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Part II of the Breeding Guide

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    PART II
    The Breeding guide

    Other parts of the guide:
    Part I: Introduction to breeding
    Part III: Emerald, Diamond and Pearl IV breeding combinations probabilities list
    Part IV: Hidden power breeding


    Table of content, Part II:

    Section One: Preparations
    1. The Magma Armor/Flame Body effect
    2. The Everstone factor a.k.a. how to breed for the desired nature
    3. Ditto – the Master Breeder
    A) The Synchronizer
    B) Catching Ditto
    4. Moveset Breeding
    5. Level 5 Stats

    Section Two: Breeding
    1. The Species of the Baby
    2. Breedability
    3. Egg groups
    4. Compatibility
    5. Breeding Routes
    6. IV Chains

    Section Three: Hatching
    1. Number of steps to hatch
    2. Hatching methods
    A) Soft reset method
    B) Running method
    C) Mass hatch method

    Credits


    SECTION ONE

    Breeding Preparations


    1. The Magma Armor/Flame Body effect (EDP)

    A nice breeding feature introduced in Emerald is an additional effect that Pokémon with the ability Magma Armor or Flame Body have during the game.

    Eggs need warmth, right? Having a Pokémon with this ability in your team will reduce the number of steps you need to walk/ride in order for the egg to hatch by roughly half. The word ‘roughly’ here will be clarified later on in Section Three of this part of the breeding guide.

    Here is a list of Pokémon that can have the ability Magma Armor and Flame Body:

    Magma Armor: Camerupt, Slugma, Magcargo
    Flame Body: Magby, Magmar, Slugma, Magcargo

    Make sure you have always one of these in your team while you breed in Emerald, Diamond or Pearl.


    Where to find Pokemon with Magma Armor/Flame Body

    Because Slugma and Magcargo both only have Magma Armor or Flame Body, we're going to work on capturing them. Remember, their out of battle effects work only in EDP, so if you get a Slugma from outside EDP, you need to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl for Magma Armor or Flame Body to have their step-to-hatch reducing effects.

    Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald: Slugma is found 10% of the time on the Fiery Path. In addition, in E, Slugma can also be found in Route 113.

    FireRed and LeafGreen: Slugma will always appear on the third basement floor of Mount Ember. If you use Rock Smash on the same floor, Magcargo appear 10% of the time.

    Diamond and Pearl: Start by heading north from the Resort Area, onto Stark Mountain. Go inside Stark Mountain itself, and walk around the first area. You've got a 35% chance of getting either Slugma or Magcargo; capture it when you see one.

    Other: In Colosseum, Roller Boy Lon of Pyrite Town has a Slugma, and in XD: Gale of Darkness, Cipher Peon Kolest in Citadark Isle has a Magcargo.


    2. The Everstone Factor (EDP)

    In EDP, if a female Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.

    To be perfectly clear, these are the four different ways to transfer a nature 50% of the time to the baby:

    1. A Male Pokémon breeding with a Female Pokémon holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Female Pokémon.
    2. A Male Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.
    3. A Female Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto. (Even if both the female Pokémon and Ditto hold Everstone, it will still be a 50% chance of the nature being transferred, and it will always be the Ditto nature that is transferred to the baby. Also, Everstone will not work if it is being held by the female Pokémon while being bred with Ditto.)
    4. A Genderless Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.

    If you breed in DP, it is possible that Everstone won´t work. This happens if you breed two Pokémon that originate from different language versions, for example an English Emerald Ditto with a Japanese Diamond Chimchar.


    Where to get the item Everstone

    Remember that Everstone’s effect in breeding works only in EDP, so be sure to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl if you find one outside of these three games.

    Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald: An Everstone can be found in Granite Cave.

    FireRed and LeafGreen: You can get an Everstone in the Pokémon Center near the Rock Tunnel.

    Diamond and Pearl: Everstones are extremely common in the Sinnoh Underground. Just keep mining.


    3. Ditto – the Master Breeder

    As should be clear from the previous section, Ditto is a very valuable Pokémon to have, since it can breed with every breedable Pokémon, and it can also transfer its nature 50% of the time even to genderless Pokémon like Staryu, if it is equipped with the Everstone item (see section about breedability).

    You might be saying, after reading all this: "Okay, let’s see if I’m understanding this correctly. I need a Ditto with a Timid Nature and a 31 IV in Speed in order to breed it with my Gastly, so that I can get a Timid Gastly with 31 Speed IV, right? But from where am I going to get such a Ditto?”

    The short answer is: you need to catch it.

    I can hear groans of disappointment, but cheer up: this is actually not very difficult to do.

    When a wild Pokémon is encountered, the IVs for that Pokémon are generated completely at random. This means that there is a 17.3% chance (about 1 in 6) that a Pokémon caught in the wild has at least one of its IV to be a perfect 31. All we need to do, then, is to catch six Ditto, each of which has a perfect IV in one of the six stats.

    However, we also need to ensure that its nature is the one we’re looking for. This can be done using a Pokémon that has the Synchronize trait (only in EDP).

    A) The Synchronizer

    In EDP, if the first Pokémon in your party has the Synchronize ability (trait), all the Pokémon encountered have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Synchronize Pokémon. The Pokémon that can have the Synchronize ability are the following:

    Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam, Mew, Natu, Xatu, Espeon, Umbreon, Ralts, Kirlia, Gardevoir.

    So first, you´ll want to get a Ralts, a Natu or an Abra. Abra has a catch rate of 200 and is very rare in Emerald (route 116 and GraniteCave), so you might want to go with Ralts or Natu. Ralts has a catch rate of 235 and can be found in Route 102, but is a bit rare. Natu can be found in the Safari Zone, is uncommon and has a catch rate of 190.

    To get your Natu, Ralts or Abra with the nature you want, there are three methods:

    1) Breed one of them until you get one with Synchronize and with the nature you want. This can get pretty time-consuming, however.

    2) If you have also access to FRLG, you can get an Abra with the right nature there easily. Just go to the Game Corner, buy 2400 or 3600 coins and get twenty or thirty Abra for 120 coins each and then check if you got the personality you wanted (if not and you don´t have more money, save before “buying” them, soft reset and try again). Transfer it to Emerald afterwards.

    3) You can get a Natu or Xatu in the Safari Zone in RSE (Emerald is preferred, since, if you're using RS, you then need to transfer the Pokemon to Emerald anyway) by using a rather subtle trick. Go to a patch of grass where you can find Natu or Xatu in the Safari Zone and put a PokéBlock in the feeder. It will draw Pokémon that like the flavour of that block, as follows:

    Spicy PokéBlocks will increase the chances of finding Lonely, Adamant, Naughty, and Brave Pokémon.
    Sour PokéBlocks will increase the chances of finding Bold, Impish, Lax, and Relaxed Pokémon.
    Dry PokéBlocks will increase the chances of finding Modest, Mild, Rash, and Quiet Pokémon.
    Bitter PokéBlocks will increase the chances of finding Calm, Gentle, Careful, and Sassy Pokémon.
    Sweet PokéBlocks will increase the chances of finding Timid, Hasty, Jolly, and Naive Pokémon.

    To create the PokéBlocks, using Cheri Berry, Chesto Berry, Pecha Berry, Rawst Berry or Aspear Berry is preferable for this case, since they create one-flavour PokéBlocks (one for each flavour listed above) and there are extremely easy to obtain and to harvest. After putting the PokéBlock with the necessary flavour, you'll have a higher chance of getting a Natu with the required trait (make sure it has the Synchronize ability too, however.)


    B) Catching Ditto

    Ditto locations

    You can catch Ditto in FRLG: it can be found on Route 13, 14 and 15, in Cerulean Cave and in the Pokémon Mansion. However, Synchronize doesn’t work here, so it’s better to do your Ditto catching in Emerald, Diamond or Pearl.

    Ditto in Emerald is quite common: it can be found in the Desert Underpass, so try to do your Ditto catching in Emerald if you have it.

