Piloswine

[Kiyo]

QC: CanadianWifier / Punchshroom / Montsegur
GP: P Squared/ Tehy(P Squared)

blind pig

Overview
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Despite being in a low Speed tier and weak to common attacking types, Piloswine finds a niche as an incredibly bulky and reliable Stealth Rock user. Thanks to its excellent Ice / Ground typing, Piloswine is one of the few Stealth Rock users that can reliably beat common answers to entry hazards such as, Xatu, Sandslash, and Claydol. With its good offensive typing and high Base Power moves such as Earthquake and Icicle Crash, Piloswine is a potent attacker, hitting the majority of the tier for neutral damage with just its STAB moves. Thanks to Thick Fat, Piloswine can effectively deal with both Fire- and Ice-type Pokemon. Piloswine also makes great use of priority and multi-hit moves to deal with Focus Sash leads such as Archeops and Cacturne.

Tank
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name: Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Icicle Crash / Icicle Spear
move 4: Ice Shard
ability: Thick Fat
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Thanks to Piloswine's naturally high Attack stat, Earthquake hits many Pokemon that fail to OHKO Piloswine very hard. Stealth Rock makes Fire- and Flying-type Pokemon more manageable for both Piloswine and its teammates. Icicle Crash is consistently powerful, while Icicle spear is weaker and more accurate; both pair well with Earthquake and allow Piloswine to hit bulky Ground- and Flying-type Pokemon super effectively. Ice Shard gives Piloswine the ability to pick off weakened foes, especially those that utilize Focus Sash.

Set Details
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Maximum HP and Attack investment paired with Eviolite allows Piloswine to tank several powerful attacks, set up Stealth Rock reliably, and deal solid damage to opposing Pokemon. Thick Fat allows Piloswine to survive powerful Fire-type attacks such as Magmortar's Fire Blast and eases Piloswine's matchup versus Ice-type Pokemon such as Jynx and Cryogonal. An EV spread utilizing maximum HP and Defense EVs with an Impish nature can be used on more defensive teams, but in general Piloswine's moveset and stat distribution favor a tankier build.

Usage Tips
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Set up Stealth Rock as early as possible, but beware of common leads such as Archeops, which prevent Piloswine from doing so with Taunt. It should be noted that while Archeops can prevent Stealth Rock with Taunt, it will always go down to either the combination of Icicle Crash and Ice Shard or Icicle Spear. Earthquake is useful for hitting common Stealth Rock users such as Rhydon and Probopass super effectively. Switch Piloswine into Electric- and Ice-type attackers such as Rotom, Electivire, and Cryogonal, as they typically fail to deal large amounts of damage to Piloswine and do not appreciate taking its STAB moves. Ice Shard can be useful late-game to clean up weakened offensive Pokemon such as Swellow, Archeops, and Lilligant. Note that, Piloswine does not have access to recovery; as such, allowing it to take repeated hits is not wise.

Team Options
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Wish and Healing Wish users such as Audino, Mesprit, and Lilligant can offer Piloswine recovery throughout the game. Grass-type Pokemon such as Vileplume and Gourgeist can switch into Water- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Piloswine, and they also appreciate Piloswine's ability to switch into Ice-type moves. Psychic-type Pokemon such as Mesprit, Musharna, and Uxie can take Fighting-type attacks aimed at Piloswine; however, they need to be wary of Knock Off. Fairy-type Pokemon such as Granbull can switch into both Fighting-type attacks and Knock Off.

Other Options
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Piloswine can make use of Oblivious if it finds itself struggling against Taunt users. Roar and Toxic can find their way onto more defensive sets to phaze setup sweepers and wear down defensive Pokemon, respectively. Piloswine has the ability to run a Curse set, but due to Piloswine's lack of reliable recovery this set is often ineffective. Freeze-Dry is a STAB move that hits Water-type Pokemon super effectively, but it is far too weak without investment.

Checks & Counters
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**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Physically defensive Pokemon such as Uxie, Mega Audino, Musharna, and Weezing all take very little damage from Piloswine's attacks and can proceed to boost their stats, set entry hazards, or hit Piloswine for super effective damage.

**Offensive Water-types**: Offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Samurott and Simipour can threaten Piloswine with their super effective STAB moves. Samurott in particular commonly carries Knock Off, which can rid Piloswine of its Eviolite. It should be noted that these Pokemon do not appreciate taking an Earthquake from Piloswine.

