - Frank Gore (Ind - RB)
(13) chad - Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
(14) tyler - A.J. Green (Cin - WR)


Round 3
(1) tyler - Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR)
(2) chad - Mike Evans (TB - WR)
(3) w - T.Y. Hilton (Ind - WR)
(4) Caleb - Lamar Miller (Mia - RB)
(5) Steve - Melvin Gordon (SD - RB)
(6) Amy - Jordan Matthews (Phi - WR)
(7) evan - Peyton Manning (Den - QB)
(8) Cesar - Alfred Morris (Was - RB)
(9) Shawn - DeAndre Hopkins (Hou - WR)
(10) Unlucky - Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
(11) The Dealer - Drew Brees (NO - QB)
(12) ryan - Latavius Murray (Oak - RB)
(13) OCB - Emmanuel Sanders (Den - WR)
(14) justin - Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)


Round 4
(1) justin - Tony Romo (Dal - QB)
(2) OCB - Carlos Hyde (SF - RB)
(3) ryan - Greg Olsen (Car - TE)
(4) The Dealer - Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
(5) Unlucky - Martavis Bryant (Pit - WR)
(6) Shawn - Andre Johnson (Ind - WR)
(7) Cesar - Matthew Stafford (Det - QB)
(8) evan - Golden Tate (Det - WR)
(9) Amy - Seattle (Sea - DEF)
(10) Steve - Matt Ryan (Atl - QB)
(11) Caleb - Travis Kelce (KC - TE)
(12) w - Jeremy Maclin (KC - WR)
(13) chad - Andre Ellington (Ari - RB)
(14) tyler - Tom Brady (NE - QB)


Round 5
(1) tyler - Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
(2) chad - Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
(3) w - Coby Fleener (Ind - TE)
(4) Caleb - DeSean Jackson (Was - WR)
(5) Steve - Sammy Watkins (Buf - WR)
(6) Amy - Amari Cooper (Oak - WR)
(7) evan - Todd Gurley (StL - RB)
(8) Cesar - Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
(9) Shawn - Brandon Marshall (NYJ - WR)
(10) Unlucky - C.J. Spiller (NO - RB)
(11) The Dealer - Houston (Hou - DEF)
(12) ryan - Keenan Allen (SD - WR)
(13) OCB - Cam Newton (Car - QB)
(14) justin - Jonathan Stewart (Car - RB)


Round 6
(1) justin - Joseph Randle (Dal - RB)
(2) OCB - Kelvin Benjamin (Car - WR)
(3) ryan - Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
(4) The Dealer - Alfred Blue (Hou - RB)
(5) Unlucky - Davante Adams (GB - WR)
(6) Shawn - Martellus Bennett (Chi - TE)
(7) Cesar - Julius Thomas (Jax - TE)
(8) evan - Buffalo (Buf - DEF)
(9) Amy - Delanie Walker (Ten - TE)
(10) Steve - Victor Cruz (NYG - WR)
(11) Caleb - Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)
(12) w - Roddy White (Atl - WR)
(13) chad - Allen Robinson (Jax - WR)
(14) tyler - Green Bay (GB - DEF)


Round 7
(1) tyler - Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
(2) chad - Jordan Cameron (Mia - TE)
(3) w - Anquan Boldin (SF - WR)
(4) Caleb - Ryan Tannehill (Mia - QB)
(5) Steve - Michael Floyd (Ari - WR)
(6) Amy - Bishop Sankey (Ten - RB)
(7) evan - Adam Vinatieri (Ind - K)
(8) Cesar - Eric Decker (NYJ - WR)
(9) Shawn - Philip Rivers (SD - QB)
(10) Unlucky - Jarvis Landry (Mia - WR)
(11) The Dealer - Steve Smith Sr. (Bal - WR)
(12) ryan - Mike Wallace (Min - WR)
(13) OCB - Brandon LaFell (NE - WR)
(14) justin - Zach Ertz (Phi - TE)


Round 8
(1) justin - Nelson Agholor (Phi - WR)
(2) OCB - Owen Daniels (Den - TE)
(3) ryan - St. Louis (StL - DEF)
(4) The Dealer - Chris Ivory (NYJ - RB)
(5) Unlucky - Justin Tucker (Bal - K)
(6) Shawn - Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)
(7) Cesar - Carolina (Car - DEF)
(8) evan - Torrey Smith (SF - WR)
(9) Amy - Connor Barth (Den - K)
(10) Steve - Doug Martin (TB - RB)
(11) Caleb - Arizona (Ari - DEF)
(12) w - Tampa Bay (TB - DEF)
(13) chad - Rashad Jennings (NYG - RB)
(14) tyler - John Brown (Ari - WR)


Round 9
(1) tyler - Mason Crosby (GB - K)
(2) chad - Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB)
(3) w - Denard Robinson (Jax - RB)
(4) Caleb - Dan Carpenter (Buf - K)
(5) Steve - T.J. Yeldon (Jax - RB)
(6) Amy - Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
(7) evan - Eddie Royal (Chi - WR)
(8) Cesar - Dan Bailey (Dal - K)
(9) Shawn - Steven Hauschka (Sea - K)
(10) Unlucky - Shane Vereen (NYG - RB)
(11) The Dealer - Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)
(12) ryan - LeGarrette Blount (NE - RB)
(13) OCB - Pierre Garcon (Was - WR)
(14) justin - New England (NE - DEF)


Round 10
(1) justin - Matt Prater (Det - K)
(2) OCB - Colin Kaepernick (SF - QB)
(3) ryan - Tevin Coleman (Atl - RB)
(4) The Dealer - Charles Johnson (Min - WR)
(5) Unlucky - Derek Carr (Oak - QB)
(6) Shawn - Marques Colston (NO - WR)
(7) Cesar - Isaiah Crowell (Cle - RB)
(8) evan - Joique Bell (Det - RB)
(9) Amy - Marcus Mariota (Ten - QB)
(10) Steve - Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE)
(11) Caleb - Devonta Freeman (Atl - RB)
(12) w - Graham Gano (Car - K)
(13) chad - Ryan Mathews (Phi - RB)
(14) tyler - Sam Bradford (Phi - QB)


Round 11
(1) tyler - Stevie Johnson (SD - WR)
(2) chad - Kendall Wright (Ten - WR)
(3) w - Blake Bortles (Jax - QB)
(4) Caleb - Teddy Bridgewater (Min - QB)
(5) Steve - Baltimore (Bal - DEF)
(6) Amy - Rueben Randle (NYG - WR)
(7) evan - Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)
(8) Cesar - Larry Donnell (NYG - TE)
(9) Shawn - Kenny Stills (Mia - WR)
(10) Unlucky - Dwayne Allen (Ind - TE)
(11) The Dealer - Carson Palmer (Ari - QB)
(12) ryan - Jameis Winston (TB - QB)
(13) OCB - Kansas City (KC - DEF)
(14) justin - Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)


Round 12
(1) justin - Tre Mason (StL - RB)
(2) OCB - Matt Bryant (Atl - K)
(3) ryan - Terrance Williams (Dal - WR)
(4) The Dealer - David Cobb (Ten - RB)
(5) Unlucky - Indianapolis (Ind - DEF)
(6) Shawn - Jay Cutler (Chi - QB)
(7) Cesar - Robert Griffin III (Was - QB)
(8) evan - Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
(9) Amy - Darren Sproles (Phi - RB)
(10) Steve - Cody Parkey (Phi - K)
(11) Caleb - Devin Funchess (Car - WR)
(12) w - Ahmad Bradshaw (Ind - RB)
(13) chad - San Francisco (SF - DEF)
(14) tyler - Reggie Bush (SF - RB)