    Ditto in DP is a little bit harder to catch. Once you've completed the Sinnoh Dex by having seen all the Pokémon native to Sinnoh, Professor Rowan will give you the PokéRadar. Head to Canalave City and buy 100 Super Repels (Max Repels are a ripoff of the highest order). Head east, onto Route 218. Stand in the middle of the grass without your bike and use one of the Super Repels, followed by the PokéRadar. Look for grass with yellow lines coming from it, and head directly for it. 18% of the time, a Ditto will appear in one of these patches. After you capture the Ditto, the grass will shake again, and you generally want to head for a patch that is furthest away, not on the edge of the patch, and has those same yellow lines. If you did it correctly, you will encounter another Ditto. (This is called chaining, and for more info, check here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=19695) Also, try to level up your Synchonizer to Level 35; if you run into another Pokémon, your chain will be broken, you'll have to try again.

    How to catch Ditto

    Go to the Desert Underpass (through Ruin Maniac´s house on Route 114) with your Synchronizer equipped with the item Smoke Ball as the lead Pokémon, a low-level Magikarp, a Pokémon knowing Fly and a lot of Repeat Balls (buy in Rustboro City). The Smoke Ball is there to ensure that if the Pokémon you encounter is not Ditto, you can safely run away.

    When you encounter Ditto, switch immediately for the Magikarp. The Ditto will transform to the Magikarp, and its catch rate will also change to that of the Magikarp: 255. Also, the Ditto will not be able to hurt you at all, since it will know only Splash. Now throw a Repeat Ball, and you should be able to catch it.

    Another option would be to teach return to Ralts (235 catch rate) and have it attack Ditto in the turn it transforms and throw the Repeat Ball afterwards (takes less time than a switch). If you´re sick of encountering level 35 Whismur, level up your Synchronizer to level 36-38, buy lot of Max Repels and use them. All Ditto are at level 38 to 45.

    If you’re doing this in Emerald, after catching around 15 Ditto (or a full box), fly to the Battle Frontier IV guy (see the section ‘how to discover the IVs of your Pokémon in Part I) and let him check the Ditto you just caught. Release those that don’t have a perfect IV, change your Synchronizer to breed for another nature if you like, and repeat this process as necessary.

    How many Ditto you need to catch

    It actually turns out that the average amount of Ditto you need to catch in order to get six Dittos with one perfect IV, one Ditto for every stat, is 85. You might need less than this, or more, but 85 is the average number of Dittos you'll need to catch. This is slightly less than 3 full boxes of Ditto. To get these six Dittos, all with the nature you want, you’ll need to catch twice this number, or an average of 170 Dittos. You might think that 170 Dittos are a lot, but remember that you need to do this only once (it only takes a few hours) and then always use these Ditto whenever you need to breed.


    4. Moveset Breeding

    Not only IVs and natures can be passed down to the baby, but moves as well.

    Because of this, it is very important that before actually starting to breed, the baby's moveset should be decided, since there are some moves that can´t be learned by certain Pokémon unless you breed with a particular parent. There are five types of moves that can be passed from the parents to the baby:

    1) Level Up Moves: If both parents know the same Level Up move and the baby can learn the same move by level up, the baby will be born with that move. For example, if a male Slowbro is breeding with a female Slowking and both know the Level up move Zen Headbutt, the baby Slowpoke will be born knowing Zen Headbutt.

    2) TM or HM moves: If the male parent knows a TM or HM move and the baby can learn that same TM or HM, the baby will be born with that move. Also, if a genderless parent knows a TM or HM move when it breeds with Ditto, the baby will be born with that TM or HM move as well. For example, if you want a Swampert that knows the move Ice Beam, and you don't have Ice Beam as a TM, you can breed your Swampert with a male Dewgong that knows Ice Beam.

    3) Egg moves: If the male parent knows a move which the baby can only learn as an Egg move, the baby will be born with that move. You can find a list of Egg moves that each Pokémon learns on most Pokédex (for example SmogonDex). For example, if you want a Sceptile that knows the move Leech Seed, you can breed a Sceptile with a male Venusaur knowing Leech Seed.

    4) Move Tutor moves: These moves can only be passed to the baby if they are also among the Egg moves of the baby. See point 3) above. For example, if you want a Medicham with the move Ice Punch, which is an egg move, you can breed it with a male Alakazam that learned Ice Punch from the Emerald move tutor.

    5) Volt Tackle move: When breeding for Pichu in E, if any of the parents is a Pikachu or a Raichu holding the item Light Ball, then the baby Pichu will be born knowing the move Volt Tackle.

    As you can see, Level up moves and TM or HM moves are relatively easy to breed. A slight complication can occur if you're breeding for an egg move. Sometimes, you'd need to breed for various Pokémon consecutively in order to get the egg move you need. This is called a breeding move chain.

    For example, suppose you need to breed a Larvitar with the egg move Dragon Dance. Checking all the Pokémon that can breed with Larvitar and that can learn Dragon Dance, we find two possibilies: Charmander and (in DP) Totodile. The problem, though, is that Dragon Dance is an egg move also for both Charmander and Totodile. So you first need to breed for a male baby Charmander or Totodile to get Dragon Dance, which would then be bred with your Larvitar to give him Dragon Dance. Charmander can breed with either Gyarados, Altaria or Dragonite, all of which learn Dragon Dance by level up, and Totodile can breed with Kingdra, which also learns Dragon Dance by level up. So there are two breeding chains:

    Male Gyarados/Swablu/Dratini with Dragon Dance -> Male Charmander with Dragon Dance -> Larvitar with Dragon Dance

    or (for DP):

    Male Horsea with Dragon Dance -> Male Totodile with Dragon Dance -> Larvitar with Dragon Dance

    Let’s give a second example. Suppose you need to breed a Snorunt with the egg move Spikes. Checking all the Pokémon that can breed with Snorunt and that can learn Spikes, we find that only Roselia can learn Spikes and can breed with Snorunt. The problem, though, is that Spikes is an egg move also for Roselia. So you first need to breed for a male baby Roselia to get Spikes, which would then be bred with your Snorunt to give him Spikes. Roselia can breed with Cacturne, and Cacturne can learn Spikes by Level up. So the breeding move chain is:

    Male Cacturne with Spikes -> Male Roselia with Spikes -> Snorunt with Spikes


    5. Level 5 stats

    As we have already said in Part I of this guide, it's easier to get rid of Pokémon that don´t have the IVs you want while you're breeding. For this to not be too time consuming, you can find out the Level 5 maximum stats of the baby you're going to breed before you start breeding (refer to Part I section about finding out your IVs) and write them down on a piece of paper. Now, everytime you check the IVs of a baby, you will be able to tell whether the baby is good enough for further IV checking or not by just looking at its stats and comparing them with the numbers on your paper. If the numbers do not correspond, you release that Pokémon. After a while, you´ll be able to do this without using the paper.

    To save you even more time, here is a list of all the Pokémon babies, and their maximum stats at Level 5. All the following stats assume a neutral nature.

    If the nature is boosting the stat, and the stat listed here is a two-digit number, add the first digit of that number to the number shown. If the nature is hindering the stat, first subtract one from the stat listed here, then, if the resulting number is a two-digit number, subtract further the first digit of that number from itself. To clarify:

    If a stat is less than 10, it stays the same with a beneficial nature and is decreased by 1 with a hindering nature.
    If a stat is 10, it is increased by 1 with a beneficial nature and is decreased by 1 with a hindering nature.
    If a stat is between 11 and 19, it is increased by 1 with a beneficial nature, and is decreased by 2 with a hindering nature.

    For example, if Bulbasaur is Adamant, then the maximum Attack stat is 12 (11 + the first digit of 11), and the maximum Special Attack stat is 11 (13 - 1 = 12, and since 12 is a two-digit number, 12 - 1, the first digit of 12, = 11).

