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Platinum/HG/SS Battle Frontier and DP Battle Tower Records

Discussion in 'Smogon's Greatest Hits' started by Peterko, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. darkseeker4

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    I finally got jump's 3L team together.

    Loppuny @ choice scarf
    Ivs:31/X/31/X/31/31
    EVs: 252HP / 172Def / 84Spd
    Nature: jolly
    ~ Switcheroo
    ~ Thunder Wave
    ~ Charm
    ~ Sweet Kiss

    Thanks to expert evan for this baby.

    Latios @ Leftovers
    Ivs:29/X/29/29/31/31
    EVs: 4HP / 252SpA / 252Spd
    Nature: Timid
    ~ Dragon Pulse
    ~ Calm Mind
    ~ Substitute
    ~ Rest

    negator's latios.Don't get any better then this.

    lucario @ salac berry
    Ivs :30/X/28/31/31/31
    EVs: 6HP/ 252SpA / 252Spd
    Nature: Modest
    ~ Aura Sphere
    ~ Dark Pulse
    ~ Calm Mind
    ~ Substitute

    thanks to expert evan yet AGAIN.

    So this is the team i finally put together.

    First run sadly i lost at 75 cause of a gay missclick.Wanted to charm salamence but sadly clicked switchroo instead.Then got owned by stab outrage.long battle but in the end,it ended up w/ my latios against his mence.
    im at 100% while he's at like 2 %,survived ,he survived +1 dark pulse+2 confusion hits.anyways after coming back and outrageing twice,he outspeeds lati(Expected)then crits w/ outrage.Could i have survived that?probably not.

    i think i have learn't how to play w/ this team well enough.After all,on like battle 54 or something.I owned gay metagross.para-hax FTW.

    Thanks to jump for letting me use his team and im on my second run.currently on 21.used chomp instead of lop till now but ill use lop from now.pokemon are weak but practice makes perfect.
  2. Jumpman16

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    hi yeah you may want to actually look at my EVs for lucario, otherwise the QC metagross is going to shit on you, though i guess there's only one instead of two
  3. Diana

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    rofl I am the luckiest person on earth right now. Check this out and see how the AI failed to put me away: 50-73295-15293

    Anyway, I'm on a good Battle Tower run.. I won't post the streak until it finishes to keep things simple, but at least instead of getting haxed at 69, I haxed to win there this time.
  4. darkseeker4

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    ahh,shit.just assumed the eves were 252/252/4
    well ill change eves and then proceed from 21.Il update once I hit 105 that isif i hit 105 :p
  5. Aiklap

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    lol Diana - 5hp is cutting it close. But it had to be Argron next. I was thinking why didn't you sub/roost again with Dragonite before outraging?
    And good luck with the rest of your streak.
  6. PazzaK

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    Me and my friend got an 82 win streak on the link battle battle tower on Diamond/pearl
    Mike's comments are in Brown, While mine are in Green.

    [​IMG]
    Starstreak
    Starmie@ Choice specs.
    Timid 252 spe 252 spA
    ~Water pulse
    ~Psychic
    ~T-bolt
    ~Ice beam
    Very standard, nothing special to say about it.
    Gets Bolt/Beam coverage, stab to kill neutral stuff
    and just generally worked well. Named after
    Starstreak of the Powerpack, this guy got us
    out of lots of tight spots and got hit by ALOT
    of Gallades Leaf Blades. The other lead was...

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    FatClawsv2
    Weavile@ Focus sash
    Jolly 252 Spe 252 Atk
    ~Fake out
    ~Counter
    ~Night Slash
    ~Ice Punch
    I named it this because I had remade it
    from my old weavile, and the free turns
    Fake out allowed were vital to us getting
    this far. Countering the Gyro Ball's of nearly
    every steel type (and weezing :S) made it
    work as well, although there were some
    metagross' packing flash cannon that screwed
    us over sometimes. We discovered the Weavile
    /Starmie combination in earlier winstreaks
    (hitting 50 twice) with other pokemon for the
    other two and then picked the other two pokemon
    for their synergy and strong stats. They were...

