-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
-
Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
Official TPCI Pokemon Tournament 2009 | Congrats to all who participated!!
- Thread starter makiri
- Start date
- Status
Hmm, I'm really unsure what to expect.. I'd imagine quite a bit of Explosion / Destiny Bond spamming, as well as moves that hit both/all Pokémon. However, I do think there'll be plenty of people there who know what they're doing - without even including us Smogon members.
I've got my train tickets now :) so I'll definitely be there, I just hope I get chosen..
I've got my train tickets now :) so I'll definitely be there, I just hope I get chosen..
I completely disagree. If anything it should be more popular. Hypnosis' accuracy is 70 in D/P so using Bronzong instead of Dusknoir becomes much more viable. By using Hypnosis Bronzong, this also makes Dark Void Smeargle more effective since Bronzong's Hypnosis can get rid of any sleep cure berries while Dark Void sleeps them. I think Trick Room is one of the best strategies, if not dominant, because most of the teams that will beat TR consistantly will lose to any other well constructed team. A goodstuff team is as good as it's going to get if you don't want to use Trick Room, because it does stand a chance at beating Trick Room, and it can beat all of the other well constructed teams like other Goodstuff teams, hail, rain, etc.
I assume the thinking behind it is that less players at the European tournaments will know what they're doing.. But if there is anyone clever and knows about EVs / IVs / real compeititve battling, they might be smart enough to use the likes of Trick Room and Hypnosis. Things like Crobat with Taunt and Hypnosis will be better here, too.
got my train tickets to london also, im guessing there be a mix of abilities. I just hope everyone who does turn up gets a chance to battle, as heard in the US events people got turned away :(. Ive got a couple of teams ready, but definately Taunt will be on my list to shut teams from setting up lol
I know quite a few people who EV/IV so we'll have quite a bit of competition at London :P.
yeah, the first 2 opponents I faced knew nothing about EVs, the third guy knew EV's and Ivs, but told me didn't bother IV Breeding. It only gets to become real competition when it enters Top 16.
Deleted User 33526
Banned deucer.
I disagree with people saying that a team built to counter TR can't counter anything else. My team can counter both TR and RD. I lost to the only goodstuff team due to 3 critical hits against me. So it is not impossible but just hard to pull off.
Might one be able to explain to me how this works?
I've seen a couple people post about prediction being really important in 2v2, and I would say that's somewhat of an overstatement. I think more than anything, team building is the most important part of 2v2. Unlike standard, it's hard to wriggle your way out of a bad situation by making good switches and moves. The main part of prediction is knowing what your opponent will do (obviously), but in doubles, even if you know what's coming, it can be hard to stop it effectively. For example, if you see a Smeargle and Dusknoir, you know what's coming next, but unless you have a lead that can stop it, it'll probably be able to hurt you even if you can "predict" your opponents next 3 moves. Same goes for some other strategies. This is where building a strong team comes in: in this case, one that can stop this combination while being prepared to defeat other common strategies while executing its own.
That's what I've concluded based on my experience, anyway.
That's what I've concluded based on my experience, anyway.
Deleted User 33526
Banned deucer.
Hey to anyone who participated in a VGC.
Do they have any type of glue on the wristbands? Because my friend wants to give me his spot if his # gets called.
Do they have any type of glue on the wristbands? Because my friend wants to give me his spot if his # gets called.
It's probably like those kinds that you get a like a carnival, they're probably just taped. I remember because I think someone tried doing that at JAA.
What is JAA?
Journey Across America, the tournament held in 2006. I think everyone was chosen, but IDK.
Since Taunt is perhaps the best way of stopping a TR team from setting up, why don't more TR teams rely on Follow Me instead of Fake Out? Granted, Fake Out is can also stop the opposing teams from setting up...but Follow Me pretty much guarantees your setup - which every TR team requires to function.
Goodstuffs is just spamming strong Pokemon and brute forcing into a win before the opponent can set-up?
TR teams involving Dusknoir and Smeargle do rely(Not really rely though, it's there more for backup against various taunters, ghosts, inner focus Pokemon, etc) on Follow Me. Smeargle carries both Fake Out and Follow Me so it can almost always make sure TR is set up. If you mean why TR teams don't use Follow Me users like Clefable or Togekiss, it's because they aren't really much of a threat under TR.