**Fighting-types**: Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk, Hariyama, and Primeape can threaten Piloswine with Close Combat and can threaten Piloswine's teammates looking to switch in with coverage moves such as Knock Off. However, they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake on the switch in.

**Offensive Grass-types**: Offensive Grass-type Pokemon such as Lilligant and Ludicolo can threaten Piloswine with Giga Drain, although Lilligant needs to be wary of Piloswine's Ice-type STAB moves.

 

[Kiyo]

qc ready, skeleton is short and sweet but the bulk of info will come in write up if theres anything i missed lmk

i feel like c&c could have more things like offensive grasses so i can deff add those in

 

[CanadianWifier]

• stealth rock cuz stealth rock

hi i feel like this should be expanded upon a bit thanks.

 

[CanadianWifier]

overview: ice+ground is really good offensive coverage

Moves:
use the word reliable when talking about eq. most reliable stab move it has
talk about how its an effective SR lead
spear is used for focus sash users in general, but you can mention leadcheops specifically if you want after
weak =/= weakened :)))

details:
please make an ice pun when talking about how its an nice a nice an ice resist. :)
adamant to prevent it from being a sitting duck. also hits surprisingly hard with base 100 atk. (helping u expand bby)

usage:
>damper on your plans hello nice lingo wtf is this 1940?
explain how vs lead archeops you can generally icicile spear on the taunt then Ice shard next turn eq next turn predicting switch
uhm, use the Gen 5 mamoswine rule here "bring it in on something weak to ice and click EQ"
i know theres not much to say for this thing, but try to expand a bit when writing pls.
also, maybe if you put more effort into skeletons then writing wouldn't be such a pain for you :^]
protip: remove heliolisk mentions predicting an 80% super majority ban

team:
give examples for each pls
give examples for each pls
give examples of one pls
do they even exist?

OO:
remove dual screens are you srs lol. cool concept, bad in practice.
cant think of much else tbh, expand when write blah blah..

C&C:
why mention primeape before other more relevant fighting-types such as Pancham or Scraggy?
pls explain how each one of these Pocket Monsters beat Piloswine, dont just list em.


Once you do all that, consider it 1/3 :]

 

[Kiyo]

overview: ice+ground is really good offensive coverage

Moves:
use the word reliable when talking about eq. most reliable stab move it has
talk about how its an effective SR lead
spear is used for focus sash users in general, but you can mention leadcheops specifically if you want after
weak =/= weakened :)))

details:
please make an ice pun when talking about how its an nice a nice an ice resist. :)
adamant to prevent it from being a sitting duck. also hits surprisingly hard with base 100 atk. (helping u expand bby)

usage:
>damper on your plans hello nice lingo wtf is this 1940?
explain how vs lead archeops you can generally icicile spear on the taunt then Ice shard next turn eq next turn predicting switch
uhm, use the Gen 5 mamoswine rule here "bring it in on something weak to ice and click EQ"
i know theres not much to say for this thing, but try to expand a bit when writing pls.
also, maybe if you put more effort into skeletons then writing wouldn't be such a pain for you :^]
protip: remove heliolisk mentions predicting an 80% super majority ban

team:
give examples for each pls
give examples for each pls
give examples of one pls
do they even exist?

OO:
remove dual screens are you srs lol. cool concept, bad in practice.
cant think of much else tbh, expand when write blah blah..

C&C:
why mention primeape before other more relevant fighting-types such as Pancham or Scraggy?
pls explain how each one of these Pocket Monsters beat Piloswine, dont just list em.


Once you do all that, consider it 1/3 :]

implemented everything but the bring in on ice weak mons and click eq thing. thats kinda sketch and I don't really think its works as well in nu and is may have in bw ou lol

 

[Cherub Agent]

Keep in mind that icicle spear breaking subs isnt particularly crucial, as the 1 hp mon can just be picked off with ice shard.