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    Apocalypse
    Garchomp@ Yache Berry
    Jolly 252 Spe 252 Atk
    ~Dragon Claw
    ~Earthquake
    ~Swords Dance
    ~Stone Edge
    This guy played extrmely well, boosted
    EQ's hitting everything on the map apart
    from my partner, who i will get on to in a
    second. All Of my pokemon are name after
    marvel characters, and i aptly named him
    "Apocalypse" because he usually spells
    the end for the enemy. Finally....

    [​IMG]
    Fat Blue
    Azelf@ Life Orb
    Calm nature (yeah I knows its bad) 252SpA, 252Spe, 4Hp
    ~Psychic
    ~Flamethrower
    ~Grass Knot
    ~Nasty Plot
    This was the other set-up pokemon
    on the team and I used it to deal with
    anything that needed sweeping up.
    Paired well with Toby's Garchomp
    because it dodged the earthquakes and
    hit anything that dodged them with
    boosted stab psychics. Overall, an awesome
    combination. Named because all of my team
    are named "Fat... something" :P


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    Sorry about the photo, it decided it wouldn't accept us resizing it

    We just lost to a sheer colding articuno
    and a sheer colding lapras lead with infinite
    luck, 2 hits in a row -_-, which cained
    garchomp and starmie, Fake Out only worked
    on one of the 2 and I chose Lapras, believing
    Starmie could 0hko Articuno but it had a Wacan
    Berry, and then it was weavile being teamed
    upon by Raikou and lapras, managed to get
    Raikou low while Lapras rested and Weavile
    died, Azelf finished Raikou and Lapras sleep
    talked Sheer Cold and missed, then sleep
    talked rest as I nasty plotted then, as I knew
    the AI uses sleep talk on the turn it wakes up
    from rest (silly AI) from previous experience
    with resttalk lapras packing sheer cold, I was
    able to 2hko it without dying with Psychic.
    Froslass came out and outsped due to my nature
    and 0hkoed with Ominous Wind despite calm SpD
    boost :(. So basically, hax beat us.

    What he said :(

    Toby Jezard + Mikeyfalcon
  7. Diana

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    Well Dragonite's last time vs. Aggron gave me a KO... And I was south of town without my Pokemon list so I forgot Aggron had Fire Punch. But rofl, it Metal Clawed.

    Anyway, my streak ended at 90. Sticky Hold Muk, Focus Sash Electrode, and Ice Beam Articuno. Too bad that team laughs at mine so badly...

    Cresselia @ Choice Scarf
    Bold
    252 HP/4 Def/252 Speed

    Trick
    Flash
    Reflect
    Thunder Wave

    Do I need to say it's a jump special moveset? lol seriously, It can pretty much trick anything (other than Sticky Hold Pokemon, I had to face 5 leads with Sticky Hold on my streak which was annoying), then start to Thunder Wave. Reflect can help against Physical attackers, and special ones (and sometimes physical as well) gets Flashed. Once that's over I get to go to one of my other two Pokemon to set up.

    Dragonite @ Lum Berry
    Adamant
    4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed

    Dragon Dance
    Outrage
    Roost
    Substitute

    I tend to bring Dragonite on Fire, Water, Ground, Fighting, and special Electric moves, along with any status/stat-lowering Pokemon. From there, it's standard: Sub, roosting as needed, and Dragon Dance to +6 if possible. I've seen +6 outrage OHKO some really bulky Steels, so there's not much stopping it from there.

    Scizor @ Life Orb
    Brave
    252 HP/252 Attack/4 Defense

    Swords Dance
    Roost
    Bullet Punch
    Superpower

    I bring this in on any moves not taken by Dragonite and start Swords Dancing, obviously Roosting a bit as I go. +6 Bullet Punch is obviously the love of this set, OHKOing all kinds of things. I've seen it OHKO things like Moltres and most Raikou and Zapdos. Alongside that, Superpower is here, mostly for slow Steels and things like Skarmory, who aren't dealt with too well with Bullet Punch.

    lol I really doubt you guys needed that much text because people have seen Trick teams before, but you know, it's there for the people who haven't.

