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Pawniard (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Heysup, Oct 1, 2010.

  1. Heysup

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    http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/komatana

    [Overview]

    <p>Pawniard
    is one of the most destructive Pokemon in Little Cup, as only a handful of Pokemon can survive a Swords Dance-boosted STAB Sucker Punch due to its high Attack stat. Pawniard also has a pretty easy time setting up on many Pokemon due to its numerous resistances and decent defensive stats, particularly its Defense. However, Pawniard's main weakness is that it has certain hard counters that can not only survive a +2 Sucker Punch or Brick Break, but also use 4x super effective priority moves such as Mach Punch. All in all, Pawniard is a very dangerous Pokemon if allowed to set up, and its STAB Sucker Punch can plow right through weakened teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Brick Break
    move 4: Night Slash / Iron Head
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Defiant
    nature: Adamant / Jolly
    evs: 236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This Pawniard set is incredibly hard to stop if given a chance to set up. Sucker Punch is Pawniard's most useful move because not only does it allow Pawniard to revenge kill in the early stages of the game and sweep late game, but it also gives Pawniard chances to set up due to forcing many switches. Swords Dance allows Pawniard to pose a game-ending threat throughout the match if left free to set up. Brick Break provides excellent coverage with Sucker Punch, hitting Pokemon such as Scraggy and other Pawniard. Night Slash and Iron Head are both excellent moves in the last slot for a reliable STAB attack, having high Base Power. The choice between the two is a tough one. Night Slash reliably beats Pokemon such as Bronzor (who uses Reflect to avoid Sucker Punch) and Frillish (who uses Will-O-Wisp), while sacrificing the ability to harm certain Pokemon. Iron Head not only allows Pawniard to hit Fighting-types harder on the switch, but it also gives Pawniard a useful flinching move. The strategy is quite simple; weaken the opponent's team, Swords Dance when possible, and sweep.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is very simple, maximizing Pawniard's Attack and Speed while also granting one more point to its good Defense stat. Adamant and Jolly are both viable options for a nature. Adamant provides more power, making Pawniard a massive pain to deal with for slow teams or frail offensive teams. Jolly, however, lets Pawniard outpace other neutral-natured Pawniard and Houndour. As for items, Oran Berry can be used over Life Orb if the recoil is a concern. It gives Pawniard more survivability, but the loss in power adversely affects Pawniard's chance to sweep.</p>

    <p>Bulky Fighting-types such as
    Eviolite Scraggy and Timburr are merely dented by Pawniard's Sucker Punch, and Brick Break doesn't do enough either. Scarf Machop can pose a problem as well, but it can't take more than one attack from Pawniard. Pawniard also appreciates any Pokemon that gives it an opportunity to set up. With these reasons in mind, Wynaut makes an excellent teammate. It not only traps and KOes Fighting-types, but it also can use Encore to give Pawniard a chance to set up. Stealth Rock and Spikes are also quite useful, considering almost everything that survive a Sucker Punch takes full damage from both, with the exception of Gligar and Hippopotas. To deal with those two Ground-types, Frillish is suggested to cushion the Earthquakes and spread Will-O-Wisp to weaken the opponent's team. Misdreavus and Gastly also work quite well, but they do not have access to STAB Surf to destroy said Ground-types. Ghost-types also come with a nice bonus; they are immune to the Fighting-type moves which decimate Pawniard, and as a result cause Hi Jump Kick users such as Meditite to take huge damage when they switch in.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1:
    Iron Head
    move 2: Pursuit
    move 3: Brick Break
    move 4: Psycho Cut / Night Slash
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Defiant
    nature: Adamant / Jolly
    evs: 236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Since
    Pawniard has decent Speed and a monstrous Attack stat, it can run a Choice Scarf set very well. STAB Iron Head allows Pawniard to maintain a strong offensive presence even without Sucker Punch and a boosting move, allowing it to revenge kill a wide range of threats and sweep late game. Its chance to flinch can also be game-changing sometimes. Brick Break is a great coverage move, allowing Pawniard to smack the Fighting-types who resist its STAB moves hard. Clearing the field of dual screens is also a nice perk. There are two options for the last moveslot. While Psycho Cut destroys unsuspecting Fighting-types who might switch in to revenge kill Pawniard, Night Slash allows Pawniard to hit Bronzor and Slowpoke hard, while also giving it a strong secondary STAB attack. One of the most important aspects of this set, however, is that it can easily switch into any Ghost-type attack and Pursuit them for monstrous damage, KOing most of them.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Choice Scarf
    Pawniard's main problem is its lack of power, even though it has a high Attack stat. Any defensive Pokemon that has a reliable recovery move is going to cause a lot of problems. This makes it wise to carry some wallbreakers or setup sweepers. Pokemon such as Gligar can switch into defensive Pokemon such as Hippopotas and set up. Misdreavus works as well, setting up Nasty Plot or Substitute. Generally, having a Ground-type immunity is going to be a huge help to Pawniard,since most of the counters to this set commonly pack Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Additionally,
    Pawniard pairs well with Fighting-types that can abuse Ghost-types being removed from the match. Meditite is an excellent choice for a teammate, since it can wreak havoc with its powerful STAB Hi Jump Kick without fear of dealing major damage to itself.</p>

