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Discussion in 'BW OU' started by Birkal, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. Subject 18

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    There will be a thread for suspect reqs post within a few days and you can both a screenshots there. You can post there individually such OU current first then later you can edit in the OU suspect reqs. For now I think you could post in the suspect thread for safe keeping like people did for the Landorus-I test.
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  2. Magcargo 2

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    What would be the best team to ladder in the OU suspect test?
  3. PDC

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    Something like DragMag or HO gets the job done quickly. Although they do seem to be hax magnets...
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  4. Meteorr

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    What is the preferred EV spread and moveset for a SubPunch Abomasnow?
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    Heavy offense is the best playstle by far to get the req's for the ladder. Anything else takes waaay too much time to get the number of battles to get your rev down. I get req's on the suspec ladder and it took forever with HO. I couldn't imagine doing it with stall ;.;

    I would stray away from dragmag. It can be way to predictable and susceptible to matchup.
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  6. SnowCristal!

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    My best rank on SD and Pokemon Online was done by a different stall team. It is slow... but, eccept with hax, sure...
  7. Raiza.

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    For get reqs on sd I use HO and bulky offense.
    I don't use so much stall cause it needs so much time to finish battles and after some of them it becomes annoying Instead the HO/Bulky Offense allows you to do battles faster and reaching the reqs earlier.
  8. Twin Citiez

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    Hello , i'm new in Smogon xD . I am a good strategist but I have a problem, I wanted to make a team around lucario in a Sand team but I do not. If SOMEBODY can help me ^ ^
  9. Subject 18

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    Hop on the #mentor IRC channel and you can find a mentor like myself to help you build a team. The link is in my signature.
  10. Twin Citiez

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    oh thank you for answering me so quickly, xD
  11. Yuy

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    maybe switch to sub/cm? set up on the venusaur.
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    Do I want to lead with hazard-spam or dual screens when running HO? Both are good but which is best?
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    Both are good, but hazard can help you getting vital OHKO instead of 2HKO
  14. Twin Citiez

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    yeah and the Dual Screnner it's for facilitate the movement of One of your pokemon like Espeon and Volacarona
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    what is jirachi trying to outspeed with those 20 speed EVs on it's spd set?
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    Adamant Breloom and Timid Magnezone. Outspeeding Breloom is important because it allows you to possibly paralyze Breloom before it puts Jirachi to sleep. Outspeeding Magnezone can be important if you want to try and Paraflinch it to death, thus keeping it from setting up on Jirachi.
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    Against Magnezone it lets you U-Turn out to avoid being trapped as well
  18. KantyeWest

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    Thank you guys!
  19. jyyj

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    Can someone please tell me if the voter identification thread for ou is up yet, and if so can someone link please.
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    Do you guys think weatherless stall is still a viable option nowadays? I know Rain/Sun/Sand Stall are all viable but I wanted to give weatherless another shot and hear everyone's thoughts.
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    I ran weatherless stall for almost a year in BW2 with moderate success, although recently I have added Tyranitar to that team, which makes it function much better.

    IMO weatherless stall is still plenty viable, in particular weather less stall has the advantage of running more unorthodox stall cores and team styles, as when you run rain stall for example, you tend to follow into sort of a formulatic style of team building, with 3+ Pokemon being always the same. Since these teams styles are so common, people develop ways to combat them into their teams, weatherless rarely has this problem, as you have much more variety in team building.

    On the note of sand stall, while weater is up, it is hard to really call sand stall teams focuses on sand, Hippowodon and Tyranitar are fine Pokemon on their own, filling many niches for a stall team, passive weather is pretty much just gravy for them.
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    No the voter identification thread is not up yet. It should be up within a few days. Don't fret.
  23. jyyj

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    Ok cool, thank you very much.
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    I have a mixed wallbreaking Abomasnow that has worked very effectively in the past. It has the sub punching combination on it along with some alternative options that may prove more effective than using a sub punching one depending on what exactly you need to counter.

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    Name: Abomasnow
    Item: Leftovers
    Nature: Naughty
    Ability: Snow Warning
    EVs: 108 Atk/252 Sp. Atk/148 Speed
    ~ Substitute/Ice Shard
    ~ Blizzard
    ~ Giga Drain
    ~ Focus Punch/Earthquake

    Basically, the EV investment gives you the necessary power to hit many walls extremely hard from both the physical or special side while also giving you the speed to outpace every defensive pokemon in the tier up through an uninvested Heatran. If you go with sub, then focus punch should be your last move slot, but if you chose ice shard for the priority, then you will have much more success using earthquake in the last move slot. The main sell of this set is if you can get up a sub, you not only gain the ability to use focus punch, but something on your opponents team is going to have to take a massive hit to get rid of it since you get amazing coverage in the moves that you have. After stealth rocks, a ton of common walls such as any variant of Blissey, Ferrothorn, Jellicent, Skarmory, and Celebi along with some variants of Heatran cannot take a Focus Punch plus a Blizzard or some other combination of your coverage moves in order to get rid of your sub. Also it is important to note that a Ferrothorn that isn't packing Gyro ball will can fail to break your sub with a Power Whip if it is running the Smogon standard variant. Unfortunately, Tentacruel does prove to be a problem to the Focus Punching variant, but making use of the Earthquake option instead will land you an easy two hit KO since the hail will cancel out leftovers. The biggest counter to a set like this is obviously being faster than Abomasnow (which isn't hard for most sweepers to do, but this set still outspeeds the majority of defensive pokemon) and U-turning out to break the sub and switch into an appropriate counter to take whatever attack you may go for, so you should always be on the look out for that.
  25. Dry Socks

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    can i just ask, why was landorus-i banned and why isnt it on PO?

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