    Anyway, I tried Machamp in the Battle Hall. There's one major problem: It attracts hax. 1 Hypnosis, 1 Confuse Ray, and 1 Ice Punch freeze later, and I'm back to typical scarfkiss. Now if only Argenta didn't pull out Zapdos on me in battle 50 there...
  8. darkseeker4

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    ROFLMFAO

    brave nature.surely you need some speed to attack w/ superpower.
    that's why jump gave eves to spe,to outrun some crucial stuff.

    As for roost>sub
    that's pretty bad as jump has gone to great length's to explain sub and what a sexy move it is and how crits just rape evrything in the tower.

    #1 move used in tower=substitue.

    Nice variet on the team though.I like dragonite,Just found sala superior in that slot cause of intimidate and higher base spe.
    But i guess cause of the higher spD,dragonite wins.

    update : im on 35 w/ jump's team.hopefully this run will see 150+
  9. Diana

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    lol I just got annoyed with breeding and I'm not patient enough to pass up every stat but Special Attack above 25. Also, Roost has saved me so many times I'm not about to pass that up.. I'd rather put sub over superpower than Roost to be honest.
  10. darkseeker4

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    yeah and i just realized night' has jolly,since your DDing to+6,to ensure ko's on plus steel's go admant perhaps.
  11. Diana

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    Did I put Jolly, seriously? @_@ Okay, I'm just so used to putting jolly dragons down, the Dragonite I used really is Adamant, sorry.

    Anyway, I might rebreed that Scizor if I stop being so lazy...
  12. darkseeker4

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    I think this team can reach heights if scizor is changed to jump's.But idk,just my opinion
  13. Aiklap

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    No, i agree. Also, i would put those speed evs on dragonite somewhere else, considering you will face a paralyzed pokemon most of the time when setting up. Although this team is just getting more and more like Jumps if that happens lol.

    Breeding is annoying to put it lightly.
    I have finally got a decent ived Salamence (28/29/18/x/16/29) for the hall, at 120 now and have already faced dark and ice. Already having trouble from brightpowder and lax incense. Also Ryperhior can be a treat, i faced him at level 88 and with 403 attack and EQ, it is a 3 hit KO (just). I really don't want to face this at lv 100, and i see it has Quick claw. Oh well, at least the AI was dumb enough to use Rock weaker first.
  14. Aiklap

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    toldamin, no swagger on Latias.
    I can see the stratergy here, but honestly replace metagross - to have 2 steels is not a good idea. Use a stat-upper sweeper instead.
    Edit: sorry
  15. toldaillmin

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    Hey fellow BTers. what do you think of this Tower team...

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    Latias
    Levitate - Bold - Choice Scarf
    252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
    ~Trick
    ~Charm
    ~Swagger
    ~Flash

    Leads like Jump's Cresselia, with Charm and Swagger instead of TWave and Reflect. Idea is to Swagger the SpAttackers and Get Metagross in there for a Bullet Punch sweep after he uses Psych Up. If you smell a physical attacker charm them three times or flash immediately if you are unaware. Trick anything threatening to boost or if it's bulky.

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    Metagross
    Clear Body - Impish - Focus Sash
    252 HP/ 6 Def/ 252 SpD
    ~Reflect
    ~Psych Up
    ~Light Screen
    ~Bullet Punch

    After three Swaggers this tank can come in and Psych Up when Latias dies and proceed to Bullet Punch sweep the nation. Focus Sash is to make sure he gets one turn to set up defenses or power up. If things go wrong with Latias and Swagger wasn't used this bugger can set up defense for Scizor.

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    Scizor
    Technician - Adamant - Life Orb
    6 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Spe
    ~Swords Dance
    ~Substitute
    ~Bullet Punch
    ~Superpower

    Another Jumpman standard, comes in after things have been Tricked or Charmed and sets up three swords dances and a sub. Bullet Punch or Superpower the world until it's destroyed. This Scizor also complements Latias's weaknesses very nicely.