Round 13
(1) tyler - Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
(2) chad - Marvin Jones (Cin - WR)
(3) w - Allen Hurns (Jax - WR)
(4) Caleb - Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TB - TE)
(5) Steve - Jordan Reed (Was - TE)
(6) Amy - New York (NYG - DEF)
(7) evan - Percy Harvin (Buf - WR)
(8) Cesar - Cincinnati (Cin - DEF)
(9) Shawn - Danny Woodhead (SD - RB)
(10) Unlucky - James White (NE - RB)
(11) The Dealer - Brian Quick (StL - WR)
(12) ryan - Phil Dawson (SF - K)
(13) OCB - DeVante Parker (Mia - WR)
(14) justin - Breshad Perriman (Bal - WR)


Round 14
(1) justin - Alex Smith (KC - QB)
(2) OCB - Josh Hill (NO - TE)
(3) ryan - Duke Johnson Jr. (Cle - RB)
(4) The Dealer - Ladarius Green (SD - TE)
(5) Unlucky - Jared Cook (StL - TE)
(6) Shawn - Charles Clay (Buf - TE)
(7) Cesar - Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
(8) evan - Detroit (Det - DEF)
(9) Amy - Heath Miller (Pit - TE)
(10) Steve - Donte Moncrief (Ind - WR)
(11) Caleb - Michael Crabtree (Oak - WR)
(12) w - Mohamed Sanu (Cin - WR)
(13) chad - Darren McFadden (Dal - RB)
(14) tyler - Nick Foles (StL - QB)


Round 15
(1) tyler - Geno Smith (NYJ - QB)
(2) chad - Josh Brown (NYG - K)
(3) w - Steven Jackson (Atl - RB)
(4) Caleb - Nick Folk (NYJ - K)
(5) Steve - Dwayne Bowe (Cle - WR)
(6) Amy - Charles Sims (TB - RB)
(7) evan - Randy Bullock (Hou - K)
(8) Cesar - Wes Welker (Den - WR)
(9) Shawn - Shaun Suisham (Pit - K)
(10) Unlucky - Kenny Britt (StL - WR)
(11) The Dealer - Caleb Sturgis (Mia - K)
(12) ryan - Roy Helu Jr. (Oak - RB)
(13) OCB - Miami (Mia - DEF)
(14) justin - Cleveland (Cle - DEF)

 

[fatty]

yo are there any league spots available still? sorry i know im late to the party but definitely would like to be a part of a smog league this year.

 

[Milos]

yo are there any league spots available still? sorry i know im late to the party but definitely would like to be a part of a smog league this year.

yes, we have ONE spot left in league D. pm me your email if you are really serious about joining

 

[Deschain]

drafted in the middle, which sucks.

pretty decent i guess.

this is a .5ppr keeper league, where you get to keep 3 players, but you lose a draft pick 3 rounds ahead of where you picked them (can't keep 1st or 2nd rounders).

this is the first year of the league.

Woodhead was an accidental pick when the browser crashed.

 

[Del Rio]

drafted in the middle, which sucks.

pretty decent i guess.

this is a .5ppr keeper league, where you get to keep 3 players, but you lose a draft pick 3 rounds ahead of where you picked them (can't keep 1st or 2nd rounders).

this is the first year of the league.

Woodhead was an accidental pick when the browser crashed.

Great for a 12 teamer but still pretty good for a 10 teamer. Start Ivory and Brown in your flex.

You're gonna love that Woodhead "accident"

 

[Deschain]

Great for a 12 teamer but still pretty good for a 10 teamer. Start Ivory and Brown in your flex.

You're gonna love that Woodhead "accident"

10 teamer, and the teams are actually all pretty balanced, so it should be a fun league.

i like Woodhead, i had him on my player list to get later on, but as i was rearranging the order the browser crashed.

RD9 is a bit high for Woodhead.

EDIT: here's the whole draft if anyone is curious:

Hide

Round: 1
(1) Jacksonville Faguars - Le'Veon Bell RB
(2) Team Basalla - Adrian Peterson RB
(3) Makin' it Wayne - Eddie Lacy RB
(4) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Jamaal Charles RB
** (5) Piss Calvins - Rob Gronkowski TE
(6) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Antonio Brown WR
(7) Team Millner - Marshawn Lynch RB
(8) King Julius - C.J. Anderson RB
(9) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Dez Bryant WR
(10) God Hates Jags - Odell Beckham Jr. WR

Round: 2
(11) God Hates Jags - Demaryius Thomas WR
(12) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Julio Jones WR
(13) King Julius - Calvin Johnson WR
(14) Team Millner - Matt Forte RB
(15) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Andrew Luck QB
** (16) Piss Calvins - Jeremy Hill RB
(17) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeMarco Murray RB
(18) Makin' it Wayne - Aaron Rodgers QB
(19) Team Basalla - Russell Wilson QB
(20) Jacksonville Faguars - T.Y. Hilton WR

Round: 3
(21) Jacksonville Faguars - Peyton Manning QB
(22) Team Basalla - A.J. Green WR
(23) Makin' it Wayne - Alshon Jeffery WR
(24) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - LeSean McCoy RB
** (25) Piss Calvins - Lamar Miller RB
(26) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Julian Edelman WR
(27) Team Millner - Randall Cobb WR
(28) King Julius - Mark Ingram RB
(29) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Justin Forsett RB
(30) God Hates Jags - Mike Evans WR

Round: 4
(31) God Hates Jags - Alfred Morris RB
(32) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Brandin Cooks WR
(33) King Julius - Jimmy Graham TE
(34) Team Millner - Emmanuel Sanders WR
(35) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Jarvis Landry WR
** (36) Piss Calvins - Jordan Matthews WR
(37) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeAndre Hopkins WR
(38) Makin' it Wayne - Carlos Hyde RB
(39) Team Basalla - Melvin Gordon RB
(40) Jacksonville Faguars - Golden Tate WR

Round: 5
(41) Jacksonville Faguars - Andre Ellington RB
(42) Team Basalla - Keenan Allen WR
(43) Makin' it Wayne - Amari Cooper WR
(44) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Jonathan Stewart RB
** (45) Piss Calvins - Jeremy Maclin WR
(46) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Seahawks D/ST D/ST
(47) Team Millner - Frank Gore RB
(48) King Julius - Latavius Murray RB
(49) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - T.J. Yeldon RB
(50) God Hates Jags - Ameer Abdullah RB

Round: 6
(51) God Hates Jags - Davante Adams WR
(52) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Greg Olsen TE
(53) King Julius - Vincent Jackson WR
(54) Team Millner - Travis Kelce TE
(55) Balmer Pink Flamingos - C.J. Spiller RB
** (56) Piss Calvins - Brandon Marshall WR
(57) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeSean Jackson WR
(58) Makin' it Wayne - Todd Gurley RB
(59) Team Basalla - Andre Johnson WR
(60) Jacksonville Faguars - Martellus Bennett TE