    [
    Other Options]

    <p>Pawniard could run a Choice Band set, but being locked into Sucker Punch is a terrible thing, as it essentially gives your opponent free time to set up. Life Orb would always be better, even with a four attack set. Rock Polish could be used to boost Pawniard's Speed and pick apart weakened offensive teams, but Pawniard already has Swords Dance and Sucker Punch, and priority ruins it as well. Pawniard can also function as an effective lead, but sadly, Stealth Rock and Sucker Punch cannot be used together.</p>


    [
    Checks and Counters]

    <p>Bulky Fighting-types of all kinds are practically impossible for
    Pawniard to defeat without some help. Eviolite Timburr is the best counter you're going to get. Bronzor is also quite effective, but if it has taken any damage, a Swords Dance-boosted Night Slash could do Bronzor in.</p>

    <p>Being Steel-type and grounded,
    Pawniard is vulnerable not only to Diglett, but also to Magnemite. With a Choice Scarf, Magnemite can outpace and OHKO Pawniard. Diglett needs Substitute to get around Pawniard's Sucker Punch, but otherwise it's quite reliable.</p>
  2. Heysup

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    this is done
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    This thing gets Stealth Rock, Taunt and has decent Speed, so its practically begging for a Lead set. Komatana @ Focus Sash / Berry Juice - Taunt / Stealth Rock / Sucker Punch / Brick Break sounds like it would be potent on offensive teams. Well, most teams in Little Cup are offensive, but you get the idea.

    Also, this is going to be a huge stretch, but Koromori has Unaware, so SubKoromori might be a counter if it can Sub on the Sucker Punch. It can then hit Komatana with... HP Fighting or Ground I guess.
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    Wild Eep told me that it likely isn't possible to get Sucker Punch and Stealth Rock on the same set. This takes away from the effectiveness of the lead immensely, even to the point of it being bad.

    And Koro still can't switch in and survive an Iron Head.
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    Full Analysis done.
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    Maybe stress that lots of stuff can beat Komatana if they Substitute on the Spunch?

    Also, what does Adamant do? 'Cause Jolly is usually better. Unless Adamant provides 2HKOs/OHKOs.

    Also, Croagunk and his Vwave aren't a check? They can't switch on Iron Head, but...
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    It's funny that you ask those two questions together....

    Adamant +2 LO Sucker Punch actually OHKOes Croagunk. Jolly is ok, but Adamant provides more power, I'll emphasize the differences in AC.
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    Am I doing something wrong where I make Munchlax a Dark-type (same base attack), give it a Life Orb and make it jolly, give it +2 attack, then sucker punch a Croagunk for 137.9% - 162.6%?

    Cause if I'm not...damn this thing is strong.

    EDIT: Oh, I forgot to make them level 5. Only 110.5% - 136.8%.

    Still.
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    Jolly does 100% only if the Croagunk has its health lowered to 19 and does not invest in Defense (i invest in defense specifically to survive...). You calcs are pretty far off....

    I don't feel like going through every single Pokemon, but in my experience it has helped against many Pokemon (like KOing a higher HP Gligar) where the Speed only helps against other Komatana.
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    ...oh.

    Um, dream world section going "Pressure sucks?"

    And

    Shouldn't that be "Missy/Gastly/Duskull," since Pururiru doesn't actually resist Ground?
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    Pururiru can easily cushion most Earthquakes - especially unboosted ones from those two Ground-types. The other Ghosts aren't as effective in that scenario because they don't have STAB Surf.
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    Aha.

    You should probably replace "spread burn" with "kill them with Surf."
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    Quality Control 2/2

    Nice work.
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    Just a note, that you should run 36 EVs in Defence and Special Defence. This way each stat gains one point, as 76 changes nothing.
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    uggg I changed everything thing to the english version. Just c/p it.
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    Sorry to keep doing this to your threads Heysup, its just that most of your threads are pretty much done. This needs to be GP'ed. If you're busy Heysup, I can finish it if its fine with you
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    Thanks macle. Still need GP though.
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    Before we can GP this, please update the analysis to the new format [no Team Options; Other Options --> Optional Changes; Counters --> Checks and Counters].

