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Overused ft. BH Cup [Finals] | Won by ElMustacho

Discussion in 'Tournaments' started by Mr. Perry, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. Mr. Perry

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    Overused ft. BH Cup
    Approved by Quite Quiet


    We all know how Balanced Hackmons works, and we all know the mad potential some Pokémon have when we tweak their movesets. However, there are very few of the common "OU" Pokémon in that tier, which is completely reasonable when you have options such as Mega Rayquaza and both Primal Kyogre and Groudon to use, thus we don't see the potential some Pokémon like the Tapus and the like have as they're completely outclassed by some other Pokémon. What would happen if we were to play an "OU Balanced Hackmons" metagame by merging both banlists into one? This is what this tournament will try to find out!

    Tournament Rules:

    • All normal tournament rules apply, and you should make yourself acquainted with them. As such, there's a link to the aforementioned thread up in this post;
    • This tournament will use two banlists: that of the OverUsed tier and that of the Balanced Hackmons tier. Anything that is banned on one or another is forbidden to use in this tournament - if you use anything banned on either tier the match is automatically forfeited and it's up to your opponent to accept a rematch or not.
    • Pokémon with a BST > 580 are forbidden from use from this tournament. This does applies to Mega-Pokemon as well: you may only use Mega-Evolution whose BST is lower or equal to 580.
    • Any tier shift/ban that may happen during a round will only take place in following one;
    • All matches MUST be played in the Balanced Hackmons format;
    • Matches should happen either on Pokemon Showdown or Smogtours.

    Battle Rules:
    Format:
    Balanced Hackmons (580 BST cap) - Singles Mode - Best of One (BO1).
    OU Clauses: Species Clause, Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, OHKO Clause, Self-KO Clause, Battle Timeout, and Endless Battle Clause. Additionally, any Pokémon deemed unreleased or Uber is banned and you can have a list here.
    BH Clauses: Ability Clause, CFZ Clause, ComaTalk Clause. Additionally, any Pokémon, Ability or Move banned by the BH Council is forbidden from use; you can check them (alongside with more detailed explanations of the clauses) here.
    Additional Banlist: Kartana, Xurkitree, Chansey, and Blissey.
    Activity: I expect all matches to be done within a week or less, thus activity wins will only be granted when the lack of activity is blatant or similar cases. All matches that do not fit these criteria shall be decided by coin flipping.
    Miscellaneous: You're limited to 1 Mega Evolution per team (as per OU Rules), and keep in mind that you cannot start the match already in the Mega Evolution state, thus you cannot change the ability of a Mega Pokémon (this also applies to Pokemon forms that are activated mid-battle, mainly Ash-Greninja). However, you're not restricted to the 510 EV limit, being able to use the unrestricted EVs format that BH follows.

    Finals!

    SinisterSalamence HeadsILoseTailsYouWin vs. ElMustacho Funbot28

    There isn't a deadline, but please don't forget to battle itself (please²). I'd like to than everyone who joined, I still do like this format and I intend on hosting it again next year if God allows it, maybe with less problems as I will have the experience of hosting it before. It was a fun ride though, so it was all worth it! Good luck to both, and I hope you all have enjoyed the tournament as I have (even tho I was a sub myself, afu :[).
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2017
  2. Mr. Perry

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    Hello!
    Since this wasn't done, I privately contacted the finalists that they had until yesterday night to get the match done - as both didn't try to get their match done, they're both disqualified from the tournament.

    The defeated semi-finalists, HeadsILoseTailsYouWin and ElMustacho are now the finalists of this tournament. I'd like to request you guys to get your match done in 2 weeks time at max, if possible [none of the tier shifts/ban in effect since 3rd of August are in effect, so anything banned in a month or so from BH or OU are still valid for the finals].
    Good luck to both!
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  4. ElMustacho

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    Won gg.
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7balancedhackmons-627954999
    My two cents on this meta:
    Unpredictable beyond reason. Maybe because it hasn't been explored much, maybe because a lot of Pokemon becomes usable, can't really decide. Anyway you can't even tell if something is defensive or offensive. Swampert was running Shell Smash Galvanize and it was imposterproof due to Earth Plate Judgment, yet its stats tell us (and typing, due to single weakness in a meta where, in practice, is never exploited) it is more inclined to a defensive role.
    If I were to change something, I would remove the Uber clause that restricts Aegislash, Blaziken and whatever low BST pokemon resides there (in the actual game Blaziken is OP because it has an OP ability in the meta it resides, but its stats are kinda meh compared to say Reshiram), and the removal of the clause of one legit mega evolution per team, while keeping a look at stuff like Maudino that probably is too bulky for the meta.

    EDIT: sorry for double posting.
  5. Mr. Perry

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    Sorry for the delay, I have not been at home in the last few days. Anyway, I would like to thank you guys for the tour we've had - I had quite a bit of fun watching your replays. I feel like this is a meta that could still use some balancing but I can see some potential in this tier and if I'm around by next year I'm sure to run another edition of it.

    And last but not least, congratulations ElMustacho for your win! :]

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