    Code:
    [COLOR=black]Sinnoh#   Pokémon      HP   Attack   Defense   Sp. Attack   Sp. Defense   Speed[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]001    Bulbasaur     21     11       11          13           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]004    Charmander    20     11       10          12           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]007     Squirtle     20     11       13          11           12          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]010     Caterpie     21      9       10           8            8          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]013      Weedle      20     10        9           8            8          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]016      Pidgey      20     11       10          10           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]019     Rattata      19     12       10           9           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]021     Spearow      20     12        9           9            9          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]023      Ekans       20     12       10          10           11          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]027    Sandshrew     21     14       15           8            9          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]029     Nidoran♀     22     11       11          10           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]032     Nidoran♂     21     12       10          10           10          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]037      Vulpix      20     10       10          11           13          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]041      Zubat       20     11       10           9           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]043      Oddish      21     11       12          14           13           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]046      Paras       20     13       12          11           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]048     Venonat      22     12       11          10           12          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]050     Diglett      17     12        9          10           11          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]052      Meowth      20     11       10          10           10          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]054     Psyduck      21     11       11          13           11          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]056      Mankey      20     14       10          10           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]058    Growlithe     22     13       11          13           11          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]060     Poliwag      20     11       10          10           10          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]063       Abra       19      8        8          17           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]066      Machop      23     14       11          10           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]069    Bellsprout    21     14       10          13            9          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]072    Tentacool     20     10       10          11           16          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]074     Geodude      20     14       16           9            9           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]077      Ponyta      21     15       12          13           13          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]079     Slowpoke     25     13       13          10           10           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]081    Magnemite     19     10       13          16           12          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]083    Farfetch'd    21     13       12          12           12          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]084      Doduo       20     15       11          10           10          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]086       Seel       23     11       12          11           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]088      Grimer      24     14       11          10           11           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]090     Shellder     19     13       16          11            9          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]092      Gastly      19     10        9          16           10          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]095       Onix       20     11       22           9           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]096     Drowzee      22     11       11          10           15          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]098      Krabby      19     17       15           9            9          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]100     Voltorb      20      9       11          12           12          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]102    Exeggcute     22     10       14          12           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]104      Cubone      21     11       16          10           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]108    Lickitung     25     12       14          12           14           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]109     Koffing      20     13       16          12           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]111     Rhyhorn      24     15       16           9            9           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]113     Chansey      41      7        7          10           17          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]114     Tangela      23     12       18          16           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]115    Kangaskhan    27     16       14          10           14          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]116      Horsea      19     10       13          13            9          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]118     Goldeen      21     13       12          10           11          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]120      Staryu      19     11       12          13           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]122     Mr. Mime     20     11       13          16           18          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]123     Scyther      23     17       14          12           14          17[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]127      Pinsir      23     19       16          12           13          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]128      Tauros      24     16       16          10           13          17[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]129     Magikarp     18      7       12           8            8          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]131      Lapras      29     15       14          15           16          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]133      Eevee       22     12       11          11           13          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]137     Porygon      23     12       13          15           14          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]138     Omanyte      20     10       16          15           12          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]140      Kabuto      19     14       15          12           11          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]142    Aerodactyl    24     17       13          12           14          19[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]143     Snorlax      32     17       13          13           17           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]147     Dratini      20     12       11          11           11          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]152    Chikorita     21     11       13          11           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]155    Cyndaquil     20     11       10          12           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]158     Totodile     21     13       12          10           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]161     Sentret      20     11        9          10           11           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]163     Hoothoot     22      9        9          10           12          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]165      Ledyba      20      8        9          10           14          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]167     Spinarak     20     12       10          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]170     Chinchou     24     10       10          12           12          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]172      Pichu       18     10        8          10           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]173      Cleffa      21      9        9          11           12           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]174    Igglybuff     25      9        8          10            8           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]175      Togepi      20      8       13          10           13           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]177       Natu       20     11       11          13           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]179      Mareep      22     10       10          13           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]183      Marill      23      8       11           8           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]185    Sudowoodo     23     16       18           9           13           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]187      Hoppip      20     10       10          10           12          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]190      Aipom       22     13       12          10           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]191     Sunkern      19      9        9           9            9           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]193      Yanma       23     13       11          14           11          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]194      Wooper      22     11       11           9            9           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]198     Murkrow      22     15       10          15           10          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]200    Misdreavus    22     12       12          15           15          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]202    Wobbuffet     35      9       12           9           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]203    Girafarig     23     14       13          15           13          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]204      Pineco      21     13       15          10           10           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]206    Dunsparce     26     13       13          13           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]207      Gligar      23     14       17          10           13          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]209     Snubbull     22     14       11          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]211     Qwilfish     23     16       14          12           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]213     Shuckle      18      7       29           7           29           7[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]214    Heracross     24     19       14          10           16          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]215     Sneasel      22     16       12          10           14          18[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]216    Teddiursa     22     14       11          11           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]218      Slugma      20     10       10          13           10           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]220      Swinub      21     11       10           9            9          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]222     Corsola      22     12       15          13           15          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]223     Remoraid     20     13       10          13           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]225     Delibird     21     12       11          13           11          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]226     Mantine      23     10       13          14           20          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]227     Skarmory     23     14       20          10           13          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]228     Houndour     21     12        9          14           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]231      Phanpy      25     12       12          10           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]234     Stantler     23     16       12          15           13          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]235     Smeargle     22      8       10           8           11          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]236     Tyrogue      20     10       10          10           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]238     Smoochum     21      9        8          15           13          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]239      Elekid      21     12       10          13           12          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]240      Magby       21     14       10          13           12          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]241     Miltank      26     14       17          10           13          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]246     Larvitar     21     12       11          11           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]252     Treecko      20     11       10          13           12          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]255     Torchic      21     12       10          13           11          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]258      Mudkip      21     13       11          11           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]261    Poochyena     20     12       10           9            9          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]263    Zigzagoon     20      9       10           9           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]265     Wurmple      21     11       10           8            9           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]270      Lotad       20      9        9          10           11           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]273      Seedot      20     10       11           9            9           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]276     Taillow      20     12        9           9            9          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]278     Wingull      20      9        9          12            9          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]280      Ralts       19      9        9          11           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]283     Surskit      20      9        9          11           11          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]285    Shroomish     22     10       12          10           12          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]287     Slakoth      22     12       12          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]290     Nincada      19     11       15           9            9          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]293     Whismur      22     11        8          11            8           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]296     Makuhita     23     12        9           8            9           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]298     Azurill      21      8       10           8           10           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]299     Nosepass     19     11       20          11           15           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]300      Skitty      21     11       11          10           10          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]302     Sableye      21     14       14          13           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]304       Aron       21     13       16          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]307     Meditite     19     10       12          10           12          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]309    Electrike     20     11       10          13           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]311      Plusle      22     11       10          15           14          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]312      Minun       22     10       11          14           15          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]313     Volbeat      23     13       12          11           14          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]314     Illumise     23     11       12          13           14          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]315     Roselia      21     12       11          16           14          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]316      Gulpin      23     10       11          10           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]318     Carvanha     21     15        8          13            8          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]320     Wailmer      29     13       10          13           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]322      Numel       22     12       10          13           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]324     Torkoal      23     15       20          15           13           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]325      Spoink      22      9       10          13           14          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]327      Spinda      22     12       12          12           12          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]328     Trapinch     21     16       11          11           11           7[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]331      Cacnea      21     15       10          15           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]333      Swablu      21     10       12          10           14          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]335     Zangoose     23     18       12          12           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]336     Seviper      23     16       12          16           12          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]337     Lunatone     23     12       13          16           15          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]338     Solrock      23     16       15          12           13          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]339     Barboach     21     11       10          11           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]341     Corphish     20     14       13          11           10          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]343      Baltoy      20     10       12          10           13          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]345      Lileep      23     10       14          12           15           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]347     Anorith      21     16       11          10           11          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]349      Feebas      18      8        8           7           12          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]351     Castform     23     13       13          13           13          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]352     Kecleon      22     15       13          12           18          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]353     Shuppet      20     14       10          12            9          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]355     Duskull      18     10       15           9           15           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]357     Tropius      26     13       14          13           15          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]358     Chimecho     23     11       13          16           14          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]359      Absol       23     19       12          14           12          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]360      Wynaut      26      8       11           8           11           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]361     Snorunt      21     11       11          11           11          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]363      Spheal      23     10       11          12           11           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]366     Clamperl     20     12       15          13           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]369    Relicanth     26     15       19          11           13          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]370     Luvdisc      20      9       12          10           13          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]371      Bagon       21     14       12          10            9          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]374      Beldum      20     12       14          10           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]387     Turtwig      22     13       12          11           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]390     Chimchar     20     12       10          12           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]393      Piplup      21     11       11          12           12          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]396      Starly      20     12        9           9            9          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]399      Bidoof      22     11       10          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]401    Kricketot     20      9       10           9           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]403      Shinx       21     13        9          10            9          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]406      Budew       20      9       10          11           13          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]408     Cranidos     23     19       10           9            9          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]410     Shieldon     19     10       18          10           15           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]412      Burmy       20      9       11           9           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]415      Combee      19      9       10           9           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]417    Pachirisu     22     11       13          11           15          16[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]418      Buizel      22     13       10          12            9          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]420     Cherubi      21     10       11          12           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]422     Shellos      24     11       11          12           12           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]425     Drifloon     25     11        9          12           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]427     Buneary      22     13       10          10           12          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]431     Glameow      21     12       10          10           10          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]433    Chingling     21      9       11          13           11          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]434      Stunky      22     12       11          10           10          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]436     Bronzor      22      8       15           8           15           8[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]438      Bonsly      21     14       16           7           11           7[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]439     Mime Jr.     18      9       11          13           15          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]440     Happiny      26      7        7           8           13           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]441      Chatot      24     13       11          15           10          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]442    Spiritomb     21     15       17          15           17          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]443      Gible       22     13       11          10           11          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]446     Munchlax     30     15       10          10           15           7[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]447      Riolu       20     13       10          10           10          12[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]449    Hippopotas    23     13       14          10           10           9[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]451     Skorupi      20     11       15           9           12          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]453     Croagunk     21     12       10          12           10          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]455    Carnivine     23     16       13          15           13          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]456     Finneon      21     11       12          11           12          13[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]458     Mantyke      21      8       11          12           18          11[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]459      Snover      22     12       11          12           12          10[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]479      Rotom       21     11       14          16           14          15[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]489      Phione      24     14       14          14           14          14[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=black]490     Manaphy      26     16       16          16           16          16[/COLOR]
    