    I think this team is seriously viable (I've been testing a Trick Latias, SubDance Scizor and Blissey team and it works wonders, but the potential for a sashed metagross is nice). What do you all think?
  16. Aiklap

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    Oh, sorry thanks for adding comments.
    Nice to see somthing different, But i dont se the point of light screen on meta - how about another attack sience your only attacks are steel and fighting atm.
    Is this theory, or have you tried this team?
  17. toldaillmin

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    i've done this latias/scizor combo with a blissey (at 80 wins currently). i want to abuse psych up somehow and metagross seems like a perfect candidate.
    i could run a jolly metagross with speed and thunderpunch for gyarados/dragons/bulky waters.
  18. Diana

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    The only reason I'll keep the speed is for the things I can't outspeed if I can't paralyze them anyway, I had quite a few moments that I was really glad to have it.

    And I am rebreeding the Scizor, and since I've got the egg locked into adamant now, I can take a few tries at a time at my leisure, as long as I don't save after getting the egg I'm fine, I can even go do the facilities when I don't have the egg, especially since I'm focusing on the Hall and Factory at the moment.

    Also, I like the idea of abusing Psych Up, sounds like a fun way to go.
  19. feral_brute

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    Platinum Battle Factory, Single, Open Level (45)

    I traded quite a few times, but the three in my team when I lost were:

    Ursaring@toxic orb
    Adamant atk/hp
    -Protect
    -Superpower
    -Crunch
    -Facade

    Lapras@Leftovers
    Adamant atk/hp
    -Curse
    -Ice Shard
    -Aqua Tail
    -Avalanche

    Garchomp@Brightpowder
    Jolly atk/spd
    -Sandstorm
    -Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Double Team

    I ended up ultimately losing to ResTalk Sheer Cold/Fissure Walrein after protecting to activate Ursarings toxic orb and quick feet, and then superpowering the opposing Steelix only to fail to KO it and eat an Earthquake in the process. Garchomp came out and finished off Steelix with an Earthquake of its own, and was then faced with Walrein. Earthquake missed, which made me furious that a 100% accurate move could do that until I found out that particular one was holding lax incense... It then Sheer Colded my Garchomp and Lapras was unable to do any serious damage before being Fissured to death as well..
    I may try and get my Gold Print later, but reaching 45 only to be double OHKOed has put a slight damper on my Battle Factory quest..

    http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8362/photohin.jpg

    Sorry for the poor photo quality, I took it with my iPhone..
  20. Chinese Dood

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    Boo, I just lost in Double Battle Castle with 60 streak and 732 CP using this team:

    Lead #1:
    Weavile / Jolly / Pressure / @Focus Sash
    IVs: 21 / 31 / 22 / x / 24 / 31
    EVs: 4 HP 252 Attack 252 Speed
    Fake Out / Brick Break / Ice Punch / Night Slash

    Lead #2:
    Porygon-Z / Timid / Download / @Focus Sash
    IVs: ?? / x / 27 / 30 / 30 / 31
    EVs: 4 HP 252 SpA 252 Speed
    Tri-Attack / Shadow Ball / Thunderbolt / HP Ground 69

    Gyarados / Adamant / Intimidate / @Lum Berry
    IVs: 27 / 31 / 31 / x / 31 / 31
    EVs: 84 HP 252 Attack 172 Speed I think (whatever it was to outspeed +115s after 1 DD for lvl 50)

    Yeah, as I was going through my battles I knew it's not going to last too long, because I saw so many things that could have gone wrong, and finally one of them did and ended my streak. Basic strategy was just to kill off the opponent's leads quickly and then double target the last one, then get lots of CP. If PorygonZ can kill both opponents' leads but Weavile can't, then Weavile can Fake Out one while Porygon Z kills one, and then next turn kill the other. Something like that. I didn't have a Ditto that could easily breed for HP Fighting, so I figured Ground is just as good. Tri-Attack/ShadowBall/HP Ground misses the neutral coverage on Skarmory, so Thunderbolt does the job.