Lum berry could also go in oo, its generally inferior, but nice to break through sleeper leads like vivillon, and burn conpletely cuts its offensive presence

 

[scorpdestroyer]

Can you list some of the things that Pilo checks in the overview? Right now you're mostly listing its traits and doesn't really give me a good reason to choose Piloswine

 

[Bowtie Addo]

As an answer to scorpdestroyer's request you could also add that it beats all the spinners in the tier, in Cryo, Claydol, and Sandslash.
The fact that Icicle Crash + Ice Shard KOs fully defensively invested Xatu (has a small chance to survive if fully invested + Leftovers though) is also worthy to mention in my opinion, as it cannot Roost stall or pivot on Piloswine.

 

[Kiyo]

k, updated.

 

[Kiyo]

CanadianWifier Montsegur Punchshroom I know you guys posted in the old writer's analysis, I'd appreciate you taking a look if you have the time. Thanks

 

[Punchshroom]

I'm not too sure if Pilo dislikes losing its Eviolite more than most Knock Off users dislike taking a hit from Piloswine in general. Mons like Liepard and Sneasel would end up sacrificing themselves just to remove Eviolite, which seems more like a win on Pilo's part than a loss. The context should be applied more to Fighting-type switch-ins that can also take Knock Off for Piloswine; examples include Musharna, Gourgeist, Vileplume, and Pelipper, all of which can take Fighting-type mons as well as shrugging off their Knock Offs with their reliable recovery.

Would you really use Lum Berry on Pilo? It's still not beating any bulky status users (Scald or Wisp mons), and it can work its way around the likes of sleep leads like Vivillon and Jynx with its priority regardless.

Freeze-Dry in OO; can deter bulky Water switch-ins, but not strong enough to be the main Ice attack of choice.

QC 2/3

 

[Kiyo]

Wrote this and removed mentions of banned Pokemon and tier changes. Ready for check 3

 

[Kiyo]

Montsegur Dat Blast Raseri hollywood can one of you look over this and give it the final check please?

 

[Ares]

No




Expand on the overview a bit, say its typing is also good offensively outside of beating xatu and other hazard setters meaning it can come in and threaten most teams with ground / ice typing. Also mention how good Thick Fat is, lets it take less from Fire-types and takes next to nothing from Ice-types.

Mention in TO that Pilo also compliments Grass-types because it can take on any Ice-types trying to beat them.

QC 3/3
:^)

 

[Kiyo]

No



Expand on the overview a bit, say its typing is also good offensively outside of beating xatu and other hazard setters meaning it can come in and threaten most teams with ground / ice typing. Also mention how good Thick Fat is, lets it take less from Fire-types and takes next to nothing from Ice-types.

Mention in TO that Pilo also compliments Grass-types because it can take on any Ice-types trying to beat them.

QC 3/3
:^)

nice white text (BAN ME PLEASE)

edit: updated overview with info on attacking presence thanks to typing, updated overview with thick fat, added mention in team options about grass type liking pilo defensively. gonna submit this for GP.

 

[Misaka Mikoto]

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Overview
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Despite being in a low Speed tier and weak to common attacking types, Piloswine finds a niche as an incredibly bulky and reliable Stealth Rock user. Thanks to its excellent Ground / Ice typing, (AC) Piloswine is one of the few Stealth Rock users that can reliably beat common answers to entry hazards, such as Xatu, Sandslash, and Claydol. With high Base Power moves such as Earthquake and Icicle Crash, Piloswine's typing also allows it to be a potent attacker, hitting the majority of the tier for neutral damage. Thanks to Thick Fat, Piloswine can effectively deal with both Fire- and Ice-type Pokemon. Piloswine also makes great use of priority and multi-hit moves to deal with Focus Sash leads such as Archeops and Cacturne.

Tank
########
name: Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Icicle Crash / Icicle Spear
move 4: Ice Shard
ability: Thick Fat
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Thanks to Pilowsine's naturally high Attack stat, Earthquake hits many Pokemon that fail to OHKO it very hard. Stealth Rock makes Fire- and Flying-type Pokemon more manageable for both Piloswine and its teammates. Icicle Crash pairs well with Earthquake and allows Piloswine to hit bulky Ground- and Flying-type Pokemon super effectively. Icicle Spear trades the consistent power of Icicle Crash for a more accurate accuracy, albeit weaker Ice-type move. Ice Shard gives Piloswine the ability to pick off weakened foes, especially those who utilize Focus Sash.