    SECTION TWO
    Breeding

    If you put two compatible Pokémon in the Day Care, after you walk/ride a while, the Day Care man will offer you an egg.

    The locations of the Day Care breeding centre for each game are the following:

    RSE: Route 117
    FRLG: Four Island (after beating the Elite Four)
    D/P: Solaceon Town


    1. The Species of the Baby

    The Pokémon that will hatch from the egg will be at Level 5 (Level 1 in DP) and of the first evolution step of the mother's species, unless one of the following occurs:

    1) If one of the parents is Ditto, then the offspring's species is the other parent's first evolution step.
    2) If the mother is Nidoran, then the offspring will either be Nidoran or Nidoran, since they are treated as the same species.
    3) If the mother is Illumise, then the offspring wll either be Volbeat or Illumise, since they are treated as the same species.
    4) A Marill or Azumarill's offspring will be Marill unless one of the parents is holding the item Sea Incense, in which case the baby will be Azurill.
    5) A Wobbuffet's offspring will be Wobbuffet unless one of the parents is holding the item Lax Incense, in which case the baby will be Wynaut.
    6) A Roselia or Roserade's offspring will be Roselia unless one of the parents is holding the item Rose Incense, in which case the baby will be Budew.
    7) A Chimecho's offspring will be Chimecho unless one of the parents is holding the item Pure Incense, in which case the baby will be Chingling.
    8 ) A Sudowoodo's offspring will be Sudowoodo unless one of the parents is holding the item Rock Incense, in which case the baby will be Bonsly.
    9) A Mr.Mime's offspring will be Mr.Mime unless one of the parents is holding the item Odd Incense, in which case the baby will be Mime Jr..
    10) A Chansey or Blissey's offspring will be Chansey unless one of the parents is holding the item Luck Incense, in which case the baby will be Happiny.
    11) A Mantine's offspring will be Mantine unless one of the parents is holding the item Wave Incense, in which case the baby will be Mantyke.
    12) A Snorlax's offspring will be Snorlax unless one of the parents is holding the item Full Incense, in which case the baby will be Munchlax.
    13) A Manaphy's offspring will be Phione, but Phione is itself a final evolution stage Pokémon.


    2. Breedability

    All Pokémon except these can produce eggs (breed):

    -> Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Togepi, Elekid, Magby, Smoochum, Tyrogue, Wynaut, Azurill, Happiny, Mime Jr., Munchlax, Bonsly, Mantyke, Chingling, Budew, Riolu.
    -> Nidorina, Nidoqueen
    -> Unown
    -> Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, Mewtwo, Mew
    -> Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi
    -> Regirock, Registeel, Regice, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys
    -> Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, Regigigas, Giratina, Cresselia, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus
    -> Ditto (breeding a Ditto with another Ditto won´t produce a Ditto egg.)


    3. Egg Groups

    Only Pokémon from the same group can breed. The final forms of the Pokémon are listed in alphabetical order, since all evolved Pokémon forms can breed except Nidorina and Nidoqueen.

    Monster:
    Abomasnow, Aggron, Ampharos, Bastiodon, Blastoise, Charizard, Exploud, Feraligatr, Garchomp, Kangaskhan, Lapras, Lickylicky, Marowak, Meganium, Nidoking, Nidoran, Rampardos, Rhyperior, Sceptile, Slowbro, Slowking, Snorlax, Swampert, Torterra, Tropius, Tyranitar, Venusaur

    Dragon:
    Altaria, Arbok, Charizard, Dragonite, Garchomp, Gyarados, Kingdra, Milotic, Salamence, Sceptile, Seviper

    Ground:
    Absol, Ambipom, Ampharos, Arbok, Arcanine, Bibarel, Blaziken, Buizel, Camerupt, Delcatty, Delibird, Dewgong, Donphan, Dugtrio, Dunsparce, Empoleon, Espeon, Exploud, Farfetch'd, Flareon, Furret, Girafarig, Glaceon, Golduck, Granbull, Grumpig, Hippowdon, Houndoom, Infernape, Jolteon, Kecleon, Leafeon, Linoone, Lopunny, Lucario, Luxray, Mamoswine, Manectric, Mawile, Mightyena, Miltank, Nidoking, Nidoran, Ninetales, Pachirisu, Persian, Primeape, Purugly, Quagsire, Raichu, Rapidash, Raticate, Rhyperior, Sandslash, Seviper, Shiftry, Skuntank, Slaking, Smeargle, Spinda, Stantler, Tauros, Torkoal, Typhlosion, Umbreon, Ursaring, Vaporeon, Wailord, Walrein, Weavile, Zangoose

    Water 1:
    Azumarill, Bibarel, Blastoise, Buizel, Corsola, Crawdaunt, Delibird, Dewgong, Dragonite, Empoleon, Feraligatr, Gastrodon, Golduck, Gorebyss, Huntail, Kabutops, Kingdra, Lapras, Ludicolo, Mantine, Masquerain, Milotic, Octillery, Omastar, Pelipper, Politoed, Poliwrath, Quagsire, Relicanth, Slowbro, Slowking, Swampert, Walrein

    Water 2:
    Gyarados, Lanturn, Lumineon, Luvdisc, Octillery, Qwilfish, Relicanth, Seaking, Sharpedo, Wailord, Whiscash

    Water 3:
    Armaldo, Cloyster, Corsola, Cradily, Crawdaunt, Drapion, Kabutops, Kingler, Omastar, Tentacruel

    Flying:
    Aerodactyl, Altaria, Chatot, Crobat, Dodrio, Farfetch'd, Fearow, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Pelipper, Pidgeot, Skarmory, Staraptor, Swellow, Togekiss, Xatu

