Metagame ORAS LC / new moves and abilities discussion

[TheTraininator]

120 SpA Adaptability Skrelp Sludge Bomb vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Croagunk: 5-7 (21.7 - 30.4%) -- 98.1% chance to 4HKO
120 SpA Skrelp Hidden Power Fire vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Dry Skin Croagunk: 5-6 (21.7 - 26%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO

There's a difference between a weakness and just taking 1.25x damage. HP Fire has no benefit in hitting Croagunk.

Derp. Sorry, briefly forgot how powerful Skrelp's STABs are with Adaptsbility. Still, if HP Fire has a minimum of 21.7%, then that means HP Psychic isn't even a guranteed 2HKO, so not really worth running just for Croagunk imo.

 

[infamy]

Derp. Sorry, briefly forgot how powerful Skrelp's STABs are with Adaptsbility. Still, if HP Fire has a minimum of 21.7%, then that means HP Psychic isn't even a guranteed 2HKO, so not really worth running just for Croagunk imo.

120 SpA Skrelp Hidden Power Psychic vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Croagunk: 16-20 (69.5 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 20)

Actually it is. Not sure how you figured otherwise, but, unless my eyes are deceiving me, that is most definitely a guaranteed 2HKO.

 

[TheTraininator]

120 SpA Skrelp Hidden Power Psychic vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Croagunk: 16-20 (69.5 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 20)

Actually it is. Not sure how you figured otherwise, but, unless my eyes are deceiving me, that is most definitely a guaranteed 2HKO.

I'm going to stop talking now.

 

[infamy]

I'm going to stop talking now.

It's all good friend, I've done stupider things than that xD

 

[Svalkenaeres]

There is some others things that I've founded, and you can add it on the thread if u want.

-Corphish gets Razor Shell (Sympathic on switch-ins but quite useless).
-Lilia gets Brine (Useless, Earth Power is here for Ponyta, Ancient Power for Larvesta).
-Oddish gets Moonblast (Good thing, more powerful than Dazzling Gleam and it allows to hit harder Vullaby)

I trust that some things aren't be uploaded atm by PS, like Confuse Ray staryu, or maybe HJK Buneary (!).

 

[Camden]

There is some others things that I've founded, and you can add it on the thread if u want.

-Corphish gets Razor Shell (Sympathic on switch-ins but quite useless).
-Lilia gets Brine (Useless, Earth Power is here for Ponyta, Ancient Power for Larvesta).
-Oddish gets Moonblast (Good thing, more powerful than Dazzling Gleam and it allows to hit harder Vullaby)

I trust that some things aren't be uploaded atm by PS, like Confuse Ray staryu, or maybe HJK Buneary (!).

Staryu won't get Confuse Ray in LC because it's an ORAS Level-Up move only. It can't be bred onto it because it's a Genderless Pokemon. Also, Buneary doesn't get HJK, only Lopunny does. Buneary still has Jump Kick though.

Lileep using Brine would actually be interesting. Unfortunately, I feel as though it is too slow to properly abuse it.

 

[Krun]

Just throwing it out there, but Cacturne/Cacnea now learn Spiky Shield and Energy Ball naturally.

 

[The Avalanches]

Just throwing it out there, but Cacturne/Cacnea now learn Spiky Shield and Energy Ball naturally.

Cacnea doesn't get Spiky Shield and it had access to Energy Ball before ORAS.

 

[Aerow]

Updated the OP with Contrary Snivy. I also missed Tirtouga getting Zen Headbutt, shoutout to fitzy72 for finding that. :]

 

[The Quasar]

Updated the OP with Contrary Snivy. I also missed Tirtouga getting Zen Headbutt, shoutout to fitzy72 for finding that. :]

I open a new fork on SCMS with Tirtouga update. For Snivy, I think could be better wait QC process.