    I lost to a team of electrics. Luxray & Electivire leading. I decided that Electivire will be a bigger threat, and I'm not sure if PorygonZ will outspeed, so I decided that Weavile should fake out Electivire while P-Z HP Ground. Well, that didn't kill Electivire, while Luxray Signal Beamed Weavile to red. I decided that Luxray will signal beam Weavile again, and Electivire will probably use a fighting move on Weavile, so I decided it's now a good time to switch in Gyarados for Intimidate, since Weavile is still useful for faking out later on. Electivire was Jolly and therefore faster than P-Z, but it missed with Cross Chop. P-Z finished off Electivire, while Luxray did use signal beam on Gyarados. JOLTEON comes out, so things didn't look good, as that thing might even outspeed Weavile. Gyarados is still out, but there isn't much I can do, so I'll just hope Jolteon Twaves Gyarados instead of Tbolting. Gyarados picks EQ while P-Z picks HP Ground on Luxray. Jolteon used TBolt to kill Gyarados, while P-Z did >50% damage but didn't KO luxray. Luxray used T-Wave on P-Z. Now my low health Weavile comes back out.

    I had 2 choices here: 1) Fake Out Jolteon while P-Z hopefully doesn't get fully paralyzed and finish Luxray off, or 2)Hope that Jolteon isn't +speed so Weavile can hopefully kill off Luxray with Ice Punch while Jolteon kills off Weavile and P-Z attack jolteon with HP Ground. I decided on 1), because it's the safer option, since I was pretty sure that HP Ground wouldn't OHKO Jolteon with its base 95 sp Def anyway, so either way it'd be 2HKO, while option one guarantees Jolteon not attacking. So things went according to play. Jolteon lost 25-ish% and flinched (probably that will be low enough for the OHKO with HP Ground next turn). Luxray finished off Weavile, P-Z finished off Luxray with HP Ground. So, it was my full health focus sash Paralyzed P-Z vs a 75% health Jolteon. Since I say I lost, it's obvious what happened. Jolteon used Thunderbolt (>50% damage). P-Z is fully paralyzed. Jolteon used Thunderbolt again and ended my streak.

    There are so many things that could have gone wrong, so yah, it was fun while it lasted. I had a ton of CPs though... which I should have used instead of being greedy and saving up. In the first 21 streaks with this team, I did the +5 Level for every opponent's pokemon and got nearly 50 CP every battle.

    I keep saying I'll go back to Single but I never do, so maybe this time I'll actually go back to single for real. I don't even have goldprint for anything yet.
  21. Jumpman16

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    If you would have subbed in flareon's face before using outrage you wouldn't have lost, flareon's struggle will never break your sub even if you have a 0 Def IV

    also i strongly advise against life orb in the BT and have for years but what do i know =(

    you're going to have a rough time with heatran, one has focus sash

    "also i strongly advise against life orb in the BT and have for years but what do i know =("
  22. toldaillmin

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    is there anyway around that? what do you think of this team outside of sash'd heatran?

    and I agree with life orb, i'd go iron plate or possibly liechi berry/sitrus berry
  23. Diana

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    Moral of the story: I need to remember to not try to play when I don't have access to my list/a decent calculator. I'll redo that Scizor and put Leftovers on it, though I have to find where my leftovers is first.

    edit: lol no wonder I can't find it, I haven't gone to that out-of-the-way part of victory road yet in platinum. Oh well, adventure time.
  24. Jumpman16

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    bullet punch as heatran's only attack sucks especially against things like slowbro, metagross is never beating that and neither is scizor

    also two houndoom have focus sash and could be a little trouble if they dont come out first
  25. toldaillmin

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    ok here's my team that's at 103 wins right now, I think it can handle everything pretty well:

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    Latias
    Levitate - Timid - Choice Scarf
    252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 SpD
    ~Trick
    ~Charm
    ~Thunder Wave
    ~Flash

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    Blissey
    Bold - Natural Cure - Leftovers
    252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Spe
    ~Aromatherapy
    ~Seismic Toss
    ~Shock Wave
    ~Softboiled

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    Scizor
    Adamant - Technician - Sitrus Berry
    ~Swords Dance
    ~Substitute
    ~Superpower
    ~Bullet Punch

    Basically I set up trick and TWave a Special Attacker and flash the shit out of them. Charm for a physical attacker or a struggler. Blissey can absorb a bunch of special attacks until they start to struggle. Also aromatherapy if Latias is frozen or scizor is frozen/paralyzed/burned. Shock wave is for double teaming ghosts. Scizor is standard and complements Latias weaknesses too well. Great team up to 103 and I hope to continue.

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