Set Details
========

Maximum HP and Attack investment paired with Eviolite, (AC) allows Piloswine to tank several powerful attacks, set up Stealth Rock reliably, and deal solid damage to opposing Pokemon. Thick Fat allows Piloswine to survive powerful Fire-type attacks such as Choice Specs Typhlosion's Eruption, it also eases Piloswine's matchup versus Ice-type Pokemon such as Jynx and Cryogonal. An alternative EV spread utilizing maximum HP and Defense with an Impish nature can be used on more defensive teams, but in general Piloswine's moveset and stat distribution favor a tankier build.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Stealth Rock as early as possible, (AC) but beware of common leads such as Seismitoad and Archeops that prevent Piloswine from doing so with strong super effective STAB moves and Taunt respectively. It should be noted that while Archeops can prevent Stealth Rock with Taunt, (AC) it will always go down to either the combination of Icicle Crash and Ice Shard or Icicle Spear. Earthquake is useful for hitting common Stealth Rock users such as Rhydon, Mega Camerupt, and Probopass super effectively. Switch Piloswine into Electric- and Ice-type attackers such as Rotom, Electivire, and Cryogonal, as they typically fail to deal large amounts of damage to Piloswine and do not appreciate taking Earthquake and Icicle Crash respectively. Ice Shard can be useful late-game to clean up weakened offensive Pokemon such as Swellow, Archeops, and Lilligant. Unfortunately, Piloswine does not have access to recovery moves, as such allowing it to take repeated hits is not wise.

Team Options
========

Wish and Healing Wish users such as Audino, Mesprit, and Lilligant can offer Piloswine recovery options throughout the game. Grass-type Pokemon such as Vileplume and Gourgeist can switch into Water- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Piloswine, they also appreciate Piloswine's ability to switch into Ice-type moves. Psychic-type Pokemon such as Mesprit, Musharna, and Uxie can take Fighting-type attacks aimed at Piloswine, however they need to be wary of Knock Off. Fairy-type Pokemon such as Granbull can switch into both Fighting-type attacks and Knock Off.

Other Options
########

Piloswine can make use of Oblivious if you it find yourself itself struggling with against Taunt users. Roar and Toxic can find their way onto more defensive sets to phaze out set-up sweepers and wear down defensive Pokemon respectively. Piloswine has the ability to run a Curse set, but due to its lack of reliable recovery this is often innefective ineffective. Freeze-Dry is an alternative STAB move that hits Water-type Pokemon super effectively, but it is often far too weak without investment.

Checks & Counters
########

**Physically defensive Pokemon**: Physically defensive Pokemon such as Seismitoad, Uxie, Mega Audino, Musharna, and Weezing all take very little damage form from Piloswine's attacks and can proceed to boost their stats, set entry hazards, or hit Piloswine for super effective damage.

**Offensive Water-types**: Offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Feraligatr, Samurott, Simipour, and Seismitoad can all threaten Piloswine with their super effective STAB moves. Seismitoad and Samurott also commonly carry Knock Off, (AC) which can rid Piloswine of its Eviolite. It should be noted that these Pokemon often require a free switch in, as they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake from Piloswine.

**Fighting-types**: Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk, Hariyama, and Primeape can threaten Piloswine with Close Combat and can threaten Piloswine's teammates looking to switch-in with coverage moves such as Knock Off. Similar to Water-type Pokemon, Fighting-types require a free switch in, as they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake.

**Offensive Grass-types**: Offensive Grass-type Pokemon such as Lilligant and Ludicolo can threaten Piloswine with Giga Drain, however although Lilligant needs to be wary of Piloswine's Icicle Crash and Ice Shard.

Tagging P Squared for a check. q.q

Bracing myself~

 

[P Squared]

i'm on it

edit: GP 1/2 :)
my stuff is add / remove / (comments)
most of the comments are for Lucina09 but it doesn't hurt to read them. also there was one note in the Usage Tips section that was more directed towards Kiyo

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Overview
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Despite being in a low Speed tier and weak to common attacking types, Piloswine finds a niche as an incredibly bulky and reliable Stealth Rock user. Thanks to its excellent Ground / Ice (it's actually Ice / Ground) typing, (AC) Piloswine is one of the few Stealth Rock users that can reliably beat common answers to entry hazards, such as Xatu, Sandslash, and Claydol. With its good offensive typing and high Base Power moves such as Earthquake and Icicle Crash, Piloswine's typing also allows it to be a is potent attacker, hitting the majority of the tier for neutral damage with just its STAB moves. (it's not Piloswine's typing that has the high Base Power moves, it's Piloswine. hence this needed some rewording, but it is still important to emphasize that Piloswine's typing helps it do this, so that's why I tacked on the last part) Thanks to Thick Fat, Piloswine can effectively deal with both Fire- and Ice-type Pokemon. Piloswine also makes great use of priority and multi-hit moves to deal with Focus Sash leads such as Archeops and Cacturne.