    Just add the sentences in Team Options to the respective Additional Comments.
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    also the thread name should be "Pawniard".
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    Competitive Spirit is now Defiant, just a small nitpick.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Pawniard
    is one of the most destructive Pokemon in Little Cup, as only a handful of Pokemon can safely survive a Swords Dance-boosted STAB Sucker Punch due to its high Attack stat. Pawniard also has a pretty easy time setting up on many Pokemon due to its numerous resistances and usable defenses, particularly physical decent defensive stats, particularly its Defense. However, Pawniard's main weakness is that it has certain hard counters that can not only survive a +2 Sucker Punch or Brick Break, but they can also use 4x super effective priority moves such as Mach Punch. All in all, Pawniard is a very dangerous Pokemon if allowed to set up, and its STAB Sucker Punch can plow right through weakened teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Brick Break
    move 4: Night Slash / Iron Head
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Defiant
    nature: Adamant / Jolly
    evs: 236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This Pawniard set is incredibly hard to stop if given a chance to set up. Sucker Punch is Pawniard's most useful move because not only does it allow Pawniard to revenge kill in the early stages of the game and sweep late game, but it also gives Pawniard chances to set up due to forcing many switches. Swords Dance allows Pawniard to pose a game-ending threat throughout the match if left free to set up. Brick Break provides excellent coverage with Sucker Punch, hitting Pokemon such as Scraggy and other Pawniard. Night Slash and Iron Head are both excellent moves in the last slot for a reliable sweeping attack STAB attack, having high Base Power. The choice between the two is a tough one. Night Slash reliably beats Pokemon such as Bronzor (who uses Reflect to avoid Sucker Punch) and Frillish (who uses Will-O-Wisp), while sacrificing the ability to harm certain Pokemon. Iron Head not only allows Pawniard to hit Fighting-types harder on the switch, but it also gives Pawniard a useful flinching move. The strategy is quite simple; weaken the opponent's team, Swords Dance when possible, and sweep.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The choice between Iron Head and Night Slash is a tough one. Night Slash reliably beats Pokemon such as Bronzor (who uses Reflect to avoid Sucker Punch) and Frillish (who uses Will-O-Wisp), while sacrificing the ability to harm certain Pokemon. Iron Head not only allows Pawniard to hit Fighting-types harder on the switch, but it also gives Pawniard a useful flinching move. As for its nature, The EV spread is very simple, maximizing Pawniard's Attack and Speed while also granting one more point to its good Defense stat. Adamant and Jolly both work well are both viable options for a nature. Adamant provides more power, meaning it can cause a more threatening sweep against a slower team or a team beaten by Sucker Punch making Pawniard a massive pain to deal with for slow teams or frail offensive teams. Jolly, however, lets you Pawniard outpace other neutral-natured Pawniard and Houndour. As for items, Oran Berry can be used over Life Orb if the recoil is a concern. It gives Pawniard more survivability, but the loss in power is quite harmful adversely affects Pawniard's chance to sweep.</p>

    <p>Bulky Fighting-types such as Eviolite Scraggy and Timburr with Eviolite are merely dented by Pawniard's Sucker Punch, and Brick Break doesn't do enough either. Scarf Machop can pose a problem as well, but it can't take more than one attack from Pawniard. Pawniard also appreciates any Pokemon that gives it an opportunity to set up. With these reasons in mind, Wynaut makes an excellent teammate. It not only traps and KOes Fighting-types, but it also can use Encore to give Komatana Pawniard a chance to set up. Stealth Rock and Spikes are also quite useful, considering almost everything that survive a Sucker Punch takes full damage from both, with the exception of Gligar and Hippopotas. To deal with those two Ground-types, Frillish is suggested to cushion the Earthquakes and spread Will-O-Wisp to weaken the opponent's team. Misdreavus and Gastly also work quite well, but they do not have access to STAB Surf to destroy said Ground-types. Ghost-types also come with a nice bonus; when they switch into a High Jump Kick, the attacker will get severely damaged they are immune to the Fighting-type moves which decimate Pawniard, and as a result cause Hi Jump Kick users such as Meditite to take huge damage when they switch in.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1:
    Iron Head
    move 2: Pursuit
    move 3: Brick Break
    move 4: Psycho Cut / Night Slash
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Defiant
    nature: Adamant / Jolly
    evs: 236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Since
    Pawniard has decent Speed and a monstrous Attack stat, a Choice Scarf set comes to mind it can run a Choice Scarf set very well. Iron Head is its main revenge killing and late game sweeping Attack, and the flinch can be quite useful at times STAB Iron Head allows Pawniard to maintain a strong offensive presence even without Sucker Punch and a boosting move, allowing it to revenge kill a wide range of threats and sweep late game. Its chance to flinch can also be game-changing sometimes. Brick Break is a great coverage move, clearing the field of screens is a nice perk as well allowing Pawniard to smack the Fighting-types who resist its STAB moves hard. Clearing the field of dual screens is also a nice perk. Psycho Cut is also quite effective on this set because it allows Pawniard to severely cripple Pokemon such as Timburr and Machop, and easily OHKOing Croagunk. Night Slash can be used as well, since this set lacks a solid Dark-type sweeping attack to hit Pokemon such as Bronzor or Slowpoke There are two options for the last moveslot. While Psycho Cut destroys unsuspecting Fighting-types who might switch in to revenge kill Pawniard, Night Slash allows Pawniard to hit Bronzor and Slowpoke hard, while also giving it a strong secondary STAB attack. One of the most important aspects of this set, however, is that it can easily switch into any Ghost-type attack and Pursuit them for monstrous damage, KOing most of them.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Choice Scarf
    Pawniard's main problem is its lack of power, even though it has a high Attack stat. Any defensive Pokemon that can recover has a reliable recovery move is going to cause a lot of problems. This makes it wise to carry some wallbreakers or set up Pokemon setup sweepers. Pokemon such as Gligar can switch into defensive Pokemon such as Hippopotas and set up. Misdreavus works as well, setting up Nasty Plot or Substitute. Generally, having a Ground-type immunity is going to be a huge help to Pawniard,since most of the Choice Scarf set counters to this set use commonly pack Earthquake.</p>