    Bug:
    Ariados, Beautifly, Beedrill, Butterfree, Drapion, Dustox, Flygon, Forretress, Gliscor, Heracross, Illumise, Kricketune, Ledian, Masquerain, Mothim, Ninjask, Parasect, Pinsir, Scizor, Scyther, Shuckle, Venomoth, Vespiquen, Volbeat, Wormadam, Yanmega

    Plant:
    Abomasnow, Bellossom, Breloom, Cacturne, Carnivine, Cherrim, Exeggutor, Jumpluff, Ludicolo, Meganium, Parasect, Roserade, Shiftry, Sunflora, Tangrowth, Torterra, Tropius, Venusaur, Victreebel, Vileplume

    Fairy:
    Azumarill, Blissey, Breloom, Castform, Cherrim, Clefable, Delcatty, Froslass, Glalie, Granbull, Jumpluff, Mawile, Minun, Pachirisu, Plusle, Raichu, Roserade, Togekiss, Wigglytuff

    Humanshape:
    Alakazam, Cacturne, Electivire, Hariyama, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Hypno, Illumise, Infernape, Jynx, Lopunny, Lucario, Machamp, Magmortar, Medicham, Mr. Mime, Sableye, Spinda, Toxicroak, Volbeat

    Indeterminate:
    Banette, Castform, Chimecho, Drifblim, Dusknoir, Gallade, Gardevoir, Gastrodon, Gengar, Magcargo, Mismagius, Muk, Spiritomb, Swalot, Weezing, Wobbuffet

    Mineral:
    Froslass, Glalie, Golem, Probopass, Steelix, Sudowoodo

    Genderless (can only breed with Ditto):
    Bronzong, Claydol, Electrode, Lunatone, Magnezone, Manaphy, Metagross, Porygon-Z, Rotom, Shedinja, Solrock, Starmie

    Also, Ditto can breed with any Pokémon from any egg group.


    4. Compatibility

    After you deposit two Pokémon in the Day Care, the Day Care man will tell you their breeding compatibility.

    “Ah, it´s you! Your [Parent A] and [Parent B] are doing fine.”

    The man then tells you one of the following four phrases:

    1. “The two prefer to play with other Pokémon than each other.”

    This means one of the following four cases:
    a) One or both parents cannot breed (is one of the Pokémon listed in Section 2).
    b) They are from different egg groups.
    c) You are breeding a genderless Pokémon with a Pokémon that is not Ditto.
    d) You a breeding a male Pokémon with another male Pokémon, or a female Pokémon with another female Pokémon.

    In this case, the two Pokémon will never breed.

    2. “They don´t seem to like each other much.”

    This means that the Pokémon being bred are different but have the same trainer IDs. They have a low chance of breeding, but they will eventually breed, so don’t give up.

    3. “The two seem to get along.”

    This means either that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon and have the same trainer IDs, or that they are different Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a moderate chance of breeding.

    4. “The two seem to get along very well.”

    This means that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a high chance of breeding.

    Note: By “same Pokémon” is meant two Pokémon of the same species and the same evolution form, for example Bagon + Bagon, Chimchar + Chimchar, etc. By “different Pokémon” is meant two different species of Pokémon or two Pokémon of different evolution forms, for example Kingdra + Bagon or Bagon + Salamence.



    5. Breeding Routes

    This is where you´ll spend most of your time while you breed and hatch.

    In Emerald, it is 134 steps long, ranges from the Battle Tent Sign in Verdanturf Town to the boulder on the shore of Route 118.

    The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of his fence to the left hand side of the end of the route is 66 steps. The distance between him and the right end of the route is 70 steps.

    In Diamond and Pearl, there is a nice road connecting Route 210 (north of SolaceonTown) and Route 209 (south of SolaceonTown) where you can bike through it back and forth while you're breeding. This road is 123 steps long. The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of the day care to the top of Route 210 is 64 steps. The distance between him and the bottom of Route 209 is 71 steps.


    6. IV Chains

    An IV chain is a chain of parents with which you get your Pokémon with the IVs you want.

    For example, an IV chain to get a Duskull with a perfect HP IV, a perfect Defense IV and a perfect Special Defense IV could be the following:

    First, breed a Duskull with any IVs with a Ditto with a perfect 31 IV in HP, until you get a Duskull with a 31 HP IV.
    Next, breed this Duskull with a Ditto with a perfect 31 Defense IV, until you get a Duskull with a 31 IV in HP and in Defense.
    Finally, breed this Duskull with a Ditto with a perfect 31 Special Defense IV, until you get a Duskull with a 31 IV in HP, Defense and Special Defense.

    This can be represented as follows:

    Duskull x/x/x/x/x/x + Ditto 31/x/x/x/x/x = Duskull 31/x/x/x/x/x
    Duskull 31/x/x/x/x/x + Ditto x/x/31/x/x/x = Duskull 31/x/31/x/x/x
    Duskull 31/x/31/x/x/x + Ditto x/x/x/x/31/x = Duskull 31/x/31/x/31/x

    Some IV chains provide a bigger probability of getting the IVs you want than others, which means that you get the Pokémon you want quicker if you use them. If you want to breed for your perfect IV Pokémon, then, you’ll need a chart to see all the probabilities at a glance. This is what Part III of this guide provides. You might also want to use an IV chain in order to breed for your perfect Hidden Power type and base power, in which case, Part IV of this guide provides the details to do just that.

    Let's give an example of a small IV chain here. Suppose you want to breed for a Jolly Garchomp, having a perfect IV in Attack and Speed. You first breed a Gible with a 31 Attack IV Ditto, until you get a Gible with 31 Attack IV. (According to the applet and/or Part III of the guide, this should happen among the first 4 eggs.) Then you breed this Gible with a 31 Speed IV Jolly Ditto holding Everstone, until you get a Gible with 31 IV in both Speed and Attack. (This happens in one in 17 eggs according to the applet and Part III. So, to get a Jolly Gible, you’ll need 17x2 = 34 eggs on average.) So, after breeding an average of only 38 eggs, you have the Gible you want.

    This is illustrated by the following IV chain:

    x/x/x/x/x/x Gible + x/31/x/x/x/x Ditto = x/31/x/x/x/x Gible (4 eggs average)
    x/31/x/x/x/x Gible + x/x/x/x/x/31 Jolly Ditto with Everstone = x/31/x/x/x/31 Jolly Gible (34 eggs average)

    Note that if you do it in reverse (first getting the 31 Speed IV and then getting the 31 Attack IV and the Jolly nature), you need to breed the same number of eggs on average in this case.




    SECTION THREE
    Hatching

    Number of steps to hatch

    Each Pokémon requires that you walk a certain number of steps in order to be able to hatch its egg. This number, unlike what many people think, depends on many factors, which will be explained in detail here.

    First of all, there is an internal number for every hatchable Pokémon on which the number of steps for the egg to hatch is dependent. We will call this number the egg counter. For now, just remember that the smaller the egg counter is, the quicker that Pokémon will hatch. Here is a list of all hatchable Pokémon, and their corresponding egg counter starting number:

    Egg counter starts from 5: Magikarp.

    Egg counter starts from 10: Azurill, Cleffa, Croagunk, Igglybuff, Manaphy, Marill, Pachirisu, Pichu, Togepi.

    Egg counter starts from 15: Bidoof, Burmy, Caterpie, Combee, Corphish, Geodude, Hoothoot, Illumise, Kricketot, Ledyba, Lotad, Nincada, Pidgey, Poochyena, Rattata, Seedot, Sentret, Shroomish, Skitty, Slakoth, Spearow, Spinarak, Spinda, Starly, Surskit, Taillow, Volbeat, Weedle, Wurmple, Zigzagoon, Zubat.

    Egg counter starts from 20: Any hatchable Pokémon not mentioned.