Round: 7
(61) Jacksonville Faguars - Sammy Watkins WR
(62) Team Basalla - Allen Robinson WR
(63) Makin' it Wayne - Giovani Bernard RB
(64) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Drew Brees QB
** (65) Piss Calvins - Mike Wallace WR
(66) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Ryan Mathews RB
(67) Team Millner - Arian Foster RB
(68) King Julius - Ben Roethlisberger QB
(69) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Matt Ryan QB
(70) God Hates Jags - Joseph Randle RB

Round: 8
(71) God Hates Jags - Joique Bell RB
(72) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Doug Martin RB
(73) King Julius - Steve Smith Sr. WR
(74) Team Millner - Nelson Agholor WR
(75) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Julius Thomas TE
** (76) Piss Calvins - Chris Ivory RB
(77) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Rashad Jennings RB
(78) Makin' it Wayne - Larry Fitzgerald WR
(79) Team Basalla - Eric Decker WR
(80) Jacksonville Faguars - Isaiah Crowell RB

Round: 9
(81) Jacksonville Faguars - Shane Vereen RB
(82) Team Basalla - Charles Johnson WR
(83) Makin' it Wayne - Delanie Walker TE
(84) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - LeGarrette Blount RB
** (85) Piss Calvins - Danny Woodhead RB
(86) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Jason Witten TE
(87) Team Millner - Martavis Bryant WR
(88) King Julius - Devonta Freeman RB
(89) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Alfred Blue RB
(90) God Hates Jags - Roddy White WR

Round: 10
(91) God Hates Jags - Jordan Cameron TE
(92) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Tre Mason RB
(93) King Julius - Michael Floyd WR
(94) Team Millner - Antonio Gates TE
(95) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tevin Coleman RB
** (96) Piss Calvins - John Brown WR
(97) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Torrey Smith WR
(98) Makin' it Wayne - Duke Johnson RB
(99) Team Basalla - Matthew Stafford QB
(100) Jacksonville Faguars - Darren Sproles RB

Round: 11
(101) Jacksonville Faguars - Brandon LaFell WR
(102) Team Basalla - Dwayne Allen TE
(103) Makin' it Wayne - Marques Colston WR
(104) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Bishop Sankey RB
** (105) Piss Calvins - Devin Funchess WR
(106) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Reggie Bush RB
(107) Team Millner - Breshad Perriman WR
(108) King Julius - Percy Harvin WR
(109) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Kendall Wright WR
(110) God Hates Jags - Anquan Boldin WR

Round: 12
(111) God Hates Jags - Tom Brady QB
(112) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - DeVante Parker WR
(113) King Julius - Eddie Royal WR
(114) Team Millner - Cam Newton QB
(115) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tyler Lockett WR
** (116) Piss Calvins - Ryan Tannehill QB
(117) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Zach Ertz TE
(118) Makin' it Wayne - Victor Cruz WR
(119) Team Basalla - Pierre Garcon WR
(120) Jacksonville Faguars - Philip Rivers QB

Round: 13
(121) Jacksonville Faguars - Malcom Floyd WR
(122) Team Basalla - Mason Crosby K
(123) Makin' it Wayne - Bills D/ST D/ST
(124) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Charles Sims RB
** (125) Piss Calvins - Brian Quick WR
(126) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Ty Montgomery WR
(127) Team Millner - Darren McFadden RB
(128) King Julius - Adam Vinatieri K
(129) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Andre Williams RB
(130) God Hates Jags - Sam Bradford QB

Round: 14
(131) God Hates Jags - Stephen Gostkowski K
(132) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Denard Robinson RB
(133) King Julius - Markus Wheaton WR
(134) Team Millner - Texans D/ST D/ST
(135) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tony Romo QB
** (136) Piss Calvins - Tyler Eifert TE
(137) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Rams D/ST D/ST
(138) Makin' it Wayne - Steven Hauschka K
(139) Team Basalla - DeAngelo Williams RB
(140) Jacksonville Faguars - Carson Palmer QB

Round: 15
(141) Jacksonville Faguars - Cody Parkey K
(142) Team Basalla - Dolphins D/ST D/ST
(143) Makin' it Wayne - Reggie Wayne WR
(144) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Cody Latimer WR
** (145) Piss Calvins - Roy Helu RB
(146) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Knile Davis RB
(147) Team Millner - Justin Tucker K
(148) King Julius - Lorenzo Taliaferro RB
(149) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Ronnie Hillman RB
(150) God Hates Jags - Fred Jackson RB

Round: 16
(151) God Hates Jags - Matt Jones RB
(152) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Jets D/ST D/ST
(153) King Julius - Jonas Gray RB
(154) Team Millner - Michael Crabtree WR
(155) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Brandon McManus K
** (156) Piss Calvins - Broncos D/ST D/ST
(157) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Donte Moncrief WR
(158) Makin' it Wayne - David Cobb RB
(159) Team Basalla - Matt Prater K
(160) Jacksonville Faguars - Jaelen Strong WR

Round: 17
(161) Jacksonville Faguars - Ravens D/ST D/ST
(162) Team Basalla - James White RB
(163) Makin' it Wayne - Doug Baldwin WR
(164) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Matt Bryant K
** (165) Piss Calvins - Jason Myers K
(166) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Eli Manning QB
(167) Team Millner - Michael Campanaro WR
(168) King Julius - Patriots D/ST D/ST
(169) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Dan Bailey K
(170) God Hates Jags - Panthers D/ST D/ST

 

[Mr.E]

I was gonna feel bad for nobody responding to Desperado but I realized he posted a mock draft anyway so who cares. (At a glance, RB is weak but not horrible and WR corps is average or better but depth suffers. Prob wouldn't be a great team but it's enough to work with, with some good management and luck.)

deschain if you keep a 3rd rounder do you lose a 0th round draft pick? Looks pretty decent, WR corps might hold you back though even as ridiculously underrated I think Maclin is (being your best WR). They're serviceable and you have two potential low-end RB1 rushers, plus Gronk, to carry you past that weakness. Ivory might be underrated too, considering he's already proven to be alright and has the backfield more to himself than he's ever had in his career, filling in for byes and being a strong Flex at any rate.

 

[Stallion]

10 teamer, and the teams are actually all pretty balanced, so it should be a fun league.

i like Woodhead, i had him on my player list to get later on, but as i was rearranging the order the browser crashed.

RD9 is a bit high for Woodhead.

EDIT: here's the whole draft if anyone is curious:

Hide

Round: 1
(1) Jacksonville Faguars - Le'Veon Bell RB
(2) Team Basalla - Adrian Peterson RB
(3) Makin' it Wayne - Eddie Lacy RB
(4) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Jamaal Charles RB
** (5) Piss Calvins - Rob Gronkowski TE
(6) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Antonio Brown WR
(7) Team Millner - Marshawn Lynch RB
(8) King Julius - C.J. Anderson RB
(9) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Dez Bryant WR
(10) God Hates Jags - Odell Beckham Jr. WR

Round: 2
(11) God Hates Jags - Demaryius Thomas WR
(12) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Julio Jones WR
(13) King Julius - Calvin Johnson WR
(14) Team Millner - Matt Forte RB
(15) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Andrew Luck QB
** (16) Piss Calvins - Jeremy Hill RB
(17) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeMarco Murray RB
(18) Makin' it Wayne - Aaron Rodgers QB
(19) Team Basalla - Russell Wilson QB
(20) Jacksonville Faguars - T.Y. Hilton WR