    <p>Additionally,
    Pawniard pairs well with Fighting-types that can abuse Ghost-types being removed from the match. Meditite is an excellent choice for a teammate, since it can wreak havoc with its powerful STAB Hi Jump Kick without fear of dealing major damage to itself.</p>

    [Team Options]

    <p>Pawniard definitely enjoys having Stealth Rock and Spikes on the field. Spikes in particular grant Pawniard a much easier time getting passed its counters since they are mostly Fighting-types or Ground-types. Dual Screens are also appreciated since they will generally grant an opportunity to grab a couple Swords Dances. Sandstorm is not necessarily recommended, but it definitely helps Pawniard more than hinders it, considering it knocks off a bit of the opponent's HP and doesn't harm Pawniard.</p>

    <p>In the defensive department, Pawniard requires some aid due to its weaknesses. Fighting- and Ground-type attacks plague Little Cup, making Pawniard quite difficult to have on a team if not prepared for these two attacks. Luckily, many Pokemon are immune or resistant to both attacks. Misdreavus and Gligar, for example, can handle both of those types. A Fire-type attack absorber couldn't hurt either.</p>

    <p>Offensively, Pawniard appreciates anything that can grant him a chance to set up and helps it bypass its counters. Wynaut is the most obvious choice. It not only deals with Choice Scarf Fighting-type attackers, but it also grants many set up opportunities with Encore. A friendly Fighting-type Pokemon would also work well, since Pawniard can rid the battle of Ghosts.</p>


    [Other Options]

    <p>Pawniard could run a Choice Band set, but being locked into Sucker Punch is a terrible thing, as it essentially gives your opponent free set up time free time to set up. Life Orb would always be better, even with a four attack set. Rock Polish would be decent, however priority destroys it, and Pawniard's best defense against that is to simply run the Swords Dance set Rock Polish could be used to boost Pawniard's Speed and pick apart weakened offensive teams, but Pawniard already has Swords Dance and Sucker Punch, and priority ruins it as well. Pawniard can also function as an effective lead, but sadly, Stealth Rock and Sucker Punch cannot be used together.</p>

    <p>A lead set would have lots of potential, but Sucker Punch and Stealth Rock cannot be used at the same time.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Bulky Fighting-types of all kinds are practically impossible for Pawniard to defeat without some help. Eviolite Timburr with an Eviolite is the best counter you're going to get. It has Drain Punch to keep it with high HP, and it has Mach Punch to easily dispatch of Pawniard so that Psycho Cut isn't a viable option It can destroy Pawniard with Drain Punch while also healing itself, and has access to Mach Punch to stop Pawniard in its tracks if it is carrying Psycho Cut. Bronzor is also quite effective, but if it's it has taken any damage, a Swords Dance-boosted Night Slash could do Bronzor in.</p>

    <p>Being Steel-type and grounded, Pawniard is vulnerable not only to Diglett, but also to Magnemite. With a Choice Scarf set, Magnemite can outpace and OHKO Pawniard. Diglett needs Substitute to get around Pawniard's Sucker Punch, but otherwise it's quite reliable.</p>


    Issues:

    • Team Options no longer exists. Apart from the paragraph on entry hazards, Pawniard's other teammates have already been discussed in the respective sets. Add the entry hazards part wherever you feel would be appropriate.
    • Always talk about a move slash on the set in Set Comments itself. Don't take it to AC.
    Good job otherwise.

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    GP 1 / 2
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    Wait, I know this is in GP, but no mention of Substitute?
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    done, one more
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    I hate to be the one to point this out as i'll likely receive some criticism, but according to PO, Pursuit and Psycho Cut are illegal together

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