Tank
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name: Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Icicle Crash / Icicle Spear
move 4: Ice Shard
ability: Thick Fat
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Thanks to Piloswine's naturally high Attack stat, Earthquake hits many Pokemon that fail to OHKO it Piloswine (clarity; I thought that "it" was referring to EQ at first >__> ) very hard. Stealth Rock makes Fire- and Flying-type Pokemon more manageable for both Piloswine and its teammates. Icicle Crash pairs well with Earthquake and allows Piloswine to hit bulky Ground- and Flying-type Pokemon super effectively. Icicle Spear trades the consistent power of Icicle Crash for a more accurate accuracy, (nope, accurate was correct. I see what you were going for - "it has more accuracy" - but he's using accurate as an adjective. you can tell because there is an "a" before "more". you don't say "a more accuracy". aka, he meant something like "Icicle Crash is more accurate, although it is weaker") albeit weaker Ice-type move. Ice Shard gives Piloswine the ability to pick off weakened foes, especially those who that (don't use "who" when referring to Pokemon. sometimes "whose" is unavoidable, so that's okay, but always go for "that" or "which" if possible) utilize Focus Sash.

Set Details
========

Maximum HP and Attack investment paired with Eviolite, (AC) (no) allows Piloswine to tank several powerful attacks, set up Stealth Rock reliably, and deal solid damage to opposing Pokemon. Thick Fat allows Piloswine to survive powerful Fire-type attacks such as Choice Specs Typhlosion's Eruption,; (needs to be a semicolon. or you could do "Eruption, and it". you can think of semicolons as replacements for the pattern "[comma] [and/for/so/etc]", although that's a really simplified explanation) it also eases Piloswine's matchup versus Ice-type Pokemon such as Jynx and Cryogonal. An alternative EV spread utilizing maximum HP and Defense with an Impish nature can be used on more defensive teams, but in general Piloswine's moveset and stat distribution favor a tankier build.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Stealth Rock as early as possible, (AC) but beware of common leads such as Seismitoad and Archeops, which that (the following part of the sentence make it clear that we are talking specifically about Seismitoad and Archeops, so it should be ", which" instead of "that") prevent Piloswine from doing so with strong super effective STAB moves and Taunt, (as a general rule, we put a comma before "respectively") respectively. It should be noted that while Archeops can prevent Stealth Rock with Taunt, (AC) it will always go down to either the combination of Icicle Crash and Ice Shard or Icicle Spear. Earthquake is useful for hitting common Stealth Rock users such as Rhydon, Mega Camerupt, and Probopass super effectively. Switch Piloswine into Electric- and Ice-type attackers such as Rotom, Electivire, and Cryogonal, as they typically fail to deal large amounts of damage to Piloswine and do not appreciate taking Earthquake and Icicle Crash, (yep, comma. although, Rotom isn't hit by Earthquake, so idk if that's the best example to give) respectively. Ice Shard can be useful late-game to clean up weakened offensive Pokemon such as Swellow, Archeops, and Lilligant. Unfortunately, Piloswine does not have access to recovery moves,; (semicolon) as such, (comma. "as such" is one of those phrases that is similar to "however" in that it usually needs to be surrounded by a semicolon and a comma. that's just something you have to know) allowing it to take repeated hits is not wise.

Team Options
========

Wish and Healing Wish users such as Audino, Mesprit, and Lilligant can offer Piloswine recovery options throughout the game. Grass-type Pokemon such as Vileplume and Gourgeist can switch into Water- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Piloswine, and (remember, you can substitute "[comma] [and]" with a semicolon. therefore "Piloswine; they also" would have been an acceptable change too) they also appreciate Piloswine's ability to switch into Ice-type moves. Psychic-type Pokemon such as Mesprit, Musharna, and Uxie can take Fighting-type attacks aimed at Piloswine,; (semicolon goes before "however"...) however, (...and comma goes after "however") they need to be wary of Knock Off. Fairy-type Pokemon such as Granbull can switch into both Fighting-type attacks and Knock Off.