Round: 3
(21) Jacksonville Faguars - Peyton Manning QB
(22) Team Basalla - A.J. Green WR
(23) Makin' it Wayne - Alshon Jeffery WR
(24) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - LeSean McCoy RB
** (25) Piss Calvins - Lamar Miller RB
(26) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Julian Edelman WR
(27) Team Millner - Randall Cobb WR
(28) King Julius - Mark Ingram RB
(29) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Justin Forsett RB
(30) God Hates Jags - Mike Evans WR

Round: 4
(31) God Hates Jags - Alfred Morris RB
(32) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Brandin Cooks WR
(33) King Julius - Jimmy Graham TE
(34) Team Millner - Emmanuel Sanders WR
(35) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Jarvis Landry WR
** (36) Piss Calvins - Jordan Matthews WR
(37) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeAndre Hopkins WR
(38) Makin' it Wayne - Carlos Hyde RB
(39) Team Basalla - Melvin Gordon RB
(40) Jacksonville Faguars - Golden Tate WR

Round: 5
(41) Jacksonville Faguars - Andre Ellington RB
(42) Team Basalla - Keenan Allen WR
(43) Makin' it Wayne - Amari Cooper WR
(44) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Jonathan Stewart RB
** (45) Piss Calvins - Jeremy Maclin WR
(46) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Seahawks D/ST D/ST
(47) Team Millner - Frank Gore RB
(48) King Julius - Latavius Murray RB
(49) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - T.J. Yeldon RB
(50) God Hates Jags - Ameer Abdullah RB

Round: 6
(51) God Hates Jags - Davante Adams WR
(52) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Greg Olsen TE
(53) King Julius - Vincent Jackson WR
(54) Team Millner - Travis Kelce TE
(55) Balmer Pink Flamingos - C.J. Spiller RB
** (56) Piss Calvins - Brandon Marshall WR
(57) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - DeSean Jackson WR
(58) Makin' it Wayne - Todd Gurley RB
(59) Team Basalla - Andre Johnson WR
(60) Jacksonville Faguars - Martellus Bennett TE

Round: 7
(61) Jacksonville Faguars - Sammy Watkins WR
(62) Team Basalla - Allen Robinson WR
(63) Makin' it Wayne - Giovani Bernard RB
(64) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Drew Brees QB
** (65) Piss Calvins - Mike Wallace WR
(66) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Ryan Mathews RB
(67) Team Millner - Arian Foster RB
(68) King Julius - Ben Roethlisberger QB
(69) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Matt Ryan QB
(70) God Hates Jags - Joseph Randle RB

Round: 8
(71) God Hates Jags - Joique Bell RB
(72) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Doug Martin RB
(73) King Julius - Steve Smith Sr. WR
(74) Team Millner - Nelson Agholor WR
(75) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Julius Thomas TE
** (76) Piss Calvins - Chris Ivory RB
(77) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Rashad Jennings RB
(78) Makin' it Wayne - Larry Fitzgerald WR
(79) Team Basalla - Eric Decker WR
(80) Jacksonville Faguars - Isaiah Crowell RB

Round: 9
(81) Jacksonville Faguars - Shane Vereen RB
(82) Team Basalla - Charles Johnson WR
(83) Makin' it Wayne - Delanie Walker TE
(84) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - LeGarrette Blount RB
** (85) Piss Calvins - Danny Woodhead RB
(86) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Jason Witten TE
(87) Team Millner - Martavis Bryant WR
(88) King Julius - Devonta Freeman RB
(89) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Alfred Blue RB
(90) God Hates Jags - Roddy White WR

Round: 10
(91) God Hates Jags - Jordan Cameron TE
(92) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Tre Mason RB
(93) King Julius - Michael Floyd WR
(94) Team Millner - Antonio Gates TE
(95) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tevin Coleman RB
** (96) Piss Calvins - John Brown WR
(97) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Torrey Smith WR
(98) Makin' it Wayne - Duke Johnson RB
(99) Team Basalla - Matthew Stafford QB
(100) Jacksonville Faguars - Darren Sproles RB

Round: 11
(101) Jacksonville Faguars - Brandon LaFell WR
(102) Team Basalla - Dwayne Allen TE
(103) Makin' it Wayne - Marques Colston WR
(104) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Bishop Sankey RB
** (105) Piss Calvins - Devin Funchess WR
(106) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Reggie Bush RB
(107) Team Millner - Breshad Perriman WR
(108) King Julius - Percy Harvin WR
(109) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Kendall Wright WR
(110) God Hates Jags - Anquan Boldin WR

Round: 12
(111) God Hates Jags - Tom Brady QB
(112) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - DeVante Parker WR
(113) King Julius - Eddie Royal WR
(114) Team Millner - Cam Newton QB
(115) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tyler Lockett WR
** (116) Piss Calvins - Ryan Tannehill QB
(117) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Zach Ertz TE
(118) Makin' it Wayne - Victor Cruz WR
(119) Team Basalla - Pierre Garcon WR
(120) Jacksonville Faguars - Philip Rivers QB

Round: 13
(121) Jacksonville Faguars - Malcom Floyd WR
(122) Team Basalla - Mason Crosby K
(123) Makin' it Wayne - Bills D/ST D/ST
(124) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Charles Sims RB
** (125) Piss Calvins - Brian Quick WR
(126) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Ty Montgomery WR
(127) Team Millner - Darren McFadden RB
(128) King Julius - Adam Vinatieri K
(129) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Andre Williams RB
(130) God Hates Jags - Sam Bradford QB

Round: 14
(131) God Hates Jags - Stephen Gostkowski K
(132) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Denard Robinson RB
(133) King Julius - Markus Wheaton WR
(134) Team Millner - Texans D/ST D/ST
(135) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Tony Romo QB
** (136) Piss Calvins - Tyler Eifert TE
(137) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Rams D/ST D/ST
(138) Makin' it Wayne - Steven Hauschka K
(139) Team Basalla - DeAngelo Williams RB
(140) Jacksonville Faguars - Carson Palmer QB

Round: 15
(141) Jacksonville Faguars - Cody Parkey K
(142) Team Basalla - Dolphins D/ST D/ST
(143) Makin' it Wayne - Reggie Wayne WR
(144) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Cody Latimer WR
** (145) Piss Calvins - Roy Helu RB
(146) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Knile Davis RB
(147) Team Millner - Justin Tucker K
(148) King Julius - Lorenzo Taliaferro RB
(149) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Ronnie Hillman RB
(150) God Hates Jags - Fred Jackson RB

Round: 16
(151) God Hates Jags - Matt Jones RB
(152) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Jets D/ST D/ST
(153) King Julius - Jonas Gray RB
(154) Team Millner - Michael Crabtree WR
(155) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Brandon McManus K
** (156) Piss Calvins - Broncos D/ST D/ST
(157) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Donte Moncrief WR
(158) Makin' it Wayne - David Cobb RB
(159) Team Basalla - Matt Prater K
(160) Jacksonville Faguars - Jaelen Strong WR

Round: 17
(161) Jacksonville Faguars - Ravens D/ST D/ST
(162) Team Basalla - James White RB
(163) Makin' it Wayne - Doug Baldwin WR
(164) JAMAICAN RUDEBWOY - Matt Bryant K
** (165) Piss Calvins - Jason Myers K
(166) Balmer Pink Flamingos - Eli Manning QB
(167) Team Millner - Michael Campanaro WR
(168) King Julius - Patriots D/ST D/ST
(169) \ VOLUNTARYISTS / - Dan Bailey K
(170) God Hates Jags - Panthers D/ST D/ST

You're going to regret taking Gronk ahead of Brown in a .5 ppr.

