Awesome! But... I did say that I was gonna throw Lefties on Suicune. Im not sure if you missed that or something. As for the Bronzong, I'm assuming it was a trick room team? otherwise Ape would have made scrap metal out of it o.o
I must have missed the leftovers on suicune, i'll make that change when i have a chance. And ape was already taken out when the zong came in (i think that was his plan lol).
Lol damn... okay, so what that tells me is that I need a way to stop people from setting up anything that makes Ape, or any of my sweepers for that matter, useless... I guess that includes Trick Room, Sandstorm (nothing I can do if the person brings in Tar or Hippo though...), and all that jazz. Any suggestions?
It's not so much you need to stop setups (but that would be a good idea regardless :)), it's that you need to predict really good with this team. One thing you can do is switch Swampert's Protect with Roar for scouting purposes. Then you can decide when to send out what poke and when to save it for later. But the biggest thing is just to get a lot of matches under your belt with this team and get a good feel for what poke does good against other pokes etc.
Hmmm... Protect is really useful tho... Good way of getting free health back. But... new question. Is there a good replacement for Superpower on Scizor? Dropping his Attack and Defense and being locked into it doesn't really sit well with me. Ideas?
I do like the idea of free health and the stall with Protect, but Roar lets you scout more. I do find Protect to help me out a bit more then Roar, but Protect can leave you open if you don't have the best predictions. And Scizor could use Brick Break instead of Super Power, it's not a huge loss in power and i think it evens out after the first Super Power. So Super Power is better if you think you'll only use it once or twice in a row, but Brick Break is better for just sitting there and spamming. Hope this helped :)
Damn... that's a really big problem, cuz none of my guys can counter EVERYBODY... Every poke can set up on any one of mine... Gyarados on Suicune... Tyranitar on Gengar... All of the big names everyone knows is gonna have a field day with my team... I can't seem to think of any ways to stop them either... Ugh... I knew my team wasn't perfect, but I didn't know it would be this easy to set up on...
Well I checked my Gengar's HP and luck has it that it's neither Ice nor Fire... And the thought of rebreeding for that HP seems exceedingly, extremely, and obscenely daunting...
Well then, that won't work at all. Options left are Trick or Explosion unless you want to go custom :p
MixApe will be slower, but he'll have a tiny bit more coverage if you use him. Don't forget my suggestion of MixMence tho :)
Lol I'm assuming then you think that MixMence is the better option? Well will it work with an Adamant nature? Geez no matter what, I have to breed and breed and breed... Who knew Pokemon would be so much work -.-'
You could always see if anyone on wi-fi has what you need lol. And no, adamant will not work for the MixMence or MixApe. For Ape i would go for Naive, so that way you can change back and forth between physical based and special based somewhat freely. And for MixMence, if you want the new version of MixMence then you want Naive, but for the old version you want Rash. They'll both work well, i would try them both out on shoddy or whatever online emulator you like.
If you don't want to sacrifice the EV spread then you can always just put trick on, which will help cripple those pokes that try to set up on you :)
I'll also do those changes so i can try out the newer team. Please update your first post with changes tho :)
I'm not really sacrificing anything on Gengar, cuz it's Timid, with 31 Speed IV's. With the Scarf, it would reach 350 x 1.5, a whopping 525 Speed. That's incredible overkill, on basically anything. So I figured it wouldn't change much, taking out of Speed... cuz it means 92/4 = 23. So that's just 23 points out, so that's, at the end of it all, 327 Speed. Still quite a bit when given the Scarf boost.
Well the only thing you will be losing on is the other ScarfGars you go up against. So you're gonna get killed by them for sure. If you keep the speed EVs then at least you have a chance with the speed tie.
How about you post up both and just put that you aren't sure on which to go with so that way other people can help you decide?
Hmmm good point... I guess Trick may be the best way to go after all... And it'll give Gar a new toy to play with and to hit ppl with afterwards anyway XD
It's hard to make the decisions without trying them out to see how they work for you, since every player plays differently. :p
Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to get Trick for him... It's taking a long time cuz I have to do everything by hand... (read: BATTLE FRONTIER OVER AND OVER AND OVER) Geez it's getting madddd boring just trying to battle and battle and battle... And then I've basically decided to go with MixApe, just because I feel it would rock a little harder and hit more stuff. I mean, just looking at the moveset, it would patch up a couple of holes in my team, like a little bit more Water coverage, especially for those bulky Waters that everyone loves to use. Like you said, when Cune got +4, it took only 10% from ScarfGar's Tbolt. Maybe Ape's GKnot might do a tiny bit more, and do it a little faster? We'll just have to see.
Yea, that can be exhausting, i think you should look at this part of the forums to see if you won't need to go through all of that work:
But... If we want a MixNite/Gon, shouldn't the EV's be a little more balanced? It seems a little too Specially based. If I were to use that EV spread with a MixGon, what power would I be losing if I were to go with Earth Power over EQ? Just a thought.