    Egg counter starts from 25: Absol, Carnivine, Castform, Chimecho, Chingling, Duskull, Elekid, Heracross, Lunatone, Magby, Mantine, Mantyke, Mime Jr., Misdreavus, Mr. Mime, Onix, Pinsir, Riolu, Sableye, Sandshrew, Scyther, Shuppet, Skarmory, Smoochum, Solrock, Tropius, Tyrogue, Venonat.

    Egg counter starts from 30: Anorith, Cranidos, Drifloon, Hippopotas, Kabuto, Lileep, Omanyte, Shieldon, Spiritomb.

    Egg counter starts from 35: Aerodactyl, Aron, Eevee.

    Egg counter starts from 40: Bagon, Beldum, Chansey, Dratini, Gible, Happiny, Lapras, Larvitar, Munchlax, Phione, Relicanth, Snorlax, Wailmer.


    Internally, in the game, there is also a step counter. This step counter literally counts the number of steps that you walked during the game. It starts from zero and increases by 1 for every step you take. If it exceeds 255, (i.e. becomes 256) it is reset to zero. (In DP, it is reset to zero when it becomes 255, not 256. Why this happens is unclear.) This step counter is also reset to zero whenever the player collects an egg from the Day Care.

    Whenever the step counter reaches 255, the game checks if you have any eggs in your team. If you do, then it checks if its egg counter is zero or less. If it is not zero, this egg counter is decreased by 1, or by 2 if you have a Pokémon with Flame Body or Magma Armor in your team. This is the reason why Flame Body and Magma Armor roughly half your number of steps needed in order to hatch an egg. If the egg counter is zero or less, that egg hatches.

    If you are carrying more than one egg, and the step counter reaches 255, then all the egg counters, starting from the topmost one, are checked to see if they hatch or not. If that egg's egg counter is not zero, it is decreased accordingly (by 2 if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, or by 1 otherwise), and the next egg is checked. If it is zero, then that egg hatches, and the other eggs’ counters are not checked or decreased. This means that you cannot hatch two or more eggs simultaneously, but you need to wait at least 256 steps (255 in DP) between a hatching egg and another.

    Here is a step-by-step account of the above explanation.

    Whenever the player walks/rides a step, the game does the following:

    Step 1: Increase the step counter by 1.
    Step 2: (For RSFRLGE) If the step counter is 256, reset the step counter to zero.
    Step 3: If the step counter is not 255, skip all the following steps.
    Step 4: (For DP) Reset the step counter to zero.
    Step 5: Make an internal list of all the eggs that the player has in the team, starting from the topmost egg in the team and finishing with the bottom egg.
    Step 6: If this list is empty, skip all the following steps.
    Step 7: If the egg counter for the first egg in the list is zero or less, hatch that egg and skip all the following steps.
    Step 8: If the egg counter for the first egg in the list is greater than zero, decrease it by 2 if the player has a Pokémon with the ability Magma Armor or Flame Body in the team, or by 1 otherwise.
    Step 9: Remove the first egg from the list and go to Step 6.

    Remember also that the step counter resets to zero whenever you take an egg from the Day Care. Every time you do so, the number of steps you need to walk in order to hatch your eggs will be increased by at most 254, depending on how much was the step counter before being reset.

    Assuming you do NOT reset the internal step counter by taking another egg from the Day Care and you have only one egg in your team, these are the amount of steps you need to walk in order for your egg to hatch:

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 5:

    For RSFRLGE, 1023 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 1535 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 1020 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 1530 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 10:

    For RSFRLGE, 1535 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 2815 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 1530 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 2805 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 15:

    For RSFRLGE, 2303 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 4095 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 2298 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 4080 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 20:

    For RSFRLGE, 2815 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 5375 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 2805 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 5355 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 25:

    For RSFRLGE, 3583 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 6655 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 3570 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 6630 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 30:

    For RSFRLGE, 4095 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 7935 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 4080 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 7905 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 35:

    For RSFRLGE, 4863 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 9215 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 4845 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 9180 steps if you don’t.

    For Pokémon with egg counter starting from 40:

    For RSFRLGE, 5375 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 10495 steps if you don’t.
    For DP, 5355 steps if you have a Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, 10455 steps if you don’t.

    If you have more than one egg in your team, and/or you get another egg from the Day Care while already having an egg in your party, the number of steps you need to walk for the eggs to hatch isn’t so clear-cut. An example would explain what will happen more than just words.

    Suppose we’re breeding Magikarp in Emerald with a Magcargo with Flame Body in our team. A Magikarp egg is taken from the Day Care, and thus, the step counter resets to zero. The egg counter for Magikarp starts from 5:

    Step Counter: 0. Egg1 Counter: 5.

    After walking 255 steps, the step counter reaches 255. The game checks if Egg1 Counter is zero or less. It isn’t, so it is decreased by 2.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg1 Counter: 3.

    Suppose that now we walk 50 more steps, and another Magikarp egg is created. We go and fetch it. The step counter is reset to 0.

    Step Counter: 0. Egg1 Counter: 3. Egg2 Counter: 5.

    After walking 255 steps, the step counter reaches 255. The game checks if Egg1 Counter is zero or less. It isn’t, so it is decreased by 2. Egg2 Counter is also greater than zero, so it is decreased by 2 as well.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg1 Counter: 1. Egg2 Counter: 3.
    We walk 256 more steps (one to reset the counter to zero, and 255 more to reach 255), and the step counter reaches 255 again. The game checks if Egg1 Counter is zero or less. It isn’t, so it is decreased by 2. Egg2 Counter is also greater than zero, so it is decreased by 2 as well.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg1 Counter: -1. Egg2 Counter: 1.

    We walk 256 more steps, and the step counter reaches 255 again. This time, Egg1 Counter is less than zero, so the first egg hatches. Since an egg hatched, the game doesn’t check nor decrease Egg2 Counter at this point.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg1 Hatches. Egg2 Counter: 1.

    We walk 256 more steps, and the step counter reaches 255 again. Egg2 Counter is still greater than zero, so it is decreased by 2.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg2 Counter: -1.

    Finally, after walking yet another 256 steps, the second egg hatches.

    Step Counter: 255. Egg2 Hatches.

    Let’s see how many steps we had to walk for the eggs to hatch.

    For the first egg, we walked 255 + 50 + 255 + 256 + 256 = 1072 steps.

    For the second egg, we walked 255 + 256 + 256 + 256 + 256 = 1279 steps.

    The above example should have shown why calculating the number of steps required to hatch an egg is more complicated than most people think. It showed, however, that having more than one egg in your team increases the number of steps required in order to hatch them. In the example above, the first egg required 49 steps more than the minimum 1023 steps in order to hatch, while the second one required a whopping 256 more steps.

    As most people know, you can also look at the egg to check its state. The message that is displayed is directly related to its egg counter. There are three different messages that can be displayed:

    1) What will hatch from this? It will take some time. In this case, the egg counter is 11 or more.
    2) It moves occasionally. It should hatch soon. In this case, the egg counter is between 6 and 10.
    3) It´s making sounds. It´s about to hatch! In this case, the egg counter is 5 or less.



    2. Hatching methods

    A) Soft reset method

    This method is based on the fact that in Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, gender, nature (personality) and ability (trait) are already set (locked) as soon as the egg is created, before you take it. That means that if you save exactly before taking the egg and then soft reset, the Pokémon inside the egg will have the same gender, nature and ability if you load again.

    1. Save in front of the Day Care grandpa.
    2. Take the egg.
    3. Bike on the breeding route.
    4. Ignore the next egg proposed to you by the Day Care grandpa.
    5. Hatch the egg.
    6. Check the newly hatched Pokémn to see whether it does have the desired gender, nature and ability and
    a) If it doesn´t have the desired gender/nature/ability, save in front of the Day Care grandpa again (there should be another egg waiting for you, which was produced while you hatched the first one) and repeat the process until you get a suitable baby.
    b) If it does have the desired gender/nature/ability, but it doesn´t have the desired IVs, soft reset the game (START+SELECT+A+B) and take the egg again (gender/nature/ability won´t change, only the IVs), hatch and check the IVs, repeat the process until you get the IVs you want.