 

[Deschain]

deschain if you keep a 3rd rounder do you lose a 0th round draft pick? Looks pretty decent, WR corps might hold you back though even as ridiculously underrated I think Maclin is (being your best WR). They're serviceable and you have two potential low-end RB1 rushers, plus Gronk, to carry you past that weakness. Ivory might be underrated too, considering he's already proven to be alright and has the backfield more to himself than he's ever had in his career, filling in for byes and being a strong Flex at any rate.

you lose your 1st round pick if you keep a 3rd rounder.

You're going to regret taking Gronk ahead of Brown in a .5 ppr.

could be the case, but TE is such a wildly barren position so i went for the week-winner at the spot. we'll see how it goes.

here's last nights draft in my standard redraft league:

made up for not drafting any Jags in the other draft. heh.

i had the 4th pick in this draft, which also sucks, but i think i did pretty alright. tried not to get too much overlap with my other team, because that makes for a less interesting season. went Manning-the-leser instead of Tannehill since i got ODB.

full draft:

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Round: 1
(1) Tim Tebowfos - Jamaal Charles RB
(2) Team D - Le'Veon Bell RB
(3) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Adrian Peterson RB
** (4) Bortles Kombat - Eddie Lacy RB
(5) : Voluntaryists : - Marshawn Lynch RB
(6) The Footballers - Antonio Brown WR
(7) Ben There Raped That - C.J. Anderson RB
(8) Team Millner - Matt Forte RB
(9) Portland River Hogs - DeMarco Murray RB
(10) Super Shoes - Demaryius Thomas WR

Round: 2
(11) Super Shoes - Jeremy Hill RB
(12) Portland River Hogs - Dez Bryant WR
(13) Team Millner - Rob Gronkowski TE
(14) Ben There Raped That - LeSean McCoy RB
(15) The Footballers - Julio Jones WR
(16) : Voluntaryists : - Mark Ingram RB
** (17) Bortles Kombat - Odell Beckham Jr. WR
(18) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Calvin Johnson WR
(19) Team D - Aaron Rodgers QB
(20) Tim Tebowfos - Andrew Luck QB

Round: 3
(21) Tim Tebowfos - Alshon Jeffery WR
(22) Team D - A.J. Green WR
(23) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Randall Cobb WR
** (24) Bortles Kombat - Lamar Miller RB
(25) : Voluntaryists : - Justin Forsett RB
(26) The Footballers - Peyton Manning QB
(27) Ben There Raped That - T.Y. Hilton WR
(28) Team Millner - Brandin Cooks WR
(29) Portland River Hogs - Mike Evans WR
(30) Super Shoes - Alfred Morris RB

Round: 4
(31) Super Shoes - DeAndre Hopkins WR
(32) Portland River Hogs - Carlos Hyde RB
(33) Team Millner - Frank Gore RB
(34) Ben There Raped That - Emmanuel Sanders WR
(35) The Footballers - Jonathan Stewart RB
(36) : Voluntaryists : - Jordan Matthews WR
** (37) Bortles Kombat - Melvin Gordon RB
(38) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Jimmy Graham TE
(39) Team D - Joique Bell RB
(40) Tim Tebowfos - Keenan Allen WR

Round: 5
(41) Tim Tebowfos - Russell Wilson QB
(42) Team D - Amari Cooper WR
(43) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - DeSean Jackson WR
** (44) Bortles Kombat - Allen Robinson WR
(45) : Voluntaryists : - Jarvis Landry WR
(46) The Footballers - Todd Gurley RB
(47) Ben There Raped That - Julian Edelman WR
(48) Team Millner - Drew Brees QB
(49) Portland River Hogs - Vincent Jackson WR
(50) Super Shoes - Davante Adams WR

Round: 6
(51) Super Shoes - Chris Ivory RB
(52) Portland River Hogs - Latavius Murray RB
(53) Team Millner - Golden Tate WR
(54) Ben There Raped That - Greg Olsen TE
(55) The Footballers - Sammy Watkins WR
(56) : Voluntaryists : - Travis Kelce TE
** (57) Bortles Kombat - Ameer Abdullah RB
(58) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Andre Ellington RB
(59) Team D - T.J. Yeldon RB
(60) Tim Tebowfos - Zach Ertz TE

Round: 7
(61) Tim Tebowfos - Rashad Jennings RB
(62) Team D - Andre Johnson WR
(63) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Joseph Randle RB
** (64) Bortles Kombat - Brandon Marshall WR
(65) : Voluntaryists : - Jeremy Maclin WR
(66) The Footballers - Ryan Mathews RB
(67) Ben There Raped That - Ben Roethlisberger QB
(68) Team Millner - Arian Foster RB
(69) Portland River Hogs - Matt Ryan QB
(70) Super Shoes - LeGarrette Blount RB

Round: 8
(71) Super Shoes - Doug Martin RB
(72) Portland River Hogs - Mike Wallace WR
(73) Team Millner - Martellus Bennett TE
(74) Ben There Raped That - Giovani Bernard RB
(75) The Footballers - Nelson Agholor WR
(76) : Voluntaryists : - Charles Johnson WR
** (77) Bortles Kombat - Jordan Cameron TE
(78) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - C.J. Spiller RB
(79) Team D - Jason Witten TE
(80) Tim Tebowfos - Marques Colston WR

Round: 9
(81) Tim Tebowfos - Bishop Sankey RB
(82) Team D - Torrey Smith WR
(83) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Isaiah Crowell RB
** (84) Bortles Kombat - Martavis Bryant WR
(85) : Voluntaryists : - Tyler Eifert TE
(86) The Footballers - Tony Romo QB
(87) Ben There Raped That - Eric Decker WR
(88) Team Millner - Larry Fitzgerald WR
(89) Portland River Hogs - Tre Mason RB
(90) Super Shoes - Steve Smith Sr. WR

Round: 10
(91) Super Shoes - Roddy White WR
(92) Portland River Hogs - Delanie Walker TE
(93) Team Millner - Kendall Wright WR
(94) Ben There Raped That - Michael Floyd WR
(95) The Footballers - Devonta Freeman RB
(96) : Voluntaryists : - John Brown WR
** (97) Bortles Kombat - Tevin Coleman RB
(98) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Shane Vereen RB
(99) Team D - Darren McFadden RB
(100) Tim Tebowfos - DeVante Parker WR

Round: 11
(101) Tim Tebowfos - Jordan Reed TE
(102) Team D - Anquan Boldin WR
(103) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Duke Johnson RB
** (104) Bortles Kombat - Eli Manning QB
(105) : Voluntaryists : - Devin Funchess WR
(106) The Footballers - Seahawks D/ST D/ST
(107) Ben There Raped That - Danny Woodhead RB
(108) Team Millner - Breshad Perriman WR
(109) Portland River Hogs - Andre Williams RB
(110) Super Shoes - Tom Brady QB