Other Options
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Piloswine can make use of Oblivious if you it find finds yourself itself struggling with against Taunt users. (these changes are alright, but because you changed "you" to "it", you also have to change "find" to "finds". "you find", "it finds", right?) Roar and Toxic can find their way onto more defensive sets to phaze out (it's just a rule that you don't use "out" after "phaze". probably because it's redundant/implied. you can't really phaze in stuff) set-up setup (read the Spelling and Grammar Standards) sweepers and wear down defensive Pokemon, (yeah this again) respectively. Piloswine has the ability to run a Curse set, but due to its lack of reliable recovery this is often innefective ineffective. Freeze-Dry is an alternative STAB move that hits Water-type Pokemon super effectively, but it is often far too weak without investment.

Checks & Counters
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**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: (we capitalize the headings in Checks & Counters) Physically defensive Pokemon such as Seismitoad, Uxie, Mega Audino, Musharna, and Weezing all take very little damage form from Piloswine's attacks and can proceed to boost their stats, set entry hazards, or hit Piloswine for super effective damage.

**Offensive Water-types**: Offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Feraligatr, Samurott, Simipour, and Seismitoad can all threaten Piloswine with their super effective STAB moves. Seismitoad and Samurott also commonly carry Knock Off, (AC) which can rid Piloswine of its Eviolite. It should be noted that these Pokemon often require a free switch in, as they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake from Piloswine.

**Fighting-types**: Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk, Hariyama, and Primeape can threaten Piloswine with Close Combat and can threaten Piloswine's teammates looking to switch-in switch in (read Spelling and Grammar Standards. "switch-in" is a noun that refers to the Pokemon that switches in. here OP is using it as a verb, so we don't use a dash) with coverage moves such as Knock Off. Similarly to Water-type Pokemon, Fighting-types require a free switch in, as they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake.

**Offensive Grass-types**: Offensive Grass-type Pokemon such as Lilligant and Ludicolo can threaten Piloswine with Giga Drain, however although (yep, this change works. remember, if you want to keep "however", you have to surround it with a semicolon and a comma!) Lilligant needs to be wary of Piloswine's Icicle Crash and Ice Shard.

 

[Misaka Mikoto]

Thank you for the feedback P Squared I really appreciated it. n_n

 

[Kiyo]

Thanks, boys. I just followed P Squared's comments. There were a few changes that P Squared commented (no) to, so I left those. If I did that in error, let me know.

excellent Ground / Ice (it's actually Ice / Ground)

so our dex is wrong, lol

idk why ours is different than bulbapedia and others though

edit: just read that everything is alphabetized cuz we're elitists who don't give a fuck, nb.

 

[tehy]

Get chekt Kiyo

Delete in RED
Add in BLUE

you list Cryogonal as not liking Piloswine's STABs but IIRC it kind of walls them, what'd I miss?

read comments!

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Comments:

Removed comma in overview; i get the feeling you mean those more specifically rather than just blanket 'common answer to entry hazards' but if there are more you didn't mention you should keep the comma, i guess.

Rejiggered the Icicle Spear / Crash sentence, I really felt you could save a lot of words by comparing them at the start, and (unless i'm off here) Icicle Spear similarly pairs well with Earthquake.

Usage tips; think the way I wrote the combination makes more sense, right ?

Unfortunately->note that, in usage tips. I felt like the unfortunately made that sentence kind of a counterpoint to the first one; if it was meant to be unfortunately should say.

Checks and Counters:
K, so you can just Waters dislike taking an EQ; that kinda implies they want a free switch-in, if anything you could note that they switch in freely on Icicle (Spear / Crash).
Fighters: good for yama and its thick fat ice resistance, but other fighting-types (And guts yama) also hate taking Icicle (Crash / Spear).
fairly certain Lilligant also has to watch out for Icicle Spear. Might as well just say Ice-type STABs, yeah?