    Pros:
    1. The gender, nature and ability you want are set in stone.
    2. This method is useful to get a female Pokémon with the right nature and a few perfect IVs.
    3. It is also useful if the parents don´t like each other much.

    Cons:
    1. Not many babies are bred and checked using this method, which means that it can get hard to get the right IVs when there isn´t a high probability.
    2. This method does not suit persons who care about game time more than anything else.

    I recommend using this method at the beginning, when the probabilities to get the IVs you want are still relatively high (like when getting 1 or 2 flawless IVs). Alternatively, you can use this method when you're trying to get a female parent with the right nature. If you want to breed for 3 flawless IVs or more, where the probability of getting the desired IVs is less than 1 in 50, the running method is recommended.


    B) Running method (E)

    Using this method, Pokémon are hatched and checked regularly while having five eggs in your team.

    The exact process for Pokémon having egg counter 40 (see the previous section):
    1. Take the first egg
    2. Bike 66 steps to the left, to Verdanturf town (1)
    134 steps to the right, to the stone at Route 118 (2)
    134 steps to the left (3)
    134 steps to the right (4)
    134 steps to the left (5)
    134 steps to the right (6)
    134 steps to the left (7)
    134 steps to the right (8 )
    134 steps to the left (9)
    134 steps to the right (10)
    3. Take another egg, now repeat the process until you have five eggs.

    As you start, some of the eggs will hatch before you have five eggs, but after a while, the first egg will then always hatch after you hit (10), exactly two steps before the boy standing on route 118 (seven steps away form the right end of the Breeding route). This is exactly 1279 steps after taking the fifth egg.

    Now, go to the MauvilleCityPokémonCenter, choose the option "Deposit" in Lanette´s PC and check the baby (use you level 5 max stats paper) and either release it or, if it looks promising, save in front of the PC and Rare Candy it to get a better view of the IVs.
    If the baby has better IVs than one of its parents, deposit the four eggs, get the fifth, switch the baby with the appropriate parent, go to the PC in the Day Care, release the old parent, get the other 4 eggs and continue.

    The process for Pokémon having egg counter 20:
    Bike 66 steps to the left (1)
    134 steps to the right (2)
    134 steps to the left (3)
    134 steps to the right (4)
    134 steps to the left (5)
    134 steps to the right (6)

    After a while, the first egg will always hatch 31 steps away from the right end of the Breeding route, which is a few steps before the Pokémon Center in Mauville City.

    The process for Pokémon having egg counter 10:
    Bike 66 steps to the left (1)
    134 steps to the right (2)
    134 steps to the left (3)
    134 steps to the right (4)

    Take the next egg. The first few eggs will hatch before you have five in your team, but you have to ride those four lengths (1), (2), (3) and (4) nonetheless. After a while, the first egg will always hatch at the same place. When you´re done with the four lengths, go straight to the MauvilleCityPokémonCenter. The egg will hatch two steps away from the PC.

    Using this method, you breed:
    -> Around 25 to 26 eggs an hour for egg counter 40 Pokémon. One egg takes approximately 137-140 seconds (2 minutes 20 seconds) to hatch.
    -> Around 34 to 35 eggs an hour for egg counter 20 Pokémon. One egg takes approximately 102-105 seconds (1 minute 45 seconds) to hatch.
    -> Around 42 to 43 eggs an hour for egg counter 10 Pokémon. One egg takes approximately 82-85 seconds (1 minute 25 seconds) to hatch.

    Pros:
    1. A large number of eggs is bred.
    2. A newly hatched baby can be used as one of the new parents immediately.

    Cons:
    1. Sometimes, the eggs are not created when you're ready to take another egg. The result is that the next few eggs will hatch earlier than you want. This means you have to oversee the number of lengths you ride, like at the beginning.
    2. There is no fix number of lengths for egg counter 5, 15, 25 and 35 Pokémon, so you may find it a bit more difficult to breed those Pokémon using this method.

    Don´t use this method when the parents don´t like each other much, as you won´t get eggs at regular intervals. This method is best suited for the final stages of breeding, when you breed for 3 or more perfect IVs using at least parents with 2 flawless IVs (one overlaps), when you don´t need to get a particular nature/ability combination. Most of the time it´s worth even then, as you can get parents with awesome IVs who can then pass IVs to other Pokémon.


    C) Mass hatch method

    This method consists of three separate stages. First you get a large number of eggs, then you hatch all of them and check them at the end.

    Stage One: Getting a number of eggs
    You take an egg as soon as it is created. When you have five eggs in your team and the next one is created, deposit all five in a box. Repeat this process until you have at least 25 eggs in a box. Take the parents from the daycare and leave the Pokémon you want to level up there instead.

    Stage Two: Hatching all eggs
    Withdraw five eggs having approximately the same number of steps walked before deposit (for example #5, #10, #15, #20 and #25) and ride the bike unless all of them hatch. Then deposit the Pokémon, withdraw another five eggs (#4, #9, #14, #19, #24) and hatch them. Repeat the process until all eggs hatch.

    Stage Three: Checking all eggs
    If you want, first save in front of the PC. This helps if you release the wrong Pokémon by mistake. In the PC, choose the "Move Pokémon" option and go through all of the babies quickly to check if there are any shinies. Get your level 5 max neutral stats paper and check the babies. If you see one that you're aiming for, mark that baby (for flawless IVs I use ring = HP, square = Attack/Defense, triangle = Special Attack/Special Defense, heart = Speed). After you´re done, release all the unmarked babies. Now withdraw five of the marked babies, and save in front of the PC. Rare Candy all five to Level 10 and check their IVs. Continue to Rare Candy the ones that look promising. When you´re done, soft reset, release the ones that didn´t pass the check, and deposit the rest. Repeat the process until you check all of the marked babies.

    Pros:
    1. A large number of eggs (about the same amount as for the running method) are bred.
    2. Other Pokémon can level up during this process.
    3. You are able to do other things while riding your bike (like watching TV or surfing the Smogon boards).
    4. You don´t lose as much time as with the running method while going to your PC and back - around 30 seconds. For 25 eggs, this means there will be five deposits and five withdrawals. For the running method, you would make 25 deposits. On the other hand, the mass hatch method wastes time while waiting for egg creation and because of some of the eggs being left in the PC.

    Cons:
    1. The time it takes to complete this method relies a lot on how often an egg is created. That´s why it´s only suited for when the parents get along very well, or get along. Sometimes, it takes around three minutes to get five eggs, sometimes even more than five.
    2. Switching parents during this process is impossible. You´ll have to wait until you have hatched and checked all the babies before doing so.

    This method is suited for the final stages of breeding, where you go for 3 or 4 flawless IV babies while you have both parents with at least 2 flawless IVs. You can also level up two other Pokémon while you ride the bike.


    Credits

    We wish to thank the following people:

    - loadingNOW for looking at the Emerald ROM to discover a lot of things related to the number of steps required in order for an egg to hatch.
    - Eszett for contributing the method of finding Synchonize Natu from the Safari Zone.
    - Paperfairy for contributing the locations of Magma Armor/Flame Body Pokémon, Everstone and Ditto.
  2. Reflect Suicune

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    - You should make it clear that the effect of multiple flame body/magma armor pokemon is the same as the effect of a single flame body/magma armor pokemon
    - If you take an egg with a counter of 0 or less and move it to the last slot of your team, you can (usually) avoid the problem below

  3. Falkon

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    I might point out the usefulness of my discovery concerning looking at egg natures and abilities before the egg has actually hatched for speeding up the process in the "Soft Reset" section.

    Here's the thread and method if you're interested: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19910

    Just a thought, if you guys want to add it go ahead.
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    The one question I still have is whether or not the breeding tricks are incompatible with DP and Advance Pokes breeding together. I heard somewhere that it was incompatible, but I didn't see it mentioned in your guide...confirmation either way would be appreciated. =o
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    two things you could see as "changes", I think you heard of the the first one Steeler36, the only thing that has been found as incompatible is the everstone effect, but ONLY if you breed two pokémon from different language games


    @silver shadow - point one, I guess there´s no problem with addding that;
    point two, you´re right but it´s not easy to tell which egg that is and it´s only applicable in the third hatch method mentioned - mass hatch method, as in the first you take only one egg and in the second you actually use that disadvantage for regular hatching

    anyway, maybe I should research the egg messages, I think "it´s about to hatch" could be step counter around 4...