Round: 12
(111) Super Shoes - Ronnie Hillman RB
(112) Portland River Hogs - Alfred Blue RB
(113) Team Millner - Antonio Gates TE
(114) Ben There Raped That - Charles Sims RB
(115) The Footballers - Dwayne Allen TE
(116) : Voluntaryists : - Eddie Royal WR
** (117) Bortles Kombat - Denard Robinson RB
(118) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Cam Newton QB
(119) Team D - Bills D/ST D/ST
(120) Tim Tebowfos - Texans D/ST D/ST

Round: 13
(121) Tim Tebowfos - Philip Rivers QB
(122) Team D - Justin Tucker K
(123) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - David Cobb RB
** (124) Bortles Kombat - Knile Davis RB
(125) : Voluntaryists : - Pierre Garcon WR
(126) The Footballers - Stephen Gostkowski K
(127) Ben There Raped That - DeAngelo Williams RB
(128) Team Millner - Rams D/ST D/ST
(129) Portland River Hogs - Brandon LaFell WR
(130) Super Shoes - Cody Latimer WR

Round: 14
(131) Super Shoes - Larry Donnell TE
(132) Portland River Hogs - David Johnson RB
(133) Team Millner - Ryan Tannehill QB
(134) Ben There Raped That - Donte Moncrief WR
(135) The Footballers - Rueben Randle WR
(136) : Voluntaryists : - Jets D/ST D/ST
** (137) Bortles Kombat - Dolphins D/ST D/ST
(138) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Broncos D/ST D/ST
(139) Team D - Jonas Gray RB
(140) Tim Tebowfos - Adam Vinatieri K

Round: 15
(141) Tim Tebowfos - Michael Crabtree WR
(142) Team D - Lorenzo Taliaferro RB
(143) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Victor Cruz WR
** (144) Bortles Kombat - Mason Crosby K
(145) : Voluntaryists : - Steven Hauschka K
(146) The Footballers - Percy Harvin WR
(147) Ben There Raped That - Ravens D/ST D/ST
(148) Team Millner - Cody Parkey K
(149) Portland River Hogs - Cardinals D/ST D/ST
(150) Super Shoes - Panthers D/ST D/ST

Round: 16
(151) Super Shoes - Brandon McManus K
(152) Portland River Hogs - Matt Prater K
(153) Team Millner - Reggie Bush RB
(154) Ben There Raped That - Matt Bryant K
(155) The Footballers - Terrance Williams WR
(156) : Voluntaryists : - Teddy Bridgewater QB
** (157) Bortles Kombat - Julius Thomas TE
(158) Relevant NFL- Related Pun - Dan Bailey K
(159) Team D - Jerick McKinnon RB
(160) Tim Tebowfos - Branden Oliver RB

 

[LonelyNess]

Smogon League B says its draft is at 6:30 but it won't let me in the draft room???

 

[shadowpandax]

Smogon League B says its draft is at 6:30 but it won't let me in the draft room???

Yahoo sets all draft times to PST. Check back in about 2 hours.

 

[jpw234]

Pretty excited to be rolling into this draft having consumed absolutely no NFL information other than the Chiefs 4 preseason games. Based on this alone I will be drafting Jeremy Maclin in the first and the Chiefs defense in the second

 

[Del Rio]

I took a shitload more risks in this draft than normal. C'mon Bradford, Arian, and Spiller do work for me this year

 

[Stallion]

Pretty happy with both my smogon drafts (league A and league B), but I think the team that I ended up with in my real life league with friends is beyond ridiculous. There's no locks in fantasy football, but this team looks like it's a winner right off the bat (keep in mind the draft was done a month ago, 10 team league)

 

[Mr.E]

Personally I don't much like Hyde and Eli Manning is of course scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as QB1 is concerned. Then again I thought my friend's ESPN league team was ass and when I did a review post-draft, I realized I easily had one of the two best teams in the league so maybe the same is true here. It's hard to say, at least for me, without the context of everyone else's teams in the league. You are pretty strong at both RB and WR, and Bennett is at least one of the handful of non-Gronk TEs worth giving any shits about at all even if you've kinda punted at QB (which I do all the time too cuz everyone values mid-tier QBs higher than I do, even though they're like TEs). And Eli could surprise (fantasy-wise), he has before.

Pretty excited to be rolling into this draft having consumed absolutely no NFL information other than the Chiefs 4 preseason games. Based on this alone I will be drafting Jeremy Maclin in the first and the Chiefs defense in the second

Maclin is the most criminally underrated player in fantasy this year. Most sources have him pegged as a low-end WR2 that you'll probably draft around Round 6-7, ADP in the low 60's, even though he was a top ten WR last year and the only reason people can cling to with regard to potential lack of success this year is "lolalexsmiff0tds." While last year's Chiefs were a hilarious anomaly in that regard, regression to the mean is inevitable and Maclin is significantly better than any other WR the Chiefs have had since Dwayne Bowe was good five years ago. I own him in all three drafts I did this year (did the final one last night) and I'm ecstatic I was able to hold off and still get him at 57 (Round 5) in the #strongs draft. (I took him at 46 in Smogon League, forced to take him at 43 in my friend's ESPN league cuz by far best pick available IMO.)

Also while I'm at it, I may as well write up a review of Smogon's League A draft and post it here:

actually I'll stick it in a new post; rosters too so others can check it out if they want, I mean hey it's smogon league it's relatable

 

[Stallion]

Personally I don't much like Hyde and Eli Manning is of course scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as QB1 is concerned. Then again I thought my friend's ESPN league team was ass and when I did a review post-draft, I realized I easily had one of the two best teams in the league so maybe the same is true here. It's hard to say, at least for me, without the context of everyone else's teams in the league. You are pretty strong at both RB and WR, and Bennett is at least one of the handful of non-Gronk TEs worth giving any shits about at all even if you've kinda punted at QB (which I do all the time too cuz everyone values mid-tier QBs higher than I do, even though they're like TEs). And Eli could surprise (fantasy-wise), he has before.


Maclin is the most criminally underrated player in fantasy this year. Most sources have him pegged as a low-end WR2 that you'll probably draft around Round 6-7, ADP in the low 60's, even though he was a top ten WR last year and the only reason people can cling to with regard to potential lack of success this year is "lolalexsmiff0tds." While last year's Chiefs were a hilarious anomaly in that regard, regression to the mean is inevitable and Maclin is significantly better than any other WR the Chiefs have had since Dwayne Bowe was good five years ago. I own him in all three drafts I did this year (did the final one last night) and I'm ecstatic I was able to hold off and still get him at 57 (Round 5) in the #strongs draft. (I took him at 46 in Smogon League, forced to take him at 43 in my friend's ESPN league cuz by far best pick available IMO.)