Yeah, Follow Me enables the user to setup 100 % under most circumstances, but most people just want to Fake Out since they think that if they do so, they have a chance of taking out a Sashed Pokemon, or stopping them from taunting, which are both useless with Follow Me. I used a double taunting team, though all the people I've faced have used Fake Out first, one or two using Dark Void, but never have I seen Follow Me. Maybe Taunt doesn't get affected by Follow Me, I have yet to test that out.
Sorry dude, but your friend would be doing a favor by not entering at all. The wristbands cannot be taken off, if done so, you can't participate. It's either you get in or you don't, no exceptions.
@Siddarth
Taunt is affected by follow me. If you had two taunter leads and one of your foe uses follow me, both taunts will target the follow me user.
I'll be in Paris, if someone want test battles pm me. In this battles i won't be using my team because i already have tested it. I'll be testing other teams, but all practice is welcome right?
Taunt is affected by follow me. If you had two taunter leads and one of your foe uses follow me, both taunts will target the follow me user.
I'll be in Paris, if someone want test battles pm me. In this battles i won't be using my team because i already have tested it. I'll be testing other teams, but all practice is welcome right?
Oh, yeah. Oh wait, I think I might know why Smeargle users don't use Follow Me. When they do so, and one Pokemon taunts, it cant use DarkVoid and can get countered in by Ghost Pokemon, making Endeavor useless and a priority move user take it out without having damage inflicted on itself. Not too mention they might have one of their Pokes killed on the switch-inn, if both Pokemon targetted Smeargle.
Taunt is affected by Follow Me, and it will target Smeargle if he uses it. He won't be able to use Follow Me again, but for a TR lead, he only needs to do it once.
Follow Me + Trick Room can only really be stopped by hitting Smeargle with a Multi-Hit move, which would let your taunting pokemon target Dusknoir. Another way is just letting loose with two really strong spread attacks, and hoping Dusknoir is killed by them. Both of these ways of dealing with Follow Me can usually be stopped by using Fake Out.
only real absolute solution is to have attacks hit both pokemon at once and hope for a double ko or a flinch on dusknoir/trick-room user
There are more ways to stop it, i don't want to tell you what this ways are because i don't want to reveal my team, but if you are highly interested on it, we can battle to show you this ways...
mattj
blatant Nintendo fanboy
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaCKKKKK!!!
So, I am currently EV training the last poke of the 6 I'll use for the VGC. However, it just now occurred to me that I may, in fact, have a serious problem on my hand...or not...
2 of my pokes on my team were bred from parents that were both from random people on the GTS and I got 1 white herb from there too. I don't know if they were legitimate or not!!!
I've never used a "Gameshark", "Pokesav", or whatever on my DS, or my cartridge, and I've never used the GTS on my Platinum cartridge. The parents stats and moves were all in order. All the breeding and trading took place on my Pear cartridge. Every single poke on my Platinum cartridge was caught in Platinum, or bred by me in Pearl and then traded to Platinum from 1 DS to the other.
Do I have any reason to worry about the 2 pokes that I bred whos parents were of ambiguous origin?
Do I have any reason to worry about the 1 White Herb that is of ambiguous origin?
I'm just concerned that I'll actually get to the finals and be disqualified because of 1 shifty item and 2 pokes with shifty parents?!?!?!?!?!
So, I am currently EV training the last poke of the 6 I'll use for the VGC. However, it just now occurred to me that I may, in fact, have a serious problem on my hand...or not...
2 of my pokes on my team were bred from parents that were both from random people on the GTS and I got 1 white herb from there too. I don't know if they were legitimate or not!!!
I've never used a "Gameshark", "Pokesav", or whatever on my DS, or my cartridge, and I've never used the GTS on my Platinum cartridge. The parents stats and moves were all in order. All the breeding and trading took place on my Pear cartridge. Every single poke on my Platinum cartridge was caught in Platinum, or bred by me in Pearl and then traded to Platinum from 1 DS to the other.
Do I have any reason to worry about the 2 pokes that I bred whos parents were of ambiguous origin?
Do I have any reason to worry about the 1 White Herb that is of ambiguous origin?
I'm just concerned that I'll actually get to the finals and be disqualified because of 1 shifty item and 2 pokes with shifty parents?!?!?!?!?!
- Status