    @falkon - thank you, we will consider addind that



    EDIT: I´ve checked the egg messages (the term "STATE" is used in the game), here the results:

    What will hatch from this? It will take some time.
    -> slakoth egg (15) starts with this message, after walking 255(6) steps three times (five times without magma armor), the message changed to

    It moves occasionally. It should hatch soon.
    -> after walking another five 255(6) lengths with slakoth (without magma armor) and three with a pichu (with magma armor, starts at 10 with this message), the message changed to

    It´s making sounds. It´s about to hatch!
    -> magikarp egg (5) starts with this message

    so it´s either at 11/6 or 10/5, not sure if I can count the first 255 steps, but you know, X-Act, right? :p

    please add these into the Number of steps section ("1." is missing in the title)
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    When the Slakoth egg's counter was 15, 13 and 11, the message was "What will hatch from this?" When it was 9, it became "It moves occasionally". Pichu, with egg counter 10, starts with this message. Therefore, "What will hatch from this?" means that the egg counter is more than 10.

    When Pichu's egg's counter was 10, 8 and 6, the message was "It moves occasionally" When it was 4, it became "It´s making sounds" Magikarp, with egg counter 5, starts with this message. Therefore, "It moves occasionally" means that the egg counter is between 6 and 10, and "It´s making sounds" means that the egg counter is less than 6.

    I added this to the guide.
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    Good guide first of all.

    Well for Ditto catching, I just mass cloned master balls to make is heaps easier. I would use abra since it learns teleport when born (and it is faster than flying to the Frontier) holding Smoke Ball, to escape easily from Whismur and Loudred. I have it with my Flygon which knows dig and fly. I normally save in the cave, catch 4 dittos with master balls, dig, then teleport back to frontier, check pokemon, if none have a perfect IV I soft reset, if at least one does, I go down to the and deposit it, release the others and then fly back and continue.

    I guess something better to do would actually just clear out 1 or more boxes, then with lots of master balls, which is easy to get with the "move item" cloning glitch where you can double your amount each clone, mass catch dittos until you are low, then check all of them and repeat.
  8. Suikama

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    You forgot that Unown can't breed.

    Other than that, a most excellent guide.
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    Thanks for pointing it out. Fixed.
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    I don't get it, so what would the max stat in defense be for a level 5 Bold Chansey? Its not a 2 digit stat so I'm a little confused here.
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    If it's not a two-digit number, then you just keep it the way it is.
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    Mention the Nature finding glitch in D/P. It will immensely help you with locking natures
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    What do you mean? How exactly is a max stat calculated with a beneficial nature with a number less than 10?
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    5, 6, 7, 8, 9 = beneficial nature + 0, hindering nature - 1
    10 = beneficial nature + 1, hindering nature -1
    11-19 = beneficial nature +1, hindering nature - 2
    20 = beneficial nature + 2, hindering nature - 2
    21-29 = beneficial nature + 2, hindering nature - 3
    etc.

    bold chansey max lv. 5 stat is 7 (neutral is also 7)


    I guess this could be added just for clarification
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    If a stat is less than 10, the stat will stay the same even with a beneficial nature.

    I will add what Peterko posted in the guide for clarification, although I think I wrote an example in the guide as well.
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    You should also mention that the running method might make you lose a lot of money. (Literally, I can't get my torchic out of there).
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    A friend (thnx, Windie) tested this, he bred an English Emerald Venusaur with a German Fire Red Tangela (female, serious) on Emerald, 6/10 were serious, so it applies only in Diamond



    @ UrNightmare: yeah you´re right, could be added as a negative aspect, I have to fly around and re-battle the gym leaders once in a while because it eats a lot of money when you breed all the time
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    Thanks for adding my contribution X-Act.

    Also, after you mentioned about how picking up eggs will reset the step counter and make your eggs take longer to hatch, I've been using the Poketch step counter to keep track of the internal 255 counter. After resetting when I know the step counter is 255 (usually after an egg hatches or I pick up an egg) I try to aim myself right next to the breeding center husband whenever the counter hits a multiple of 255 and see if he has an egg. If he does and I take it, the counter "resets", but I don't lose any steps on your eggs because the counter goes from 0 to 0.

    Now this presents a bit of a dilemma in Diamond and Pearl - namely, the way the map is set up prevents you from being able to stand next to the husband at both 255 steps and 510 (255*2) steps. So, normally, you would be able to be next to him at 255 Poketch steps and 511 Poketch steps. How, then, do you go about juxtaposing yourself next to him on an even number of steps?

    Simple enough - you just jump off a cliff. This registers as one step on the step counters (both internal and Poketch), but you move two spaces on the grid - this shifts your alignment to allow you to stand next to him after the next 255 steps as opposed to on the 256th step. Fortunately, there is a nice series of cliffs right in Solaceon - below the eastern portion of the road at the top of the town. Jump down the first series of cliffs off this road right after getting an egg or hitting 255 on the Poketch will set up your walking grid to position yourself in front of the husband time you hit 255 steps (you should jump off of 5 cliffs, any odd number will suffice).

    I don't know how much time this has actually saved me, but in theory I am hatching all of my eyes in as few steps as I possibly can.
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    Wow... I thought I knew everything to know about breeding, but you guys have really pushed the envelope! Excellent work! This'll be really helpful!
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    Lets say I'm soft reseting for a pokemon's IVs for breeding. So I save before taking the egg just in case I don't like the Pokemon's IVs. Lets say that the pokemon hatched and I wanted to check its IVs. If I use rare candies on it and it has bad stats, of course I'll jsut restart. In another case, however, how are you suppose to get your rare candies back if you like the IVs of the Pokemon?
  21. Peterko

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    you won´t get them back, that´s why you shouldn´t waste that many to check or learn to check at the lowest possible level - it´s pretty easy on emerald, because the BF IV guy will help you a lot...if you´re not a friend of cloning rare candies in emerald and transfering them through pal park, get 6 pickup pkmn on at least level 42 (though 92+ would be better, as you have a chance to pickup earthquake and leftovers) and KO plenty of wild pkmn...the lowest possible level of a pickup pkmn to get rare candies is 22, but they are rare...you can try ask people to trade you their lv.92+ linoone which they palparked or something
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    The passing of Ivs look so easy and "fun" on paper but it's really hard when you try it. This leads me to a question.

    I have two parents.

    Male magikarp with 21/31/28/4/19/31 and a female Magikarp with 31/24/9/17/31/17

    And the baby came out as 21/31/28/4/20/31 which is like *almost* the SAME ONE AS THE MALE! xD

    If this justifiable or...?
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    yeah, it got passed three IVs from its "father" and 2 random were the same...

    actually I got identical magikarp before with these IVs 27/31/5/30/31/31, nope, didn´t clone them (not sure if it was parent-baby or 2 babies)...this happens because all the randoms are not exactly random, there was a topic about this some time ago

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19640
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    @hungry: If you have MKPP, it's a lot easier to find ivs. You can find almost the exact ones by recording the stats (and any evs gained) for the first 10-11 levels, then entering it all in the (new) iv calculator. I don't have a lot of rare candys yet in DP, so I just go somewhere with lv. 20 pokes, slap on exp. share, and battle 2 or 3 wild (or sometimes trainer) pokemon. Sure, it's rather time-consuming, but it's better than nothin'. And that max stats list could really help too (thanks for that guys)
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    I don't know if it was intentional or not, Manaphy is not on the list. I know you can not breed for more Manaphy, but some people (like me) may be willing to save the game before they get the Manaphy egg and hatch over and over again to make sure they get a Manaphy with a good nature and good IVs.

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