Also while I'm at it, I may as well write up a review of Smogon's League A draft and post it here since it's related:

[incoming editing it in nignogs]

Agreed with the QB assessment. I just went into my FA pool and saw that Sam Bradford was unowned, the pitfalls of doing a really early draft without the benefits of preseason. Dropped Bridgewater and scooped him up, pretty stoked to have his upside as a backup - could potentially have another QB1 if things pan out (and he doesn't get struck by the injury bug, easier said than done)

 

[Mr.E]

The Grand Mr.E Smogon League A Review
Based on current rosters because season ain't started yet anyway and whatever minor transactions that occured post-draft who really cares

THE TIER LIST
[79] Industrial Justice (im the best)
[78] Adrian Beat Her Son (don't mess with Texas)
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[91] Kd24 Drafts First (kd24)
[89] Big Ass TDs (Batpig)
[92] Duston MoP (MoP)
[93] Like a Kevin Boss (zerowing)
[92] Sweet Cuppin' Cakes (dubs)
[96] Two Steaks Bastards (moot)
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[104] Punts With A C (SMALLS)
[100] Shady's Party (Stallion)
[101] JJ Dewott (WaterGoodell)
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[109] The American Dreams (tad)

The arbitrary numbers on the end are the total rankings of the non-K/DEF starters for each team based off http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/cheatsheets/half-ppr.php so you know I'm not totally pulling things out of my ass by placing myself #1. Of course, scores don't tell the whole story. After all, there can be a very small or a very large gap between each ordinal (e.g. Luck-Rodgers-Wilson comprise the top three QBs but the gap between Luck/Rodgers is much smaller than the one between Rodgers/Wilson.), K/DEF and bench depth are also minor concerns I didn't explicitly "score" and we also do return yardage in League A (25yds/pt) which benefits... basically just MoP who has Jarvis Landry.

Open hide tags for rosters and in-depth descriptions, because I am kind to my fellow posters 'round here.

Full rosters with explanations on rankings

#1 Industrial Justice (me)
[QB] Tannehill, Crapernick [RB] Miller, Stewart, Vereen, Sproles
[WR] A.Brown, Evans, Maclin, T.Williams, Randle [TE] Cameron, Davis [DST] Parkey, EAGLES
One of the most complete teams in da lee, I have few complaints on the team I hit on. Tannehill is an average QB with the potential to take the next step up. The combination of Miller + Stewart are perhaps slightly below average but solid enough and fairly reliable, being already-proven and lacking competition in their teams' respective backfields. JStew could even be elite with the Carolina backfield finally to himself. My embarrassment of riches at WR is what should really carry me though. Cameron is a boom-or-bust TE, he could put up elite numbers or get injured and put me on stream like half the league. And while K/DEF are mostly a crapshoot, it's worth mentioning Parkey was the #2 K last year and the Eagles might have the best upside for non-streaming defenses, being last year's #3 and yet adding Kiko Alonso to further improve.

#2 Adrian Beat Her Son (Texas Cloverleaf)
[QB] E.Manning, Bradford [RB] Gore, Spiller, Bernard, Blount, Sankey
[WR] J.Jones, Cobb, Edelman, Wheaton, Coleman [TE] Bennett [DST] Bryant, PANTHERS
Probably my biggest competition, Texas followed the same formula to hopeful success that I did: godlike WR corps and a slightly below-average but serviceable everything else. I just think my non-WRs are slightly better. Bennett's more of a sure bet at TE but Eli is a bottom-of-the-barrel QB1, Gore's ceiling is pretty low because he's 90 years old and Spiller is a huge question mark having to share with Ingram.

#3 Kd24 Drafts First (kd24 actually drafted 11th)
[QB] Brady, Palmer [RB] Forte, Morris, Foster, Mathews, McFadden
[WR] Beckham Jr., Allen, White, Cruz, Crabtree [TE] Graham [DST] Sturgis, PACKERS
The best of the rest, KINGLERDUDETWENTYFOUR may well have the highest ceiling of any team and his depth is unmatched. A late-round Brady pickup in the draft, since we drafted last Saturday before the news, also proved to be a boon. Forte and Morris are a reliable RB duo and while Mathews isn't likely to boom behind Murray in Philly, he's at least a decent bye week filler. But if Foster comes back strong later this season or DMac takes command of the Dallas backfield, this team could become a juggernaut. What hurts his ranking is a below-average WR3 slot, but again excellent depth as both White and Cruz are reliable scorers (if they stay healthy). Graham is also the best TE not named Gronk... but he still isn't Gronk.

#4 Big Ass TDs (Huy)
[QB] Brees, lol0tdsalexsmiff [RB] Hill, Gordon, Cobb
[WR] Thomas, Cooper, Robinson, Colston, LaFell [TE] Thomas, Allen [DST] Crosby, SEAHAWKS, LIONS
If all goes well, Huy could end up at the top but there's more uncertainty here. His WR crops has the potential to be elite but who knows how Cooper performs and can Robinson stay healthy, active and can the Jags offense step up to allow him to produce? Huy also nabbed Gordon, so he's all in on rookies here. If they do perform, he has an edge on the other top teams with the best QB of the bunch. He also picked up the Seahawks D, which is the most reliable choice for a non-streaming defense.

#5 Duston MoP (Aeroblacktyl)
[QB] Romo, Rivers [RB] Forsett, Ingram, Jennings, Crowell
[WR] D.Bryant, Adams, Landry, Funchess [TE] Walker, Daniels [DST] Bullock, DOLPHINS, CHIEFS
MoP has an all-around solid roster but he has the biggest question mark at RB thus far. Forsett is a bottom-tier RB1 with a low ceiling and while I trust Ingram based on what he did last year, Spiller could easily cut into his production. His team is pretty similar to mine and Texas, having the best WR3 and the worst QB since (not saying Romo/Rivers are bad, just Brees and Brady are better), I just think his pieces are incrementally worse.

#6 Like a Kevin Boss (makiri)
[QB] P.Manning, Bridgewater [RB] Peterson, Abdullah, Coleman
[WR] Jeffery, Matthews, Wallace, Parker, M.Jones [TE] Witten, Green [DST] Vinatieri, RAMS, NINERS
Might be better than MoP on the surface, similar team to Huy with strength at QB and a rookie RB2. Peterson's arguably the #1 overall pick. Abdullah is quite a bit more questionable, though, as he has both Gordon's and Ingram's downsides. Will he perform as a rookie and WTF Detroit's backfield situation? This team has terrible depth as well, so starters need to perform and not get injured.

#7 Sweet Cuppin' Cakes (Dubulous)
[QB] Luck, Cutler [RB] Lacy, Ellington, J.Bell, Starks, Jones
[WR] Cooks, Watkins, Fitz, T.Smith, Mi.Floyd [TE] Kelce [DST] Bailey, TEXANS
Entering the lower half of the league is when I start seeing more questionable starting rosters; these teams have clear weaknesses. Here it's WR corps, which are all low-end for their slot although depth is decent. Lacy and Ellington are a strong RB pair but the real question is can Luck carry this team, being a cut above all other QBs not named Rodgers? The upside is that all three of Cooks, Watkins and Kelce have big-time potential. This team could surprise like kd24's team. Texans were also #1 fantasy defense last year.

#8 Two Steaks Bastards (moot)
[QB] Newton, Flacco [RB] Anderson, D.Murray, Bush, Johnson Jr.
[WR] Sanders, A.Johnson, V.Jackson, Garcon, Baldwin [TE] Eifert, Watson [DST] Gostkowski, PATRIOTS
Looks a lot like the above team, unfortunately he's scraping the bottom of the QB1 barrel instead of rolling with Luck. WRs aren't fantastic either, as Sanders could be overrated and AJ85 (he's wearing 81 now) could be revitalized or have nothing left in the tank who knows. That said, Anderson and Murray could be the best backfield duo in this league and depth is excellent, as Bush will prove to be reliable at worst and possibly more while the trio of WR3 candidates are all proven. For whatever kickers are worth, Gostkowski is consistently amongst the best.