Any chance of Stone Edge or something in OO? It helps for Cryogonal, and for Articuno + Rotom-F, all of which is cool

amcheck

Overview
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Despite being in a low Speed tier and weak to common attacking types, Piloswine finds a niche as an incredibly bulky and reliable Stealth Rock user. Thanks to its excellent Ice / Ground typing, Piloswine is one of the few Stealth Rock users that can reliably beat common answers to entry hazards,(rc) such as Xatu, Sandslash, and Claydol. With its good offensive typing and high Base Power moves such as Earthquake and Icicle Crash, Piloswine is a potent attacker, hitting the majority of the tier for neutral damage with just its STAB moves. Thanks to Thick Fat, Piloswine can effectively deal with both Fire- and Ice-type Pokemon. Piloswine also makes great use of priority and multi-hit moves to deal with Focus Sash leads such as Archeops and Cacturne.

Tank
########
name: Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Icicle Crash / Icicle Spear
move 4: Ice Shard
ability: Thick Fat
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Thanks to Piloswine's naturally high Attack stat, Earthquake hits many Pokemon that fail to OHKO Piloswine very hard. Stealth Rock makes Fire- and Flying-type Pokemon more manageable for both Piloswine and its teammates. Icicle Crash is consistently powerful,(ac) while Icicle Spear is weaker and more accurate; both pair well pairs well with Earthquake and allows Piloswine to hit bulky Ground- and Flying-type Pokemon super effectively. Icicle Spear trades the consistent power of Icicle Crash for a more accurate,(rc) albeit weaker Ice-type move.Ice Shard gives Piloswine the ability to pick off weakened foes, especially those that utilize Focus Sash.

Set Details
========

Maximum HP and Attack investment paired with Eviolite allows Piloswine to tank several powerful attacks, set up Stealth Rock reliably, and deal solid damage to opposing Pokemon. Thick Fat allows Piloswine to survive powerful Fire-type attacks such as Choice Specs Typhlosion's Eruption; it also and eases Piloswine's matchup versus Ice-type Pokemon such as Jynx and Cryogonal. An alternative EV spread utilizing maximum HP and Defense EVs with an Impish nature can be used on more defensive teams, but in general Piloswine's moveset and stat distribution favor a tankier build.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Stealth Rock as early as possible, but beware of common leads such as Seismitoad and Archeops, which prevent Piloswine from doing so with strong super effective STAB moves and Taunt, respectively. It should be noted that while Archeops can prevent Stealth Rock with Taunt, it will always go down to either the combination of Icicle Crash and Ice Shard or Icicle Spear or Icicle Spear and Ice Shard. Earthquake is useful for hitting common Stealth Rock users such as Rhydon, Mega Camerupt, and Probopass super effectively. Switch Piloswine into Electric- and Ice-type attackers such as Rotom, Electivire, and Cryogonal, as they typically fail to deal large amounts of damage to Piloswine and do not appreciate taking Earthquake and Icicle Crash,(rc) respectively its STABs. Ice Shard can be useful late-game to clean up weakened offensive Pokemon such as Swellow, Archeops, and Lilligant. Unfortunately,(rc) Note that Piloswine does not have access to recovery moves; as such, allowing it to take repeated hits is not wise.

Team Options
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Wish and Healing Wish users such as Audino, Mesprit, and Lilligant can offer Piloswine recovery options throughout the game. Grass-type Pokemon such as Vileplume and Gourgeist can switch into Water- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Piloswine, and they also appreciate Piloswine's ability to switch into Ice-type moves. Psychic-type Pokemon such as Mesprit, Musharna, and Uxie can take Fighting-type attacks aimed at Piloswine; however, they need to be wary of Knock Off. Fairy-type Pokemon such as Granbull can switch into both Fighting-type attacks and Knock Off.

Other Options
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Piloswine can make use of Oblivious if it finds itself struggling against Taunt users. Roar and Toxic can find their way onto more defensive sets to phaze setup sweepers and wear down defensive Pokemon, respectively. Piloswine has the ability to run a Curse set, but due to Piloswine's its lack of reliable recovery this set is often ineffective. Freeze-Dry is a an alternative STAB move that hits Water-type Pokemon super effectively, but it is often far too weak without investment.

Checks & Counters
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**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Physically defensive Pokemon such as Seismitoad, Uxie, Mega Audino, Musharna, and Weezing all take very little damage from Piloswine's attacks and can proceed to boost their stats, set entry hazards, or hit Piloswine for super effective damage.

**Offensive Water-types**: Offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Feraligatr,(rc) Samurott, Simipour, and Seismitoad can all threaten Piloswine with their super effective STAB moves. Seismitoad and Samurott in particular also commonly carry Knock Off, which can rid Piloswine of its Eviolite. It should be noted that these Pokemon often require a free switch in,(rc) as they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake from Piloswine.

**Fighting-types**: Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk, Hariyama, and Primeape can threaten Piloswine with Close Combat and can threaten Piloswine's teammates looking to switch in with coverage moves such as Knock Off. Similarly to Water-type Pokemon, Fighting-types require a free switch in, as However,(ac) they do not appreciate taking an Earthquake on the switch-in.

**Offensive Grass-types**: Offensive Grass-type Pokemon such as Lilligant and Ludicolo can threaten Piloswine with Giga Drain, although Lilligant needs to be wary of Piloswine's Icicle Crash and Ice Shard Ice-type STABs.

 

[boltsandbombers]

tehy
252+ Atk Piloswine Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cryogonal: 154-182 (54.8 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Icicle Plate Cryogonal Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine: 72-85 (17.8 - 21%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock

I think piloswine wins here lol
e: fair enough nbd

 

[tehy]

Yea, i guess offensive is much more popular than defensive these days

I sorta figured offensive would also be carrying HP fight, but TBH my cryogonal knowledge is mostly from BW RU so w/e

 

[SM979]

Stamping tehy's am check for GP 2/2, also remove mentions of banned Pokemon

 

[Misaka Mikoto]

Before this is uploaded, tehy remember that when you put "STAB" in the analyses it should say "STAB moves" or "STAB attacks" because it's talking about the attacks and not the boost itself!

For example, the offensive grass types part and the usage tips.

 

[P Squared]

sorry SM979 but there are a couple other things the amcheck gets wrong >__<

overview

without the comma, it sounds like "Xatu, Sandslash, and Claydol" is a list of entry hazards rather than a list of common answers to entry hazards. it doesn't really need the comma, sure, but having one is better, and considering that there was already a comma there, taking the comma out isn't an improvement...

set details

I'm not 100% certain on this but I do believe that "x paired with y" is singular. "peanut butter paired with jelly forms a good combination", not "peanut butter paired with jelly form a good combination", right? we're talking about peanut butter, and the fact that it is paired with something is kind of a side note; the subject is still peanut butter... at least that's the way I think of it. so I would think allows > allow
I can see the argument that you say maximum HP and Attack, so it's plural right? but you're not really saying that, you're saying maximum HP and Attack investment, and investment is singular.

usage tips

I'm pretty sure the "either Icicle Crash" edit changes the OP's meaning. the easiest way to tell is that with the edit, it says "either the combination of x or y and z".

basically, the two things that "either" is referring to are separated by "or", right? "either x or y" --> the two things are x and y. with tehy's change, the placement of the "or" means that the two things are (1) combination of Icicle Crash and (2) Icicle Spear + Ice Shard. well, (1) doesn't make sense now. the combination of Icicle Crash? if it's just Icicle Crash then it's not really a combination.

I guess another way to say this is that because the correct patterns are "combination of x and y" and "either x or y", tehy's change doesn't work. I'm like... kind of sure?

also what Lucina said about STABs.

other options

in the Freeze-Dry sentence, don't remove "it". well, you can, but if you do that then you have to remove the comma before "but". again this one is apparently not a strict rule, but because it was fine before, this change did not improve the sentence :/

checks and counters

the end of the Fighting-types section: that's not the correct usage of switch-in. switch-in refers to a Pokemon that switches into another Pokemon." ex: Rhyperior is a good switch-in to Swellow (idk if that's true I just picked two Pokemon)
switch-in does not refer to the act of switching in. remove the dash.

Grass-types section: same thing with the STABs

I know I could have just re-edited this with the SCMS later but isn't it better to make clear the standards so everyone can improve than to let people continue to make incorrect changes for others to fix later? Obviously I don't think I'm some grammar genius; I make mistakes, and quite a lot of them, as I can see when I read the 2/2s on analyses that I've given 1/2 to. but personally I really want people to let me know immediately when I'm not doing something right so that I can start doing it correctly. (aka please feel free to be as mean to me as you want as long as you explain what I'm doing wrong. you can even try this out right now if I screwed something up in this very post.)

I realize I sound like a jerk and I'm sorry :(