#9 Punts With A C (BiGGiE)
[QB] Rodgers, Mariota [RB] Lynch, Hyde, Yeldon, D.Johnson
[WR] Hopkins, Tate, Agholor, C.Johnson, Stills [TE] Ertz, Donnell [DST] Prater, CARDINALS
This is a more faithful recreation of said team two previous, with Rodgers instead of Luck. Lynch/Hyde will probably be marginally worse than Lacy/Ellington, however, and TE is a complete throwaway. Yeldon as RB3 is pretty sweet but the gains are undone by the WR depth.

#10 Shady's Party (Stallion)
[QB] Roflsberger, Taylor [RB] Charles, L.Murray, Gurley, Martin, Mason
[WR] Green, Decker, J.Brown, Quick [TE] Olsen, Seferian-Jenkins [DST] Walsh, RAVENS
Teams 9-11 are all pretty similar in my eyes, but I think the differences in RB and WR corps are pretty marginal and so they're ranked as such mostly based on the strength of their QBs. Charles/L.Murray are very slightly better than Lynch/Hyde (and both have a big-potential depth rookie) plus Olsen's actually a decent TE, but Rodgers is definitively better than Big Ben and Decker as a WR2 is gross.

#11 JJ Dewott (WaterBomb)
[QB] Ryan, Stafford [RB] L.Bell, McCoy, Woodhead, Davis
[WR] Hilton, D.Jackson, Boldin, M.Bryant, Wright [TE] Rudolph, Gates [DST] Tucker, JETS
Again, a very slight upgrade at starting RB albeit with a worse bench here, but Ryan is the worst starting QB amongst the past three teams. The ceiling may be highest here, however, as both Ryan/Stafford have potential for greater numbers this year, the WR corps are slightly better, and Antonio Gates could prove to be a sneaky good TE grab. He's suspended until Week 5 and older than Frank Gore but somehow he still managed to be the #2 fantasy TE last year, so who's to say he can't keep doing it once he gets back?

#12 The American Dreams (theamericandream38)
[QB] Wilson, Winston [RB] Randle, Ivory, Freeman, Sims
[WR] C.Johnson, Marshall, Smith Sr., Royal, S.Johnson [TE] Gronk, Reed [DST] Haushka, BUFFALO
And here's tad at the bottom. I think his team is unquestionably the worst, but it's not so horrible that good management and maybe one lucky break couldn't put him in the driver's seat. Wilson is one of the better QBs, WR corps has average starters with good depth. The only question is, is Gronk so awesome as to carry these hideous RBs? At present, tad's RB1 is worse than the RB2 on most of our teams and Randle is a big question mark at that. Buffalo was the #2 D last year but losing Alonso certainly doesn't help them.

 

[YankeeBoy]

Is It to late to Join??

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

As a slight addendum to MREs assessment, League A is 0.5 PPR which makes things like Edelman WR3 and Spiller RB2 rather more attractive

For my own team I like my QB combo more than MrE does, Eli should have QB10 as his absolute floor throwing to Beckham this year and Bradford was a great flier pick given how he's looked in preseason. If he can stay healthy he has top 5 QB upside which could be the boost my team needs to go to the top. Between Bernard and Spiller I have two passing down backs which should guarantee solid, if unspectacular production from what is clearly my weakest position.

 

[Stallion]

I love your WRs Mr.E but I'm super low on Stewart, I think he's absolute garbage and is going to come back and bite you in the ass. I like my RBs better than any non KD24 player but it makes me sick that I got stuck with Decker cause of autodraft, I hope that Fitzpatrick > Geno and he has a mini revival

 

[bludz]

I'm not in league A but I am interested in the analysis going on and thought I'd chime in briefly.

I would rate kd24's team the best. The top 3 remains the same, but I think he has a significant edge at QB and TE over the other two. While his WRs are weaker (and this is ppr so that is big), he does still have a true #1 in Beckham Jr. His running backs are also far better IMO as I would be fairly uncomfortable with Miller or Gore as my RB1 and his depth there is sensational especially if Foster plays games.

If anything the wr depth could drag him down but I think his squad has less risk involved in the other positions and defense is always streamable.

 

[Mr.E]

Well I did link to a half-PPR "cheatsheet," Texas, I figured that's enough notice that our league is 0.5 PPR. (And I didn't edit the hyperlink text so that's readable without clicking.) At any rate, Eli/Bradford is the worst QB combo in the league minus perhaps Newton/Flacco. From my perspective, I think Eli is nothing more than serviceable, he's been pretty consistently a low-end QB1 most of his career, but the upside is limited since he's only cracked the top five once or something? It's not like he hasn't had great WRs before and we've seen more than enough of him to expect more of the same. Bradford, much like the real game, is all potential and I'll believe it when I see it. That's why Chip Kelly traded away Foles for him, and likewise that's why Jeff Fisher traded him away for Foles. You're in the former camp, I'm in the latter. That's perfectly cool. Plus, Bennett is better than Cameron. And Yahoo! agrees with you. :) (It graded me 6th, gooby pls.)

Really, Stallion? Most opinions I've read say Stewart is sorely underrated and I'm inclined to agree. Whenever he hasn't been injured, he's been a pretty consistent producer over the years but this is the first time he's been in a workhorse position instead of timesharing with DeAngelo Williams. I think that limits his floor while allowing him a huge ceiling, while also being less risky than one of the top rookies because we already know he's good. (Or a different sort of risky anyway... injury.) As for Decker, he was an interchangable low-end WR3 last year, on my team most of the season even! I don't think that changes this year. If anything it'll gets worse because Marshall has supplanted him as the WR1 on the Jets and that offense isn't talented enough for 3-4 worthy (fantasy) starters to emerge from it, but it probably won't matter since he'll still be on the field just as often on the opposite side. Decker's a fine pick where you grabbed him... problem is that he's your WR2 and not WR3. That represents a failure earlier in the draft, probably should've taken one of the WRs available to you at that point (Allen/Landry/Marshall) and then settled for Witten/Cameron at TE if someone else took Olsen. Perhaps that's still autodraft's fault but you should have pre-ranked players up to 100 at least (which is well past Round 5-6). I autodrafted too because WB is a numbnuts.

Yeah, I'm not excited about Miller as my RB1 either but you take what the draft gives you. I mean, he's a lower-end RB1 but he's still definite starter material. He's performed decent in the past and he's not nine million years old like Gore, no real competition in the backfield for touches unlike Ingram/Spiller or the Abdullah/Bell/Riddick mess in Detroit. Objectively speaking, there's a good reason he's usually the 10th-12th RB off the board. I took him over McCoy, who has to gain my trust back after burning me last year with the #1 overall pick, and my loss was losing Jeffery for Evans which I have ranked directly beside each other anyway. (I actually have Maclin rated above them!) The three picks in front of me went Luck/Rodgers and Green, the only two QBs worth drafting early and the last second-tier WR in my rankings (above Jeffery, Evans, et al.), so my hands were tied.

As for kd, while I love his depth I think he loses more in WR than he gains on me and Texas elsewhere. Brady I don't think is a huge QB upgrade himself, as he's had an Eli Manning-esque career in fantasy (low-end QB1 with a couple more high finishes), the real benefit there is kd's awesome depth since Brady was such a late pickup. RB is incrementally better until we see Foster in midseason, since Morris is perhaps the most reliable RB2 but with little upside too, and I don't think Graham makes up for two weaker WR slots. He's good but he ain't Gronk.